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Technology Research
November 4, 2013

IT Systems & Networking
October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

Jayson Noland, CFA
jnoland@rwbaird.com
415.364.3343

Kimberly Evers
kevers@rwbaird.com
415.364.3347

Please refer to Appendix - Important Disclosures and Analyst Certification on
Page 18

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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Profile of Survey Sample
 Sample size: 84 survey participants (predominantly within the Enterprise and
Commercial verticals)
 Revenue profile: ~$10 billion in estimated annual Cisco product sales

 Cisco Partner Status: 49% Gold, 21% Premier, 10% Select, 11% Silver, and
8% Other/NA
 Cisco sales represent ~33% of the average respondent’s total annual revenue
Total Annual Firm Revenue
22

Geographic Distribution
22

100%
90%

17

0%

4%
12%

22%

80%

14

70%

24%
APAC (Asia Pacific)

60%

9

CALA (Latin America)

50%
40%
30%

<$10

$10-$50

$50-$100

$100 - $250

>$250

77%

EMEA (Europe, Middle
East, Africa)

61%
AMER (North America)

20%
10%

$ in millions
Source: Robert W. Baird & Co.

0%
Unweighted

Revenue Weighted

* Weighted by Cisco product sales, not total firm revenue
Source: Robert W. Baird & Co.

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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FQ1 Cisco Product Sales

“How would you characterize your Cisco product sales during AUGUST - OCTOBER (Cisco's Fiscal
Q1)?”
 Regarding Cisco’s FQ1, 35% of respondents cited a “Better Than Plan” quarter, 39% noted an “In-Line” quarter, and 26% cited a
“Below Plan” quarter.
 The net score of 8% declined QoQ as expected, and looks healthy versus historical FQ1 responses in our survey.
Sales relative to expectations - Survey History
Net Score
40%
30%

Sales relative to expectations - Survey FQ1 History
15%
10%

20%

5%

10%

0%

0%
-10%
-20%

-5%

Net Score 5-Year Avg

-10%

-30%

-15%

-40%

-20%

-50%

5-Year Avg

-25%
FQ1'09 FQ1'10 FQ1'11 FQ1'12 FQ1'13 FQ1'14

FQ1'14: 84 responses

FQ1'14: 84 responses

Source: Robert W. Baird & Co; Note: Net Score is Defined as "Above Plan" responses - "Below Plan"

Source: Robert W. Baird & Co; Note: Net Score is Defined as "Above Plan" responses - "Below Plan"

Responses

Responses

Commentary:
 “Big deals dominate the performance.” (>$250M)
 “Momentum has slowed a bit since Q4.” (>$250M)
 “Typical cyclic trend, quieter start to the year after the push to close the previous financial year.” (>$250M)

 “We have a renewed focus on Cisco that has accelerated our Unified Communications and Data Center business. We believe Cisco is a growth engine.” (>$250M)
 “Hockey stick in October.” ($100M-$250M)
 “Strong growth. Customers are moving on projects.” (>$250M)
 “Pretty much as expected, soft at the end of Aug, but that is typical seasonality.” (>$250M)
 “I used to joke that a few years ago, Cisco was the 800 lb. gorilla asleep in the corner. Well, Cisco woke up. Over the last several quarters, Cisco has been
everywhere and very aggressive on pricing. Cisco has also been bundling very successfully.” (<$50M)
 “India market still depressed.” (<$50M)

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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FQ1 Cisco Product Sales by Geo and Size

“How would you characterize your Cisco product sales during AUGUST - OCTOBER (Cisco's Fiscal
Q1)?”
 While the North American net score declined QoQ (in line with seasonality), it is still well above the five-year historical average
FQ1 for the region.
 The Europe net score also declined QoQ (in line with seasonality), but is now above the five-year historical average FQ1 for the
geography.
 Large VARs (>$100 million), achieved a net score still well above the FQ1 historical average for the cohort. Based on
conversations with respondents, we believe Large VARs continue to take share from smaller, regional VARs.

Sales relative to expectations by Geography
North America

Sales relative to expectations by VAR Size

Europe

60%
40%
20%

Small VARs (<$100 million revenue)

Large VARs (>$100 million revenue)

80%
60%

40%
20%

0%

0%
-20%

-20%

-40%

-40%

-60%

-60%

FQ1'14: North America - 51 responses. Europe - 20 responses. Rest of World - 13 responses.
Percentage shown is the differential between 'above expectations' and 'above expectations'
Source: Robert W. Baird & Co.

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

FQ1'14: North America - 51 responses. Europe - 20 responses. Rest of World - 13 responses.
Percentage shown is the differential between 'above expectations' and 'below expectations'
Source: Baird July 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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Cisco FQ2 Outlook

“What are your expectations for your Cisco product sales for NOVEMBER - JANUARY (Cisco's Fiscal
Q2) relative to normal seasonality?”
 Regarding expectations for Cisco’s FQ2 outlook, 42% of respondents expect a “Better Than Seasonal” quarter, 46% expect
“Normal Seasonality,” and 12% expect a “Worse Than Seasonal” quarter.
 The overall net score for the FQ2 outlook was the highest ever for the January quarter in the five years of this survey.
Next-quarter outlook - Survey History
Net Score
60%

Next-quarter outlook - FQ4 Survey History
30%
25%

40%

20%

20%

15%

0%

10%

Net Score
5-Year Average

5%

-20%

0%

-40%

-5%
-60%

-10%
FQ1'09
FQ4'13: 87 responses
Source: Robert W. Baird & Co; Note: Net Score is Defined as % of "Better than Seasonal" responses - % of
"Worse than Seasonal" Responses

FQ1'10

FQ1'11

FQ1'12

FQ1'13

FQ1'14

FQ4'13: 87 responses
Source: Robert W. Baird & Co; Note: Net Score is Defined as % of "Better than Seasonal" responses - % of
"Worse than Seasonal" Responses

Commentary:
 “Usually a slower time frame but strong pipeline might make this a good qtr.” (<$50M)

 “Large projects will support above-average growth into next quarter.” ($50M-$100M)
“This period is typically our largest Cisco quarter. We are looking at somewhere between 30% and 40% growth YoY.” (>$250M)
 “Pipeline is up Year over Year.” (>$250M)
 “More concerned about macro economics, like the government debt ceiling affecting our business; otherwise normal.” (>$250M)
 “Lots of DC projects and wireless is heating up.” ($50M-$100M)
 “Slowing UCS pipe.” (>$250M)
 “Pipeline for calendar year-end is stronger than normal seasonality.” ($100M-$250M)

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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Cisco FQ2 Outlook by Geo and VAR Size

“What are your expectations for your Cisco product sales for NOVEMBER - JANUARY (Cisco's fiscal
Q1) relative to normal seasonality?”
 Respondents from North America continue to fare better than Europe. The net score for North America remains well above the fiveyear FQ2 average, while Europe remains slightly below the historical average.
 We note our survey underweights emerging markets, which was recently cited as an area of softness for Cisco.

Sales outlook by Geography
North America

Europe

60%
40%
20%

0%
-20%
-40%
-60%

FQ1'14 Survey: North America - 51 responses. Europe - 20 responses. Rest of World - 13 responses.
Percentage shown is the differential between 'better than normal' and 'worse than normal'
Source: Robert W. Baird & Co.

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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Impact of Recent Restructuring
“Has Cisco’s recent restructuring had any impact on your Cisco business?”

