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How to Hire and
Compensate the CSM Team
Carrie Oakes
BlueJeans Network
David Lieberman
Demandbase
Marcus Bragg
Zendesk
Omid Razavi
SAP
Carrie Oakes
Blue Jeans
Blue Jeans Network is a private cloud based company headquartered in
Mountain View, California. Our mission is to make video communications as
easy and pervasive as audio communications, enabling more effective
collaboration at work, at home, and on the road. Our cloud-based
conferencing service makes this possible by enabling customers to connect
with each other seamlessly any time, anywhere, and from practically any
device.
Sr. Director Customer Success
Blue Jeans CSM Team
F750
30-40 Accounts
•3 CSMs
•1 CSE
Enterprise/EDU
70-80 Accounts
•6 CSMs
Commercial
120-150 Accounts
•8 CSMs
Community
250 Accounts
•2 Community
Managers
• Managing 1900 customers
• Working on scaling the team
– Implementing a Channel CSM certification program
– Alerts and automation
– Community
General CSM Profile
• Strong personality
• Customer facing roles
• Tech savvy
• Not video shy
• Strong organizational skills
BlueJeans CSM Profile
Fortune 750 & Enterprise
• 5+ years experience in high profile
customer facing role
• Consulting background plus
• Farmer personality
Commercial
• 2-3 years in a customer facing role ,
plus if focused on IT
• Action-oriented with strong initiative
& follow through
• Farmer personality
SMB
• Community Manager
• Social personality
• Excellent content skills
• College graduate or 1-2 years in
customer facing role
MBO
• Growth in portfolio
• 10% customers – Specific Plan to
expand to LOBs
• 95% retention rate ARR
• 90% Pilot Conversions
• Implementation of 1 Stickiness
feature in 90% F750 and 75% in
Enterprise
• Account Management
• Responsible for adoption
• High touch marketing into other
LOB
• Pre Sale involvement
• Responsible for adoption
• Quick deployments
• Moderate check-ins
• Installed base marketing
MBO
• Growth in portfolio
• 90% retention rate ARR
• 80% Pilot Conversions
• Implementation of 1 Stickiness
feature in 75% of installed base
• 95% deployment in first 45 days
• Automation of deployment
• Content creation for Community
• Promotion of Community
• Community moderator
• Risk management
• 80% Community adoption
• 75% Community Retention
• Community content creation
Hiring Process
• Screening
• Hiring Manager screens over
Blue Jeans
• Interview committee
• 3-4 CSMs
• 1 Sales
• Recruiter
• Role Play
F750 Enterprise SMB
80% salary
20% MBO
80% salary
20% MBO
90% base
10% MBO
$100K-$20K $80K-$16K $60K-$6K
WE PARTNER WITH CUSTOMERS IN AN AGILE AND ITERATIVE WAY
Learn Goal
s
Proof-of-
concept
Resource
s
Launch Pla
n
Proces
s
Trainin
g
Love
Benchmar
k
Improv
e
CUSTOMER
SUCCESS
TEAMANALYTICS
Measuring and providing value
with data
Customized benchmarking
Reporting best practices
PRODUCT
Product maturity assessments
Best Practices Feedback
Program
Roadmap discussions
CSM
Customer Success Manager
Launch Guidance for enterprise customers
Discovery & technical assistance
Education & best practices programs
Mentor Program for continued Success
CSE
Customer Success Executive
Align to our top customers
Consultative, manage exec-level partnerships
Drive customer engagement via EBRs
Industry Experience: SFDC, Inquira, Right Now,
Brocade
Hire rockstars & open
communication with
Sales and Support
Define your Success
methodology
Define your top ‘X’
customer program
Team Alignment
Build
Success
Grow
Success
Evolve
Success
Individual Success
Manager Book of
business & Health
Score
Scale Success
engagements by
segment
Balance business
goals and
professional
development
Individual Success
Goals
Align customer
journey and with
Success goals
Shared Success Goals
Optimize for customer
relationships and trust
Team/Region
customer health-
driven KPI’s and
renewal targets
David Lieberman
Demandbase
VP, Customer Success
Our website isn’t effective!
Advertising isn’t working!
All the leads are bad!
