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                           Fashion
                             How early stage
                           fashion moves from
                               B2B to B2C.




#LMFF | @andreasklinger
Andreas Klinger


  CWTFO of LOOKK


  @andreasklinger
  #LMFF




Slides:

http://www.slideshare.net/andreasklinger
My background is Tech/Business.


Internal company rule:
“Don’t ask me for fashion (style)
direction”
I am one of the co-founders
of a fashion internet startup
called LOOKK.com
LOOKK offers social tools for
emerging fashion designers to
reach their audience


1) lookbooks (builds social capital)
2) popup stores (monetizes social capital)
3) pre-order stores (coming next)
INVESTORS

   Carmen Busquets
    Dave McClure
    Eden Ventures
    Sherry Coutu


         TEAM

     Tamas Locher
    Andreas Klinger
    Gilbert Wedam
    Rafael Jimenez
    Marco Innocenti

   15 people fulltime


     LOOKK.com

Launched September 2011

    Several hundreds
designers using our tools.

 70.000 users signed up.
“LOOKK
  [...] fundamentally reimagines
fashion retail in the context of the
 open social web, harnessing the
      voice of the end consumer
  to quickly understand market
demand and drive more effective
          business decisions.”

                      02 Nov 2011
MISSON
  Bring better fashion
    to the market by
leveraging the power of
      the Internet
Because…

 The next breakthrough
 in fashion won’t happen
     on fashion week.


   It will
HAPPEN ONLINE
When I say fashion I mean…




                             FASHION
                   FASHION
                                AS
                      AS
                     ART
                             BUSINESS
The Speed of the Internet has
changed fashion.
Fashion as an Industry is in a
similar situation as Music one
decade ago.



Internet offering perfect transparency
and distribution.




Music’s product was all of a
sudden too expensive.
Fashion’s product is all of a
sudden too slow




The market found alternatives in MP3
& FastFashion
Result:




We are working in an
oversaturated market that wants
permanent rapid change.


We are overfed.
Why is Fashion
 so obsessed
  with B2B?
   Eg. Fashion Shows
“My customer doesn’t want to
wear the same jacket she’s seen
photographed over and over [...]
for six months.”

Tom Ford - Vogue 2/11
He is right. Trend garments are blogged,
liked, printed and pinned until
no-one can see them anymore.
They are overhyped and when they
reach the shelf they are boring and old.




  Plus: “Topshop sold it 4 months ago.”

                                           Photo: One of our 7 shows in last year in Germany
Tom Ford is right. But who’s to blame.
We are throwing the strongest
marketing tool fashion has (the shows)
at fast media to create as much as desire
as possible.




  And then under-service that desire.

                                            Photo: One of our 7 shows in last year in Germany
“Burberry tweeting images before they
went on the runway was basically a first
big middle finger to the industry”

Geoff Watts (EDITD) at our panel event #FashionBytes 2/2012
The industry changes their game…
#livestream #celebrities #preorders #press #realtime
People are starting to sell at show date…




Pre-Orders: Burberry
Popup: TopShop sold Tshirts(!) at #LFW12
Fashion Shows today are B2C.




Shows are part of the entertainment
industry (IMG).
Sponsors like Mercedes don’t pay to get
the attention of buyers.
Only because of historic legacy we align
shows to B2B cycles.
But why do emerging designers still try
to play the old game?
But why do emerging designers still try
to play the old game?




“To raise the interest of buyers”
But why do emerging designers still try
to play the old game?




“To raise the interest of buyers” - No.
But why do emerging designers still try
to play the old game?




“I show to get press and branding.”
“I show to get press…”




There are hundreds/thousands of shows in a few
weeks. There is so much noise, so little signal.

Several of our designers moved to off-cycle shows.




                                                     Example: Mark&Julia
                                                     Blogger & Friends Show created more
                                                     press than most of local fashion week’s
                                                     designers together.
“… and branding.”




Good Online Lookbooks are more valueable than shows.
Old saying: ”In the Internet nobody knows you are a dog”

                                                           Example: Ksenia Schnaider
                                                           Online Lookbook and Video Show.
                                                           Our buyers (and customers) love it.
Sales at shows?




Limited production for the showdate.