 Most respondents cited no impact from the recent (4,000 headcount) reduction at Cisco.
 We note of those citing an impact, a disproportionate amount are coming from the Small VAR category and the Asia region.
Has Cisco's recent restructuring had any impact on your Cisco business?

Yes
23%

No
77%

Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey
Based on 83 responses

Commentary:
 “A few deck chairs need to be backfilled or shared, but nothing important.” (>$250M)
 “Too early to tell but I would expect no negative impact.” (>$250M)
 “Lost some key people that we have worked with for years.” ($100M-$250M)
 “Restructure in conjunction with industry challenges and economic uncertainty.” (>$250M)
 “There's been a loss of momentum on the Channels support side. This has stalled some deals.” ($100M-$250M)
 “No impact as of yet, but I hear there are still many layoffs to be done.” ($100M-$250M)
 “Have not seen much impact yet, although some decision making processes have taken longer than usual and there has been an additional level of oversight.” (>$250M)
 “This has had a minor disruption on our coverage, but the focus on minimizing disruption seems high. It will not reflect our results.” (>$250M)
 “Things are going OK. The Cisco restructuring is very noticeable, there’s tremendous pressure in the field – a lot of intimidation or hard line attitude coming from Sales management.
A lot of people are scratching their head and saying why did they have to lay off 4,000 people. It’s almost like they wanted to create this image to Wall Street that they’re lean and
mean.” (>$250M)

 “More difficult for you to locate personnel.” (<$50M)

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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Aggressive Pricing by Cisco

“Have you seen any abnormal pricing aggression from Cisco in the quarter?”
 Overall, most respondents did not cite aggressive pricing from Cisco in the quarter; this figure continues to improve over the last two quarters
(68% cited “No” in FQ3’13, 70% in FQ4’13).
 Of those that responded “Yes”, we continued to observe a higher proportion of European respondents, and now also Asian respondents that cited
pricing pressure.
 Small VARs continue to be more likely than Large VARs to witness aggressive pricing behavior from Cisco.

Have you seen any abnormal pricing pressure by Cisco in the quarter?
Yes
25%

No
75%

Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey
Based on 81 responses

Commentary:
 “Too many partners and Cisco still driving close with discount not solutions.” (<$50M)
 “Seen lower pricing competition from HP in switching, which is putting pressure on Cisco.” (<$50M)

 “HP Networking took a major deal over Cisco recently. HPN came in with a better price, and everything is LPTA (Lowest Price, Technically Acceptable) in the Federal
government right now.” ($50M-$100M)
 “High pressure with gray market pricing - in the market a lot of discussions with customers about pricing” (<$50M)
 “I have found we are competing with refurbished Cisco product.” (<$50M)

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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Cisco & Competitive Dynamics

“Is Cisco currently facing serious competition from any of the following vendors in the switching market?
(Multiple answers accepted)”
 HP Networking continues to rank as the most serious competitor to Cisco, but qualitative conversations lead us to believe HPN has lost
significant momentum.
 We view Arista as the strongest data center competitor to Cisco currently – we note Arista doesn’t yet have comparable breadth in
channel relationships.
Cisco's most significant competitor in the Data Center Switching market?

Cisco's most significant competitor in the Campus Switching market?

HP Networking

HP Networking

Juniper

Juniper

Brocade

Brocade

Arista

No significant competition

No significant competition

Extreme

Huawei

Dell/Force10

Dell Force10

Huawei

Extreme

Arista

Other

Other
0

10

20

30

40

50

0

Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

40

60

Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

Based on 83 responses; multiple responses accepted

20

Based on 82 responses; multiple responses accepted

Commentary:
 “HP seems to be the only company with the strength, size, presence and cost structure to impact Cisco.” (>$250M)
 “Our Juniper business is flat. We had a great year last year, so flat isn’t necessarily bad. We lost a couple of very, very large deals against Cisco. A lot of the quality issues around
SRX and JUNOS are in the past. The CEO at Juniper before Kevin used to say that on one end of the spectrum is Cisco, and on the other is point players. Juniper wanted to be in the
middle. They kind of are in the middle now. They aren’t known for anything.” (<$50M)

 “Overall, I’d say HP is slowly moving in the right direction; the key words are slowly and right. HP Networking has a very specific place, which is basically Public Sector.”
(>$250M)
 “At least in India, presence and acceptance of other players are negligible.” (<$50M)
 “HP Networking has fallen on its face. I only have two sales reps that act like they want to work with HPN. I don’t even know who my HP Networking channel person is
anymore. Their whole value-prop is being cheaper than Cisco… and free maintenance…but what does that mean long-term? It’s a bit of a savings now versus pain later.”
(>$250M)
 “Juniper’s wireless product is nothing. It’s not like the SRX where it has technical issues, but it’s just not competitive relative to Aruba, Cisco, or Meraki.” (<$50M)
 “We are pretty excited about Arista. A Cisco veteran in our area just joined them. He’s a rainmaker. Their architecture makes a lot of sense to me, and they have a great
management team.” (<$50M)
 Arista is the other one that apparently has a pretty compelling offer. My engineers say Arista’s 10GBASE offering is very compelling.” (>$250M)
 “We hear a lot of noise about competitors, but as Juniper and HP have continued to decline, customers seem to be back on board with Cisco solutions.” (>$250M)

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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Cisco Demand by Product

“How would you describe demand trends for the following Cisco products currently?”
 We’ve asked a similar question on Cisco products for five quarters. Data Center Switch, UCS, and Core Routing have
consistently scored at the top. WAN optimization and Collaboration continue to score at the bottom.
 In this quarter, we asked about Core versus Edge Routing and Switching separately; we note the net scores for Edge were
significantly lower than Core.
 Network Security has edged up in this survey, while ISE has fallen in the rankings.
Cisco Product by Demand - FQ1
Strong

Weak

DC Switch
UCS
Core Route
WLAN
Network Security
Edge Switch
Edge Route
Collaboration
ISE
WAN Optimization
-125

Very Strong
Healthy
OK
Muted
Very Weak

-25

75

175

Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey
Based on 83 responses; chart depicts a net score in which 'Very Strong' = *3, 'Solid' = *2, 'OK' = *1, 'Muted' = *-2, and 'Very Weak' = *-3

Commentary:
“Riverbed and F5 are taking the WAAS and ACE business...” (>$250M)
“Increase attributed to Data Center / UCS initiatives.” ($100M-$250M)
“Lots of DC projects and wireless is heating up.” ($50M-$100M)
“We’ve definitely seen an uptick in major core Cisco products over the last six months. Customers are looking at Meraki and trying to figure out how much of that makes sense for
them. If I were to bet on a product line at Cisco that will explode over the next 18 months, it would be Meraki. I think Cisco understands the opportunity and has a very specific
plan.” (>$250M)
“UCS is wood behind the iron for sure. Cisco has the right pricing, tactics, and message with this product. It’s a very strong play.“ (>$250M)
“Continued growth in DC/UCS and ISE technology.” ($100M-$250M)
“Innovation in the Collaboration space is desperately needed. Cisco is totally missing it with no real identifiable strategy on Enterprise Social Applications and Social customer care
solutions.” ($100M-$250M)
“Slowing UCS pipe.” (>$250M)
 “ISE is getting a lot of traction.” ($100M-$250M)

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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SDN Adoption
“When do you expect to see mainstream enterprise adoption of SDN? (Multiple answers accepted)”
 Almost 70% of respondents expect SDN to achieve mainstream enterprise adoption within the next two years, which was faster than
we would have expected.
 We note during conversations with resellers, most indicated a lack of consensus of what a typical SDN deployment would look like.
When do you expect SDN to see mainstream enterprise adoption?
6 months
1%
1 year
24%