PATENTED
IDENTIFICATION
AUDIENCE
MANAGEMENT
PERFORMANCE
DASHBOARDS
PROGRAMMATIC
B2B ADVERTISING
MARKETING/CRM
CONNECTORS
Hiring Top Notch Customer Success Managers
 Previous Customer Success experience
 Marketing Technology
 B2B
 Track record of exceeding quantitative performance metrics – sales
 Cultural fit
Interview team – internal vetting process
 Different people interview for different skills
 Debrief at end of day
 Strong hire, Hire, Pass
Demandbase Customer Success – What we look for….
 50% renewals
 30% upsells
 20% MBO
 Customer advocacy, TTL, TTV
Compensating Customer Success Managers
Customer Success Manager need to sell!
How to Hire and Compensate
Customer Success Team
Omid Razavi
SAP Cloud
@orazavi
19
Industry’s most
comprehensive
Cloud portfolio
The leading social
business platform
The largest and most
global business
network
Largest business
Cloud deployments
Annualized run rate
in Cloud business
Industry’s largest
base of Cloud
users
Market-leading public
apps (#1 in HCM,
Procurement, Business
Networks and Social
Collaboration) covering
all lines of business.
More users than
Chatter, Yammer, etc.
Over 1.4M connected
companies in 190
countries transacting
over half a trillion in
commerce annually –
the size of any other
business network…
SAP is now the
largest cloud
provider at-scale
with over 130% YoY
subscription revenue
growth.
35M 30+ 12M 2M+ €1.1B+1.4M
Some with more than
2M users.
Public, private and
managed service
offerings.
More business
professionals use
Cloud solutions from
SAP than from any
other vendor on the
planet.
SAP is Accelerating in the Cloud
© 2014 SAP AG All Rights Reserved
@orazavi
ARIBA BUSINESS NETWORK – BUSINESS COLLABORATION
SAP JAM – SOCIAL COLLABORATION
SAP HANA CLOUD PLATFORM
PEOPLE CUSTOMER
CORE HR CLOUD
Employee Central (EC)
EC Payroll
PERFORMANCE CLOUD
Performance & Goals
Compensation
Succession & Development
LEARNING CLOUD
RECRUITING CLOUD
HR ANALYTICS CLOUD
Workforce Analytics
Workforce Planning
CUSTOMER CLOUD
Cloud for Sales
Cloud for Service
Cloud for Marketing
Cloud for Social
Engagement
Social Media Analytics by
Netbase
SUPPLIER
SOURCING CLOUD
Sourcing Pro
Discovery
Contract Pro
Supplier Information
Management
PROCUREMENT CLOUD
Procure to Pay Pro
Services Procurement
Procurement Content
SPEND ANALYTICS CLOUD
Spend Visibility
MONEY
FINANCIAL CLOUD
Cloud for Financials
Cloud for Travel
Invoice Pro (Ariba)
Business ByDesign
Business One Cloud
Sales & Operations
Planning
$
¥ €
SAP Cloud Application Portfolio
© 2014 SAP AG All Rights Reserved
@orazavi
The goal of Customer Success is to drive
business growth
Premium
Success
Monetized Success Plans are key to
sustained business growth
Customer Success Goals
@orazavi
Cloud Customer Journey
Land + Expand + Network Growth Strategies
Expand
Deeper Use
Interact
Community
Crowdsource
Marketplace
1) Land more customers, faster!
2) Expand use, value and footprint!
3) Enable the Network Effect!
Success
(Primary)
Success
(Shared)
Success
(None)
Win! Go Live!
Lead Evaluation
Buy Onboard Deliver
Support/Su
ccess
Renew
Awareness
Outcome
KPIs
Upsell
Cross-sell
CustomerValue
Time @orazavi
Business
Strategic –
Business Outcome
CxO
VP Line of Business
Adoption Services
Business Insight &
Outcome
QBR/ABR Advisory20,000+
Application
Application –
Meets needs, easy,
…
Users – Employees,
managers, partners &
contingent workers
Onboarding
E-Learning
Guidance
SS/Auto Provisioning
In-App Support35,000,000 Users
Technology
Technical –
Administration,
Integration,
Architecture,
Security, …
CIO, VP of IT
App/Sys Administrator
IT Ops Mgr
Technical Support,
Admin T & C
Integ Monitored Sup.
