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Driving Marketing ROI
Part 2 
Peter Gracey  
President and Co‐Founder  
AG Salesworks 
 
   
W W W . A G S A L E S W O R K S . C O M
This eBook is part two of a three part series that will share our experience and
knowledge running a sales and marketing services firm. It is targeted at helping B2B
companies achieve a better Marketing Return on Investment (ROI) for their current
quarterly demand generation campaigns. Before I ask you to read my advice I think I
should first give the courtesy of discussing our philosophy on building and managing any
demand generation campaign. AG Salesworks asks itself 3 very important questions
prior to launching any marketing campaign (for our clients or our own). They are as
follows:
1. Who are we going to target/call and why?
2. What are we going to say to them and what do we want them to say to us?
3. When our campaign succeeds in generating a qualified opportunity, how will sales
follow up on it?
It is our goal that by reading this, you either reinforce your existing process through the
understanding that others feel the same way, or you gain some valuable pointers to
enhanceimprove your own Q4 Demand Generation planning.
So, let’s address part 2… What are we going to say to them and what do you want them
to say to us?
Driving Marketing ROI in Q4, Part 2                                                                   Page 2 
Table of Contents 
Introduction ............................................................................................................................................ 4 
What do we want to say to them? ......................................................................................................... 6 
What do we want them to say to us? ................................................................................................... 10 
Conclusion ............................................................................................................................................. 14 
About the Author .................................................................................................................................. 15 
 
Driving Marketing ROI in Q4, Part 2                                                                   Page 3 
Introduction 
 
Driving Marketing ROI in Q4, Part 2                                                                   Page 4 
In Part 1 of our eBook series we focused on the foundation of our Quarterly Demand Generation 
Campaign.  Why would people buy from you?  Who are those people (title, company, etc)?  Do you 
have a list of contacts that match your profile to begin campaigning to?  To me, building the 
foundation of the campaign is always the hardest part.  It's the science of the campaign.  Now it's 
time to focus on the art, the art of communication to be more specific.   
 
You can execute part one with unmatched precision and 
effectiveness, but it will be ineffective unless you devote the same 
level of attention to step two in this process.  What good is a well 
defined and validated list if you don't take ample time to answer 
the following ‐ "what am I actually going to say to these people 
about my company, and what do I want them to say to me?"  In 
your company, you may refer to this as your qualification strategy.  
 
We mentioned previously that all B2B demand generation 
campaigns should have a teleprospecting component.  This is 
not a self serving opinion, but one based on having executed 
hundreds of campaigns that both included and excluded live 
calling.  The fact of the matter is, in order to truly gather the 
best nuggets of gold from your list and to better maximize your 
campaign investment...you MUST eventually call these folks to 
discuss things live.  It's a dirty job, but somebody's got to do it.   
 
Section 2 of our eBook will be devoted exclusively to educating you as to how we go about 
answering two main questions as part of our pre campaign planning.  What do we want to say to 
these folks, and, most importantly, what do we want them to say to us?   
 
Driving Marketing ROI in Q4, Part 2                                                                   Page 5 
Driving Marketing ROI in Q4, Part 2                                                                   Page 6 
What do we want to say to them? 
 
