Enviar búsqueda
Cargar
Mn soc of cpa's 11 15- 2012 - revised (1)
•
Descargar como PPTX, PDF
•
1 recomendación
•
671 vistas
M
MikeGreg1945
Seguir
Presentation to the Minnesota Society of CPAs as an example
Leer menos
Leer más
Denunciar
Compartir
Denunciar
Compartir
1 de 33
Descargar ahora
Recomendados
Asa nyc 5 7-2012
Asa nyc 5 7-2012
MikeGreg1945
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
MikeGreg1945
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
MikeGreg1945
InKnowVision June 2012 HNW Technical Webinar 1 - Valuation Planning
InKnowVision June 2012 HNW Technical Webinar 1 - Valuation Planning
InKnowVision
Startup Law - DCU Ryan Academy Propeller
Startup Law - DCU Ryan Academy Propeller
Peppe Santoro
How to Do a Venture Capital Financing
How to Do a Venture Capital Financing
ideatoipo
12 Take-aways from 2012 - Developments in the Western Canadian M&A and Privat...
12 Take-aways from 2012 - Developments in the Western Canadian M&A and Privat...
This account is closed
A moneyball approach to wealth management
A moneyball approach to wealth management
Bank Solutions Group
Recomendados
Asa nyc 5 7-2012
Asa nyc 5 7-2012
MikeGreg1945
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
MikeGreg1945
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
MikeGreg1945
InKnowVision June 2012 HNW Technical Webinar 1 - Valuation Planning
InKnowVision June 2012 HNW Technical Webinar 1 - Valuation Planning
InKnowVision
Startup Law - DCU Ryan Academy Propeller
Startup Law - DCU Ryan Academy Propeller
Peppe Santoro
How to Do a Venture Capital Financing
How to Do a Venture Capital Financing
ideatoipo
12 Take-aways from 2012 - Developments in the Western Canadian M&A and Privat...
12 Take-aways from 2012 - Developments in the Western Canadian M&A and Privat...
This account is closed
A moneyball approach to wealth management
A moneyball approach to wealth management
Bank Solutions Group
Asa, iba, nacva dlom feb 1, 2012
Asa, iba, nacva dlom feb 1, 2012
MikeGreg1945
2 fcgup bv report 4 30-2012
2 fcgup bv report 4 30-2012
MikeGreg1945
Discount for Lack of Marketability - Comphrensive Study
Discount for Lack of Marketability - Comphrensive Study
Alps Venture Partners
Crm minnesota 4 27-2011
Crm minnesota 4 27-2011
MikeGreg1945
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
MikeGreg1945
Discount for Lack of Control and Marketability
Discount for Lack of Control and Marketability
Amer-Street Advisory, Inc.
Epc shreveport la 6 28-2012
Epc shreveport la 6 28-2012
MikeGreg1945
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
MikeGreg1945
Vrt board dlom 1 20-2012
Vrt board dlom 1 20-2012
MikeGreg1945
Nacva december 2, 2011 presenation
Nacva december 2, 2011 presenation
MikeGreg1945
Organizational structure for your business
Organizational structure for your business
Marc Parham
Asa, iba, nacva dlom feb 1, 2012
Asa, iba, nacva dlom feb 1, 2012
MikeGreg1945
McGladrey presentation at May 2012 AICPA CFO conference - FASB/IASB convergen...
McGladrey presentation at May 2012 AICPA CFO conference - FASB/IASB convergen...
Brian Marshall
7 Key Steps Your Data Privacy Program Needs
7 Key Steps Your Data Privacy Program Needs
TrustArc
New Levels of Compliance in 2012
New Levels of Compliance in 2012
Sikich LLP
Business planning for entrepreneurs
Business planning for entrepreneurs
Richard Gabel
McGladrey presentation at June 2012 EEI Public Filers Symposium - Update on J...
McGladrey presentation at June 2012 EEI Public Filers Symposium - Update on J...
Brian Marshall
Business Financing Options Workshop Batesville July
Business Financing Options Workshop Batesville July
Arkansas State University Small Business & Technology Development Center
Business Financing Options Workshop May 22nd
Business Financing Options Workshop May 22nd
Arkansas State University Small Business & Technology Development Center
MasterCard's Jennifer Stalzer presents The Evolution of the Corporate Newsroo...