Global Operations
15,000+
Customer
Value
Management
Customer Roles Success Services
Renewal
Mgmt
Customer
Success
Management
Customer Success Roles & Objectives
Success By Roles
@orazavi
Persona
Hiring & Compensating Customer Success
• Hiring
– Customer and Data Skills (Analysis, Synthesis, Insight, Dialog and Action)
– 3+ Years experience in Sales, Marketing, Support, Services or related
• Compensating
– Team and individual targets for business growth, customer success CSAT/NPS and
practice development (mentoring, innovating & KB contribution)
• Career Tracks
– Management: CSM  (S)Manager CS  (S)Director CS  RVP CS  …
– Leadership: Success products, programs & package development Leader
@orazavi
Omid Razavi, Ph.D.
Global Customer Success & Growth
@ SAP Cloud linkedin.com/in/orazavi
@orazavi
+1 650 645 4475
omid.razavi@sap.com
orazavi@gmail.com
Thank you!
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How to Hire and Compensate Your Customer Success Management Team

  • 1. How to Hire and Compensate the CSM Team Carrie Oakes BlueJeans Network David Lieberman Demandbase Marcus Bragg Zendesk Omid Razavi SAP
  • 2. Carrie Oakes Blue Jeans Blue Jeans Network is a private cloud based company headquartered in Mountain View, California. Our mission is to make video communications as easy and pervasive as audio communications, enabling more effective collaboration at work, at home, and on the road. Our cloud-based conferencing service makes this possible by enabling customers to connect with each other seamlessly any time, anywhere, and from practically any device. Sr. Director Customer Success
  • 3. Blue Jeans CSM Team F750 30-40 Accounts •3 CSMs •1 CSE Enterprise/EDU 70-80 Accounts •6 CSMs Commercial 120-150 Accounts •8 CSMs Community 250 Accounts •2 Community Managers • Managing 1900 customers • Working on scaling the team – Implementing a Channel CSM certification program – Alerts and automation – Community
  • 4. General CSM Profile • Strong personality • Customer facing roles • Tech savvy • Not video shy • Strong organizational skills
  • 5. BlueJeans CSM Profile Fortune 750 & Enterprise • 5+ years experience in high profile customer facing role • Consulting background plus • Farmer personality Commercial • 2-3 years in a customer facing role , plus if focused on IT • Action-oriented with strong initiative & follow through • Farmer personality SMB • Community Manager • Social personality • Excellent content skills • College graduate or 1-2 years in customer facing role MBO • Growth in portfolio • 10% customers – Specific Plan to expand to LOBs • 95% retention rate ARR • 90% Pilot Conversions • Implementation of 1 Stickiness feature in 90% F750 and 75% in Enterprise • Account Management • Responsible for adoption • High touch marketing into other LOB • Pre Sale involvement • Responsible for adoption • Quick deployments • Moderate check-ins • Installed base marketing MBO • Growth in portfolio • 90% retention rate ARR • 80% Pilot Conversions • Implementation of 1 Stickiness feature in 75% of installed base • 95% deployment in first 45 days • Automation of deployment • Content creation for Community • Promotion of Community • Community moderator • Risk management • 80% Community adoption • 75% Community Retention • Community content creation
  • 6. Hiring Process • Screening • Hiring Manager screens over Blue Jeans • Interview committee • 3-4 CSMs • 1 Sales • Recruiter • Role Play F750 Enterprise SMB 80% salary 20% MBO 80% salary 20% MBO 90% base 10% MBO $100K-$20K $80K-$16K $60K-$6K
  • 7.
  • 8. WE PARTNER WITH CUSTOMERS IN AN AGILE AND ITERATIVE WAY Learn Goal s Proof-of- concept Resource s Launch Pla n Proces s Trainin g Love Benchmar k Improv e
  • 9.