Never
7%
4+ years
10%

3 years
14%

2 years
44%
Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey
Based on 84 responses

Commentary:

 “Most are still trying to realize the true business case for SDN” (>$250M)
 “I seriously doubt that application vendors will develop software depending on the network vendor.” (<$50M)
 “SDN is a difficult theme in the real life.” (<$50M)
 “Without unified adoption of a single set of standards and practices by ALL service providers (good luck), SDN will evolved to mean Next Generation Network Management
for the enterprise.” (>$250M)
 “There is a trend in this direction and interest to learn more, but the path for customers is unclear. Partners are still separating the marketing from the real
value/opportunity.” (>$250M)
 “Vaporware.” ($50M-$100M)
 “Other than VMware, I don't see anyone talking about it.” (>$250M)
 “Cisco and VMware have two competing visions. There is no clear winner today.” ($100M-$250M)

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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Key SDN Features
“Which SDN features will customers find most compelling? (Multiple answers accepted)”
 “Automated provisioning and configuring” ranked No. 1, followed by “Network management and orchestration,” and “Layer 4-7
services.”
 We note at a recent ONUG (Open Networking User Group) event, L4-7 services was most popular by vote. (Please see our Industry
Note detailing this event for more details.)
Which SDN features will customers find most compelling?
Automated provisioning and configuring
Network management and orchestration
Layer 4-7 services (Security, load balancing etc)

Network monitoring
Increased scalability (breaking 4K VLAN limit)
Traffic shaping
Not sure yet

Other
0

20

40

60

Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey
Based on 84 responses; multiple responses accepted

Other responses include: “Application programmability”, “Centralized policy management”, “Vendor Independence”
Commentary – Insieme:
 “Focus will be on benefits of hardware defined networking versus SDN. No impact of Insieme as yet. Expect customer questions after launch next month.” ($100M-$250M)
 “I wonder if EMC has a take on that which could have more of an effect.” (<$50M)
 “Seeing it the field now. Insieme is the path forward in the data center. Cisco needs a good migration strategy.” (>$250M)
 “Insieme is not GA yet so no field traction but Cisco's approach to Application Centric SDN should position them for a more broad conversation and opportunity than the
approach many others are taking.” (>$250M)
Commentary – competitive landscape:
 “Cisco is the leading vendor in SDN.” (<$50M)
 “Juniper’s SDN seems to be the real deal from what we can tell at this point. We have a large bid out now. I feel like they really accelerated things with Contrail, and they
seem to be somewhat at the forefront.” (<$50M)
 “We feel that [it] is theirs to lose” [re: Cisco] (>$250M)
 “Adoption of VMware centric solutions will be tough competition for Cisco.” ($50M-$100M)

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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WHIPTAIL Acquisition
“Do you expect Cisco’s acquisition of WHIPTAIL to impact its relationship with its storage partners
within the next year?”
 Slightly over 30% of respondents expect no impact to either EMC or NetApp within the next year.
 Only 16% and 12% expect a meaningful impact to EMC and NetApp, respectively, in the next year.
 Qualitative feedback suggests some skepticism that this is Cisco’s first and last move into storage.
WHIPTAIL acquistion to impact Cisco's relationship with EMC (in the next year)?
Yes meaningful
impact
16%

Yes - slight
impact
53%

WHIPTAIL acquistion to impact Cisco's relationship with NetApp (in the next year)?
Yes meaningful
impact
12%

No impact
31%

No impact
32%

Yes - slight
impact
56%

Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

Based on 83 responses

Based on 83 responses

Commentary:
 “We believe that Cisco is not aiming for the storage market. Whiptail's technology will be leverage in upcoming UCS servers as well as in future switching products.” (>$250M)
 “This will of course cause some issue with Storage partners.” ($50M-$100M)
 “Cisco messaging is that Whiptail will be UCS only not a storage play.” (>$250M)
 “Both Cisco and EMC have made public statements to partners on strategic directions and Cisco/EMC partnerships.” ($100M-$250M)
 “Cisco says it is not a competitive move, but we will see.” (>$250M)
 “All Flash Storage will become a reality soon and thus will move all IT vendors to offer customized application integrated solutions.” ($50M-$100M)
 “Anxiously awaiting to hear what products will be available.” ($100M-$250M)
 “I think it is just the beginning.” (>$250M)
 “I believe this is a strong acquisition by Cisco and a vision into Cisco changing the game in the market.” ($50M-$100M)
 “As we understand the intended implementation will only complement SAN providers, not compete on a large scale.” (>$250M)

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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Virtual ADC Solutions

“In the Enterprise segment, have you seen deals go virtual in ADC?”
 Roughly 27% of respondents cited virtual ADC deals, including some large VARs.
Within the Enterprise segment, have you seen ADC deals go virtual?

Within the Enterprise segment, have you see

Yes
27%

No
73%

Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey
Based on 77 responses

Commentary on Vendors:
 “ADC for a while on the virtual front.” (>$250M)
 “I believe Riverbed is struggling in Federal. The OPNET integration is not going well and they are seeing a lot of attrition within their Federal sales organization. To save money, they
are cutting corners on compensation, which is causing additional attrition in Federal.” ($50M-$100M)
 “We had a great year with Riverbed last year, so it’s tough to compare. Our business is solid right now, but still below where we were last year. We are seeing some traction in other
product lines, like Granite and Stingray. With Granite, Riverbed has done a good job of providing support to partners for Granite.” (<$50M)
 “F5 doing better .” (>$250M)
 “Riverbed is overwhelmingly strong. Cisco lost contact to the market leader.” (<$50M)
 “I don't see much of either.” (>$250M)
 “Seeing a slight uptick in Riverbed interest/opportunities.” ($100M-$250M)
 “Riverbed growing stronger. F5 seems to be treading water.” (>$250M)
 “Both F5 and Riverbed have made great advances in mindshare over the past 18 months.” (>$250M)
 “Riverbed seems to be in tailspin. F5 and Citrix seem to be winning share.” (>$250M)
 “F5 is strong.” ($50M-$100M)
 “F5 was awarded a multi-million portion of a major networking and security deal within a Federal agency. The F5 portion was for load balancing. We thought A10 would be able to
knock F5 off but apparently not.” ($50M-$100M)

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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APT Security

“Within the Advanced Persistent Threat (APT) market, who is seeing the most success? (Multiple
responses accepted).”
 We continue to see Palo Alto Networks as the most popular APT vendor cited by channel respondents (consistent with our April 2013
survey)
 We also hear FireEye has a leading APT solution that is generating significant customer interest – we note FireEye is likely underdistributed
Within the APT (Advanced Persistent Threat) market, who is seeing the most success?
Palo Alto Networks - WildFire
FireEye

Check Point - ThreatCloud Emulation Service
Fortinet - FortiGuard Cloud-Based Sandboxing Service
Sourcefire - FireAMP
Trend Micro - Deep Discovery
Other
0

10

20

30

Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey
Based on 73 responses in aggregate; multiple responses accepted

