SlideShare una empresa de Scribd logo
1 de 15
The Case for  Believers Baptism Only
The great commission  Matt 28:19-20:  ,[object Object],We are to baptize disciples that we (not the Lord) have made.
In the original KJV its not so clear:  Go ye therefore, and  teach  all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: ….(KJV) The ‘baptizing them’ now refers to ‘all nations’, and not the sub set that have chosen to be disciples. Others say that ‘all nations’ means literally everyone. So without need for people to accept teaching first, this command is interpreted to  require  babies to be baptized.
‘make disciples’ or ‘teach’? The Greek word translated ‘make disciples’ / ‘teach’ occurs 4 times in NT: Mat 13:52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe [which is]  instructed  unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man [that is] an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure [things] new and old. Mat 27:57 When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus'  disciple : Act 14:21 And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had  taught  many, they returned again to Lystra, and [to] Iconium, and Antioch, Note all the other instances of this word require participation by the subject. Root: a learner, pupil, disciple – from  to learn, to understand. (Strongs 3100 root 3101 root 3129) I would suggest ‘teach’ is a translation error that has been corrected to ‘make disciples’ in the later translation.
‘ all nations’ – literally everyone?   Examining usage of ‘nations’ in Matthew Nations would include babies in following verses Mat 25:32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides [his] sheep from the goats.  Mat 21:43 "Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it.  (Theoretically yes, but practically No.)
‘ all nations’ – literally everyone?   Nations would Not include babies in remaining usage: Mat 24:9 "Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake.  Mat 24:7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.  Mat 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,  Need to consider the context to decide if reference to individuals is relevant  On balance reasonable to conclude babies not included.
Street preachers Speak in the hope that they are heard.  This is not teaching, but a call that the spirit can use to open the hearers ears or harden their hearts. We can do the teaching independently, but to be effective requires pupil to be engaged, and the Lord to supply the Faith to accept the teaching.
Street baptizers  If we went round flicking water over passers by and pronouncing them baptized would they be baptized?  Or would we be sinning by doing something without authority that is causing offense?
Peter’s View of Baptism 1Pe 3:21 There is also an antitype which now saves us-- baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God) , through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
Babies are pure Mat 19:14   But Jesus said, "Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them;  for of such is the kingdom of heaven ."  Implies babies are part of Kingdome without being baptized.  Mat 18:10   "Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones,  for I say to you that in heaven their angels always see the face of My Father who is in heaven .  Implies there will come a time that that person’s angel(s) will not all ways see the Father. Why is that?  Because they will grow into sinners? as Jesus says: Mat 9:13 ……For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance."
What about Tradition? Reference to household baptisms in NT, assumed these included the babies. But references in the OT to all the household going to battle, would exclude babies. Long tradition of baptizing babies at birth, due high levels of infant mortality. We no longer believe that un-baptized babies are in danger of Hell fire as have better understanding of Gods grace. We are not slaves to tradition.  We can chose to apply our understanding to develop  tradition.
Full Immersion or Sprinkling?  If we fully immerse a baby is this going too far?
What about Christenings? Unfortunately no clear definition of what a Christening is: to baptize in the name of Christ. or to give a name to.
Why does it matter that we baptize babies? Christenings are a time to thank God and celebrate the birth. Opportunity for the church to be introduced to new member But what of the pain that is suffered when an adult baptism is subsequently denied?  The consequence of doing something without the authority. Mat 18:7 Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes!
Conclusion The Great commission Matt 28:19-20 gives authority to baptize disciples only.

Más contenido relacionado

La actualidad más candente

Predestined for Glory
Predestined for GloryPredestined for Glory
Predestined for GloryRory Hall
 
Lesson #4: Dynamic Christian Living
Lesson #4: Dynamic Christian LivingLesson #4: Dynamic Christian Living
Lesson #4: Dynamic Christian LivingK. Mark Wilson
 
Sept 20.2015- Sunday Message- YOU WERE FORMED FOR GOD'S FAMILY
Sept 20.2015- Sunday Message- YOU WERE FORMED FOR GOD'S FAMILYSept 20.2015- Sunday Message- YOU WERE FORMED FOR GOD'S FAMILY
Sept 20.2015- Sunday Message- YOU WERE FORMED FOR GOD'S FAMILYCatherine Lirio
 
Rick Warren, Purpose Driven life: Section 15
Rick Warren, Purpose Driven life: Section 15Rick Warren, Purpose Driven life: Section 15
Rick Warren, Purpose Driven life: Section 15Richard Chamberlain
 