Why not even:
PopUp Store at show venue to sell low-priced generics.
(T-Shirts like in the music industry)




                                                         Example: J.W.Anderson & oki-ni collab
                                                         Prefinanced by BFC #LFW10

                                                         Sold limited pieces online at show date.
“Fashion Shows are so last century
[…to tell your brand…] make a Film”

Diane Pernet (ASVOFF) at our panel event #FashionBytes 2/2012




                                                                Example: Roark showing a promotion
                                                                film on their website.
Why are young
  designers
 so obsessed
  with B2B?
  Eg. Fashion Trade
Trade fairs
“The second B in B2B stands for
‘don’t bother me’.”



We were at two emerging fairs this year in
#PFW were designers were about to pack up
due to the lack of buyers. And (even) we didn’t
go to all fairs.
“This is my first (commercial) collection…”
(another not named designer, Holland 2/2012)




“Nice collection. See you next season!”
(every buyer)




Tradefairs cost 2-6k GBP (excluding PR).
Even if your statefund is paying it. This is an investment
that does not pay off anymore.
Fashion gets to fast for risk.
It’s not the buyers job to make a
designer successful anymore.



Buyers push risk down to designers.
Designers need to handle that risk by
themselves. Be very cash efficient, cautious
and entrepreneural.
If you start
a label you are not
a designer you are
 an entrepreneur.
   You are running a startup.
Designers are entrepeneurs.



As any startup founders, designers are likely
to underestimate everything apart of one
thing: themselves.




And they do same mistakes as any entrepreneur (including me).
Who is your customer?



“I don’t know. I never met any…”

(not named designer, London 2/2012)




Btw I heard this from many other (non fashion) startups.
Are designers
  different than
startups in other
   industries?
     TL;DR: No.
“Any other startup” in “any other industry”




                                      All startups need to know, understand
Fashion gets to fast for risk.        and reach their customers
Tough times for buyers.               & have a demanded product
                                      before they scale.



Risk pushed down to designers.
Designers break their business with
pre-mature scaling.
“Any other startup” in “any other industry”




                                      All entrepreneurs write useless business plans
Fashion gets to fast for risk.        speaking of customers they don’t know and
                                      sales they cannot project.
Tough times for buyers.



                                      They do not test their make-or-break
                                      assumption in their business.
Risk pushed down to designers.
Designers break their business with
pre-mature scaling.


                                      They focus on building a brand or product but
                                      not build product according to their market nor
                                      build the market at all.
“Any other startup” in “any other industry”




Fashion gets to fast for risk.
Tough times for buyers.                                 Product / Market Fit

                                                                  B2B starts here.


                                      Discover     Validate          Grow            Scale




Risk pushed down to designers.
                                        In the early phases (Discovery, Validation):
Designers break their business with
pre-mature scaling.                     #1 Job: Discover a market-demanded product.
                                        #1 Problem: Don’t know their customer.
                                        #1 Approach: Following patterns of companies
                                        in by far further phases.
                                        #1 Death Reason: Premature scaling.
                                        That’s the same in all industries.
“Any other startup” in “any other industry”




Fashion gets to fast for risk.
Tough times for buyers.


                                      Discover     Validate       Grow               Scale




Risk pushed down to designers.
                                        Problem: In your first phase sales are an lagging
Designers break their business with     indicator for success.
pre-mature scaling.
                                        You need a product that will sell and your
                                        revenue comes in very late (esp in fashion).
                                        You need customers you can reach.
                                        You need feedback to iterate the product
                                        Feedback > Sales.
                                        Feedback > Press.
“Any other startup” in “any other industry”




                                                       BUILD


Fashion gets to fast for risk.
Tough times for buyers.                             Product
                                                    Improvement


                                       LEARN                        MEASURE



Risk pushed down to designers.
Designers break their business with
pre-mature scaling.
                                      - Keep costs per learning as low as possible.

                                      - Avoid economical waste.

                                      - Reduce bound capital until you know in what to invest.

                                      - Improve the product.

                                      - Learn to understand your customer’s needs.
“Any other startup” in “any other industry”




                                                       BUILD


Fashion gets to fast for risk.
Tough times for buyers.                             Product
                                                    Improvement


                                       LEARN                         MEASURE



Risk pushed down to designers.
Designers break their business with
pre-mature scaling.