Commentary on APT:
 “FireEye and Sourcefire seem to be close with Palo right behind.” (>$250M)
 “Our view is that most customers will require an complete integrated solution (i.e., multivendor) leveraging Big Data & SDN to minimize the overall attack footprint.” (>$250M)
 “Though Checkpoint is a renowned name other vendors like Fortinet and Trend Micro are catching up very fast.” (<$50M)
 “We are not seeing significant demand for APT yet.” ($100M-$250M)
 “APT vendors and customers need to settle on a common definition of what APT is before a real market leader can be determined.” (>$250M)
 “[Chose Sourcefire for best APT] Cisco acquisition.” ($50M-$100M)
Commentary on security vendors:
 “I’m seeing nothing with Fortinet. I see them in only one government agency. I don't know how they have a sales team quite frankly.” ($50M-$100M)
 “Blue Coat has won a few large deals with their new Solera acquisition. We see future opportunity there.” ($50M-$100M)
 “Palo Alto is not quite growing as quickly as I would have hoped. We have a decent funnel though. People love the value prop. Their channel is still not fully built out. At the end of
the day, it doesn’t sell itself. Still, we are bullish...it’s an expensive product, sometimes double a firewall. Palo Alto does it the most cleanly and efficiently in one box, but I hear
anecdotally some customers struggle with the ROI because they already have IPS and firewall.” (<$50M)
 “Traction with Fortinet has not improved. Part of it might be that we are a Juniper-centric shop. We are still committed to Fortinet and like their boxes, but they are completely
transactional. They are running 200 mph everywhere trying to pick up $15K-$25K deals everywhere.” (<$50M)

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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Emerging Technologies and Vendors
Private Networking Companies Mentioned Recently by VARs:

A10 Networks

ADARA Networks

Aerohive

AirWatch

Arista Networks

Astute Networks

Barracuda Networks

Blue Cat Networks

Certeon

Damballa

Embrane

Exinda

FireEye

ForeScout Technologies

Glue Networks

Kemp

MobileIron

PLUMgrid

Silver Peak

Vidyo

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

** This is a compilation of companies named in our recent Cisco Reseller Surveys
Images from company websites and www.digitizor.com.

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Recommendation on CSCO Stock
Maintain Outperform Rating (CSCO-$22.57-Outperform)
 Trading at ~11x C14E EPS (~8x ex-cash), we continue to find CSCO’s current valuation attractive given the company’s
strong execution, attractive product portfolio and competitive position. We also believe SDN adoption will develop gradually
and Cisco will be a key player in the market for more programmable solutions.
 We continue to believe that sustained momentum in the marketplace, combined with a better investor appreciation for
Cisco’s role in SDN, could support a low- to mid-teens multiple for CSCO (as seen prior to the 2011 restructuring). We note
that Cisco is still trading at a below-market multiple.
CSCO: 3-Yr P/E Ratio

CSCO: 1-Yr P/E Ratio

16.0x

14.0x

14.0x

13.0x

12.0x

12.0x

10.0x

11.0x

8.0x

10.0x

6.0x

9.0x

4.0x

8.0x

P/E

Med + σ

Med - σ

Source: FactSet; (P/E multiples are b ased on current fiscal year EPS.)

Median

P/E

Med + σ

Med - σ

Median

Source: FactSet; (P/E multiples are b ased on current fiscal year EPS.)

Risks include: macroeconomic slowdown, increased competition, pricing and margin pressure, increasing contribution from lowermargin products (UCS), foreign exchange and tax rate changes, longer-term threat of new architectures, such as SDN, and
acquisition/restructuring risks.
(See recent research reports for more information.)

Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey

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Company

Rating

Price
Target

Price
10/31/13

Performance
YTD
LTM
%
%

Rev

EPS
YoY %

Net Cash

$1.81
3.34
2.55
(1.06)
3.59
1.79

6%
17%
14%
(30%)
(10%)
22%

$4.76
12.47
11.36
0.20
(5.90)
(17.80)

17,466
5,837
5,084
180
13,251
350

$1.93
0.86
4.49
1.00
0.12
0.53
0.67

$2.07
1.23
4.66
0.97
0.31
0.46
0.73

7%
44%
4%
(2%)
170%
(13%)
9%

$6.33
5.97
16.16
(0.01)
5.70
4.99
0.41

$50,610
4,034
1,271
521
437
841
790

$8.03
10.35

$5.08
8.21

(37%)
(21%)

($0.68)
$9.69

2,521
4,309

C12

C13E

C12

C13E

C12

C13E

C12

C13E

YoY %

$51,202
34,884
14,085
401
50,492
3,790

14x
28x
18x
NM
6x
15x

13x
24x
15x
NM
7x
12x

$2.32
4.17
2.98
NM
3.69
1.61

$2.55
4.91
2.83
NM
3.96
2.30

6x
16x
8x
NM
4x
9x

6x
14x
9x
NM
6x
8x

1.9x
6.4x
1.6x
5.3x
0.5x
0.7x

1.8x
5.7x
1.5x
3.1x
0.6x
0.6x

$21,714
4,605
6,297
73
119,239
10,128

$23,187
5,191
6,477
124
110,886
10,820

7%
13%
3%
68%
(7%)
7%

$1.70
2.85
2.23
(1.52)
3.99
1.47

32%
12%
(4%)
(19%)
(24%)
2%
52%

$122,686
9,399
6,249
2,506
3,215
3,331
3,716

12x
22x
18x
15x
NM
37x
12x

11x
15x
17x
15x
NM
43x
11x

$2.01
0.58
5.94
1.30
1.01
1.00
1.07

$2.17
0.43
5.95
1.79
1.33
0.79
0.83

6x
7x
9x
10x
NM
18x
6x

6x
6x
9x
11x
70x
22x
7x

1.9x
1.5x
3.5x
3.0x
8.9x
4.8x
1.6x

1.8x
1.4x
3.3x
2.4x
6.1x
4.2x
1.6x

$47,062
4,365
1,420
840
311
523
2,256

$49,400
4,619
1,511
1,047
453
598
2,189

5%
6%
6%
25%
46%
14%
(3%)

62%
64%

80%
104%

$18,253
16,974

6x
7x

10x
9x

$6.59
9.29

$5.80
8.51

4x
4x

9x
7x

1.1x
0.9x

1.3x
1.0x

$16,332
15,648

$13,999
15,138

(14%)
(3%)

24%
30%
30%
16%

25%
32%
34%
17%

17.3x

16.2x

SP50:

$101.99

$108.73

7%

26.5x

19.9x

RUT:

$41.48

$55.38

34%

$32
95
42
8
25
25

$23.65
80.75
39.14
6.10
25.92
22.05

(7%)
(14%)
17%
(32%)
82%
30%

(3%)
(5%)
45%
NA
87%
NA

Data Networking
Cisco (CSCO)
Juniper (JNPR)
F5 (FFIV)
Riverbed (RVBD)
Palo Alto Networks (PANW)
Fortinet (FTNT)
Brocade (BRCD)

O
N
O
N
O
N
N

$30
22
110
15
60
24
8

$22.57
18.48
79.43
14.95
41.93
19.75
8.06

15%
(6%)
(18%)
(24%)
(22%)
(6%)
51%

Hard Disk Drives
Seagate (STX)
Western Digital (WDC)

N
N

$45
67

$49.20
69.85
$1,761.64
$3,922.04
$1,100.15
$82.28

IYW-US

EV/Rev

C13E

O
N
N
N
N
N

SP50

EV/EBITDA

C12

IT Solutions
EMC Corp (EMC)
VMware (VMW)
NetApp (NTAP)
Violin Memory (VMEM)
Hewlett Packard (HPQ)
CDW Corp (CDW)

Indices
S&P 500
NASDAQ
Russell 2000
DJ US Tech Index Fund

FCF/share

PE
Mkt
Cap

C12

C13E

Note: $ in millions except per share information.
Note: CDW performance based on IPO priced at $17.00 on 6/27/13.
Note: VMEM performance based on IPO priced at $9.00 on 9/27/13. VMEM net cash figure is based on pro forma cash (includes net IPO proceeds).
Source: Public company filings and Robert W. Baird & Co. estimates.