Getting Into God's Playbook
Getting Into God's PlaybookGetting Into God's Playbook
Getting Into God's Playbookklbirks
 
10th November 2016 - Why is God Abba father?
10th November 2016  - Why is God Abba father?10th November 2016  - Why is God Abba father?
10th November 2016 - Why is God Abba father?Thorn Group Pvt Ltd
 
10-06-19, Ephesians 3;14-21, Residence, The Love of Christ in Us
10-06-19, Ephesians 3;14-21, Residence, The Love of Christ in Us10-06-19, Ephesians 3;14-21, Residence, The Love of Christ in Us
10-06-19, Ephesians 3;14-21, Residence, The Love of Christ in UsFirst Baptist Church Jackson
 
Union With Christ Part 1 Slides
Union With Christ Part 1 SlidesUnion With Christ Part 1 Slides
Union With Christ Part 1 SlidesBodie Quirk
 
Christianity Is About Christ
Christianity Is About ChristChristianity Is About Christ
Christianity Is About ChristGo4God
 
Galatians 4, Allegory, allegorical; literal Hermeneutics; allegorically or he...
Galatians 4, Allegory, allegorical; literal Hermeneutics; allegorically or he...Galatians 4, Allegory, allegorical; literal Hermeneutics; allegorically or he...
Galatians 4, Allegory, allegorical; literal Hermeneutics; allegorically or he...Valley Bible Fellowship
 
Gospel order 7-20 - every man and his appointed work
Gospel order 7-20 - every man and his appointed workGospel order 7-20 - every man and his appointed work
Gospel order 7-20 - every man and his appointed workSami Wilberforce
 

La actualidad más candente (20)

When The Heart Is Renewed
When The Heart Is RenewedWhen The Heart Is Renewed
When The Heart Is Renewed
 
Predestined for Glory
Predestined for GloryPredestined for Glory
Predestined for Glory
 
Until it is Finally Finished
Until it is Finally FinishedUntil it is Finally Finished
Until it is Finally Finished
 
Lesson #4: Dynamic Christian Living
Lesson #4: Dynamic Christian LivingLesson #4: Dynamic Christian Living
Lesson #4: Dynamic Christian Living
 
Your Royal Identity
Your Royal IdentityYour Royal Identity
Your Royal Identity
 
Sept 20.2015- Sunday Message- YOU WERE FORMED FOR GOD'S FAMILY
Sept 20.2015- Sunday Message- YOU WERE FORMED FOR GOD'S FAMILYSept 20.2015- Sunday Message- YOU WERE FORMED FOR GOD'S FAMILY
Sept 20.2015- Sunday Message- YOU WERE FORMED FOR GOD'S FAMILY
 
Formed For God S Family
Formed For  God S  FamilyFormed For  God S  Family
Formed For God S Family
 
Rick Warren, Purpose Driven life: Section 15
Rick Warren, Purpose Driven life: Section 15Rick Warren, Purpose Driven life: Section 15
Rick Warren, Purpose Driven life: Section 15
 
The Work of Redemption - Part 3
The Work of Redemption - Part 3The Work of Redemption - Part 3
The Work of Redemption - Part 3
 
Getting Into God's Playbook
Getting Into God's PlaybookGetting Into God's Playbook
Getting Into God's Playbook
 
10th November 2016 - Why is God Abba father?
10th November 2016  - Why is God Abba father?10th November 2016  - Why is God Abba father?
10th November 2016 - Why is God Abba father?
 
Godhead 4 - Godhead Truth
Godhead 4 - Godhead TruthGodhead 4 - Godhead Truth
Godhead 4 - Godhead Truth
 
10-06-19, Ephesians 3;14-21, Residence, The Love of Christ in Us
10-06-19, Ephesians 3;14-21, Residence, The Love of Christ in Us10-06-19, Ephesians 3;14-21, Residence, The Love of Christ in Us
10-06-19, Ephesians 3;14-21, Residence, The Love of Christ in Us
 
Union With Christ Part 1 Slides
Union With Christ Part 1 SlidesUnion With Christ Part 1 Slides
Union With Christ Part 1 Slides
 
The everlasting gospel
The everlasting gospelThe everlasting gospel
The everlasting gospel
 
Galaitians
GalaitiansGalaitians
Galaitians
 
Christianity Is About Christ
Christianity Is About ChristChristianity Is About Christ
Christianity Is About Christ
 
Galatians 4, Allegory, allegorical; literal Hermeneutics; allegorically or he...
Galatians 4, Allegory, allegorical; literal Hermeneutics; allegorically or he...Galatians 4, Allegory, allegorical; literal Hermeneutics; allegorically or he...
Galatians 4, Allegory, allegorical; literal Hermeneutics; allegorically or he...
 