                                      Goal:

                                      - Learn (iterate the loop) as often & quickly as possible.

                                      - Based on customer interaction and feedback.
BUILD




         Product
         Improvement


LEARN                     MEASURE




  For that you would…
  Not need Seasons.
  Not need Collections.
  Not need Buyers.
  Not need Mentors or Sponsors.


  You would need customer/        Example: Our Legacy releasing single
                                  products gaining as much blog attention
  audience giving feedback.       as full collections.
“Any other startup” in “any other industry”




                                      The problem with feedback:
                                      - You must not bias your customer.
Fashion gets to fast for risk.        	    - They always try to be nice to you.
                                      - You cannot ask your customer what they “would” want.
Tough times for buyers.               	    - They can’t imagine products. That’s your job.
                                      - You must not sell but validate your core assumption.
                                      	


                                      - Find out if they actually have the desire
Risk pushed down to designers.        	    - Purchase frequency, spending, wardrobe
Designers break their business with   composition
pre-mature scaling.                   - Ask how they solve their “problem” currently.
                                      	   - Which brands, Perception of other brands.
                                      => Focus on real interaction with actual content.
                                      	   - Interaction with real garments offline & online.
Evaluate interaction on real products.




Based on the customer feedback above.
Which style would you focus on next?




                                         Example: Shwood’s online giveaway.
                                         Crazy amount of online attention and
                                         also customer insights.
Go offline and online to get feedback
to improve products and reduce risk.
- Differ between qualitative and
quantiative feedback.


Build channels
- Online Lookbooks
- Tumblr
- Facebook
- Newsletter
Focus on retentive channels.
(Newsletter > PR agency)


Train your channels to give feedback.




               Example: Daviddavid.co.uk
               Posting test products in tumblr + shop
Always have a way to sell online.




If you don’t have the ressources
put everything to “sold out” and ask
for waiting/notification list signup.
The value of having your own online
sales channels is not the sales.
It’s the customers contacts for getting
more feedback.




Sidenote: pre-orders to endconsumers
work if the delivery is below 6 weeks.
So why not go for B2C pre-orders?




                Preview Pre-Order Shop LOOKK.
The Internet…
Unique problem for fashion but also
unique opportunity for new labels.




  This generation of designers uses the
  Internet to go B2C in earliest phases.
Because…

 The next breakthrough
 in fashion won’t happen
      at fashion week.


   It will
HAPPEN ONLINE
Thanks
   for
listening.
              slides:

