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LAW OFFICES
GIVNER & KAYE
A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION
SUITE 445
12100 WILSHIRE BOULEVARD
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA 90025
www.GivnerKaye.com
www.MajorTaxProblems.com
BRUCE GIVNER
(bruce@GivnerKaye.com)
OWEN D. KAYE
(owen@GivnerKaye.com)
KATHLEEN GIVNER
(kathy@GivnerKaye.com)
NEDA BARKHORDAR
(neda@GivnerKaye.com)
PHONE (310) 207-8008
(818) 785-7579
FAX (310) 207-8708
(818) 785-3027
October 4, 2013
Summary Of Alternate Ways To Protect A House
Do
Nothing
Give To
Kids (or
kids’
trust)
Sell to
Kids (or
kids’
trust)
Contribute
to FLP
QPRT1
(House
GRIT)
GRAT2
PRT3
Foreign
deposit
of excess
mortgage
Set Up &
Annual
n/a Prepare
deed,
PCOR,4
Prop.
58,5
7096
& trust
for kids
Prepare
deed,
PCOR,
Prop. 58,
note, TD
and trust;
escrow,
lease
Prepare
FLP7
,
corporate
GP, heirs’
trust, deed,
PCOR,
annual
10658
,
1120S9
&
state fees
QPRT, calcs,
deed, PCOR,
Prop. 58,
kids’ trust;
appraisal
IRS Form
709
GRAT,
calcs,
deed,
PCOR
Prop. 58,
kids’ trust;
appraisal;
IRS Form
709
PR Plan
and Trust
calcs,
minutes,
trust deed,
DOL10
letter
LLC &
trust; .
Pay Gift
Tax?
No If equity
exceeds
gift
exclusion
Not if
sale is for
fair
market
value
Small,
depends on
kids’ trust’s
LP %
No, unless
remainder
exceeds gift
exclusion
No, unless
remainder
exceeds
gift
exclusion
No No
Save
Estate
Tax?
No On
increase
over gift
value
On
increase
over
price
Yes due to
discounts
Yes if you
survive
QPRT term
Yes if you
survive
GRAT term
No No
Home-
stead?11
Yes Combine
(part gift,
part
home-
stead)
Combine
(part
sale,12
part
home-
stead)
No Yes Yes Yes Yes
1
Qualified personal residence trust.
2
Grantor Retained Annuity Trust Advantages over Qualified Personal Residence Trust: smaller gift, so quicker
allocation of generation skipping transfer tax exclusion; buy home back so step up in basis since it is included in
estate; parents happier since they keep title to house.
3
Private Retirement Trust. California Code of Civil Procedure §704.115.
4
Preliminary Change of Ownership Report. Form BOE-502-A.
5
Claim For Reassessment Exclusion For Transfer Between Parent and Child. Form BOE-58-AH.
6
Federal Gift Tax Return.
7
Family limited partnership.
8
Federal partnership income tax return.
9
Federal income tax return for an “S” corporation.
10
United States Department of Labor.
11
Compare California’s exemption with the much larger ones in Florida and Texas (using other states’ requires
1,215 days of residency).
12
A sale of a part interest to a children’s trust means the parent retains a tenancy in common interest, which is much
less attractive to a creditor.
LAW OFFICES
GIVNER & KAYE
A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION
Summary of Alternate Ways To Protect A House
Page 2 of 2
October 4, 2013
Do
Nothing
Give To
Kids (or
kids’
trust)
Sell to
Kids (or
kids’
trust)
Contribute
to FLP
QPRT13
(House
GRIT)
GRAT14
PRT15
Foreign
deposit
of excess
mortgage
Can
Creditor
Get
House?
Yes No No, but
can seize
the note
No, but can
get charging
order on your
LP units
BK Code
§548(e)(1)
(A): 10 years
to challenge
BK Code
§548(e)(1)
(A): 10
years to
challenge
BK Code
§548(e)(1)(
A): 10
years to
challenge
Discourag
es those
who do
asset
search
You
Rent?
No not while
kids are
minors
Yes Yes Not until
term ends
Yes No No
You
Deduct
Debt?
Yes Yes if
grantor
trust16
Yes if
grantor
trust
Your % flows
thru
Yes Yes Yes Yes
You Use
Equity?
Yes No No Indirectly,
through FLP
No, unless it
is sold
Yes Yes Yes
13
Qualified personal residence trust.
14
Grantor Retained Annuity Trust Advantages over Qualified Personal Residence Trust: smaller gift, so quicker
allocation of generation skipping transfer tax exclusion; buy home back so step up in basis since it is included in
estate; parents happier since they keep title to house.
15
Private Retirement Trust. California Code of Civil Procedure §704.115.