Our Godly inheritance
Our Godly inheritanceOur Godly inheritance
Our Godly inheritance
 
Gospel order 7-20 - every man and his appointed work
Gospel order 7-20 - every man and his appointed workGospel order 7-20 - every man and his appointed work
Gospel order 7-20 - every man and his appointed work
 

Destacado

Being community john 15-1-17 - no notes
Being community   john 15-1-17 - no notesBeing community   john 15-1-17 - no notes
Being community john 15-1-17 - no notesMax Cross
 
Deeper 7 - Deeper Homicidal - Robert Russell
Deeper 7 - Deeper Homicidal - Robert RussellDeeper 7 - Deeper Homicidal - Robert Russell
Deeper 7 - Deeper Homicidal - Robert RussellMax Cross
 
Deeper 6 - Kalam Cosmological Argument
Deeper 6 - Kalam Cosmological ArgumentDeeper 6 - Kalam Cosmological Argument
Deeper 6 - Kalam Cosmological ArgumentMax Cross
 
Isaiah 62:1 5
Isaiah 62:1 5Isaiah 62:1 5
Isaiah 62:1 5Max Cross
 
Walking In Darkness Until The Light Comes
Walking In Darkness Until The Light ComesWalking In Darkness Until The Light Comes
Walking In Darkness Until The Light ComesMax Cross
 

Destacado (6)

Deeper 3
Deeper 3Deeper 3
Deeper 3
 
Being community john 15-1-17 - no notes
Being community   john 15-1-17 - no notesBeing community   john 15-1-17 - no notes
Being community john 15-1-17 - no notes
 
Deeper 7 - Deeper Homicidal - Robert Russell
Deeper 7 - Deeper Homicidal - Robert RussellDeeper 7 - Deeper Homicidal - Robert Russell
Deeper 7 - Deeper Homicidal - Robert Russell
 
Deeper 6 - Kalam Cosmological Argument
Deeper 6 - Kalam Cosmological ArgumentDeeper 6 - Kalam Cosmological Argument
Deeper 6 - Kalam Cosmological Argument
 
Isaiah 62:1 5
Isaiah 62:1 5Isaiah 62:1 5
Isaiah 62:1 5
 
Walking In Darkness Until The Light Comes
Walking In Darkness Until The Light ComesWalking In Darkness Until The Light Comes
Walking In Darkness Until The Light Comes
 

Similar a Deeper 2 Arni Bisset - adult baptism

Paul Torah Bestiality new testament
Paul Torah Bestiality new testamentPaul Torah Bestiality new testament
Paul Torah Bestiality new testamentAllThingsFulfilled
 
Basic Hermeneutics Orientation
Basic Hermeneutics OrientationBasic Hermeneutics Orientation
Basic Hermeneutics OrientationJerry Smith
 
21 R C I A Sacrament Of Baptism
21    R C I A  Sacrament Of  Baptism21    R C I A  Sacrament Of  Baptism
21 R C I A Sacrament Of Baptismfsweng
 
Baptism Seminar: Provided by Pastor Bob Krueger of Immanuel Lutheran Church o...
Baptism Seminar: Provided by Pastor Bob Krueger of Immanuel Lutheran Church o...Baptism Seminar: Provided by Pastor Bob Krueger of Immanuel Lutheran Church o...
Baptism Seminar: Provided by Pastor Bob Krueger of Immanuel Lutheran Church o...ImmanuelFindlay
 
Doctrine of baptism - Part 2
Doctrine of baptism - Part 2Doctrine of baptism - Part 2
Doctrine of baptism - Part 2porter238
 
Theology of the child and young person.pptx
Theology of the child and young person.pptxTheology of the child and young person.pptx
Theology of the child and young person.pptxMike North
 
Top ten-questions-catholics-are-asked-
Top ten-questions-catholics-are-asked-Top ten-questions-catholics-are-asked-
Top ten-questions-catholics-are-asked-Tim Kusner
 
Lesson 2: Understanding The Bible
Lesson 2: Understanding The BibleLesson 2: Understanding The Bible
Lesson 2: Understanding The BibleK. Mark Wilson
 