Indulge me for a moment and imagine that you are the proud parent of a dedicated Girl Scout (this 
hasn't happened to me yet).  Imagine that your little girl scout was so proud to sell cookies that year 
and talked nothing more of raising the most money in her troop.  Imagine then that during the week 
of the big sales push, your ambitious worker had gotten sick and missed out almost entirely on her 
opportunity to sell.  Imagine then that she cried endlessly about having missed so many days and 
asked you through tear filled eyes to help her sell the most cookies.  If you are as easily manipulated 
by your children as I am, you would immediately begin crafting a plan to help your daughter set sales 
records for her troop....hell, for her town!!  The planning process you would go through may not be 
much different than the demand generation campaign planning we are discussing on these pages.  
You could get out a pen and paper and crank through section 1.  Why would people buy from you?  
Most likely, guilt at your daughter's plight andor a sweet tooth would be the two main 
characteristics I would guess.  Who are these people?  Family and friends mostly.  Do you have a 
list?  Of course you do.  Unfortunately, given the emotion of the situation and your desire to impress 
your child, perhaps you just hit the phones to start taking orders.  You never stopped to think about 
what you were actually going to say to each one of these people.  
You were winging it in every sense of the word.  Yes, you closed a lot of business that day, but your 
daughter didn't sell the most cookies in her troop.  Now, because she is far more mature than you, 
she isn't sad, she is simply happy for the girl that did.  You, on the other hand, couldn't shake the 
thought that had you simply taken more time to determine what you were going to say before you 
called she may have been number one.  For example, if this had happened to me, my list of suspects 
would have had a category of "Family".  The "Family" category would be full of individuals that 
would experience both guilt at my daughters plight and sweet tooth issues.  They would be my ideal 
prospects.  If I wanted to maximize my performance I would need to take a minute and design a 
strategy for exactly what I wanted to say to these people based on their unique characteristics.  
Specifically, you would want to design a message for this 
category that covered three main areas.
The three things you must say when you catch
someone live:
1. Who you are?
2. Why you are calling?
Driving Marketing ROI in Q4, Part 2                                                                   Page 7 
3. Why they should talk to you?
For the family category this could be an effective example of an opening message that would put 
you in the best position to qualify and then close on some cookies.   
 
"Hi Dad, it's Pete" 
"I'm good how are you"? 
"Good.  Listen,  don't take offense if I'm brief, but I'm trying to help (daughter's Name) out 
with her cookie sales for girl scouts.  Not sure if Mom told you, but (daughter's name) was 
sick all last week so missed her chance to sell any cookies.  I'm hoping I can drum up some 
business for her today by calling friends and family so that she can sell as many as possible.  I 
know she'd be psyched if you bought some cookies, and I think they have some new kind of 
thin mint this year, I remember you eating those a box at a time when we were younger." 
Driving Marketing ROI in Q4, Part 2                                                                   Page 8 
 
 
Please don't be offended by the simplicity of my example as I've often found that the simpler you 
make this stuff the easier it is to internalize.  So let's take a look at my proposed intro to my dad and 
see if I hit our three "What do you want to say to them" criteria. 
Who you are?: "Hi Dad, it's Pete"
Why you are calling?: "I'm trying to help (daughter's Name) out with her cookie
sales for girl scouts. Not sure if Mom told you, but (daughter's name) was sick all
last week so missed her chance to sell any cookies. I'm hoping I can drum up
some business for her today by calling friends and family so that she can sell as
many as possible.
Why they should talk to you?: "I know she'd be psyched if you bought some
cookies, and I think they have some new kind of thin mint this year, I remember
you eating those a box at a time when we were younger"
Driving Marketing ROI in Q4, Part 2                                                                   Page 9 
My Dad would know exactly who I was, why I was calling, and the fact that he could buy
some cookies that he loves to eat and make his beloved granddaughter happy at the
same time if he just tolerated a couple more minutes on the phone with me (my father
isn't a phone guy). After that intro I have positioned myself very well to ask him the
questions I need answered with very little push back at this point.
This segues nicely into section #2 of this chapter.
What do we want them to say to us? 
Once you've figured out what you are going to say to live prospects, the next logical step
is to figure out what you want to learn about them as it pertains to your hopes of closing
business.
I did a good job of getting my dad in position to
answer some questions. He knows who I am, why
I'm calling, and how what I have to say can benefit
him. He is ready to answer some questions because
my opening made him feel comfortable that his
conversation with me was going to add value to his
life. He is therefore, an active participant in my
qualification process. In order to prepare yourself
andor your teleprospecting reps for this stage in
the conversation (the qualification stage) you must
fully understand the outline of what a fully qualified
sales leads is.
Driving Marketing ROI in Q4, Part 2                                                                   Page 10 
At AG Salesworks we define a fully qualified sales lead as follows: 
1. Business Profile:  This is the scope of the opportunity.  The overall picture of the 
personorganization your sales people are going to be selling to.  More specifically, the pains 
and needs of said personorganization as it pertains to your service or technology.  
2. Timeframe:  How soon does your contactorganization want those pains alleviated and 
needs met?
3. Budget:  If they know how soon they want pain alleviated and needs met, have they 
assigned a dollar amount in order to make that happen?  If not, could they reallocate from 
somewhere else to pay for our productsservices?
4. Decision Maker:  If they have approved budget, or can re‐allocate, how does the decision 
making process work?  Who introduces concepts and who is the final decision maker?  Who 
actually signs the check?  
5. Net Step:  Where do we go from here?  Let's book a formal next step in the sales process 
(ideally a con‐call where your sales rep can begin his/her deeper qualification).
Driving Marketing ROI in Q4, Part 2                                                                   Page 11 
Once you've adopted this (or something similar) as your template for a qualified lead, you can then 
generate questions in each category designed to gather as much pertinent information as possible, 
in that specific area.   
Here is the list of questions, by category, that we use at AG Salesworks to fully qualify a sales 
opportunity for our sales reps. 
Business Profile Questions for Marketing Services 
For Marketing Contacts: 
How are you currently generating MQLs? 
What campaigns are you running? 
How many MQLs are these campaigns yielding?  
Is this resulting in enough SQLs? 
How are you determining the effectiveness of your campaigns? 
Are you happy with the quality of leads your programs are generating? 
What does your sales team view as the biggest impediment to their success? 
Do you have someone helping you with the execution of your demand gen campaigns? 
  