MasterCard's Jennifer Stalzer presents The Evolution of the Corporate Newsroo...
Percolate
How to conduct client due diligence (CDD) webinar 16.02.2022
How to conduct client due diligence (CDD) webinar 16.02.2022
Jonathon Bray
How to talk to your cfo about share point - spsnh
How to talk to your cfo about share point - spsnh
Mike Gilronan
Más contenido relacionado
Destacado
Asa, iba, nacva dlom feb 1, 2012
Asa, iba, nacva dlom feb 1, 2012
MikeGreg1945
2 fcgup bv report 4 30-2012
2 fcgup bv report 4 30-2012
MikeGreg1945
Discount for Lack of Marketability - Comphrensive Study
Discount for Lack of Marketability - Comphrensive Study
Alps Venture Partners
Crm minnesota 4 27-2011
Crm minnesota 4 27-2011
MikeGreg1945
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
MikeGreg1945
Discount for Lack of Control and Marketability
Discount for Lack of Control and Marketability
Amer-Street Advisory, Inc.
Destacado
(6)
Asa, iba, nacva dlom feb 1, 2012
Asa, iba, nacva dlom feb 1, 2012
2 fcgup bv report 4 30-2012
2 fcgup bv report 4 30-2012
Discount for Lack of Marketability - Comphrensive Study
Discount for Lack of Marketability - Comphrensive Study
Crm minnesota 4 27-2011
Crm minnesota 4 27-2011
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
Discount for Lack of Control and Marketability
Discount for Lack of Control and Marketability
Similar a Mn soc of cpa's 11 15- 2012 - revised (1)
Epc shreveport la 6 28-2012
Epc shreveport la 6 28-2012
MikeGreg1945
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
MikeGreg1945
Vrt board dlom 1 20-2012
Vrt board dlom 1 20-2012
MikeGreg1945
Nacva december 2, 2011 presenation
Nacva december 2, 2011 presenation
MikeGreg1945
Organizational structure for your business
Organizational structure for your business
Marc Parham
Asa, iba, nacva dlom feb 1, 2012
Asa, iba, nacva dlom feb 1, 2012
MikeGreg1945
McGladrey presentation at May 2012 AICPA CFO conference - FASB/IASB convergen...
McGladrey presentation at May 2012 AICPA CFO conference - FASB/IASB convergen...
Brian Marshall
7 Key Steps Your Data Privacy Program Needs
7 Key Steps Your Data Privacy Program Needs
TrustArc
New Levels of Compliance in 2012
New Levels of Compliance in 2012
Sikich LLP
Business planning for entrepreneurs
Business planning for entrepreneurs
Richard Gabel
McGladrey presentation at June 2012 EEI Public Filers Symposium - Update on J...
McGladrey presentation at June 2012 EEI Public Filers Symposium - Update on J...
Brian Marshall
Business Financing Options Workshop Batesville July
Business Financing Options Workshop Batesville July
Arkansas State University Small Business & Technology Development Center
Business Financing Options Workshop May 22nd
Business Financing Options Workshop May 22nd
Arkansas State University Small Business & Technology Development Center
MasterCard's Jennifer Stalzer presents The Evolution of the Corporate Newsroo...
MasterCard's Jennifer Stalzer presents The Evolution of the Corporate Newsroo...
Percolate
How to conduct client due diligence (CDD) webinar 16.02.2022
How to conduct client due diligence (CDD) webinar 16.02.2022
Jonathon Bray
How to talk to your cfo about share point - spsnh
How to talk to your cfo about share point - spsnh
Mike Gilronan
2012 M&A Deal Terms Study
2012 M&A Deal Terms Study
MMMTechLaw
Making the Leap from Business Analyst to Business Architect
Making the Leap from Business Analyst to Business Architect
Accelare
5 Mistakes Made in 360 Reviews
5 Mistakes Made in 360 Reviews
TalentGuard
Executive Briefing: Communication Effectiveness
Executive Briefing: Communication Effectiveness
Cynthia Clay
Similar a Mn soc of cpa's 11 15- 2012 - revised (1)
(20)
Epc shreveport la 6 28-2012
Epc shreveport la 6 28-2012
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
Fair value forum 8 am 1 20-2012
Vrt board dlom 1 20-2012
Vrt board dlom 1 20-2012
Nacva december 2, 2011 presenation
Nacva december 2, 2011 presenation
Organizational structure for your business
Organizational structure for your business
Asa, iba, nacva dlom feb 1, 2012
Asa, iba, nacva dlom feb 1, 2012
McGladrey presentation at May 2012 AICPA CFO conference - FASB/IASB convergen...