Basic Hermeneutics Lesson 1
Basic Hermeneutics Lesson 1Basic Hermeneutics Lesson 1
Basic Hermeneutics Lesson 1Jerry Smith
 
Part 34. the mystery of godliness
Part 34. the mystery of godliness   Part 34. the mystery of godliness
Part 34. the mystery of godliness Ralph W Knowles
 
2013 Book of Mormon: Chapter 13 (Institute Lesson by hgellor)
2013 Book of Mormon: Chapter 13 (Institute Lesson by hgellor)2013 Book of Mormon: Chapter 13 (Institute Lesson by hgellor)
2013 Book of Mormon: Chapter 13 (Institute Lesson by hgellor)Leah Gellor
 
Top Ten Questions Catholics Are Asked
Top  Ten  Questions  Catholics Are  AskedTop  Ten  Questions  Catholics Are  Asked
Top Ten Questions Catholics Are Askedcharlie roy
 
Top ten-questions-catholics-are-asked
Top ten-questions-catholics-are-askedTop ten-questions-catholics-are-asked
Top ten-questions-catholics-are-askedSymon Nayupe
 
Baptism in thhe Holy Spirit Derek Prince (Naijasermons.com.ng).pdf
Baptism in thhe Holy Spirit Derek Prince (Naijasermons.com.ng).pdfBaptism in thhe Holy Spirit Derek Prince (Naijasermons.com.ng).pdf
Baptism in thhe Holy Spirit Derek Prince (Naijasermons.com.ng).pdfDesalegnFantaye2
 
Baptism document
Baptism documentBaptism document
Baptism documentDavid Sr.
 
Jesus was saying prayer is unlimited
Jesus was saying prayer is unlimitedJesus was saying prayer is unlimited
Jesus was saying prayer is unlimitedGLENN PEASE
 

Similar a Deeper 2 Arni Bisset - adult baptism (20)

Paul Torah Bestiality new testament
Paul Torah Bestiality new testamentPaul Torah Bestiality new testament
Paul Torah Bestiality new testament
 
Basic Hermeneutics Orientation
Basic Hermeneutics OrientationBasic Hermeneutics Orientation
Basic Hermeneutics Orientation
 
21 R C I A Sacrament Of Baptism
21    R C I A  Sacrament Of  Baptism21    R C I A  Sacrament Of  Baptism
21 R C I A Sacrament Of Baptism
 
Baptism Seminar: Provided by Pastor Bob Krueger of Immanuel Lutheran Church o...
Baptism Seminar: Provided by Pastor Bob Krueger of Immanuel Lutheran Church o...Baptism Seminar: Provided by Pastor Bob Krueger of Immanuel Lutheran Church o...
Baptism Seminar: Provided by Pastor Bob Krueger of Immanuel Lutheran Church o...
 
24 proph
 24 proph 24 proph
24 proph
 
The Beat - Our Mission
The Beat - Our MissionThe Beat - Our Mission
The Beat - Our Mission
 
Doctrine of baptism - Part 2
Doctrine of baptism - Part 2Doctrine of baptism - Part 2
Doctrine of baptism - Part 2
 
Confirmation 16 & 17 done
Confirmation 16 & 17 doneConfirmation 16 & 17 done
Confirmation 16 & 17 done
 
Theology of the child and young person.pptx
Theology of the child and young person.pptxTheology of the child and young person.pptx
Theology of the child and young person.pptx
 
Top ten-questions-catholics-are-asked-
Top ten-questions-catholics-are-asked-Top ten-questions-catholics-are-asked-
Top ten-questions-catholics-are-asked-
 
Lesson 2: Understanding The Bible
Lesson 2: Understanding The BibleLesson 2: Understanding The Bible
Lesson 2: Understanding The Bible
 
Basic Hermeneutics Lesson 1
Basic Hermeneutics Lesson 1Basic Hermeneutics Lesson 1
Basic Hermeneutics Lesson 1
 
Part 34. the mystery of godliness
Part 34. the mystery of godliness   Part 34. the mystery of godliness
Part 34. the mystery of godliness
 
2013 Book of Mormon: Chapter 13 (Institute Lesson by hgellor)
2013 Book of Mormon: Chapter 13 (Institute Lesson by hgellor)2013 Book of Mormon: Chapter 13 (Institute Lesson by hgellor)
2013 Book of Mormon: Chapter 13 (Institute Lesson by hgellor)
 
Top Ten Questions Catholics Are Asked
Top  Ten  Questions  Catholics Are  AskedTop  Ten  Questions  Catholics Are  Asked
Top Ten Questions Catholics Are Asked
 