For Sales Contacts: 
What are your quarterly/annual sales objectives? 
Are you getting enough leads from marketing that then result in fully qualified sales leads? 
Are you happy with the quality of leads coming from marketing? 
What do you view as your sales team’s biggest impediment to their success? 
  
For C‐Level Contacts: 
Does your marketing team have a cohesive lead generation strategy delivering quality leads to your sales team? 
Is your marketing team in reactive mode, or are they proactively planning innovative lower cost programs to deliver 
leads to your sales team? 
Are all the leads generated by Marketing being followed up on by Sales? 
Driving Marketing ROI in Q4, Part 2                                                                   Page 12 
Are all outward facing people in your organization delivering a consistent message about your solutions? 
 Business Profile Questions for Sales Opportunity Development 
What is the size & structure of your Sales Team? (inside, field, channel, direct, 3rd party) 
If they have an inside team: 
What are the responsibilities of those reps? 
What % of time is spent cold calling vs. following up on marketing qualified leads 
 What is your company’s sales model? (direct, channel, distribution, telesales, combination) 
Have you used outsourced vendors in the past?    
Would you be open to it again – why/why not? 
What verticals are you selling into?  What titles? 
 What is the average selling price of your solution?   
What is your average sales cycle? 
 Timeframe: 
When would you like to see a project with AG Salesworks begin? 
Is this an active initiative? 
What does it mean to your organization if you don’t do anything to address this problem? 
 Budget:  
What type of investment are you looking to make in lead generation & prospecting? 
Have you set aside budget for this?   
When would you foresee this budget being available? 
Does that budget come from sales or marketing? 
  
Decision Maker: 
Who would be involved in deciding on an outsourced vendor? 
In order to make the best use of everyone’s time, would it make sense to involve this individual(s) in the next call? 
  
Driving Marketing ROI in Q4, Part 2                                                                   Page 13 
Conclusion 
At this point, we have established two extremely important determinations.   
• We have painstakingly determined who we are going to prospect and why.   
• We have also determined exactly how we are going to talk about ourselves and what we are 
going to ask them about.   
Both steps have put us in the position of generating a very 
well qualified sales opportunity.  Now it's time to focus on 
our sales team.  Specifically, how exactly are they planning 
on following up on all the incredibly qualified sales 
opportunities that our demand generation campaign has 
created?   
Driving Marketing ROI in Q4, Part 2                                                                   Page 14 
Having founded AG Salesworks in 2002, Peter strives to constantly 
improve on both the Client and employee experience. Peter 
employs the newest technologies, best practices and strategic 
leadership to drive measurably, superior results. 
Peter Gracey is the co‐founder and President of AG Salesworks 
and is responsible for daily operations and Client management. 
Driving Marketing ROI in Q4, Part 2                                                                   Page 15 
About the Author 
Prior to AG Salesworks, Peter worked in senior management in 
the services and software industries. 

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