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                  Communicating About Evidence in Medicine




                                 Chuck Alston
                                 Senior Vice President/Director of Public Affairs
                                 MSL Washington



© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                                     SLIDE 1
The Public Context for Communicating
About Evidence: How Bad Can It Get?
Consider what’s been said about federal oversight of
comparative effectiveness research

         • a national health care rationing board

         • an agenda that will destroy the doctor-patient
           relationship and set us on a course for government-
           administered health care

         • handing personal medical decisions over to the federal
           government

         • lays the groundwork for a permanent government
           rationing board prescribing care in place of doctors and
           patients


© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                       SLIDE 2
Problem: They Don’t Hear What You (Think
You) Are Saying




                  Communicating about evidence is fraught with peril.




© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                         SLIDE 3
Evidence One of Many Confusing Concepts
           What You Say                                          What They Hear
           Medical home                                          Nursing home, home health, end of life
           Medical decision support                              End-of-life decisions
           Guidelines or treatment guidelines                    Restrictive, rigid, limited, driven by cost
           Integrated health care delivery system                Bureaucratic, industry language, meaning
                                                                 unclear
           Integrated care                                       Bureaucratic, industry language, meaning
                                                                 unclear
           Multispecialty medical group                          Bureaucratic, industry language, meaning
                                                                 unclear, trying to do too much, low quality,
                                                                 limited choice of specialists to choose from
           Best practices                                        Bureaucratic, meaning unclear, insincere,
                                                                 cookie-cutter care, not tailored to the individual
           Evidence-based medicine                               Impersonal, one size fits all
           Accountable                                           Something will go wrong, minimal care, buzz
                                                                 word


Source: Ross M, Igus T and Gomez S. “From Our Lips to Whose Ears? Consumer Reaction to Our Current Health Care Dialect.” The Permanente
Journal.13(1):8-16. 2009.

© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                                                                                   SLIDE 4
Evidence, Schmevidence


• Evidence, standards, measures – so what, who cares

• Consumers’ reactions:
         • Threatens doctor-patient relationship
         • Inflexible, cookie-cutter medicine
         • May keep me from getting all the care they need (remember, more is
           better, most expensive is best)


• Who decides, anyway?

• Besides, my doctor said it, so it must be right



Sources:
Carmen K, et al. “Evidence That Consumers are Skeptical about Evidence-based Health Care.” Health Affairs.29(7):1400-1406. July 2010.
Ross M, Igus T and Gomez S. “From Our Lips to Whose Ears? Consumer Reaction to Our Current Health Care Dialect.” The Permanente
     Journal.13(1):8–16. 2009.
Talking About Health Care Payment Reform with U.S. Consumers. Princeton, N.J.: Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, 2011. (No authors
     given.)

© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                                                                                         SLIDE 5
The Way Medical Decisions Are Made


                                                                       “The dominant role of
                                                                       physicians in determining
                                                                       patient care has been a fact of
                                                                       medical care delivery for many
                                                                       decades. Therefore, many
                                                                       consumers may find it difficult
                                                                       to move into a more active and
                                                                       accountable role in which they
                                                                       are expected to understand
                                                                       and weigh multiple pieces of
                                                                       complex and potentially
                                                                       conflicting evidence.”



Source:Carmen K, et al. “Evidence That Consumers are Skeptical about Evidence-based Health Care.” Health Affairs.29(7):1400-1406. July 2010


© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                                                                                      SLIDE 6
What They Don’t Know Might …




         Most patients considering elective
         surgeries do not know how long it
         usually takes to recover, what the
         benefits of the surgery are, or how
         many people experience
         complications.


