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1- On 12 July 1947, n c11 war: Y-1 d:o #39 tl;z=rt, newsnener Office of 
{he Idr ho Lsilv SIT!-==-#39 ;1oni, l iˇho h~ of pnper , r.-al nsterviewi nc rcelga trod ho wwelhle 
knew of Ioise, Tdnluo, and as to the credibility of 
any .bFli_#3 m9;o!v»ie  l1_#39;1t The Ourpose 0! this i nterview I55 an 
attev--at to verify Str92t1#3 n9o;dr:e0l ntyS0n 26 June1947, 
to vrricms notional news services to the ef#39;| theactt. he, 
had s9 et1 objects fl}rin_g i n the nir above the ascede Hountain Range of W -.e11in; 1 s##o3 o39b9;je;hc wtoctesn sr.eubseq rueefenrtrl tyeo ads flying 4 
saucers or flying disks and will here-inaf5er be referred to as such 
i n this report. $+.sted thˇt he had I-:no1-in rm- quite 
n period of ti--we, hm/in{#3 h9a;d r #39;1ntin w#3ith9;n#39;: on various 
occnsinrs, due to the fact that both he and 
were orıvste Fliers and frequently got together to talk shop- stetnd 
that as fer rr. he was r-on:-horne adnyt1inr_ said could be - . 
tr#39;.1 #3#93;9¢ s;.*en~rrioyusly nnd that 11#39;! scizuall believed that Hr. 
Arnold hvd seem the rforerertloned l lring dlsks. stated that 
after .-@;~.=r+.¢d Eevini seen the flying: dfsks, that the editor 
of -.3 pr-_*92 M2dr Hs5#39;=r P.e-idn, the assignment of taking the 
nirjslr-w oelon,,ir1{; tr the n;rz -::s;-:1; aw: 93-h:=u$tinf_ P11 efforts to prove 
or disjrove th probrbilitf of flying disks hevinr been seen i n the 
!:o1t92w. a--r:e»ar1. I. The results of 1.11s rssi,_n.e: to#3 9a;:ntd what 
he sn»s¢quen s#m39 ;s1 pu#t3 f9o;r.lt}h. #139 a; sworn statement signedt 
nttr 0..- tro! this report as #39;lxh5ib.it 
#39; .#39;- ..;ı -.[.,1T*::s#=39;f; i s 0 e#03?9;n 
uornic . all -fZTfO.!#39;!§ heˇ1i sr #39;lEve.rr#39;-. 
-mf: l ogged P300 hours of 11§.# t3in9r;inIi n_ various types of airplanes uv to P Ii ncl ruhd i-enug1o; vtiini!e- ri-Yn2rcgrF t#.3 h9a;mr otf trhir ae w1;sai yres taoirg6s,ned the z#39;E*1 U#S3A9!;;i-0. a}t:hnd st-tinned on rinian Isl-.nc1, i n the Pacific. It #39;  
t1== = =rs-an-ll 0-i aetuslly sew 
w!;r+. he stntes that he sn? i n t#39 n;rtt1n~r:-hed 1¬nc~rt- It i s also the Opinion 
of tiw i ntervieweri ll!- tWould hove *1-.v w:here to l ose thangain 
em 92.# 3#9 h3;-m9;-.u.##3 to399;-;l be very str0T._1j convirlce-#3 t9h;n9t2 he actually saw something 
hr2f#39; 1or #39;-ou rld.:92r#3 s9;9#2319; rHm#3.l9|i n;i.videzwt mm! open himself for the ridicule 
timt #39;0u nIdcr*.or|pˇnj.# s3u9c;h P report.
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s# =E3o; -9 . i, 1;n : I , 7: e-4 3 :# .-13.i-i- .9.-4.;. ,- . V7:# . -3#,~_#-9-3~_;9.#-3 -_;V 3 #99 .:# 13I!; _3; 9-.- ;9; .5 .;- 1, _---i5tY.- %Y :f l#-39; - . j#é,39#3;9.; _ .-#.~3 #939;;,_#3 :*9- 9_:;_ #-2;,3,_9511_;;e*; ;* x,0-  3##_Q-3_ 39. ;!-#9.#n3-3-;9 ;9:h9;-s#2. ; ,13_.I..-9_.I,;-1l:7_,I, _#. ..3, . t9 #{;3 _.9.-;__-#_..,..4~ - _~__a-r o_f -.-k-_hi--. 1eV-_;--.2¢ s-#-3 9 p.1;»a--#1 , 3:_;9- 1,--; |- -..-.r ~-.--3_: -4#_3_9-;,.- _- ~,.r- _ __ _ . - . __- -#  .##3-339-99; ; ;_ _e 1-#ıgr-3q.L9,ˇpb ; v Li- -v,#e3_ 9;0#3 9,;1@__-@_.I_.n _-r . - - - . .-.- -.~ - - 
.as you believere asonable. o uyrno tuil see a flying din. T ~*1-3-i-7,f_;#39;Idaho, into northwestern laontanbsr iefly, to Spokane, iashingtona, nd -#39;27;--3; 92 a-I ~ , |er it -_._ ~I,_#39;-__7_,..- --.  #39; #39; #39 -; #39  ;# 39; J.-----f-,-~-5.--a t 5 .. -*5  ,-,- ##3399;; .-- ¢ 5 ,S#3ta9t;e moef nt# 39;- o, ::-.#39;_:4f_.:--_3§;-.:;:_:J:;.:;;;;#39; e ,- #39;re- #39;.._ a.t-aI #39; -.~.  -1-I #39; ..Al-3-#39;92---#-.3-9; cl. -- r, at BoiseI,d aho, Jul1y2 , 9d#13.~9.;-;.. #39;..-.-#T39#;.3 ;9=;;-:§~I.;-;.-_#:i3¢9;#.3;.#9i=3;~ ¢9_ ;* -#-3§9#-1;3~.9-¢.;;.-.-_+=.*- #3 9 ,; # 3#93#;- I93 .;9;# 3-9;# - 3 9-;. - I1=5#39;=-;.#39;-#39;--.#39;?:#39;*V -#39; .5_._ -- .#319#*; 3 . :9; .:##*3- Y3 -99.-;;_ 0 - .- # --3-# 93.-9;.; -. -. 4 1 .,. - r.~.e, _.,_ .#¢,3_-9e; - #z »*3.-119 #;l:3,1; 9_-1;.#.!.3- ,*9 --;_ .- -.~4_ .;.; -.-,- I #f 39;- . . a. .a- --_. ##33 99-a;;- 6 ~-9=2.a,. --1s .o-#- 43_fi-9 ;-|g_-vr-l_e.92~#/- 1.--a. --- --* --.*_ -_#39; 1.--.-.1--?--, or ,x-.-:=,-,=;~»,*- -;-;~-.. 
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1 - .3 -.~- 7 -A; ~#39;v -1--#39;-=2?-;#39;e-:-=:#:2;-¢_,:=:-I of -# .39#;93n9 ; t heu m day the of July,_1 8Ktestnosspre:941 1,r eceived epne irns ,I dainasch_oo;r yp,__ r;o~¥r§a #39;_ etrat#e3s9m;9n2 Pr#in3t9in;g compaanny ,a ssignm wewhnatis c h in substances-é.-I_;;11=,,_,.1;-,#39;,,, #3 _9 ;;. . ,_._f..#3-9 -; ,.-_n .cw: -  =_-tr: 1-,----:-:5-=1-:-3:-?i:;#39;.*¢=*.._, ,92. _. 