(See recent research reports for more information.)

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Certification
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  • 1. Technology Research November 4, 2013 IT Systems & Networking October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey Jayson Noland, CFA jnoland@rwbaird.com 415.364.3343 Kimberly Evers kevers@rwbaird.com 415.364.3347 Please refer to Appendix - Important Disclosures and Analyst Certification on Page 18 Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 0
  • 2. Profile of Survey Sample  Sample size: 84 survey participants (predominantly within the Enterprise and Commercial verticals)  Revenue profile: ~$10 billion in estimated annual Cisco product sales  Cisco Partner Status: 49% Gold, 21% Premier, 10% Select, 11% Silver, and 8% Other/NA  Cisco sales represent ~33% of the average respondent’s total annual revenue Total Annual Firm Revenue 22 Geographic Distribution 22 100% 90% 17 0% 4% 12% 22% 80% 14 70% 24% APAC (Asia Pacific) 60% 9 CALA (Latin America) 50% 40% 30% <$10 $10-$50 $50-$100 $100 - $250 >$250 77% EMEA (Europe, Middle East, Africa) 61% AMER (North America) 20% 10% $ in millions Source: Robert W. Baird & Co. 0% Unweighted Revenue Weighted * Weighted by Cisco product sales, not total firm revenue Source: Robert W. Baird & Co. Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 1
  • 3. FQ1 Cisco Product Sales “How would you characterize your Cisco product sales during AUGUST - OCTOBER (Cisco's Fiscal Q1)?”  Regarding Cisco’s FQ1, 35% of respondents cited a “Better Than Plan” quarter, 39% noted an “In-Line” quarter, and 26% cited a “Below Plan” quarter.  The net score of 8% declined QoQ as expected, and looks healthy versus historical FQ1 responses in our survey. Sales relative to expectations - Survey History Net Score 40% 30% Sales relative to expectations - Survey FQ1 History 15% 10% 20% 5% 10% 0% 0% -10% -20% -5% Net Score 5-Year Avg -10% -30% -15% -40% -20% -50% 5-Year Avg -25% FQ1'09 FQ1'10 FQ1'11 FQ1'12 FQ1'13 FQ1'14 FQ1'14: 84 responses FQ1'14: 84 responses Source: Robert W. Baird & Co; Note: Net Score is Defined as "Above Plan" responses - "Below Plan" Source: Robert W. Baird & Co; Note: Net Score is Defined as "Above Plan" responses - "Below Plan" Responses Responses Commentary:  “Big deals dominate the performance.” (>$250M)  “Momentum has slowed a bit since Q4.” (>$250M)  “Typical cyclic trend, quieter start to the year after the push to close the previous financial year.” (>$250M)  “We have a renewed focus on Cisco that has accelerated our Unified Communications and Data Center business. We believe Cisco is a growth engine.” (>$250M)  “Hockey stick in October.” ($100M-$250M)  “Strong growth. Customers are moving on projects.” (>$250M)  “Pretty much as expected, soft at the end of Aug, but that is typical seasonality.” (>$250M)  “I used to joke that a few years ago, Cisco was the 800 lb. gorilla asleep in the corner. Well, Cisco woke up. Over the last several quarters, Cisco has been everywhere and very aggressive on pricing. Cisco has also been bundling very successfully.” (<$50M)  “India market still depressed.” (<$50M) Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 2
  • 4. FQ1 Cisco Product Sales by Geo and Size “How would you characterize your Cisco product sales during AUGUST - OCTOBER (Cisco's Fiscal Q1)?”  While the North American net score declined QoQ (in line with seasonality), it is still well above the five-year historical average FQ1 for the region.  The Europe net score also declined QoQ (in line with seasonality), but is now above the five-year historical average FQ1 for the geography.  Large VARs (>$100 million), achieved a net score still well above the FQ1 historical average for the cohort. Based on conversations with respondents, we believe Large VARs continue to take share from smaller, regional VARs. Sales relative to expectations by Geography North America Sales relative to expectations by VAR Size Europe 60% 40% 20% Small VARs (<$100 million revenue) Large VARs (>$100 million revenue) 80% 60% 40% 20% 0% 0% -20% -20% -40% -40% -60% -60% FQ1'14: North America - 51 responses. Europe - 20 responses. Rest of World - 13 responses. Percentage shown is the differential between 'above expectations' and 'above expectations' Source: Robert W. Baird & Co. Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey FQ1'14: North America - 51 responses. Europe - 20 responses. Rest of World - 13 responses. Percentage shown is the differential between 'above expectations' and 'below expectations' Source: Baird July 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 3
  • 5. Cisco FQ2 Outlook “What are your expectations for your Cisco product sales for NOVEMBER - JANUARY (Cisco's Fiscal Q2) relative to normal seasonality?”  Regarding expectations for Cisco’s FQ2 outlook, 42% of respondents expect a “Better Than Seasonal” quarter, 46% expect “Normal Seasonality,” and 12% expect a “Worse Than Seasonal” quarter.  The overall net score for the FQ2 outlook was the highest ever for the January quarter in the five years of this survey. Next-quarter outlook - Survey History Net Score 60% Next-quarter outlook - FQ4 Survey History 30% 25% 40% 20% 20% 15% 0% 10% Net Score 5-Year Average 5% -20% 0% -40% -5% -60% -10% FQ1'09 FQ4'13: 87 responses Source: Robert W. Baird & Co; Note: Net Score is Defined as % of "Better than Seasonal" responses - % of "Worse than Seasonal" Responses FQ1'10 FQ1'11 FQ1'12 FQ1'13 FQ1'14 FQ4'13: 87 responses Source: Robert W. Baird & Co; Note: Net Score is Defined as % of "Better than Seasonal" responses - % of "Worse than Seasonal" Responses Commentary:  “Usually a slower time frame but strong pipeline might make this a good qtr.” (<$50M)  “Large projects will support above-average growth into next quarter.” ($50M-$100M) “This period is typically our largest Cisco quarter. We are looking at somewhere between 30% and 40% growth YoY.” (>$250M)  “Pipeline is up Year over Year.” (>$250M)  “More concerned about macro economics, like the government debt ceiling affecting our business; otherwise normal.” (>$250M)  “Lots of DC projects and wireless is heating up.” ($50M-$100M)  “Slowing UCS pipe.” (>$250M)  “Pipeline for calendar year-end is stronger than normal seasonality.” ($100M-$250M) Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 4
  • 6. Cisco FQ2 Outlook by Geo and VAR Size “What are your expectations for your Cisco product sales for NOVEMBER - JANUARY (Cisco's fiscal Q1) relative to normal seasonality?”  Respondents from North America continue to fare better than Europe. The net score for North America remains well above the fiveyear FQ2 average, while Europe remains slightly below the historical average.  We note our survey underweights emerging markets, which was recently cited as an area of softness for Cisco. Sales outlook by Geography North America Europe 60% 40% 20% 0% -20% -40% -60% FQ1'14 Survey: North America - 51 responses. Europe - 20 responses. Rest of World - 13 responses. Percentage shown is the differential between 'better than normal' and 'worse than normal' Source: Robert W. Baird & Co. Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 5