McGladrey presentation at May 2012 AICPA CFO conference - FASB/IASB convergen...
7 Key Steps Your Data Privacy Program Needs
7 Key Steps Your Data Privacy Program Needs
New Levels of Compliance in 2012
New Levels of Compliance in 2012
Business planning for entrepreneurs
Business planning for entrepreneurs
McGladrey presentation at June 2012 EEI Public Filers Symposium - Update on J...
McGladrey presentation at June 2012 EEI Public Filers Symposium - Update on J...
Business Financing Options Workshop Batesville July
Business Financing Options Workshop Batesville July
Business Financing Options Workshop May 22nd
Business Financing Options Workshop May 22nd
MasterCard's Jennifer Stalzer presents The Evolution of the Corporate Newsroo...
MasterCard's Jennifer Stalzer presents The Evolution of the Corporate Newsroo...
How to conduct client due diligence (CDD) webinar 16.02.2022
How to conduct client due diligence (CDD) webinar 16.02.2022
How to talk to your cfo about share point - spsnh
How to talk to your cfo about share point - spsnh
2012 M&A Deal Terms Study
2012 M&A Deal Terms Study
Making the Leap from Business Analyst to Business Architect
Making the Leap from Business Analyst to Business Architect
5 Mistakes Made in 360 Reviews
5 Mistakes Made in 360 Reviews
Executive Briefing: Communication Effectiveness
Executive Briefing: Communication Effectiveness
Mn soc of cpa's 11 15- 2012 - revised (1)
1.
For MN Society
of CPAs November 15, 2012 By Michael Gregory Michael Gregory Consulting LLC mg@mikegreg.com
2.
Opened Michael Gregory Consulting LLC September 2011 28 years at IRS as engineer valuator, manager, operations team lead, controller, acting assistant director, territory manager Championed IRS DLOM Job Aid, 6695A Penalty on Appraisers, Sub S, Reasonable Compensation, 409A, Family Limited Partnerships and Lead Initiatives on Other Areas Such As R&E Credit, Transfer Pricing, Cost Segregation and Others ASA, AVA, MBA and a Qualified Neutral with the Minnesota Supreme Court © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 2
3.
The opinions presented
here are those of Michael Gregory. Michael Gregory does not represent the IRS. Any opinions presented in this seminar are those of the author and do not represent an official position of his current or previous employers. This material is offered for educational purposes only. The author and his employer expressly disclaim any liability, including incidental or consequential damages, arising from the use of this material or any errors or omissions that may be contained in it. © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 3
4.
Understanding The IRS and Issue Resolution Estate and Gift Tax Classification Valuation Issues ◦ Family Limited Partnerships ◦ Discounts for Lack of Marketability ◦ Reasonable Compensation ◦ Common Errors Investigated at the IRS ◦ Review with an Opinion of Value at the IRS Take Away Key Points In Short Time Together - Key Practical Pointers © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 4
5.
Eleven Divisions – Need to Understand Stove Pipes and Culture Since 2000 Compliance – Four Divisions Your Primary Interest as Accountants ◦ Large Business and International (LB&I) ◦ Small Business and Self Employed (SBSE) ◦ Tax Exempt and Governmental Entities (TEGE) Appeals Counsel – IRS and DOJ Tax Litigation Division © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 5
6.
Good Source of Information for ◦ Businesses ◦ Starting a Business ◦ Operating a Business ◦ Closing a Business ◦ Employer ID Numbers ◦ Small Business Events ◦ Industry Professions “Audit Techniques Guides (ATGs)” ◦ Over 50 topics ◦ Aerospace to Wine © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 6
7.
Six Industries (Updated 10-1-2012) CTM, FS, HMP, NRC, RFTH and GHW Case Manager and Team Coordinator Control Specialists Are Consultants and Do NOT Control Case ◦ Engineering IRM 4.4.48 [4.4.48.4 (BV Guidelines)] in NRC ◦ Employment Tax to SBSE ◦ Computer Audit Specialists in RFTH ◦ Financial Products in FS ◦ Economists and International Examiners in “I” of “LB&I” Counsel © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 7
8.