16
A “grantor trust” is an irrevocable trust which is disregarded for income tax purposes. In other words, the parents
– as grantors – are taxed on all of the trust’s income. However, the trust is still not included in the parents’ taxable
estates. So it is recognized for estate and gift taxes as a separate legal person but disregarded for income tax
purposes.

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  • 1. LAW OFFICES GIVNER & KAYE A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION SUITE 445 12100 WILSHIRE BOULEVARD LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA 90025 www.GivnerKaye.com www.MajorTaxProblems.com BRUCE GIVNER (bruce@GivnerKaye.com) OWEN D. KAYE (owen@GivnerKaye.com) KATHLEEN GIVNER (kathy@GivnerKaye.com) NEDA BARKHORDAR (neda@GivnerKaye.com) PHONE (310) 207-8008 (818) 785-7579 FAX (310) 207-8708 (818) 785-3027 October 4, 2013 Summary Of Alternate Ways To Protect A House Do Nothing Give To Kids (or kids’ trust) Sell to Kids (or kids’ trust) Contribute to FLP QPRT1 (House GRIT) GRAT2 PRT3 Foreign deposit of excess mortgage Set Up & Annual n/a Prepare deed, PCOR,4 Prop. 58,5 7096 & trust for kids Prepare deed, PCOR, Prop. 58, note, TD and trust; escrow, lease Prepare FLP7 , corporate GP, heirs’ trust, deed, PCOR, annual 10658 , 1120S9 & state fees QPRT, calcs, deed, PCOR, Prop. 58, kids’ trust; appraisal IRS Form 709 GRAT, calcs, deed, PCOR Prop. 58, kids’ trust; appraisal; IRS Form 709 PR Plan and Trust calcs, minutes, trust deed, DOL10 letter LLC & trust; . Pay Gift Tax? No If equity exceeds gift exclusion Not if sale is for fair market value Small, depends on kids’ trust’s LP % No, unless remainder exceeds gift exclusion No, unless remainder exceeds gift exclusion No No Save Estate Tax? No On increase over gift value On increase over price Yes due to discounts Yes if you survive QPRT term Yes if you survive GRAT term No No Home- stead?11 Yes Combine (part gift, part home- stead) Combine (part sale,12 part home- stead) No Yes Yes Yes Yes 1 Qualified personal residence trust. 2 Grantor Retained Annuity Trust Advantages over Qualified Personal Residence Trust: smaller gift, so quicker allocation of generation skipping transfer tax exclusion; buy home back so step up in basis since it is included in estate; parents happier since they keep title to house. 3 Private Retirement Trust. California Code of Civil Procedure §704.115. 4 Preliminary Change of Ownership Report. Form BOE-502-A. 5 Claim For Reassessment Exclusion For Transfer Between Parent and Child. Form BOE-58-AH. 6 Federal Gift Tax Return. 7 Family limited partnership. 8 Federal partnership income tax return. 9 Federal income tax return for an “S” corporation. 10 United States Department of Labor. 11 Compare California’s exemption with the much larger ones in Florida and Texas (using other states’ requires 1,215 days of residency). 12 A sale of a part interest to a children’s trust means the parent retains a tenancy in common interest, which is much less attractive to a creditor.
  • 2. LAW OFFICES GIVNER & KAYE A PROFESSIONAL CORPORATION Summary of Alternate Ways To Protect A House Page 2 of 2 October 4, 2013 Do Nothing Give To Kids (or kids’ trust) Sell to Kids (or kids’ trust) Contribute to FLP QPRT13 (House GRIT) GRAT14 PRT15 Foreign deposit of excess mortgage Can Creditor Get House? Yes No No, but can seize the note No, but can get charging order on your LP units BK Code §548(e)(1) (A): 10 years to challenge BK Code §548(e)(1) (A): 10 years to challenge BK Code §548(e)(1)( A): 10 years to challenge Discourag es those who do asset search You Rent? No not while kids are minors Yes Yes Not until term ends Yes No No You Deduct Debt? Yes Yes if grantor trust16 Yes if grantor trust Your % flows thru Yes Yes Yes Yes You Use Equity? Yes No No Indirectly, through FLP No, unless it is sold Yes Yes Yes 13 Qualified personal residence trust. 14 Grantor Retained Annuity Trust Advantages over Qualified Personal Residence Trust: smaller gift, so quicker allocation of generation skipping transfer tax exclusion; buy home back so step up in basis since it is included in estate; parents happier since they keep title to house. 15 Private Retirement Trust. California Code of Civil Procedure §704.115. 16 A “grantor trust” is an irrevocable trust which is disregarded for income tax purposes. In other words, the parents – as grantors – are taxed on all of the trust’s income. However, the trust is still not included in the parents’ taxable estates. So it is recognized for estate and gift taxes as a separate legal person but disregarded for income tax purposes.