  • 7. Impact of Recent Restructuring “Has Cisco’s recent restructuring had any impact on your Cisco business?”  Most respondents cited no impact from the recent (4,000 headcount) reduction at Cisco.  We note of those citing an impact, a disproportionate amount are coming from the Small VAR category and the Asia region. Has Cisco's recent restructuring had any impact on your Cisco business? Yes 23% No 77% Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey Based on 83 responses Commentary:  “A few deck chairs need to be backfilled or shared, but nothing important.” (>$250M)  “Too early to tell but I would expect no negative impact.” (>$250M)  “Lost some key people that we have worked with for years.” ($100M-$250M)  “Restructure in conjunction with industry challenges and economic uncertainty.” (>$250M)  “There's been a loss of momentum on the Channels support side. This has stalled some deals.” ($100M-$250M)  “No impact as of yet, but I hear there are still many layoffs to be done.” ($100M-$250M)  “Have not seen much impact yet, although some decision making processes have taken longer than usual and there has been an additional level of oversight.” (>$250M)  “This has had a minor disruption on our coverage, but the focus on minimizing disruption seems high. It will not reflect our results.” (>$250M)  “Things are going OK. The Cisco restructuring is very noticeable, there’s tremendous pressure in the field – a lot of intimidation or hard line attitude coming from Sales management. A lot of people are scratching their head and saying why did they have to lay off 4,000 people. It’s almost like they wanted to create this image to Wall Street that they’re lean and mean.” (>$250M)  “More difficult for you to locate personnel.” (<$50M) Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 6
  • 8. Aggressive Pricing by Cisco “Have you seen any abnormal pricing aggression from Cisco in the quarter?”  Overall, most respondents did not cite aggressive pricing from Cisco in the quarter; this figure continues to improve over the last two quarters (68% cited “No” in FQ3’13, 70% in FQ4’13).  Of those that responded “Yes”, we continued to observe a higher proportion of European respondents, and now also Asian respondents that cited pricing pressure.  Small VARs continue to be more likely than Large VARs to witness aggressive pricing behavior from Cisco. Have you seen any abnormal pricing pressure by Cisco in the quarter? Yes 25% No 75% Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey Based on 81 responses Commentary:  “Too many partners and Cisco still driving close with discount not solutions.” (<$50M)  “Seen lower pricing competition from HP in switching, which is putting pressure on Cisco.” (<$50M)  “HP Networking took a major deal over Cisco recently. HPN came in with a better price, and everything is LPTA (Lowest Price, Technically Acceptable) in the Federal government right now.” ($50M-$100M)  “High pressure with gray market pricing - in the market a lot of discussions with customers about pricing” (<$50M)  “I have found we are competing with refurbished Cisco product.” (<$50M) Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 7
  • 9. Cisco & Competitive Dynamics “Is Cisco currently facing serious competition from any of the following vendors in the switching market? (Multiple answers accepted)”  HP Networking continues to rank as the most serious competitor to Cisco, but qualitative conversations lead us to believe HPN has lost significant momentum.  We view Arista as the strongest data center competitor to Cisco currently – we note Arista doesn’t yet have comparable breadth in channel relationships. Cisco's most significant competitor in the Data Center Switching market? Cisco's most significant competitor in the Campus Switching market? HP Networking HP Networking Juniper Juniper Brocade Brocade Arista No significant competition No significant competition Extreme Huawei Dell/Force10 Dell Force10 Huawei Extreme Arista Other Other 0 10 20 30 40 50 0 Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 40 60 Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey Based on 83 responses; multiple responses accepted 20 Based on 82 responses; multiple responses accepted Commentary:  “HP seems to be the only company with the strength, size, presence and cost structure to impact Cisco.” (>$250M)  “Our Juniper business is flat. We had a great year last year, so flat isn’t necessarily bad. We lost a couple of very, very large deals against Cisco. A lot of the quality issues around SRX and JUNOS are in the past. The CEO at Juniper before Kevin used to say that on one end of the spectrum is Cisco, and on the other is point players. Juniper wanted to be in the middle. They kind of are in the middle now. They aren’t known for anything.” (<$50M)  “Overall, I’d say HP is slowly moving in the right direction; the key words are slowly and right. HP Networking has a very specific place, which is basically Public Sector.” (>$250M)  “At least in India, presence and acceptance of other players are negligible.” (<$50M)  “HP Networking has fallen on its face. I only have two sales reps that act like they want to work with HPN. I don’t even know who my HP Networking channel person is anymore. Their whole value-prop is being cheaper than Cisco… and free maintenance…but what does that mean long-term? It’s a bit of a savings now versus pain later.” (>$250M)  “Juniper’s wireless product is nothing. It’s not like the SRX where it has technical issues, but it’s just not competitive relative to Aruba, Cisco, or Meraki.” (<$50M)  “We are pretty excited about Arista. A Cisco veteran in our area just joined them. He’s a rainmaker. Their architecture makes a lot of sense to me, and they have a great management team.” (<$50M)  Arista is the other one that apparently has a pretty compelling offer. My engineers say Arista’s 10GBASE offering is very compelling.” (>$250M)  “We hear a lot of noise about competitors, but as Juniper and HP have continued to decline, customers seem to be back on board with Cisco solutions.” (>$250M) Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 8
  • 10. Cisco Demand by Product “How would you describe demand trends for the following Cisco products currently?”  We’ve asked a similar question on Cisco products for five quarters. Data Center Switch, UCS, and Core Routing have consistently scored at the top. WAN optimization and Collaboration continue to score at the bottom.  In this quarter, we asked about Core versus Edge Routing and Switching separately; we note the net scores for Edge were significantly lower than Core.  Network Security has edged up in this survey, while ISE has fallen in the rankings. Cisco Product by Demand - FQ1 Strong Weak DC Switch UCS Core Route WLAN Network Security Edge Switch Edge Route Collaboration ISE WAN Optimization -125 Very Strong Healthy OK Muted Very Weak -25 75 175 Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey Based on 83 responses; chart depicts a net score in which 'Very Strong' = *3, 'Solid' = *2, 'OK' = *1, 'Muted' = *-2, and 'Very Weak' = *-3 Commentary: “Riverbed and F5 are taking the WAAS and ACE business...” (>$250M) “Increase attributed to Data Center / UCS initiatives.” ($100M-$250M) “Lots of DC projects and wireless is heating up.” ($50M-$100M) “We’ve definitely seen an uptick in major core Cisco products over the last six months. Customers are looking at Meraki and trying to figure out how much of that makes sense for them. If I were to bet on a product line at Cisco that will explode over the next 18 months, it would be Meraki. I think Cisco understands the opportunity and has a very specific plan.” (>$250M) “UCS is wood behind the iron for sure. Cisco has the right pricing, tactics, and message with this product. It’s a very strong play.“ (>$250M) “Continued growth in DC/UCS and ISE technology.” ($100M-$250M) “Innovation in the Collaboration space is desperately needed. Cisco is totally missing it with no real identifiable strategy on Enterprise Social Applications and Social customer care solutions.” ($100M-$250M) “Slowing UCS pipe.” (>$250M)  “ISE is getting a lot of traction.” ($100M-$250M) Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 9