Internal Consultants to All Divisions Four Territory Managers 34 Managers 320 Technical Employees (approx. 180 Credentialed Valuators) Manager Locally in Bloomington – Christine Harwood Valuators Locally – Real Property and BV © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 8
9.
Examination ◦ General Program: Team Manager and Revenue Agent Control ◦ Estate and Gift (E&G) IRM 4.4.425 Classification Process Joint E&G and Valuators E&G Manager and E&G Attorney Control Collection Counsel © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 9
10.
Team Manager and Revenue Agent Control Business Valuator Issues ◦ ESOPs ◦ Related for Profit Entities ◦ Gifts in Kind ◦ Services Provided ◦ Reasonable Compensation Initiatives © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 10
11.
Case Closes Out of Examination Unagreed and Goes to the Internal IRS Appeals Division Goal to Settle Cases Due to Hazards of Litigation Targets Independent Ex Parte Rules © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 11
12.
IRS Office of Chief Counsel ◦ Operations ◦ Technical All Non Litigation Work (Legislative, Regulation, Interpretation) Corporate International Technical Advice IRS Division Counsel IRS Special Trial Counsel (DOJ Tax Litigation Division for Refund Cases) © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 12
13.
Regarding Examination Divisions, Appeals and Council ◦ Who Owns the Case in Exam? ◦ Who Manages the Day to Day Operations on the Case in Exam? ◦ What is the Role of the Valuator? ◦ Who can Resolve a Case on Examination? ◦ Who can Settle a Case in Appeals? If you have a Frustration on a Case on a Valuation Issue Who Do You Contact? Let’s Discuss Some Key Issue Areas © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 13
14.
◦
Family Limited Partnerships in E&G ◦ Discounts for Lack of Marketability ◦ Reasonable Compensation ◦ Common Errors Investigated at the IRS ◦ Review with an Opinion of Value at the IRS © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 14
15.
Understand the Process ◦ Know What It Is You Are Valuing ◦ Obtain the Necessary Documents ◦ Review and Analyze Agreements ◦ Review and Analyze the Financial Data ◦ Determine the Appropriate Approach(s) ◦ Apply the Appropriate Approach(s) ◦ Determine the Appropriate Discounts and Premiums of What You Are Valuing © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 15
16.
Business Purpose Contributions Management Prerogatives Distance Limited Partners from Assets of FLP Distributions Term of Partnership © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 16
17.
Approval Rights of Limited Partners Required for Major Decisions or Limited Partners Excluded from all Decisions Right of First Refusal Transferability of Rights Approved by All Limitations on Withdrawal Dissolution Provisions © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 17
18.
Asset Based Approach Income Approach ◦ Discount Rate ◦ Cash Flows Market Approach – Generally Similar to Asset Based Approach in This Instance Valuation Adjustments ◦ Marketable Securities Closed End Funds from Barron’s, Wall Street Journal, Morningstar, Closedendfunds.com Choose Appropriate Funds (Bonds, Domestic, etc.) ◦ Real Estate NAV REITS and Closed End Funds Match Funds with Land, Commercial Type, etc. © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 18
19.
Generally Not Adjusted Could Be Based on Fact Pattern ◦ Example Restriction on Sale to Charity ◦ Example Income Only For Example Reports Go To Partnership Profiles: Real Estate, Marketable Securities, Mixed Assets, Non-income Producing Real Estate Will Discuss DLOM Separately © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 19
20.
DLOM Job Aid for IRS Professionals ◦ http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-utl/dlom.pdf ◦ Read It ◦ Use Best Practices [33 Factors, IDR, Review, Report Critiques, Report Language] ◦ 18 Approaches Critiqued with Background, Summary, Strengths, Weaknesses, Importan t Parameters, Prevalence in the Profession, Court Comments ◦ Make Sure to Note Caveats – Don’t Skip In Addition ◦ Espen Robak – Pluris DLOM ◦ John Finnerty – Asian Options Method © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 20
21.