 www.slideshare.net/andreasklinger




 #LMFF | @andreasklinger

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  • 1. A NerdED View On Fashion How early stage fashion moves from B2B to B2C. #LMFF | @andreasklinger
  • 2. Andreas Klinger CWTFO of LOOKK @andreasklinger #LMFF Slides: http://www.slideshare.net/andreasklinger
  • 3. My background is Tech/Business. Internal company rule: “Don’t ask me for fashion (style) direction”
  • 4. I am one of the co-founders of a fashion internet startup called LOOKK.com
  • 5. LOOKK offers social tools for emerging fashion designers to reach their audience 1) lookbooks (builds social capital) 2) popup stores (monetizes social capital) 3) pre-order stores (coming next)
  • 6. INVESTORS Carmen Busquets Dave McClure Eden Ventures Sherry Coutu TEAM Tamas Locher Andreas Klinger Gilbert Wedam Rafael Jimenez Marco Innocenti 15 people fulltime LOOKK.com Launched September 2011 Several hundreds designers using our tools. 70.000 users signed up.
  • 7. “LOOKK [...] fundamentally reimagines fashion retail in the context of the open social web, harnessing the voice of the end consumer to quickly understand market demand and drive more effective business decisions.” 02 Nov 2011
  • 8. MISSON Bring better fashion to the market by leveraging the power of the Internet
  • 9. Because… The next breakthrough in fashion won’t happen on fashion week. It will HAPPEN ONLINE
  • 10. When I say fashion I mean… FASHION FASHION AS AS ART BUSINESS
  • 11. The Speed of the Internet has changed fashion.
  • 12. Fashion as an Industry is in a similar situation as Music one decade ago. Internet offering perfect transparency and distribution. Music’s product was all of a sudden too expensive. Fashion’s product is all of a sudden too slow The market found alternatives in MP3 & FastFashion
  • 13. Result: We are working in an oversaturated market that wants permanent rapid change. We are overfed.
  • 14. Why is Fashion so obsessed with B2B? Eg. Fashion Shows
  • 15. “My customer doesn’t want to wear the same jacket she’s seen photographed over and over [...] for six months.” Tom Ford - Vogue 2/11
  • 16. He is right. Trend garments are blogged, liked, printed and pinned until no-one can see them anymore. They are overhyped and when they reach the shelf they are boring and old. Plus: “Topshop sold it 4 months ago.” Photo: One of our 7 shows in last year in Germany
  • 17. Tom Ford is right. But who’s to blame. We are throwing the strongest marketing tool fashion has (the shows) at fast media to create as much as desire as possible. And then under-service that desire. Photo: One of our 7 shows in last year in Germany
  • 18. “Burberry tweeting images before they went on the runway was basically a first big middle finger to the industry” Geoff Watts (EDITD) at our panel event #FashionBytes 2/2012
  • 19. The industry changes their game… #livestream #celebrities #preorders #press #realtime
  • 20. People are starting to sell at show date… Pre-Orders: Burberry Popup: TopShop sold Tshirts(!) at #LFW12
  • 21. Fashion Shows today are B2C. Shows are part of the entertainment industry (IMG). Sponsors like Mercedes don’t pay to get the attention of buyers. Only because of historic legacy we align shows to B2B cycles.
  • 22. But why do emerging designers still try to play the old game?
  • 23. But why do emerging designers still try to play the old game? “To raise the interest of buyers”
  • 24. But why do emerging designers still try to play the old game? “To raise the interest of buyers” - No.
  • 25. But why do emerging designers still try to play the old game? “I show to get press and branding.”
  • 26. “I show to get press…” There are hundreds/thousands of shows in a few weeks. There is so much noise, so little signal. Several of our designers moved to off-cycle shows. Example: Mark&Julia Blogger & Friends Show created more press than most of local fashion week’s designers together.
  • 27. “… and branding.” Good Online Lookbooks are more valueable than shows. Old saying: ”In the Internet nobody knows you are a dog” Example: Ksenia Schnaider Online Lookbook and Video Show. Our buyers (and customers) love it.
  • 28. Sales at shows? Limited production for the showdate. Why not even: PopUp Store at show venue to sell low-priced generics. (T-Shirts like in the music industry) Example: J.W.Anderson & oki-ni collab Prefinanced by BFC #LFW10 Sold limited pieces online at show date.
  • 29. “Fashion Shows are so last century […to tell your brand…] make a Film” Diane Pernet (ASVOFF) at our panel event #FashionBytes 2/2012 Example: Roark showing a promotion film on their website.
  • 30. Why are young designers so obsessed with B2B? Eg. Fashion Trade
  • 31. Trade fairs “The second B in B2B stands for ‘don’t bother me’.” We were at two emerging fairs this year in #PFW were designers were about to pack up due to the lack of buyers. And (even) we didn’t go to all fairs.
  • 32. “This is my first (commercial) collection…” (another not named designer, Holland 2/2012) “Nice collection. See you next season!” (every buyer) Tradefairs cost 2-6k GBP (excluding PR). Even if your statefund is paying it. This is an investment that does not pay off anymore.
  • 33. Fashion gets to fast for risk. It’s not the buyers job to make a designer successful anymore. Buyers push risk down to designers. Designers need to handle that risk by themselves. Be very cash efficient, cautious and entrepreneural.