  • 11. SDN Adoption “When do you expect to see mainstream enterprise adoption of SDN? (Multiple answers accepted)”  Almost 70% of respondents expect SDN to achieve mainstream enterprise adoption within the next two years, which was faster than we would have expected.  We note during conversations with resellers, most indicated a lack of consensus of what a typical SDN deployment would look like. When do you expect SDN to see mainstream enterprise adoption? 6 months 1% 1 year 24% Never 7% 4+ years 10% 3 years 14% 2 years 44% Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey Based on 84 responses Commentary:  “Most are still trying to realize the true business case for SDN” (>$250M)  “I seriously doubt that application vendors will develop software depending on the network vendor.” (<$50M)  “SDN is a difficult theme in the real life.” (<$50M)  “Without unified adoption of a single set of standards and practices by ALL service providers (good luck), SDN will evolved to mean Next Generation Network Management for the enterprise.” (>$250M)  “There is a trend in this direction and interest to learn more, but the path for customers is unclear. Partners are still separating the marketing from the real value/opportunity.” (>$250M)  “Vaporware.” ($50M-$100M)  “Other than VMware, I don't see anyone talking about it.” (>$250M)  “Cisco and VMware have two competing visions. There is no clear winner today.” ($100M-$250M) Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 10
  • 12. Key SDN Features “Which SDN features will customers find most compelling? (Multiple answers accepted)”  “Automated provisioning and configuring” ranked No. 1, followed by “Network management and orchestration,” and “Layer 4-7 services.”  We note at a recent ONUG (Open Networking User Group) event, L4-7 services was most popular by vote. (Please see our Industry Note detailing this event for more details.) Which SDN features will customers find most compelling? Automated provisioning and configuring Network management and orchestration Layer 4-7 services (Security, load balancing etc) Network monitoring Increased scalability (breaking 4K VLAN limit) Traffic shaping Not sure yet Other 0 20 40 60 Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey Based on 84 responses; multiple responses accepted Other responses include: “Application programmability”, “Centralized policy management”, “Vendor Independence” Commentary – Insieme:  “Focus will be on benefits of hardware defined networking versus SDN. No impact of Insieme as yet. Expect customer questions after launch next month.” ($100M-$250M)  “I wonder if EMC has a take on that which could have more of an effect.” (<$50M)  “Seeing it the field now. Insieme is the path forward in the data center. Cisco needs a good migration strategy.” (>$250M)  “Insieme is not GA yet so no field traction but Cisco's approach to Application Centric SDN should position them for a more broad conversation and opportunity than the approach many others are taking.” (>$250M) Commentary – competitive landscape:  “Cisco is the leading vendor in SDN.” (<$50M)  “Juniper’s SDN seems to be the real deal from what we can tell at this point. We have a large bid out now. I feel like they really accelerated things with Contrail, and they seem to be somewhat at the forefront.” (<$50M)  “We feel that [it] is theirs to lose” [re: Cisco] (>$250M)  “Adoption of VMware centric solutions will be tough competition for Cisco.” ($50M-$100M) Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 11
  • 13. WHIPTAIL Acquisition “Do you expect Cisco’s acquisition of WHIPTAIL to impact its relationship with its storage partners within the next year?”  Slightly over 30% of respondents expect no impact to either EMC or NetApp within the next year.  Only 16% and 12% expect a meaningful impact to EMC and NetApp, respectively, in the next year.  Qualitative feedback suggests some skepticism that this is Cisco’s first and last move into storage. WHIPTAIL acquistion to impact Cisco's relationship with EMC (in the next year)? Yes meaningful impact 16% Yes - slight impact 53% WHIPTAIL acquistion to impact Cisco's relationship with NetApp (in the next year)? Yes meaningful impact 12% No impact 31% No impact 32% Yes - slight impact 56% Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey Based on 83 responses Based on 83 responses Commentary:  “We believe that Cisco is not aiming for the storage market. Whiptail's technology will be leverage in upcoming UCS servers as well as in future switching products.” (>$250M)  “This will of course cause some issue with Storage partners.” ($50M-$100M)  “Cisco messaging is that Whiptail will be UCS only not a storage play.” (>$250M)  “Both Cisco and EMC have made public statements to partners on strategic directions and Cisco/EMC partnerships.” ($100M-$250M)  “Cisco says it is not a competitive move, but we will see.” (>$250M)  “All Flash Storage will become a reality soon and thus will move all IT vendors to offer customized application integrated solutions.” ($50M-$100M)  “Anxiously awaiting to hear what products will be available.” ($100M-$250M)  “I think it is just the beginning.” (>$250M)  “I believe this is a strong acquisition by Cisco and a vision into Cisco changing the game in the market.” ($50M-$100M)  “As we understand the intended implementation will only complement SAN providers, not compete on a large scale.” (>$250M) Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 12
  • 14. Virtual ADC Solutions “In the Enterprise segment, have you seen deals go virtual in ADC?”  Roughly 27% of respondents cited virtual ADC deals, including some large VARs. Within the Enterprise segment, have you seen ADC deals go virtual? Within the Enterprise segment, have you see Yes 27% No 73% Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey Based on 77 responses Commentary on Vendors:  “ADC for a while on the virtual front.” (>$250M)  “I believe Riverbed is struggling in Federal. The OPNET integration is not going well and they are seeing a lot of attrition within their Federal sales organization. To save money, they are cutting corners on compensation, which is causing additional attrition in Federal.” ($50M-$100M)  “We had a great year with Riverbed last year, so it’s tough to compare. Our business is solid right now, but still below where we were last year. We are seeing some traction in other product lines, like Granite and Stingray. With Granite, Riverbed has done a good job of providing support to partners for Granite.” (<$50M)  “F5 doing better .” (>$250M)  “Riverbed is overwhelmingly strong. Cisco lost contact to the market leader.” (<$50M)  “I don't see much of either.” (>$250M)  “Seeing a slight uptick in Riverbed interest/opportunities.” ($100M-$250M)  “Riverbed growing stronger. F5 seems to be treading water.” (>$250M)  “Both F5 and Riverbed have made great advances in mindshare over the past 18 months.” (>$250M)  “Riverbed seems to be in tailspin. F5 and Citrix seem to be winning share.” (>$250M)  “F5 is strong.” ($50M-$100M)  “F5 was awarded a multi-million portion of a major networking and security deal within a Federal agency. The F5 portion was for load balancing. We thought A10 would be able to knock F5 off but apparently not.” ($50M-$100M) Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 13