Source: Zikmund-Fisher BJ, Russell LB and Pignone MP. Medical Decision Making. Boston: Foundation for Informed Medical Decision Making,
2010.
© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                                                                                     SLIDE 7
SO WHAT, WHO CARES, WHAT’S IN IT
                             FOR ME?
                         Patient-centered Messaging




© 2011 MSLGROUP                                       SLIDE 8
The Problem with My Health Care Is…

• Uneasy relationship with
  my doctor

• Doctor is pressed,
  encounter feels rushed,
  questions go unanswered

• Lack of clear, trustworthy
  information

• Too many mistakes, too much miscommunication
  that can make things go wrong


Source: Talking About Health Care Payment Reform with U.S. Consumers. Princeton, N.J.: Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, 2011. (No
authors given.)

© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                                                                                    SLIDE 9
Obstacles to Overcome with Patients

• More $$$ = better care

• More care = better care

• Agency theory
• For me, sky’s the limit




© 2011 MSLGROUP                       SLIDE 10
“It’s All About Me”

• Focus on the patient
         • Any message about delivery should focus on patient benefits




© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                          SLIDE 11
Locate within Context of Better Care

We are working to:

         • Improve your health
           care

         • Find better ways to
           care for you

         • Make sure you get the
           best care possible




Source: Research conducted by MSL Washington for the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.

© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                                        SLIDE 12
Where Do We Want to Go?

Our goal for your care
is:
         • Strong relationship with
           your doctor

         • Time with your doctor

         • Addressing all your concerns

         • Involving you in decisions about your care

         • Making sure you understand your follow-up care

         • After-hours help, alternatives to the emergency room



© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                   SLIDE 13
How Do We Get There?

How we are improving
care:
         • Communication,
           coordination among
           doctors

         • All the preventive care
           you need

         • Make sure you get right
           medications and tests

         • Make appointments easily, fill out forms once, do not have to
           repeat yourself over and over

         • High-quality care, tailored just for you, based on best medical
           evidence and your doctor’s recommendation


© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                            SLIDE 14
RELOCATING EVIDENCE

                  ^Critical Element of Decision Making




© 2011 MSLGROUP                                          SLIDE 15
Proposed Messaging Approach


                  Making the Best Decision for You




           • Locate the concepts of evidence and
             evidenced-based medicine under a larger
             umbrella concept– as one component of
             making the best decision for an individual
             patient

           • This makes evidence essential to, but by
             itself insufficient for, treatment decisions

© 2011 MSLGROUP                                             SLIDE 16
Approach Enjoys (Surprising?) Support

        • “ Science and research should be used to
          enhance and improve healthcare quality, not
          limit a patient’s choices or options. We should
          encourage doctors and healthcare professionals
          to share best practices and learn from each
          other’s experiences, but we need to recognize
          that every patient is different and every illness
          needs an individualized, personalized approach.
          Statistical analysis can help, but healthcare
          requires a human approach, timely decisions,
          and the right of patients to try an innovative
          approach if everything else has failed.”

                                                                  Frank I. Luntz

           Dr. Frank I. Luntz – The Language of Healthcare 2009
© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                                    SLIDE 17
Evidence As Part of Shared Decision Making




• Scientific information from research

• The training and experience of health
  professionals

• Patient’s goals, concerns, preferences


© 2011 MSLGROUP                            SLIDE 18
Three Elements of Decisions




         • Each element is complementary and important
           to the right health decision for each individual
           patient

         • Patients and providers should communicate
           about all three




© 2011 MSLGROUP                                           SLIDE 19
Umbrella Message Concept


        “The right care starts
             with the right decision.”




© 2011 MSLGROUP                          SLIDE 20
Core Message Concepts


            The right care starts with the right decision

• The right decision results from doctors and patients working together to
  consider all of the relevant information. This includes the best medical
  information about what works and information about the patient’s goals
  and concerns.

• Patients who partner with their doctors in care decisions have the best
  chance of reaching the decision that is right for them.

• The right care depends on patients taking an active role in decision making
  by providing health information essential for the right decision and
  providers communicating the best available medical information about what
  works.

• To achieve the right care, patients and clinicians need to be supported with
  the information, tools and environment for making the right decisions.

© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                           SLIDE 21
Tested Description of Medical Evidence

To find out what types of care
work best, doctors and others
do scientific studies of patient
care. The results from this
medical research are called
“medical evidence.”

Each patient is different, but
medical research can show
whether some types of health care tend to get better results
than others for patients with certain conditions. When there is
medical evidence from research that shows which care works
best, then using that evidence is part of “good quality” care.




Source: National Business Group on Health at http://communicationtoolkit.airprojects.org/communication-materials/basics-of-health-care-
quality/
© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                                                                                    SLIDE 22
Final Takeaways


When talking about evidence, guidelines,
recommended care

• Emphasize that national medical
  experts/organizations created the guidelines
• They are based on scientific evidence
• They not binding on anyone




© 2011 MSLGROUP                                  SLIDE 23
To Learn More

• Bechtel C and Ness D. “If You Build It, Will They Come? Designing Truly
  Patient-Centered Health Care.” Health Affairs. 29(5): 914-920. May 2010.

• Carmen K, et al. “Evidence That Consumers are Skeptical about Evidence-
  based Health Care.” Health Affairs. 29(7): 1400-1406. July 2010.

• Gerber A, et al. “A National Survey Reveals Public Skepticism About Research-
  Based Treatment Guidelines.” Health Affairs. 29(10): 1882-1884. October
  2010.

• Ross M, Igus T and Gomez S. “From Our Lips to Whose Ears? Consumer
  Reaction to Our Current Health Care Dialect.” The Permanente
  Journal.13(1): 8–16. 2009.

• “Talking About Health Care Payment Reform with U.S. Consumers." Princeton,
  N.J.: Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, 2011. (No authors given.)

• Zikmund-Fisher BJ, Russell LB and Pignone MP. “Medical Decision Making.”
  Boston: Foundation for Informed Medical Decision Making, 2010.



© 2011 MSLGROUP                                                              SLIDE 24

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Communicating About Evidence in Medicine Effectively