  • 10. CUSTOMER SUCCESS TEAMANALYTICS Measuring and providing value with data Customized benchmarking Reporting best practices PRODUCT Product maturity assessments Best Practices Feedback Program Roadmap discussions CSM Customer Success Manager Launch Guidance for enterprise customers Discovery & technical assistance Education & best practices programs Mentor Program for continued Success CSE Customer Success Executive Align to our top customers Consultative, manage exec-level partnerships Drive customer engagement via EBRs Industry Experience: SFDC, Inquira, Right Now, Brocade
  • 11. Hire rockstars & open communication with Sales and Support Define your Success methodology Define your top ‘X’ customer program Team Alignment Build Success Grow Success Evolve Success Individual Success Manager Book of business & Health Score Scale Success engagements by segment Balance business goals and professional development Individual Success Goals Align customer journey and with Success goals Shared Success Goals Optimize for customer relationships and trust Team/Region customer health- driven KPI’s and renewal targets
  • 13. Our website isn’t effective! Advertising isn’t working! All the leads are bad!
  • 15.
  • 16. Hiring Top Notch Customer Success Managers  Previous Customer Success experience  Marketing Technology  B2B  Track record of exceeding quantitative performance metrics – sales  Cultural fit Interview team – internal vetting process  Different people interview for different skills  Debrief at end of day  Strong hire, Hire, Pass Demandbase Customer Success – What we look for….
  • 17.  50% renewals  30% upsells  20% MBO  Customer advocacy, TTL, TTV Compensating Customer Success Managers Customer Success Manager need to sell!
  • 18. How to Hire and Compensate Customer Success Team Omid Razavi SAP Cloud @orazavi
  • 19. 19 Industry’s most comprehensive Cloud portfolio The leading social business platform The largest and most global business network Largest business Cloud deployments Annualized run rate in Cloud business Industry’s largest base of Cloud users Market-leading public apps (#1 in HCM, Procurement, Business Networks and Social Collaboration) covering all lines of business. More users than Chatter, Yammer, etc. Over 1.4M connected companies in 190 countries transacting over half a trillion in commerce annually – the size of any other business network… SAP is now the largest cloud provider at-scale with over 130% YoY subscription revenue growth. 35M 30+ 12M 2M+ €1.1B+1.4M Some with more than 2M users. Public, private and managed service offerings. More business professionals use Cloud solutions from SAP than from any other vendor on the planet. SAP is Accelerating in the Cloud © 2014 SAP AG All Rights Reserved @orazavi
  • 20. ARIBA BUSINESS NETWORK – BUSINESS COLLABORATION SAP JAM – SOCIAL COLLABORATION SAP HANA CLOUD PLATFORM PEOPLE CUSTOMER CORE HR CLOUD Employee Central (EC) EC Payroll PERFORMANCE CLOUD Performance & Goals Compensation Succession & Development LEARNING CLOUD RECRUITING CLOUD HR ANALYTICS CLOUD Workforce Analytics Workforce Planning CUSTOMER CLOUD Cloud for Sales Cloud for Service Cloud for Marketing Cloud for Social Engagement Social Media Analytics by Netbase SUPPLIER SOURCING CLOUD Sourcing Pro Discovery Contract Pro Supplier Information Management PROCUREMENT CLOUD Procure to Pay Pro Services Procurement Procurement Content SPEND ANALYTICS CLOUD Spend Visibility MONEY FINANCIAL CLOUD Cloud for Financials Cloud for Travel Invoice Pro (Ariba) Business ByDesign Business One Cloud Sales & Operations Planning $ ¥ € SAP Cloud Application Portfolio © 2014 SAP AG All Rights Reserved @orazavi
  • 21. The goal of Customer Success is to drive business growth Premium Success Monetized Success Plans are key to sustained business growth Customer Success Goals @orazavi
  • 22. Cloud Customer Journey Land + Expand + Network Growth Strategies Expand Deeper Use Interact Community Crowdsource Marketplace 1) Land more customers, faster! 2) Expand use, value and footprint! 3) Enable the Network Effect! Success (Primary) Success (Shared) Success (None) Win! Go Live! Lead Evaluation Buy Onboard Deliver Support/Su ccess Renew Awareness Outcome KPIs Upsell Cross-sell CustomerValue Time @orazavi
  • 23. Business Strategic – Business Outcome CxO VP Line of Business Adoption Services Business Insight & Outcome QBR/ABR Advisory20,000+ Application Application – Meets needs, easy, … Users – Employees, managers, partners & contingent workers Onboarding E-Learning Guidance SS/Auto Provisioning In-App Support35,000,000 Users Technology Technical – Administration, Integration, Architecture, Security, … CIO, VP of IT App/Sys Administrator IT Ops Mgr Technical Support, Admin T & C Integ Monitored Sup. Global Operations 15,000+ Customer Value Management Customer Roles Success Services Renewal Mgmt Customer Success Management Customer Success Roles & Objectives Success By Roles @orazavi Persona
  • 24. Hiring & Compensating Customer Success • Hiring – Customer and Data Skills (Analysis, Synthesis, Insight, Dialog and Action) – 3+ Years experience in Sales, Marketing, Support, Services or related • Compensating – Team and individual targets for business growth, customer success CSAT/NPS and practice development (mentoring, innovating & KB contribution) • Career Tracks – Management: CSM  (S)Manager CS  (S)Director CS  RVP CS  … – Leadership: Success products, programs & package development Leader @orazavi
  • 25. Omid Razavi, Ph.D. Global Customer Success & Growth @ SAP Cloud linkedin.com/in/orazavi @orazavi +1 650 645 4475 omid.razavi@sap.com orazavi@gmail.com Thank you!