1-I o. ._eee and photogr aaflpyhin g disc. Condutcht is petrolf or sol ong a tii é-if-i.#39;.T In eeoordenoe thoe se instructions,I toot the Statesnena#ir3p9la;ns e, i,~7_.;.-_#39;;-,#39; awnitdh qes passenger, flee a saenvde none-half nhisosuiro n -1-1oon tho seventhd ev o July, l9i#39T;hl.i s saissiown as withourte sult. I-t#39;:=-L-#39;:-#end territory betwcon anda round Ett. Rainier and Sit. Adams,u her , #391;-__;, 
first reported seeing objectsh enceforth describe asdsa ucers or discs. -:# 39 ; _; 
92 -On the eightdha y oJr uly, ion, 1tool: an at-so f then oun Fightfe_r #39;§2f* squadron, Idallehtoio ncl Guarodi, ihich 1 an amembear,n d flewto nortiiern 
l . to Boiseb y treoyf FallsF alls, Tashingtaonnd, Pendle0to|-ne,g on_._ Unis 
search also no negative. #39; a_ ~n A .~ #39;-.#39;_;_On then inth dayo f July, 1947, I continued thes earch, ags-uins ing a 1;; £{_-;_ 1-_--. 
national guarAdl -6, thist ime centerin=gg #39; eofvfoeri-ts #39;them 0o:-uynhteaein s 
 rest and southwest of Boise, a portion of the llountain Bone desert on a track _,,f#39; 
southeast of the ıountain lions army sir base, thence into the Saartooth noun- ,;,., 
teins, and heck in the generadl irection of Ioiec on aline carrying; now ell 17.-_ 
to the north of the 5hafer hutte forest service lookout station, into the .0_  - 
Tsorseshos Beanrde a, and thence hecki n ssouthwesterly direction to I. point _#39;,_#between Boise and the village of iieridisn, rest of Boise a fer Iilese ,o,.»-a--..~:#39;.._;.-.#39; Duringt his march,w hich lasteda pproximately twaon d one-half ;..;_-_,..;...-.#39;.#hours, I lee undear nd arounradp idly formincgu mulus clouodvse r that #39;0-_ _;_#area knowna s the Canes Prairie, east of Boise. fhe clouds weren ear the :5 -#39;»-#.- 
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yillage of ?airfield in that valley, and F-airfield is 76 exilesa irline ;,;f._,_#39_;~; ._ 
- distanoe east of Boise. it that time I saw nothing in the vicinity of .--,--_ V __ 
~these clouds. - #39 1;  o#~3:9I.;..#3#93;9 ;*.,._#39;:|..-.; At the tine I reachedt he point between ioieea nd EaridianI, one -#39;--:~:.--f;flying at an altitude of 14,000 feet means ea level, Ihioh would he amean--#I:3 19;-;n 
aovf erage 11,000 feeta bove thee arth in this ares, not consideringe rrors fr--#39;-_#i nthe altimeter induced either bbyarometric changes sinces q takeoff, 0r,_;-_ -.1#; 39;- 
#39t;h eb yte e:-aerstuarts t hat altitude. Y-o Q3#39;, 
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_#39a;pj,pe#a3r9e;d_ t_ihne # le3f9t ;h and portioonf mfieyld of vision a onbject nh_i_ch_§s _ 
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d back the plexiglass covering to avoid uni; If, 
soeo Jo douf ration eight millimeter motion picture film. Duringéiie 
the imc the camera was at eye level, I could not sec the object be-r§- 
coaf use noifn uteneas scope introduced by the optical vice findcrggie 
with which the camera, an f.l.9 Eastman, was eouipped.#39;*~;ié5£~2ıZ??1§* 
Taking the camera eeay and once again centering up gaze on th_ 
oI bject, observed it to roll so that its edge 
et thie tine it fleshed eeee ie the senlights 
thin black line. It then performed u maneuver 
had begun e sloh roll, or s barrel roll, chich 
pleted, was borfof ken at about the 160-degree 
Lt then eppeered ees 
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uoich looked aifs it.- 
ionfs tead being con-, 
point. The object 1 _ 
rolled oouf t the toofp the maneuve art this-point, and I lost sight? 
of it 
#39 . ; T his entire porfordon wcaes otaerve adgains tthe backgrouonfd-; 
cloud 2 3-rev! 0|-sly Iorminz 
to_ce, relatively, es the 
knee hoe for sec; it vac. 
over the beans Prairie. The dejoctiappeored - 
size onf twenty-five cert piece._-i do not 
.1 do not tne:, nor can I trvthfullg estizgte 
its speed. I can only so: it ea: not an airplane, aifn d it nos st.a 
very great distance from me, its speed use great, taking into consider- ation 
that apparent speed is reduced to tihf c#39;viencr an object is 1 _. 
very great distance sw#a3y9.; #39 ~; ~# 39; ~  *; 
#3 r9; I forget to lock ct 
the object. The CA5: lo; 
clock to deternine tte enact tire I can 
to#39;teen bcve 
zcde o#39; l 
I first so-#39; 
tf-etine 
Sıbctgtini 
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have s roefcording 
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of radio contacts shoe: an first eestect 
t 12: 7 hours. Eu: a fez second: elapsed betneen 
. the object, end the time I called the#39;3at#39;s-s1t.ati lg re1ete§tıee rvacdri Eoof ı33E?Ip thEai I0t2a?; 
the cI onversation. have not checked to uctcresne. 
of my relating over the air that I so: was to Enable 
of the report to the nfoere epapcr, ot_thet time I 
n4d: energies thcnceforth were devoted to ll trans- er 
rapid treneviszion 
was on aesignnent c 
zltting the ieforxetion snd ˇ! conducting a further search, ¬hich.I _ 
did after landing f 
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first one, 
thprou;hl3 
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fuel and to note seae telephone calls. #39;-,;fiY= 
rob, begun within half an hour after landing from the 
another too hours, tut nos negative. -1-explored 
on chore I can the oAb1je-1c-t .  . -~ 
after ci itin, tro object, I aifs ked tcre were othzz 
next sea 
consumed 
the rcgi 
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aircraft in tie area. There was s E-51 or tee 120th squadron practic- mr 
113 maneuvers in the vicinity 0f_uupa, but that nus behind uc.- 4.6-32 
yaased over Loiae, bI ut sue that aircraft 50 beneath ue kg s2o,0m0e0 
feet. The P-bl in the voifc inity tuna proceeded ta the srea#39;dhere#39;saw the abject, at_n5 request, and conducted e search. 
Puring the afternoon, folifg hts P-Els core sent out to 
and £2919: then flee high altitude aiesioni 01 ezggen. 
It was negative. 
cover tto_erec,, 
ihese searches Q-_-g g-l guaeg. iyo. , - .- . . , .__ -,,. ~ f¢-P,  7 - .,=,=§#39;§i*;-,--_§ cos subseque innftolyrm tehdat person onne bloth the Iihirited 
Lines soifd e dozen ficlı, and on the national guard side, observed 1 
gleek object maneuvering in forof nt the sane cloud forestion, which t: 
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20,000 fe et from s can boaf se ll.-,50 ol0-r1,000 feet, moa sneelevel. 