Over Compensation Privately Held Companies ◦ Compensation Compared with Firm Performance (RMA, Bizminer, Integra, Fintel, Dun and Bradstreet) ◦ Types of Compensation - & Areas ◦ Data Sources (Watson Wyatt, ERI, RMA, BVR, RIA, Troy, Dunn and Bradstreet, Trade Associations and Others) ◦ Independent Analysis ◦ Exempt Organizations (GuideStar and ERI) Subchapter S Under Compensation ◦ Avoid Employment and Other Taxes ◦ Growing Initiative at IRS © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 21
22.
Math Logic Standards SSVS – Know and Follow Documentation – Explain Why Written to Audience ◦ Client ◦ Lay Person ◦ IRS Exam ◦ New Report For Litigation Tailored to Audience ◦ US Tax Court – IRS Attorneys (90% of Fed Tax Cases) ◦ Refund Cases – US District Court and US Court of Claims – Note Judge, Jury, Depositions and DOJ Attorneys © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 22
23.
Start with the Report and Valuer Certified Valuator Credential and Meet Standards of Society Engagement Letter and Limiting Conditions Overview of Report Clear and Concise with Logical, Mathematically Correct Tables and Appendices Discounts, Discount Rates, Adjustments to Income Statement and Balance Sheet © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 23
24.
Broad Error Categories ◦ Definition of Value - Standards ◦ Communication – Written for Audience Clear and Concise ◦ General – Val Date, Logical, Control or Minority Valuation, Comprehensive, Reasonableness of Variables, and Reconciliation ◦ Income Approach – Adjustments, Discount Rate, Cash Flow ◦ Market Approach – Guideline Co’s vs. Transactional Data Bases, Adjustments to the Subject Company ◦ Asset Based Approach – Expertise ◦ Reconciliation of Approaches and Method ◦ Discounts and Premiums © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 24
25.
Write a Report for the Court and Judge Read Court Cases by Judge on Topic What Did Judge Halpern Have to Say? ◦ Report is Testimony Have to Work with What I Have ◦ Should NOT Have Used WACC in This Instance Not Going Public and Do Not Meet Assumptions for WACC Use Equity Approach ◦ Do Not Use CAPM or Modified CAPM for the Discount Rate Same Concerns As Above Use Build Up Method © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 25
26.
◦ Gross Still
Governs – “We Will NOT Impose an Unjustified Fictitious Corporate Tax Rate” – IRS is 6 for 6 in Court ◦ Don’t Assume Judge Understands Valuation Concepts ◦ Understand Discovery Rules and Process and Work with Attorney ◦ Have a Third Party Review Your Report ◦ Provide Court with Evidence: If It Is Not In Evidence It Does Not Exist - Valuation Text Book for Example © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 26
27.
© 2012 Michael
Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 27
28.
Know Who to Work With at the IRS Raise Issues in Management as Appropriate Issue Resolution – Mediation – Litigation IRS Job Aide on DLOM’s Worth Reading Reasonable Compensation 409A Courts More Analytically Oriented ◦ Avoid Common Errors ◦ Use Facts of Case and Data to Drive Decisions Appraiser Penalties 6695A – Standards Think Strategically About What You Want to Do © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 28
29.
Know Who Your Working with at the IRS Understand the Role of Participants Seek to Understand Interests –Listen and Answer What Was Asked Do Not Be Afraid to Ask Questions Consider Options ◦ Ask for a Specialist ◦ Ask to Elevate in Management as a Neutral Party Given Ownership of the Issue by the RA or ETA © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 29
30.
© 2012 Michael
Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 30
31.
IRS Official and Unofficial Rules of Engagement IRS Organization My History and Best Practices Issue Resolution and Mediation at the IRS Classification in General and Estate and Gift in Particular Potential Penalties on Appraisers Reasonable Compensation in Corporations Discounts for Lack of Marketability Most Common Errors in Valuations Strategic Growth Areas of Business Valuation Appraisers Other Engineering Issues and Valuation Related Issues Strategic Thinking Overall Commentary and “Do’s and Don’ts” © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 31
32.
Michael Gregory Consulting, LLC mg@mikegreg.com www.mikegreg.com 651-633-5311 1945 Sharondale Ave. Roseville, MN 55113 Contact me with any questions or concerns I Will Stick Around Outside for Questions and to Autograph Book if You Are Interested © 2012 Michael Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 32
33.
© 2012 Michael
Gregory Consulting LLC www.mikegreg.com November 15, 2012 33
Descargar ahora