  • 34. If you start a label you are not a designer you are an entrepreneur. You are running a startup.
  • 35. Designers are entrepeneurs. As any startup founders, designers are likely to underestimate everything apart of one thing: themselves. And they do same mistakes as any entrepreneur (including me).
  • 36. Who is your customer? “I don’t know. I never met any…” (not named designer, London 2/2012) Btw I heard this from many other (non fashion) startups.
  • 37. Are designers different than startups in other industries? TL;DR: No.
  • 38. “Any other startup” in “any other industry” All startups need to know, understand Fashion gets to fast for risk. and reach their customers Tough times for buyers. & have a demanded product before they scale. Risk pushed down to designers. Designers break their business with pre-mature scaling.
  • 39. “Any other startup” in “any other industry” All entrepreneurs write useless business plans Fashion gets to fast for risk. speaking of customers they don’t know and sales they cannot project. Tough times for buyers. They do not test their make-or-break assumption in their business. Risk pushed down to designers. Designers break their business with pre-mature scaling. They focus on building a brand or product but not build product according to their market nor build the market at all.
  • 40. “Any other startup” in “any other industry” Fashion gets to fast for risk. Tough times for buyers. Product / Market Fit B2B starts here. Discover Validate Grow Scale Risk pushed down to designers. In the early phases (Discovery, Validation): Designers break their business with pre-mature scaling. #1 Job: Discover a market-demanded product. #1 Problem: Don’t know their customer. #1 Approach: Following patterns of companies in by far further phases. #1 Death Reason: Premature scaling. That’s the same in all industries.
  • 41. “Any other startup” in “any other industry” Fashion gets to fast for risk. Tough times for buyers. Discover Validate Grow Scale Risk pushed down to designers. Problem: In your first phase sales are an lagging Designers break their business with indicator for success. pre-mature scaling. You need a product that will sell and your revenue comes in very late (esp in fashion). You need customers you can reach. You need feedback to iterate the product Feedback > Sales. Feedback > Press.
  • 42. “Any other startup” in “any other industry” BUILD Fashion gets to fast for risk. Tough times for buyers. Product Improvement LEARN MEASURE Risk pushed down to designers. Designers break their business with pre-mature scaling. - Keep costs per learning as low as possible. - Avoid economical waste. - Reduce bound capital until you know in what to invest. - Improve the product. - Learn to understand your customer’s needs.
  • 43. “Any other startup” in “any other industry” BUILD Fashion gets to fast for risk. Tough times for buyers. Product Improvement LEARN MEASURE Risk pushed down to designers. Designers break their business with pre-mature scaling. Goal: - Learn (iterate the loop) as often & quickly as possible. - Based on customer interaction and feedback.
  • 44. BUILD Product Improvement LEARN MEASURE For that you would… Not need Seasons. Not need Collections. Not need Buyers. Not need Mentors or Sponsors. You would need customer/ Example: Our Legacy releasing single products gaining as much blog attention audience giving feedback. as full collections.
  • 45. “Any other startup” in “any other industry” The problem with feedback: - You must not bias your customer. Fashion gets to fast for risk. - They always try to be nice to you. - You cannot ask your customer what they “would” want. Tough times for buyers. - They can’t imagine products. That’s your job. - You must not sell but validate your core assumption. - Find out if they actually have the desire Risk pushed down to designers. - Purchase frequency, spending, wardrobe Designers break their business with composition pre-mature scaling. - Ask how they solve their “problem” currently. - Which brands, Perception of other brands. => Focus on real interaction with actual content. - Interaction with real garments offline & online.
  • 46. Evaluate interaction on real products. Based on the customer feedback above. Which style would you focus on next? Example: Shwood’s online giveaway. Crazy amount of online attention and also customer insights.
  • 47. Go offline and online to get feedback to improve products and reduce risk. - Differ between qualitative and quantiative feedback. Build channels - Online Lookbooks - Tumblr - Facebook - Newsletter Focus on retentive channels. (Newsletter > PR agency) Train your channels to give feedback. Example: Daviddavid.co.uk Posting test products in tumblr + shop
  • 48. Always have a way to sell online. If you don’t have the ressources put everything to “sold out” and ask for waiting/notification list signup. The value of having your own online sales channels is not the sales. It’s the customers contacts for getting more feedback. Sidenote: pre-orders to endconsumers work if the delivery is below 6 weeks. So why not go for B2C pre-orders? Preview Pre-Order Shop LOOKK.
  • 49. The Internet… Unique problem for fashion but also unique opportunity for new labels. This generation of designers uses the Internet to go B2C in earliest phases.
  • 50. Because… The next breakthrough in fashion won’t happen at fashion week. It will HAPPEN ONLINE
  • 51. Thanks for listening. slides: www.slideshare.net/andreasklinger #LMFF | @andreasklinger