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they believed the time to have been 14:00 hours. £110 objectpertormed 
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ng fronrpriazory trainer: to -I--29:. Oi course, that doe: not1n#39;-5# 39; 
crease mpyowers oi ohcervation except as to those 1-rocticed dhayilfy. 
fan airman. It does not make meyesight any sharper except ag,ain_as ,;-~- 
_-;_. toa the incidental demands upon the eyes Oi Ii pilot. ,--.#39;i;-erg;r;-:--_-=._E 
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_ _ teen and one-half hours on an lssignment to rind a disc and if-possible, 
to photograph i tI.n all frankness, Iwas tired. I may have been - .- 
1. sufrering, although slightly, from cant of oxygen. - _ _._#39;11,;T#39;;,;j__fj1;# P3r9#io;3r9 ; to sighting the object, I had concluded there was no point 
9 2 in pressing, the search that I probably would never stehe disc-like - _ #3o9b;j ects refetorr beydb and by Ft United Laiinr es. 
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or hypnosis. 1an familiar ti th the optical illusion of afixed object 
.- - beginning to more after it iswatched asuilficicnt length oi tine. I 
. knee s.-hat tricks the was will play as to moving-bodies, and hat: le arnei 
. o.f- this particularly during night formation flying. -~,-_-._¢_-;_ 
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_ I would not he, so strong in saying; that I sao something not an aircraft, 
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tto nae convinces me that I can an object actually performing in an; # 39#;3 9; crra ti ctli 5p.ah t th . -~_ - -épı 
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= = laboratories it241 hatter} Street, San rancisco, showed not race oi . 
any object. says that it it ass more than a mile distant tron use I at the bited escribed,o tbhje ct wnooutl dh arveeg istered suffic- 
92 -iently on the tila to he shown. lie said it probably Ias too tar away 
, _j_ to be apparent even through great enlargement or thenegstiVe, and , 
*f-~- - -enlargement in that case is limited because or the size of the fill! 7 
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Dries passing through B so on a schedule flight at the time andhad a EU minu stetop - over b. reitcr-=.t .. ed the st atem .e-nts originally 
mbav de J him to the p ress to umt he had 5-2011i n the l ate eveni_1 L#!3 o9i;1-#Ju#lvI39; 
-ith I I v.-I-.011 C mir1#39;.lbe o.sut I-I Luise on the IO#39;-1 L1026 Seattle Hashim J ton. It 
i s the opinion 01 -t#h3ei 9v;?-nrviwre rch:: d.lu; e to the positi011 
occuyies, mat h_e I would ha o tr.» be vs! ~: stron0r: -lyconvinced 
that ho rctnally saw flyiwg disk; before he would open himself for the rid-i 
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1- far 10 Jul; 1947, aclzoch was rn-Io at the fO].10#39;.#39;Jin[_; locations 
in Palv Sprin;:92, Califonmiafo r the ;1u#39;pturysien go ito locate. 
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39;i.3n.cmosl ,t he City .#39;!.#o3f 9P;a£lsio-1e Ss prings including waste 
disposal, l.#319;?Z-9fi2ts!,T t.oGz1 r-m -oreis .--d otc. No recordo f 
existed i.n#3.19; 9o2it he o.#3199;2or1:.t#io3|91;re: #39;. offices. i. 
2. Cm1 1 . 1m914;1- , r PSaplrmings, 
Co1iiornir1 for the past 14 3#39r;men-.rs i#13.£9;;o:=rv 1o-.1s-otadt.e d that ho hlaivde d Pina lm Sf;o~rr it1hp-e.ag s_tsy 2 e-a1r s tahnadt w hea s unaLware 
if a porson 11zn.ior1~hac1 ever lived in Palm Springs.  
astntod t-ihmet to the iaot tPinatltj Springs is a resort ares and 
dwc to the foot; that itnhe s1:_|un.er noth e only 3to 5 thousand people resided 
in Palm Lp1io;#39;r-, whino t:h-coo s 92-:5;-.t-or mont1h0s to 12 thousand resided in 
Izxlm S;#39;15#: 3*9.;i#r.3.gv9e;:r#ry.3s p9 o;ss,s ible ti:--_t_oou1d have lived in 
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cc the ocnl-oxats 92#393;r;dz 9C2l.a::s s nato:#39;i#39;~th.1e 1e;n-rvde lope not sealed. The 
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us =*~.1-mctboyc l #39;.nd stated that there wast 
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1 A  # _3 9; # t trh o3 A me9oin; Crthso, twr feponty asr- sibx o n tonuen mt on atsh#3s9;.d inut --thet 1a.-rtoe, andd has been1: {I that on BJuly - 1. -_ -1947, he was going to Base Cleaners fhro m s o co and was passing#1 
.:_ A alongthe sidewalk near the barrac_k vs: oi the ORD h en he sfiavwe or sis 
._ -- men pointing, toward the sky ,u bt as he was use to this aroundanlrnu 
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_ across the sky. Tao seeme tdo be traveling raster than an ordin :V? 
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1, behind the other two. ststed that tron a distance he could 
#3  9; ; not tell e xactl y the shape oi the one which was rolling as it sppeared_ 
# 39#;3 9; to be turning; over-rand he couldrıt tell another the object was flat. ._ 
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get brighter and darker as it appeared to roll-._# T3h9e; objects were in 
_. . sight approximately 1our seconds. As he was in a bhur rey , did not stag 
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the rear was certainly rollin,  Iast ea as unable to i-dentii#-_ any of the othe mr eni n the grou wpho -::ere#3 J93; troe hpaovre seenthe 
_ object. Q9#3 t9ate;d that ite as unlik aenyth hine hga edvesrcm 
I th_at__ hhaeeMAeentry toin c§onvinc hethimats elf it was anoptical  III Ar: n O- 
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Long Island, New York. She stated that the message had aopeared in the 
County Irar itant, feature of this paper, and had been signed Padio Haw. 
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determine from what newspaper the clipping in question was obtained. 
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tahleleged receipt of the coded message. 
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Reference is made to the memorandumto you frog: the Liaison 
Section dated July 21, 1947, setting forth a request from Colonel ]l#39;r.#39;Q#39;.:lnn fclo. Boon of the Intelligence oDfi vthiWseio anr Depfoar ttmh?eLhn: tT ;.§§discs. . 
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It is felt tthhaet situation regarding these flying saucers and 
flying disis cs vseimryilar to the situation which was previously encountered 
Icy the Bureau during the past war in handling complaints arising out of the 
sighting of Japanese baloons. You will recall that at the inception of these 
complaints the Blreau conducted considerable investigation and located numerous 
baloons aas cooperative measure for the Arnur and that after considerable work 
had been done, the Army then informed that these were military weapons and that 
they wtaokuel d over the handling of these completely. This they did and in an  
extremely short time issued s big press release as to the splendid work of-the 
Army i.n locating these Japanese baloons. From the information available thus 
far, it does not appear that these discs should be treated other than as a ; _ 
military weapon. Certainly the Bureau has no way to determine what experiments #39; the aAnmdya N rea vcyo annddu cwstihunecght hb meer i agrohisut itn ogf K 
experiments being conducted btyhem nor do we have any way of determining how i 
ethe results of experiments bt yhe Russian Army.I t short, it would c¬rtainly appear tthhisa i st amilitarsyi tuations ahnodu ldh abned led st trıyigctly 
H11# 39;Qt. ;¢,,r v_ _a_u.t h o,_ri ties ____-. -- .a,.n_..- 
In this connection it might be pointed out that our present Portland 
case arose out of the fact that two Arnw Intelligence officers were returning 
__.__._#39;__ffromaonf tinwtoe rivnideiwvi duals who reportedly had seen flying discs. If 
he Army Intelligence officers are handling some of these interviews, it is be- Flevedth tehya tsb heo uhladan ldl lotinhf ge se intaenr ivitdsi e nwost , 
beiieved that the Bureau should be expending its precious manpower on these com-plaints 
which thus far have no connection with our Russian espionage program. 