Christian discipleship
Christian discipleshipChristian discipleship
Christian discipleship
 
Top ten-questions-catholics-are-asked
Top ten-questions-catholics-are-askedTop ten-questions-catholics-are-asked
Top ten-questions-catholics-are-asked
 
Baptism in thhe Holy Spirit Derek Prince (Naijasermons.com.ng).pdf
Baptism in thhe Holy Spirit Derek Prince (Naijasermons.com.ng).pdfBaptism in thhe Holy Spirit Derek Prince (Naijasermons.com.ng).pdf
Baptism in thhe Holy Spirit Derek Prince (Naijasermons.com.ng).pdf
 
Baptism document
Baptism documentBaptism document
Baptism document
 
Jesus was saying prayer is unlimited
Jesus was saying prayer is unlimitedJesus was saying prayer is unlimited
Jesus was saying prayer is unlimited
 

Más de Max Cross

False disciples Matthew 7 21 23
False disciples Matthew 7 21 23False disciples Matthew 7 21 23
False disciples Matthew 7 21 23Max Cross
 
Blessed are the meek – Matthew 5:5
Blessed are the meek – Matthew 5:5Blessed are the meek – Matthew 5:5
Blessed are the meek – Matthew 5:5Max Cross
 
Can't wait to get to work Luke 22 54-62
Can't wait to get to work  Luke 22 54-62Can't wait to get to work  Luke 22 54-62
Can't wait to get to work Luke 22 54-62Max Cross
 
Who is my master - Romans 6-15-23
Who is my master -  Romans 6-15-23Who is my master -  Romans 6-15-23
Who is my master - Romans 6-15-23Max Cross
 
Who is jesus our leader
Who is jesus  our leaderWho is jesus  our leader
Who is jesus our leaderMax Cross
 
The road to the throne 2 samuel 5
The road to the throne   2 samuel 5 The road to the throne   2 samuel 5
The road to the throne 2 samuel 5 Max Cross
 
Listen and do james 1 19-27
Listen and do  james 1 19-27Listen and do  james 1 19-27
Listen and do james 1 19-27Max Cross
 
Deeper 2 Robert Russell - infant baptism
Deeper 2  Robert Russell - infant baptismDeeper 2  Robert Russell - infant baptism
Deeper 2 Robert Russell - infant baptismMax Cross
 
Oli Lea - How Many Books Does Your Bible Have?
Oli Lea - How Many Books Does Your Bible Have?Oli Lea - How Many Books Does Your Bible Have?
Oli Lea - How Many Books Does Your Bible Have?Max Cross
 
Back To Basics Discernment No Notes
Back To Basics   Discernment   No NotesBack To Basics   Discernment   No Notes
Back To Basics Discernment No NotesMax Cross
 
Back To Basics Temptation 1 Corinthians 10:1-13
Back To Basics Temptation 1 Corinthians 10:1-13Back To Basics Temptation 1 Corinthians 10:1-13
Back To Basics Temptation 1 Corinthians 10:1-13Max Cross
 
Internet AwarenessV08.05
Internet AwarenessV08.05Internet AwarenessV08.05
Internet AwarenessV08.05Max Cross
 

Más de Max Cross (13)

False disciples Matthew 7 21 23
False disciples Matthew 7 21 23False disciples Matthew 7 21 23
False disciples Matthew 7 21 23
 
Blessed are the meek – Matthew 5:5
Blessed are the meek – Matthew 5:5Blessed are the meek – Matthew 5:5
Blessed are the meek – Matthew 5:5
 
Can't wait to get to work Luke 22 54-62
Can't wait to get to work  Luke 22 54-62Can't wait to get to work  Luke 22 54-62
Can't wait to get to work Luke 22 54-62
 
Who is my master - Romans 6-15-23
Who is my master -  Romans 6-15-23Who is my master -  Romans 6-15-23
Who is my master - Romans 6-15-23
 
Who is jesus our leader
Who is jesus  our leaderWho is jesus  our leader
Who is jesus our leader
 
The road to the throne 2 samuel 5
The road to the throne   2 samuel 5 The road to the throne   2 samuel 5
The road to the throne 2 samuel 5
 
Listen and do james 1 19-27
Listen and do  james 1 19-27Listen and do  james 1 19-27
Listen and do james 1 19-27
 
Deeper 2 Robert Russell - infant baptism
Deeper 2  Robert Russell - infant baptismDeeper 2  Robert Russell - infant baptism
Deeper 2 Robert Russell - infant baptism
 
Oli Lea - How Many Books Does Your Bible Have?
Oli Lea - How Many Books Does Your Bible Have?Oli Lea - How Many Books Does Your Bible Have?
Oli Lea - How Many Books Does Your Bible Have?
 