  • 15. APT Security “Within the Advanced Persistent Threat (APT) market, who is seeing the most success? (Multiple responses accepted).”  We continue to see Palo Alto Networks as the most popular APT vendor cited by channel respondents (consistent with our April 2013 survey)  We also hear FireEye has a leading APT solution that is generating significant customer interest – we note FireEye is likely underdistributed Within the APT (Advanced Persistent Threat) market, who is seeing the most success? Palo Alto Networks - WildFire FireEye Check Point - ThreatCloud Emulation Service Fortinet - FortiGuard Cloud-Based Sandboxing Service Sourcefire - FireAMP Trend Micro - Deep Discovery Other 0 10 20 30 Source: Baird October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey Based on 73 responses in aggregate; multiple responses accepted Commentary on APT:  “FireEye and Sourcefire seem to be close with Palo right behind.” (>$250M)  “Our view is that most customers will require an complete integrated solution (i.e., multivendor) leveraging Big Data & SDN to minimize the overall attack footprint.” (>$250M)  “Though Checkpoint is a renowned name other vendors like Fortinet and Trend Micro are catching up very fast.” (<$50M)  “We are not seeing significant demand for APT yet.” ($100M-$250M)  “APT vendors and customers need to settle on a common definition of what APT is before a real market leader can be determined.” (>$250M)  “[Chose Sourcefire for best APT] Cisco acquisition.” ($50M-$100M) Commentary on security vendors:  “I’m seeing nothing with Fortinet. I see them in only one government agency. I don't know how they have a sales team quite frankly.” ($50M-$100M)  “Blue Coat has won a few large deals with their new Solera acquisition. We see future opportunity there.” ($50M-$100M)  “Palo Alto is not quite growing as quickly as I would have hoped. We have a decent funnel though. People love the value prop. Their channel is still not fully built out. At the end of the day, it doesn’t sell itself. Still, we are bullish...it’s an expensive product, sometimes double a firewall. Palo Alto does it the most cleanly and efficiently in one box, but I hear anecdotally some customers struggle with the ROI because they already have IPS and firewall.” (<$50M)  “Traction with Fortinet has not improved. Part of it might be that we are a Juniper-centric shop. We are still committed to Fortinet and like their boxes, but they are completely transactional. They are running 200 mph everywhere trying to pick up $15K-$25K deals everywhere.” (<$50M) Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 14
  • 16. Emerging Technologies and Vendors Private Networking Companies Mentioned Recently by VARs: A10 Networks ADARA Networks Aerohive AirWatch Arista Networks Astute Networks Barracuda Networks Blue Cat Networks Certeon Damballa Embrane Exinda FireEye ForeScout Technologies Glue Networks Kemp MobileIron PLUMgrid Silver Peak Vidyo Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey ** This is a compilation of companies named in our recent Cisco Reseller Surveys Images from company websites and www.digitizor.com. 15
  • 17. Recommendation on CSCO Stock Maintain Outperform Rating (CSCO-$22.57-Outperform)  Trading at ~11x C14E EPS (~8x ex-cash), we continue to find CSCO’s current valuation attractive given the company’s strong execution, attractive product portfolio and competitive position. We also believe SDN adoption will develop gradually and Cisco will be a key player in the market for more programmable solutions.  We continue to believe that sustained momentum in the marketplace, combined with a better investor appreciation for Cisco’s role in SDN, could support a low- to mid-teens multiple for CSCO (as seen prior to the 2011 restructuring). We note that Cisco is still trading at a below-market multiple. CSCO: 3-Yr P/E Ratio CSCO: 1-Yr P/E Ratio 16.0x 14.0x 14.0x 13.0x 12.0x 12.0x 10.0x 11.0x 8.0x 10.0x 6.0x 9.0x 4.0x 8.0x P/E Med + σ Med - σ Source: FactSet; (P/E multiples are b ased on current fiscal year EPS.) Median P/E Med + σ Med - σ Median Source: FactSet; (P/E multiples are b ased on current fiscal year EPS.) Risks include: macroeconomic slowdown, increased competition, pricing and margin pressure, increasing contribution from lowermargin products (UCS), foreign exchange and tax rate changes, longer-term threat of new architectures, such as SDN, and acquisition/restructuring risks. (See recent research reports for more information.) Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 16
  • 18. Company Rating Price Target Price 10/31/13 Performance YTD LTM % % Rev EPS YoY % Net Cash $1.81 3.34 2.55 (1.06) 3.59 1.79 6% 17% 14% (30%) (10%) 22% $4.76 12.47 11.36 0.20 (5.90) (17.80) 17,466 5,837 5,084 180 13,251 350 $1.93 0.86 4.49 1.00 0.12 0.53 0.67 $2.07 1.23 4.66 0.97 0.31 0.46 0.73 7% 44% 4% (2%) 170% (13%) 9% $6.33 5.97 16.16 (0.01) 5.70 4.99 0.41 $50,610 4,034 1,271 521 437 841 790 $8.03 10.35 $5.08 8.21 (37%) (21%) ($0.68) $9.69 2,521 4,309 C12 C13E C12 C13E C12 C13E C12 C13E YoY % $51,202 34,884 14,085 401 50,492 3,790 14x 28x 18x NM 6x 15x 13x 24x 15x NM 7x 12x $2.32 4.17 2.98 NM 3.69 1.61 $2.55 4.91 2.83 NM 3.96 2.30 6x 16x 8x NM 4x 9x 6x 14x 9x NM 6x 8x 1.9x 6.4x 1.6x 5.3x 0.5x 0.7x 1.8x 5.7x 1.5x 3.1x 0.6x 0.6x $21,714 4,605 6,297 73 119,239 10,128 $23,187 5,191 6,477 124 110,886 10,820 7% 13% 3% 68% (7%) 7% $1.70 2.85 2.23 (1.52) 3.99 1.47 32% 12% (4%) (19%) (24%) 2% 52% $122,686 9,399 6,249 2,506 3,215 3,331 3,716 12x 22x 18x 15x NM 37x 12x 11x 15x 17x 15x NM 43x 11x $2.01 0.58 5.94 1.30 1.01 1.00 1.07 $2.17 0.43 5.95 1.79 1.33 0.79 0.83 6x 7x 9x 10x NM 18x 6x 6x 6x 9x 11x 70x 22x 7x 1.9x 1.5x 3.5x 3.0x 8.9x 4.8x 1.6x 1.8x 1.4x 3.3x 2.4x 6.1x 4.2x 1.6x $47,062 4,365 1,420 840 311 523 2,256 $49,400 4,619 1,511 1,047 453 598 2,189 5% 6% 6% 25% 46% 14% (3%) 62% 64% 80% 104% $18,253 16,974 6x 7x 10x 9x $6.59 9.29 $5.80 8.51 4x 4x 9x 7x 1.1x 0.9x 1.3x 1.0x $16,332 15,648 $13,999 15,138 (14%) (3%) 24% 30% 30% 16% 25% 32% 34% 17% 17.3x 16.2x SP50: $101.99 $108.73 7% 26.5x 19.9x RUT: $41.48 $55.38 34% $32 95 42 8 25 25 $23.65 80.75 39.14 6.10 25.92 22.05 (7%) (14%) 17% (32%) 82% 30% (3%) (5%) 45% NA 87% NA Data Networking Cisco (CSCO) Juniper (JNPR) F5 (FFIV) Riverbed (RVBD) Palo Alto Networks (PANW) Fortinet (FTNT) Brocade (BRCD) O N O N O N N $30 22 110 15 60 24 8 $22.57 18.48 79.43 14.95 41.93 19.75 8.06 15% (6%) (18%) (24%) (22%) (6%) 51% Hard Disk Drives Seagate (STX) Western Digital (WDC) N N $45 67 $49.20 69.85 $1,761.64 $3,922.04 $1,100.15 $82.28 IYW-US EV/Rev C13E O N N N N N SP50 EV/EBITDA C12 IT Solutions EMC Corp (EMC) VMware (VMW) NetApp (NTAP) Violin Memory (VMEM) Hewlett Packard (HPQ) CDW Corp (CDW) Indices S&P 500 NASDAQ Russell 2000 DJ US Tech Index Fund FCF/share PE Mkt Cap C12 C13E Note: $ in millions except per share information. Note: CDW performance based on IPO priced at $17.00 on 6/27/13. Note: VMEM performance based on IPO priced at $9.00 on 9/27/13. VMEM net cash figure is based on pro forma cash (includes net IPO proceeds). Source: Public company filings and Robert W. Baird & Co. estimates. (See recent research reports for more information.) Baird – October 2013 Cisco VAR Survey 17 Cash
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