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looking for than we are and have more facilities for handling any material which 
it is necessary to examine as a result of its breipnogrted as aremnant oi a 
flying disc. It is believed that the Bzreau ismerely playing bird-dog for the 
Army buysing our manpower to run out these complaints on flying discs. 
ACTION:  #39; Q3R4E QQRDED 463- -1 
|p|n1n|I I|iynz -___-, 
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t-has is attached a letter to the Chicago Office asking tr  
requested investigation. 
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-  #3 o9;f the iir Forces Intelligence, expressed the possibility that flying 
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J 5 1-.1 personal opinion that such was a probability. Colonel 
confidentially that s ml who is a scientist attached to the 
. . .  Forces Intelligence, was of the same opinion. , .~ ,,__V _. _ 
. Colonel stated that he based his assumption on the#39;  
~#39 fo; llowing: Be pointed out that when flying objects were reported seen over 
-IL_ Sweden, the high brass of the liar Department exerted tremendous pr#e3s9s;ure 
on the Air Forces Intelligence to conduct research and collect i-n formation  
1 #3 a9n;i enffort to identity these sightings. Colone l stated that, in  - 
; 4 contrast to this, In have reported sightings of unknown objects over the iF 
Unite Sdtate asn, d the hig bhrass appea troe bde totally unconcer 1ned7.Q 
Z 1#3 H9e; indicated this led him to believe that they knew enough about the#s3e9; I #f39; objec tot esxpr neso csonce Orno.lonel* poin oteud fturth tehra tthe#39; 
~ e objects in question have been seen by many dividuals who are what he 
terms trained observers, such as airplane pilots. lie indicated also that 
several of the individuals are reliable members oi the couzmnity. He sta#t3e9d; 
#3 it9; is his conclusion that these individuals saw something. He stated the _ 
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  • 1. 9_2 I n, ;Q_ 'j ' Q "2 92 i. ~...;=.:#39;.,-»_a: ..a =¢-,-n..1-..r.#39;-;= ._ . 11 _ __.~ .___ M-_1.. M.»? *- .. 7- l -,.#39;.U£.. ;#39;- wt. --. 1~ 1#.3-9; #39; 1-» _N,u is 11 - 3J _; .__ --=. -: - .92#39; 3. 3 I I _ =_»#39; je- ~. #39;4 1:: __e#39; § 1 I; 7»-2#39; Q 1.~. .1 1. Q Iu#39;_#39; 5 Q-f; . -ti ,#39;,:_~| s: 1_ p_ $5. -r. #39; -1 - *1 ?i Incident 4A? 1208 I 1-# J3u9ly;3. 1947 92 I.§EYIO?3.#39; I.-YC:UR T#I-3If9;i _#:139F;IC!-I I #39; 1- On 12 July 1947, n c11 war: Y-1 d:o #39 tl;z=rt, newsnener Office of {he Idr ho Lsilv SIT!-==-#39 ;1oni, l iˇho h~ of pnper , r.-al nsterviewi nc rcelga trod ho wwelhle knew of Ioise, Tdnluo, and as to the credibility of any .bFli_#3 m9;o!v»ie l1_#39;1t The Ourpose 0! this i nterview I55 an attev--at to verify Str92t1#3 n9o;dr:e0l ntyS0n 26 June1947, to vrricms notional news services to the ef#39;| theactt. he, had s9 et1 objects fl}rin_g i n the nir above the ascede Hountain Range of W -.e11in; 1 s##o3 o39b9;je;hc wtoctesn sr.eubseq rueefenrtrl tyeo ads flying 4 saucers or flying disks and will here-inaf5er be referred to as such i n this report. $+.sted thˇt he had I-:no1-in rm- quite n period of ti--we, hm/in{#3 h9a;d r #39;1ntin w#3ith9;n#39;: on various occnsinrs, due to the fact that both he and were orıvste Fliers and frequently got together to talk shop- stetnd that as fer rr. he was r-on:-horne adnyt1inr_ said could be - . tr#39;.1 #3#93;9¢ s;.*en~rrioyusly nnd that 11#39;! scizuall believed that Hr. Arnold hvd seem the rforerertloned l lring dlsks. stated that after .-@;~.=r+.¢d Eevini seen the flying: dfsks, that the editor of -.3 pr-_*92 M2dr Hs5#39;=r P.e-idn, the assignment of taking the nirjslr-w oelon,,ir1{; tr the n;rz -::s;-:1; aw: 93-h:=u$tinf_ P11 efforts to prove or disjrove th probrbilitf of flying disks hevinr been seen i n the !:o1t92w. a--r:e»ar1. I. The results of 1.11s rssi,_n.e: to#3 9a;:ntd what he sn»s¢quen s#m39 ;s1 pu#t3 f9o;r.lt}h. #139 a; sworn statement signedt nttr 0..- tro! this report as #39;lxh5ib.it #39; .#39;- ..;ı -.[.,1T*::s#=39;f; i s 0 e#03?9;n uornic . all -fZTfO.!#39;!§ heˇ1i sr #39;lEve.rr#39;-. -mf: l ogged P300 hours of 11§.# t3in9r;inIi n_ various types of airplanes uv to P Ii ncl ruhd i-enug1o; vtiini!e- ri-Yn2rcgrF t#.3 h9a;mr otf trhir ae w1;sai yres taoirg6s,ned the z#39;E*1 U#S3A9!;;i-0. a}t:hnd st-tinned on rinian Isl-.nc1, i n the Pacific. It #39; t1== = =rs-an-ll 0-i aetuslly sew w!;r+. he stntes that he sn? i n t#39 n;rtt1n~r:-hed 1¬nc~rt- It i s also the Opinion of tiw i ntervieweri ll!- tWould hove *1-.v w:here to l ose thangain em 92.# 3#9 h3;-m9;-.u.##3 to399;-;l be very str0T._1j convirlce-#3 t9h;n9t2 he actually saw something hr2f#39; 1or #39;-ou rld.:92r#3 s9;9#2319; rHm#3.l9|i n;i.videzwt mm! open himself for the ridicule timt #39;0u nIdcr*.or|pˇnj.# s3u9c;h P report.