Back To Basics Discernment No Notes
Back To Basics   Discernment   No NotesBack To Basics   Discernment   No Notes
Back To Basics Discernment No Notes
 
Back To Basics Temptation 1 Corinthians 10:1-13
Back To Basics Temptation 1 Corinthians 10:1-13Back To Basics Temptation 1 Corinthians 10:1-13
Back To Basics Temptation 1 Corinthians 10:1-13
 
Great Sex
Great SexGreat Sex
Great Sex
 
Internet AwarenessV08.05
Internet AwarenessV08.05Internet AwarenessV08.05
Internet AwarenessV08.05
 

Deeper 2 Arni Bisset - adult baptism

  • 1. The Case for Believers Baptism Only
  • 2.
  • 3. In the original KJV its not so clear: Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: ….(KJV) The ‘baptizing them’ now refers to ‘all nations’, and not the sub set that have chosen to be disciples. Others say that ‘all nations’ means literally everyone. So without need for people to accept teaching first, this command is interpreted to require babies to be baptized.
  • 4. ‘make disciples’ or ‘teach’? The Greek word translated ‘make disciples’ / ‘teach’ occurs 4 times in NT: Mat 13:52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe [which is] instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man [that is] an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure [things] new and old. Mat 27:57 When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple : Act 14:21 And when they had preached the gospel to that city, and had taught many, they returned again to Lystra, and [to] Iconium, and Antioch, Note all the other instances of this word require participation by the subject. Root: a learner, pupil, disciple – from to learn, to understand. (Strongs 3100 root 3101 root 3129) I would suggest ‘teach’ is a translation error that has been corrected to ‘make disciples’ in the later translation.
  • 5. ‘ all nations’ – literally everyone? Examining usage of ‘nations’ in Matthew Nations would include babies in following verses Mat 25:32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides [his] sheep from the goats. Mat 21:43 "Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it. (Theoretically yes, but practically No.)
  • 6. ‘ all nations’ – literally everyone? Nations would Not include babies in remaining usage: Mat 24:9 "Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake. Mat 24:7 For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. Mat 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Need to consider the context to decide if reference to individuals is relevant On balance reasonable to conclude babies not included.
  • 7. Street preachers Speak in the hope that they are heard. This is not teaching, but a call that the spirit can use to open the hearers ears or harden their hearts. We can do the teaching independently, but to be effective requires pupil to be engaged, and the Lord to supply the Faith to accept the teaching.
  • 8. Street baptizers If we went round flicking water over passers by and pronouncing them baptized would they be baptized? Or would we be sinning by doing something without authority that is causing offense?
  • 9. Peter’s View of Baptism 1Pe 3:21 There is also an antitype which now saves us-- baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God) , through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
  • 10. Babies are pure Mat 19:14 But Jesus said, "Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of heaven ." Implies babies are part of Kingdome without being baptized. Mat 18:10 "Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that in heaven their angels always see the face of My Father who is in heaven . Implies there will come a time that that person’s angel(s) will not all ways see the Father. Why is that? Because they will grow into sinners? as Jesus says: Mat 9:13 ……For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance."
  • 11. What about Tradition? Reference to household baptisms in NT, assumed these included the babies. But references in the OT to all the household going to battle, would exclude babies. Long tradition of baptizing babies at birth, due high levels of infant mortality. We no longer believe that un-baptized babies are in danger of Hell fire as have better understanding of Gods grace. We are not slaves to tradition. We can chose to apply our understanding to develop tradition.
  • 12. Full Immersion or Sprinkling? If we fully immerse a baby is this going too far?
  • 13. What about Christenings? Unfortunately no clear definition of what a Christening is: to baptize in the name of Christ. or to give a name to.
  • 14. Why does it matter that we baptize babies? Christenings are a time to thank God and celebrate the birth. Opportunity for the church to be introduced to new member But what of the pain that is suffered when an adult baptism is subsequently denied? The consequence of doing something without the authority. Mat 18:7 Woe to the world because of offenses! For offenses must come, but woe to that man by whom the offense comes!
  • 15. Conclusion The Great commission Matt 28:19-20 gives authority to baptize disciples only.