  • 1. OFF THE KNOWN MAP Communicating About Evidence in Medicine Chuck Alston Senior Vice President/Director of Public Affairs MSL Washington © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 1
  • 2. The Public Context for Communicating About Evidence: How Bad Can It Get? Consider what’s been said about federal oversight of comparative effectiveness research • a national health care rationing board • an agenda that will destroy the doctor-patient relationship and set us on a course for government- administered health care • handing personal medical decisions over to the federal government • lays the groundwork for a permanent government rationing board prescribing care in place of doctors and patients © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 2
  • 3. Problem: They Don’t Hear What You (Think You) Are Saying Communicating about evidence is fraught with peril. © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 3
  • 4. Evidence One of Many Confusing Concepts What You Say What They Hear Medical home Nursing home, home health, end of life Medical decision support End-of-life decisions Guidelines or treatment guidelines Restrictive, rigid, limited, driven by cost Integrated health care delivery system Bureaucratic, industry language, meaning unclear Integrated care Bureaucratic, industry language, meaning unclear Multispecialty medical group Bureaucratic, industry language, meaning unclear, trying to do too much, low quality, limited choice of specialists to choose from Best practices Bureaucratic, meaning unclear, insincere, cookie-cutter care, not tailored to the individual Evidence-based medicine Impersonal, one size fits all Accountable Something will go wrong, minimal care, buzz word Source: Ross M, Igus T and Gomez S. “From Our Lips to Whose Ears? Consumer Reaction to Our Current Health Care Dialect.” The Permanente Journal.13(1):8-16. 2009. © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 4
  • 5. Evidence, Schmevidence • Evidence, standards, measures – so what, who cares • Consumers’ reactions: • Threatens doctor-patient relationship • Inflexible, cookie-cutter medicine • May keep me from getting all the care they need (remember, more is better, most expensive is best) • Who decides, anyway? • Besides, my doctor said it, so it must be right Sources: Carmen K, et al. “Evidence That Consumers are Skeptical about Evidence-based Health Care.” Health Affairs.29(7):1400-1406. July 2010. Ross M, Igus T and Gomez S. “From Our Lips to Whose Ears? Consumer Reaction to Our Current Health Care Dialect.” The Permanente Journal.13(1):8–16. 2009. Talking About Health Care Payment Reform with U.S. Consumers. Princeton, N.J.: Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, 2011. (No authors given.) © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 5
  • 6. The Way Medical Decisions Are Made “The dominant role of physicians in determining patient care has been a fact of medical care delivery for many decades. Therefore, many consumers may find it difficult to move into a more active and accountable role in which they are expected to understand and weigh multiple pieces of complex and potentially conflicting evidence.” Source:Carmen K, et al. “Evidence That Consumers are Skeptical about Evidence-based Health Care.” Health Affairs.29(7):1400-1406. July 2010 © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 6
  • 7. What They Don’t Know Might … Most patients considering elective surgeries do not know how long it usually takes to recover, what the benefits of the surgery are, or how many people experience complications. Source: Zikmund-Fisher BJ, Russell LB and Pignone MP. Medical Decision Making. Boston: Foundation for Informed Medical Decision Making, 2010. © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 7
  • 8. SO WHAT, WHO CARES, WHAT’S IN IT FOR ME? Patient-centered Messaging © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 8
  • 9. The Problem with My Health Care Is… • Uneasy relationship with my doctor • Doctor is pressed, encounter feels rushed, questions go unanswered • Lack of clear, trustworthy information • Too many mistakes, too much miscommunication that can make things go wrong Source: Talking About Health Care Payment Reform with U.S. Consumers. Princeton, N.J.: Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, 2011. (No authors given.) © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 9
  • 10. Obstacles to Overcome with Patients • More $$$ = better care • More care = better care • Agency theory • For me, sky’s the limit © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 10
  • 11. “It’s All About Me” • Focus on the patient • Any message about delivery should focus on patient benefits © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 11
  • 12. Locate within Context of Better Care We are working to: • Improve your health care • Find better ways to care for you • Make sure you get the best care possible Source: Research conducted by MSL Washington for the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 12
  • 13. Where Do We Want to Go? Our goal for your care is: • Strong relationship with your doctor • Time with your doctor • Addressing all your concerns • Involving you in decisions about your care • Making sure you understand your follow-up care • After-hours help, alternatives to the emergency room © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 13
  • 14. How Do We Get There? How we are improving care: • Communication, coordination among doctors • All the preventive care you need • Make sure you get right medications and tests • Make appointments easily, fill out forms once, do not have to repeat yourself over and over • High-quality care, tailored just for you, based on best medical evidence and your doctor’s recommendation © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 14
  • 15. RELOCATING EVIDENCE ^Critical Element of Decision Making © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 15
  • 16. Proposed Messaging Approach Making the Best Decision for You • Locate the concepts of evidence and evidenced-based medicine under a larger umbrella concept– as one component of making the best decision for an individual patient • This makes evidence essential to, but by itself insufficient for, treatment decisions © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 16
  • 17. Approach Enjoys (Surprising?) Support • “ Science and research should be used to enhance and improve healthcare quality, not limit a patient’s choices or options. We should encourage doctors and healthcare professionals to share best practices and learn from each other’s experiences, but we need to recognize that every patient is different and every illness needs an individualized, personalized approach. Statistical analysis can help, but healthcare requires a human approach, timely decisions, and the right of patients to try an innovative approach if everything else has failed.” Frank I. Luntz Dr. Frank I. Luntz – The Language of Healthcare 2009 © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 17
  • 18. Evidence As Part of Shared Decision Making • Scientific information from research • The training and experience of health professionals • Patient’s goals, concerns, preferences © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 18
  • 19. Three Elements of Decisions • Each element is complementary and important to the right health decision for each individual patient • Patients and providers should communicate about all three © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 19
  • 20. Umbrella Message Concept “The right care starts with the right decision.” © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 20
  • 21. Core Message Concepts The right care starts with the right decision • The right decision results from doctors and patients working together to consider all of the relevant information. This includes the best medical information about what works and information about the patient’s goals and concerns. • Patients who partner with their doctors in care decisions have the best chance of reaching the decision that is right for them. • The right care depends on patients taking an active role in decision making by providing health information essential for the right decision and providers communicating the best available medical information about what works. • To achieve the right care, patients and clinicians need to be supported with the information, tools and environment for making the right decisions. © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 21
  • 22. Tested Description of Medical Evidence To find out what types of care work best, doctors and others do scientific studies of patient care. The results from this medical research are called “medical evidence.” Each patient is different, but medical research can show whether some types of health care tend to get better results than others for patients with certain conditions. When there is medical evidence from research that shows which care works best, then using that evidence is part of “good quality” care. Source: National Business Group on Health at http://communicationtoolkit.airprojects.org/communication-materials/basics-of-health-care- quality/ © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 22
  • 23. Final Takeaways When talking about evidence, guidelines, recommended care • Emphasize that national medical experts/organizations created the guidelines • They are based on scientific evidence • They not binding on anyone © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 23
  • 24. To Learn More • Bechtel C and Ness D. “If You Build It, Will They Come? Designing Truly Patient-Centered Health Care.” Health Affairs. 29(5): 914-920. May 2010. • Carmen K, et al. “Evidence That Consumers are Skeptical about Evidence- based Health Care.” Health Affairs. 29(7): 1400-1406. July 2010. • Gerber A, et al. “A National Survey Reveals Public Skepticism About Research- Based Treatment Guidelines.” Health Affairs. 29(10): 1882-1884. October 2010. • Ross M, Igus T and Gomez S. “From Our Lips to Whose Ears? Consumer Reaction to Our Current Health Care Dialect.” The Permanente Journal.13(1): 8–16. 2009. • “Talking About Health Care Payment Reform with U.S. Consumers." Princeton, N.J.: Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, 2011. (No authors given.) • Zikmund-Fisher BJ, Russell LB and Pignone MP. “Medical Decision Making.” Boston: Foundation for Informed Medical Decision Making, 2010. © 2011 MSLGROUP SLIDE 24