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T ~*1-3-i-7,f_;#39;Idaho, into northwestern laontanbsr iefly, to Spokane, iashingtona, nd -#39;27;--3; 92 a-I ~ , |er it -_._ ~I,_#39;-__7_,..- --. #39; #39; #39 -; #39 ;# 39; J.-----f-,-~-5.--a t 5 .. -*5 ,-,- ##3399;; .-- ¢ 5 ,S#3ta9t;e moef nt# 39;- o, ::-.#39;_:4f_.:--_3§;-.:;:_:J:;.:;;;;#39; e ,- #39;re- #39;.._ a.t-aI #39; -.~. -1-I #39; ..Al-3-#39;92---#-.3-9; cl. -- r, at BoiseI,d aho, Jul1y2 , 9d#13.~9.;-;.. #39;..-.-#T39#;.3 ;9=;;-:§~I.;-;.-_#:i3¢9;#.3;.#9i=3;~ ¢9_ ;* -#-3§9#-1;3~.9-¢.;;.-.-_+=.*- #3 9 ,; # 3#93#;- I93 .;9;# 3-9;# - 3 9-;. - I1=5#39;=-;.#39;-#39;--.#39;?:#39;*V -#39; .5_._ -- .#319#*; 3 . :9; .:##*3- Y3 -99.-;;_ 0 - .- # --3-# 93.-9;.; -. -. 4 1 .,. - r.~.e, _.,_ .#¢,3_-9e; - #z »*3.-119 #;l:3,1; 9_-1;.#.!.3- ,*9 --;_ .- -.~4_ .;.; -.-,- I #f 39;- . . a. .a- --_. ##33 99-a;;- 6 ~-9=2.a,. --1s .o-#- 43_fi-9 ;-|g_-vr-l_e.92~#/- 1.--a. --- --* --.*_ -_#39; 1.--.-.1--?--, or ,x-.-:=,-,=;~»,*- -;-;~-.. V .- ,. V.-._ a1---~_ Tnoon conomt -___- --. ._-#:_3-9f;_ 1,. 1# 39; _? 7#39; - -_ r- - 1 -. - #3,9-7;:-e---I vI-:-I -1I ---ii_-o- r-3ef?:#- 39;!##3399;; #139;__: 3-92J- 1 - .3 -.~- 7 -A; ~#39;v -1--#39;-=2?-;#39;e-:-=:#:2;-¢_,:=:-I of -# .39#;93n9 ; t heu m day the of July,_1 8Ktestnosspre:941 1,r eceived epne irns ,I dainasch_oo;r yp,__ r;o~¥r§a #39;_ etrat#e3s9m;9n2 Pr#in3t9in;g compaanny ,a ssignm wewhnatis c h in substances-é.-I_;;11=,,_,.1;-,#39;,,, #3 _9 ;;. . ,_._f..#3-9 -; ,.-_n .cw: - =_-tr: 1-,----:-:5-=1-:-3:-?i:;#39;.*¢=*.._, ,92. _. 1-I o. ._eee and photogr aaflpyhin g disc. Condutcht is petrolf or sol ong a tii é-if-i.#39;.T In eeoordenoe thoe se instructions,I toot the Statesnena#ir3p9la;ns e, i,~7_.;.-_#39;;-,#39; awnitdh qes passenger, flee a saenvde none-half nhisosuiro n -1-1oon tho seventhd ev o July, l9i#39T;hl.i s saissiown as withourte sult. I-t#39;:=-L-#39;:-#end territory betwcon anda round Ett. Rainier and Sit. Adams,u her , #391;-__;, first reported seeing objectsh enceforth describe asdsa ucers or discs. -:# 39 ; _; 92 -On the eightdha y oJr uly, ion, 1tool: an at-so f then oun Fightfe_r #39;§2f* squadron, Idallehtoio ncl Guarodi, ihich 1 an amembear,n d flewto nortiiern l . to Boiseb y treoyf FallsF alls, Tashingtaonnd, Pendle0to|-ne,g on_._ Unis search also no negative. #39; a_ ~n A .~ #39;-.#39;_;_On then inth dayo f July, 1947, I continued thes earch, ags-uins ing a 1;; £{_-;_ 1-_--. national guarAdl -6, thist ime centerin=gg #39; eofvfoeri-ts #39;them 0o:-uynhteaein s rest and southwest of Boise, a portion of the llountain Bone desert on a track _,,f#39; southeast of the ıountain lions army sir base, thence into the Saartooth noun- ,;,., teins, and heck in the generadl irection of Ioiec on aline carrying; now ell 17.-_ to the north of the 5hafer hutte forest service lookout station, into the .0_ - Tsorseshos Beanrde a, and thence hecki n ssouthwesterly direction to I. point _#39;,_#between Boise and the village of iieridisn, rest of Boise a fer Iilese ,o,.»-a--..~:#39;.._;.-.#39; Duringt his march,w hich lasteda pproximately twaon d one-half ;..;_-_,..;...-.#39;.#hours, I lee undear nd arounradp idly formincgu mulus clouodvse r that #39;0-_ _;_#area knowna s the Canes Prairie, east of Boise. fhe clouds weren ear the :5 -#39;»-#.- Q yillage of ?airfield in that valley, and F-airfield is 76 exilesa irline ;,;f._,_#39_;~; ._ - distanoe east of Boise. it that time I saw nothing in the vicinity of .--,--_ V __ ~these clouds. - #39 1; o#~3:9I.;..#3#93;9 ;*.,._#39;:|..-.; At the tine I reachedt he point between ioieea nd EaridianI, one -#39;--:~:.--f;flying at an altitude of 14,000 feet means ea level, Ihioh would he amean--#I:3 19;-;n aovf erage 11,000 feeta bove thee arth in this ares, not consideringe rrors fr--#39;-_#i nthe altimeter induced either bbyarometric changes sinces q takeoff, 0r,_;-_ -.1#; 39;- #39t;h eb yte e:-aerstuarts t hat altitude. Y-o Q3#39;, #39;0? I turned thaei rcraft ona n easterlhye ading, pointitnogw ard Goe.ern. ,#39;:jg. Field, and had floo nw n that coursefo r perhap asn inute when therseu ddenly _ _#39a;pj,pe#a3r9e;d_ t_ihne # le3f9t ;h and portioonf mfieyld of vision a onbject nh_i_ch_§s _ f-A jf-hle- ct andr ound. #39; -#3 .9*; # -3 9; #39; ..# 39;1 T_f#3#93;9 ;I»;;:_?-T#3}9_;?- I immediately centervoqd gazeo n theo hjeot-. At that tine, due to its .;--.-_ 4- :--. erre ic uoveocnt, tIh ough tw #a3s9 s;Ieeing aw; eatherh clloon. 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L ;- -.-# :339, ; 1::-.:.#3 29;; J;-.....: £13-_. ##3399;;_.-#.-3-9- =;=J,;-Z.i-..2 .-=.;--#.=3;9T;-.=-##3191; -.--#3F9, ;-- ,_ #39 ;- V- -. - . . ._,.,-__ ~-.. ,-___ ,-v- . -,_-qr I.! - 4-..-¢,# =3 =9 -{;J, -#3 ,,9_s;, .-.#39;=-;,.r_.-.v.q.z_92-§A,?-.!i!#39;§. ~ _-I .-.. Y.-7.-,-#3 ;-9 -;- .--#.3 :?.9.; :r;#:.-3-#.9.3 -.;-.9;1A.; -.:.#39;.:.- 2-:.2.c-.-.-e= --r-I-# K3#93--;9--;1-#3-9;-_--~ _ . . __ _ . l. -._ - .- .- -7,. .._- --.,_!-.J--0 1. #-39#;93 =29-o;-f-.-:..:,¢~#.o39;.J.:--_1 4¢-fu1r; l#3#93;99 2;2=:f_;|n.##3399;;-gm-___; -#39;l#39;_- - ., .-_ -__;.-._ 1- -_: ,;#39;._#3 9-;I,#39,;_.#39;_-J - - #39 -.;_ ;,- ., ,# 3-9; #3 9 ,;1-.., ,;_ -3- -.#3 .-9;.._. ._.J 11-I -_.#39;§-LP---,J#39;a--v.-Q d back the plexiglass covering to avoid uni; If, soeo Jo douf ration eight millimeter motion picture film. Duringéiie the imc the camera was at eye level, I could not sec the object be-r§- coaf use noifn uteneas scope introduced by the optical vice findcrggie with which the camera, an f.l.9 Eastman, was eouipped.