  • 26. Q & A

Editor's Notes

  1. Have you heard these common complaints? Many marketers work hard defending their ability to attract, engage and convert new opportunities for the business. But no one (especially Sales) ever seems to be happy.Most of the time, marketers are missing a key strategic focus…they’re marketing to masses of individuals, looking for anyone to show interest. Using tactics that originated with consumer marketing…We like to call that mass backwardsALSO:In a recent survey of more than 1,150 B2B sales executives only 31 percent of marketing generated leads were considered suitable. -Sales Speaks: Perceptions & Ponderings on Marketing Leads, The Bridge Group and Vorsight
  2. Demandbase offers the only comprehensive set of marketing solutions purpose built for the account-based needs of B2B. Demandbase's B2B Marketing Cloud changes the game. At its core are powerful technologies that combine to help marketers get results:Patented Identification technology that allows marketers to see and target specific companies on their website and across the web Audience Management functionality that organizes and focuses acquisition, retention and growth effortsPerformance Dashboards to help you visualize all your efforts across the funnel and turn analytics into actionable insightProgrammatic B2B Advertising technology for targeting specific companies across multiple channels: display, mobile, social and video, plus retargeting custom-built for B2BMarketing/CRM Connectors that enhance your current marketing technologies and make them work for B2B
  3. The B2B Marketing Cloud includes a comprehensive set of marketing solutions that help you market and sell to other businessesAdvertising Solutions for attracting the target companies and business audiences to your website, with zero waste.Personalization Solutions plug into any CMS, testing tool or plain HTML to allow native website personalization.Conversion Solutionsincrease conversions rates by shortening forms without sacrificing company details that are important to marketing automation programs and customer databases.Demandbase Consulting Services help you get maximum value and performance:Go-Live Services—Get implemented and see value quickly and easilyAccount-Based Marketing Services—Training, assessment or workshops on the best way to combine technology and strategy for optimal B2B resultsPerformance Management Services—Hands-on consulting engagements where we offer our deep technology expertise and B2B marketing best practices from our experience helping hundreds of top-tier customers.
  4. NOTES:SAP has transformed itself into a leading force in the Cloud35M users Most comprehensive Cloud portfolio12M Jam Largest business network – 1.2M, ½ trillion in global commerceLargest cloud implementation – 2.2M subscribersOver€1B run rate#1 in HCM, Procurement, Business Networks, Social Business CollaborationAriba 10x next largest competitorHCM 10 of 10 analyst leaderTRANSITION:This is accomplished by best-in-class applications along People, Customer, Supplier and Money pillars
  5. NOTES:This is accomplished by best-in-class applications along People, Customer, Supplier and Money pillars, plusSAP Jam forsocialcollaborationforemployees, partnersandcustomersAriba Network for B2B Business collaborationprocessautomationandbettercompliance. HANA CloudPlatforma developmentenvironmenttocreateprocessextensionsornewapps.Weknowwecannotcompete on productsandfeaturesalone. As customer experience leaders, we are resetting the types of experienceWewanttodiffrentiatebased on ourcustomers‘ experiencealongeverystepoftheirjourney.TRANSITION:Customer jouerney