Notas del editor

  1. This is a map of the world before Columbus sailed the ocean blue.Like Columbus, we are venturing off the known mapADVANCEAs I hope to show, that’s where much of health care communications is right now1/6 of economyRestructuring – not fast enough for payers, too fast forsmeproviders, bewildering to patients – more than models threatened, holds potential personal threatPeople don’t’ want to think about health care way payers are, providers are being forced to, and how some wish consumers would
  2. To paraphrase Geena Davis to Jeff Goldblum in The FlyBe careful, be very very careful
  3. Let me pause here a second and let you soak some of this inOn the left, some of those terms on the previous slideOn the right, what people think of when they hear those terms
  4. Few consumers understand terms “medical evidence” or recommended care, quality guidelines etcWhen asked about quality measures, consumers think:- Measures intrude on the doctor-patient relationship and don’t allow for personalized care- Leads to “one-size-fits-all” care, restrictive, inflexible, bureaucratic- Represent minimum standard of careProtect doctors from failing to provide better treatment than what is considered necessary.Evidence-based medicine – patients don’t think that care is based on anything besides what’s proven to work – kind of think it is all science or docs wouldn’t do it Especially concerned about tailoring being the 0.1 percentor having co-morbiditities
  5. Consumers don’t like to be called consumers in health carePassive – doctors knows bestMD – might diving
  6. Decisions Study from U of Mich -- FIMDM
  7. Problems people identified in research about delivery and payment reform
  8. Beliefs and realities we must overcome as communicators
  9. Offer “solutions” to problems they see – what does it mean for meExample of electronic records
  10. Make evidence “one” piece of the puzzle – not the be all and end all