#39;*~;ié5£~2ıZ??1§* Taking the camera eeay and once again centering up gaze on th_ oI bject, observed it to roll so that its edge et thie tine it fleshed eeee ie the senlights thin black line. It then performed u maneuver had begun e sloh roll, or s barrel roll, chich pleted, was borfof ken at about the 160-degree Lt then eppeered ees I uoich looked aifs it.- ionfs tead being con-, point. The object 1 _ rolled oouf t the toofp the maneuve art this-point, and I lost sight? of it #39 . ; T his entire porfordon wcaes otaerve adgains tthe backgrouonfd-; cloud 2 3-rev! 0|-sly Iorminz to_ce, relatively, es the knee hoe for sec; it vac. over the beans Prairie. The dejoctiappeored - size onf twenty-five cert piece._-i do not .1 do not tne:, nor can I trvthfullg estizgte its speed. I can only so: it ea: not an airplane, aifn d it nos st.a very great distance from me, its speed use great, taking into consider- ation that apparent speed is reduced to tihf c#39;viencr an object is 1 _. very great distance sw#a3y9.; #39 ~; ~# 39; ~ *; #3 r9; I forget to lock ct the object. The CA5: lo; clock to deternine tte enact tire I can to#39;teen bcve zcde o#39; l I first so-#39; tf-etine Sıbctgtini ce:::.:unicator__,..|e3 re:..e ber it. .-no co::..rol toner ::a;,#sa:,#39;s1i have s roefcording I the PU PP 98 3 of radio contacts shoe: an first eestect t 12: 7 hours. Eu: a fez second: elapsed betneen . the object, end the time I called the#39;3at#39;s-s1t.ati lg re1ete§tıee rvacdri Eoof ı33E?Ip thEai I0t2a?; the cI onversation. have not checked to uctcresne. of my relating over the air that I so: was to Enable of the report to the nfoere epapcr, ot_thet time I n4d: energies thcnceforth were devoted to ll trans- er rapid treneviszion was on aesignnent c zltting the ieforxetion snd ˇ! conducting a further search, ¬hich.I _ did after landing f 0 - The first one, thprou;hl3 #39; I21 fuel and to note seae telephone calls. #39;-,;fiY= rob, begun within half an hour after landing from the another too hours, tut nos negative. -1-explored on chore I can the oAb1je-1c-t . . -~ after ci itin, tro object, I aifs ked tcre were othzz next sea consumed the rcgi #39;C#39;G -lli;0 ,31:;#3 9; .- - - - aircraft in tie area. There was s E-51 or tee 120th squadron practic- mr 113 maneuvers in the vicinity 0f_uupa, but that nus behind uc.- 4.6-32 yaased over Loiae, bI ut sue that aircraft 50 beneath ue kg s2o,0m0e0 feet. The P-bl in the voifc inity tuna proceeded ta the srea#39;dhere#39;saw the abject, at_n5 request, and conducted e search. Puring the afternoon, folifg hts P-Els core sent out to and £2919: then flee high altitude aiesioni 01 ezggen. It was negative. cover tto_erec,, ihese searches Q-_-g g-l guaeg. iyo. , - .- . . , .__ -,,. ~ f¢-P, 7 - .,=,=§#39;§i*;-,--_§ cos subseque innftolyrm tehdat person onne bloth the Iihirited Lines soifd e dozen ficlı, and on the national guard side, observed 1 gleek object maneuvering in forof nt the sane cloud forestion, which t: nor had grown so that the clouds reached a protablc hoef ight 19 CO0 or 20,000 fe et from s can boaf se ll.-,50 ol0-r1,000 feet, moa sneelevel. Tohf ree these men more national guard personnel and 1 talked to them, :-U__ . 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I have approximately 2600 hours of flying time in oqulpmont*:,¢;;_; -- ,i f.r-ang, l ng fronrpriazory trainer: to -I--29:. Oi course, that doe: not1n#39;-5# 39; crease mpyowers oi ohcervation except as to those 1-rocticed dhayilfy. fan airman. It does not make meyesight any sharper except ag,ain_as ,;-~- _-;_. toa the incidental demands upon the eyes Oi Ii pilot. ,--.#39;i;-erg;r;-:--_-=._E 57 -#39; At the time of the experience related above, Ihad flown tour-»#3#93; 9; _ _ teen and one-half hours on an lssignment to rind a disc and if-possible, to photograph i tI.n all frankness, Iwas tired. I may have been - .- 1. sufrering, although slightly, from cant of oxygen. - _ _._#39;11,;T#39;;,;j__fj1;# P3r9#io;3r9 ; to sighting the object, I had concluded there was no point 9 2 in pressing, the search that I probably would never stehe disc-like - _ #3o9b;j ects refetorr beydb and by Ft United Laiinr es. ~ a:_,; #3 -9a; lt #39;~ all tines during; th- searck:,#39;ho on tr .a- rd #39;a n .d t#he3 9; . t -w_1o..- : #39; pdraoyc-ese [dpianrgtwi chuelacnar l:y I w ibitahd lrterallyé¢ * - -talked to myself to keep boating into mhyead hat Iwould not fall,-;_; #39; - #3v9i;c tim to the pacer oi suggestion or self-hypnosis arising from a #39; naturally very intent desire to find adisc and bring s-utoc cess the .- #39;_assi,-grunent giveuns . -- 1 - - I therefore do not believe that I was the victim or sug,gestion_#39; or hypnosis. 1an familiar ti th the optical illusion of afixed object .- - beginning to more after it iswatched asuilficicnt length oi tine. I . knee s.-hat tricks the was will play as to moving-bodies, and hat: le arnei . o.f- this particularly during night formation flying. -~,-_-._¢_-;_ .- #39-; I saw the object appear suddenly. iift had novod in aJerky 1 . fashion as it did at first} for the full length oi time I observed -1t, _ I would not he, so strong in saying; that I sao something not an aircraft, _ _ not a balloon, and not a corpuscle moving acres: the retina oi either -1 eye. #39;i#39;h_ed emsacnriebuevde r t tyhe object than its edge was presented tto nae convinces me that I can an object actually performing in an; # 39#;3 9; crra ti ctli 5p.ah t th . -~_ - -épı _ _ The question remains, oi -course, #a3t 9; raI wit. #39;The mo-tion ;#3p9i;c-tru re Iilzpd, evelencd paroncde ssed E]-F in theE astman = = laboratories it241 hatter} Street, San rancisco, showed not race oi . any object. says that it it ass more than a mile distant tron use I at the bited escribed,o tbhje ct wnooutl dh arveeg istered suffic- 92 -iently on the tila to he shown. lie said it probably Ias too tar away , _j_ to be apparent even through great enlargement or thenegstiVe, and , *f-~- - -enlargement in that case is limited because or the size of the fill! 7 = 12:1----_ a nd the tact Idid not have any telescopic equipment on the lens. -The #39; 1It-- exposure was i#39;.l6, atospe t at infinity, at a speed of l_6 frames par second. ~ .-#,--3.-.9 -- ; . 1# -3 -9 ; #i 39; ;.-.--:;..--. .-#39;_#39;-,* . -I have =0:-ried over this matter a great deal since seeing1t; . v-a ˇ--_ -#B39;ut, g- tI k w Ezycsaoltn asnidoe ta nbd straoiind ,t ghcpo-emo,,e nin neywt sdooonrl r#I3 9;dt idb en stoup.ti1d Y»#-w;3-9;thing, The impression of the moment was too vivid too realistic and - Iimswiin the air shun Is aa thatp artial slou roll or.harre_rl oll, _ that Iwas not avictin of illusion. #39;-P - I#39; - :-T #39; I trust this matter will be oi help to those investigating the f§#39;%?TTdi#s3c 9p;h felyninogm ena ahich have been reported. a -. ~-. . - Q _. 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  • 7. I A1 u92_ ; ; qké - ;_Y; _ r .? . #39;1- 0~ =4 mi,-.@,-,:= ». ..a: . . . . - 92A -_ - T§§:#39; -1#39; 92-. . 9#39; ii.:- I .#39; #39;1.-I :9I#n23992; #39;4; . ..M- A = : J_ _L I*? . - . J, - -. __s ; . IE , i _9i2. ... §-92.- -#39;- 4~ .#3#93;92;, a ,I#39;92_~ . Q _ #39;: , tn. #39;51,-#39; _ ,4-_ 12i: ~r:_- - -2; #5359.?; . 5, Q ,. ;_r-_.:-_R .-A rT- 3: r - Incident IMF 1208 I 16 July 1947 vib- ;- t .__ T1 1. O1n2 July 1941 -,01 the United Airlines, was i 11§. a¬t tPhIe BoVi Iis-.I8eu9n2i Acirp#po3o Bl9ro;t-,i Isde #a,3h9o;.0d E Dries passing through B so on a schedule flight at the time andhad a EU minu stetop - over b. reitcr-=.t .. ed the st atem .e-nts originally mbav de J him to the p ress to umt he had 5-2011i n the l ate eveni_1 L#!3 o9i;1-#Ju#lvI39; -ith I I v.-I-.011 C mir1#39;.lbe o.sut I-I Luise on the IO#39;-1 L1026 Seattle Hashim J ton. It i s the opinion 01 -t#h3ei 9v;?-nrviwre rch:: d.lu; e to the positi011 occuyies, mat h_e I would ha o tr.» be vs! ~: stron0r: -lyconvinced that ho rctnally saw flyiwg disk; before he would open himself for the rid-i culc attached to a report of#39; type. - I -3? .,;, -, 1 . ,# 3 .#9 .3; 9; Q- - F .-#¢ 1-:3,: _9_# »,; 3°9 ;.-.-# 3Q9;_ #~3; _9 n -9;,2~#_3..9 .| .;-1g#13; ..-9aI5 ;;n9,,2 #c- 13#;939;; I z -F9? 2 -_r9_R2 -9#23 T9Ii; §~. i f--.~ 7¢::-.#39;-~--» #3992;ı 9ın2.***#39#;3_9_;-t*P- -E #-#3.3.9~9;»1;-»e- -1.#-4.32~9.;¢*-f#--39F;-
  • 8. 1 .r1~-. #39;.i#39;_#39;7.Ii#39;..n-~---~ . .»-v-:1-.,.J -#39;_-1.. -- .. m-~m4.4......., ._ _.....--_... M.-.. ... . _.. ._-. -__ _ , . . . 7-71 hide -n S e. #39;e C Qt i .. Incident @.- 4AF 12os I e H5 -.. 4 i 1 ,1 v . :-3 A - , -.1; . E, - X n #39;- P: ,2? 9 J. if. - 1;. 1- .3- . 92-_Yq._ = 4- __;r.1 {fr .- .{_3_ * 2#.. P 39; L E151»; . sf A aw _ _ _1é July 1947 1i1;;...u.u92._u92.u.. xx.-:114 ;, .1I - 1- far 10 Jul; 1947, aclzoch was rn-Io at the fO].10#39;.#39;Jin[_; locations in Palv Sprin;:92, Califonmiafo r the ;1u#39;pturysien go ito locate. Pa1Cc-hmo S n p p mpSap1r~DprSeinmsgso r,l in.-:SP fa.~vf lmProi PCSaoi nlic_er mrT #ijws3a epSlaepqpr9po;#P3rt3amol9mmeC;h,in mPgamsl -SpatT,alNairfivnoete;0m gwr,Ilin srns pi#p#aa3l3o9ym;Ge9r;,a, sS 1oPall #39;ir#3 9H;:o|_: --= _O- i C_.#,_3o9_.;.._.-_# 3...9-.R-;1I.u u_I1~9.;2|_iv.-11--U.. . P,. . :-.H.rı.t.uulo, 5 P.a. _.l...|. ==. . s:.t.d. 1;- g5 7..1}. estate o1# S 39;i.3n.cmosl ,t he City .#39;!.#o3f 9P;a£lsio-1e Ss prings including waste disposal, l.#319;?Z-9fi2ts!,T t.oGz1 r-m -oreis .--d otc. No recordo f existed i.n#3.19; 9o2it he o.#3199;2or1:.t#io3|91;re: #39;. offices. i. 2. Cm1 1 . 1m914;1- , r PSaplrmings, Co1iiornir1 for the past 14 3#39r;men-.rs i#13.£9;;o:=rv 1o-.1s-otadt.e d that ho hlaivde d Pina lm Sf;o~rr it1hp-e.ag s_tsy 2 e-a1r s tahnadt w hea s unaLware if a porson 11zn.ior1~hac1 ever lived in Palm Springs. astntod t-ihmet to the iaot tPinatltj Springs is a resort ares and dwc to the foot; that itnhe s1:_|un.er noth e only 3to 5 thousand people resided in Palm Lp1io;#39;r-, whino t:h-coo s 92-:5;-.t-or mont1h0s to 12 thousand resided in Izxlm S;#39;15#: 3*9.;i#r.3.gv9e;:r#ry.3s p9 o;ss,s ible ti:--_t_oou1d have lived in I::.L-r. 3_I1nir1r-o# o3r9 l;oSs s on 21 nozx-;~~:~r~s:mtartuos 1 a~hnet d, not baein#g39;.#39o;.f i#t.3 9;e.r92 f A choolc of Caro-rc.l Deli-rory records revealed a letter addressed to Po1.1 5pri::_;o, -miled from Cicero, Indiana, postmarked 11#3l9*:;c; C92ic.ei1r9o#6,3 79 ,;I 4a_7t :~T. oh,e J lualy#d 3:9-r;eCsthse# o3n9 ;i;#39;or-rolopo o }.if:a#s3 9th;:oc - I Cicero, Indiana; io:-mitteˇ the contents oi ?.#39;;1e etiorv boelo gesxea mizlod i.no.smuoh cc the ocnl-oxats 92#393;r;dz 9C2l.a::s s nato:#39;i#39;~th.1e 1e;n-rvde lope not sealed. The records were oi areligious :=z.t=.1ro c=;-.ccrr@thino, ;so#d3 9p;_l§ .;_#39;Ahtm oef rican no1oln1rcI1 ;_1o-.#39;;.31o: -s, oc_5c?~ o; ir;q Ca_hn_rdqi s~t3:1ize tc. us =*~.1-mctboyc l #39;.nd stated that there wast #39;.#3r9o;o.ni#v3e9d; F1»-af.i?l - hot3 ~.ron;;h the =_#39;e=-.o1#39o;off.i1c ed eolfi veryt he Palm Spriv := inst L fico, but that the loot mail, other than the letter mentioned :-.#39o;:.-r.*-~1.r-, thrc~th#o3 9P;o::sqth Oifice o= roximetely two years ago. rho ::-,-.o-ion. to have :1 vorx #39;J17C6.HH§a»nd m reoezneolleryd - 92#391;1. -#ti3- i91n;#0!13 r91;*|i=1#9-32x9d;0#a 3cL#h9»3l;r- 9oI:;s ..smoTdrh_ i1s-n 23 W0- 0#-359;38-n= 11-uscod# 39;0 i0n:.-ro oi 0. L1#39;L:1lU! lcoacmo»p- ed in Palm K Spr.L:a# 3r99;i2l ]stlhi.i o. trailecro mp off iitc we,a fstohuantqd ~u:.d 11.-.#39;w_! irt the oo:#39;1pd1e_p bt-u1t- tor] a[rprc»;#39;.i.matwl;eo1 yya egaor s an jr,:#39;.#39;IEU#39I;m.##3399;o;is{;#i 3J9i ;#scI 3om9nl;dt:inrou#si3ns9g. ;;. tic-ni n an effort to #39; locate =d obtmr n. state.---ut from him-
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As he was in a bhur rey , did not stag - - t_o talk to the other nan but be heard one of them remark that the one i: the rear was certainly rollin, Iast ea as unable to i-dentii#-_ any of the othe mr eni n the grou wpho -::ere#3 J93; troe hpaovre seenthe _ object. Q9#3 t9ate;d that ite as unlik aenyth hine hga edvesrcm I th_at__ hhaeeMAeentry toin c§onvinc hethimats elf it was anoptical III Ar: n O- ; # a3s9; described. See Exhibit -I!. .- . - - . - . - I . . #39;.--- #39 i;t1 # 39#;319;¢#T39;#39 -;-.#.*3_9.;:-:-;#3#93;T f H01 F3-:appears to be intellig aenn idst a rese d soroti . rve person. e was very reluctant to discuss the subject at first and -as appeared hesitant prompted by tho possibilit y tth a he might be ridiculed i Be seemed to be honest and sincere in ut h a he stated he saw, an d s-aid 1#, -3, 9 h t;irs rikl hy a e attaae pcuhzezdl oe.vd -e thr e mat -te A -r. si -g- n setdatembey.n,_,t-.-.,., . 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  • 10. _-92 at 5 u-:,: 1 -!:.= 1 . ;- -r#39;.- -- ,-ill L,._ ei- x _. #3E9-;-_l#39; 1 1 : _ -I #39;3 Q i ¢ r if 92 ll i1A- @- J 4 J 4 7 UI Ir -¢ P a f G J- . ., _@,.- .-; 12 i aas1 #3-992; . -.9v;-. 0 he Ia7:; 92 6$#,_3,9;w; ,¥_-_I Ver tyruly yIo s, 9 I2 V9a2 kw #39;#39; he . R or o cram . _ .._::- ,nQ _ 4e- o#n3,w9;,,b¢ »992.2 EEK #39 ,;_?#3 9#;,3*9-;;»-T=33, Eieheral Bureau n1investigation --#39;.s .5.- , * ınite?! §tatea Bepartment of ilustire . New York, II. Y. #39; IN REPLY H. £AS TO Ill.-I NO._.-.-#39;_._i-_- 5 3 *0- Sentember 4 , 191.7 Director, FBI {92ttenti,on_;___L_a_b?o_raB_,It_oq . Re M: 1-s._ Informant Dear Sir: Q #3 R9e;f erenc ise mad teo ıureau le_tter.r1a,_tgd 2_1_, lJ9u£l.y_ad#d3r9e;s?se, d to Yrs. Hicksv1I[e I 5 Lon. Island 3 New Yor ak c,op oyf 1- w#a s3se9n; thoti tCneh I-e wk Office. 7 Hr .s.#39;. in#t3e9r;vriae bswy SepdecAiaglent on August 12, 191.7, awthich time she advised that this coded message :1 anpeared in Z92Ie1-rsda thye, l ocal newspaper of Nassau and Suffolk County, Long Island, New York. She stated that the message had aopeared in the County Irar itant, feature of this paper, and had been signed Padio Haw. r. ;fews. E#i3e9m;3pas_te Na#d3e,9wY;ro,rk, was interviewed and advi sed that this article hbaeden sent to the newsoaner by letter which was signed Radio Ham, and explained that he had no way of determi tnhien idgenti otyf the writer }..#39;.r.?st tahtae itdt wahsis opinion-_that the code had been made up by some ocal screwball who had been affecte bdy all ofghe newspa ppuebrlicit tyhat had bgeiveenn at that -I time to the story about flyingdiscs. There is enclosed an article appearing in the July 12th issue of I92#39;ew csodnacyerning this coded message, which rbneig rht of interest in this matter. Unless advised to the contrary, no afurthar effort is being; made to establish the -identity of the person who signed himself Radio Ham. I D I ED. Ann scnzznw I sac # I39 / ; -F - an#-.3;9r ; #39;,~ I!-w-._,__ : /__ ,1 agˇul 1u1%; 3R I J thinner»? _» Enc. #39 :;j.a.#39;AJ 62-92 /2 §?__,. , #39;
  • 11. » 1 v. #39;1 92 . ,. , 1-F 3# 39; 5-nu rnoannmu I-4n. #39; #39; - - #39;. #39;.. . 3-. Uˇice Memorandum -UNITE SDT ATGEOSVERNMENT 1: I I. _! .#39;I - 2 -. 1. 1 .-£- -1#39; #39;9#39; S-T4 ti #39;. #39;2 . J_ -1 A ,e;_: 3#.3, 9;? .- -._» #-319;l#-3I 9; ti .. it . _- * = -.2 1 1 92 F_RO:M V :- T0 15011 A. Tu: 1- w c EH1? 955 d9d2it#39;1.. LSIT . . Boson . W863 e we # info - =_*§r5~iin_......._ SUBJEC . L.3.. j-- - -3rumr:.ei You wreillcall that a letter was received from the#39; above captioned individual dated July I0, 19b7, in which she inclosed a newspaper clipping signed qˇadio Ham. This news- mım,- paper clipping contained acoded message which ]L#39;rs._ decoded. The FBI Laboratory checked li#39;rs._l decoding of £ this message and advised that it was substantially correct. The 2! :£an _ .T#a3n9:;. Laboratory#39 d;escoding of the message is being set forth below: . i-.20: Hesse If . I-issHell-#39;j|!.!- TIRED OF HUIHN NCHSEHS $EOHT AJAIT AQCJICJAR DISQUPTIHG GREEK SCLAR SISiEi#39;SOENTIQZIQG #39 D; ISJS AND TILL SET UP JUBLD CEDER UNDER 13212153 Z115 IBIS YEAH. , Th Nee Ywor Okffic wea asske tod intervi .eL .w #39;r 1s,ct;.! determine from what newspaper the clipping in question was obtained. They were further instructed to contact this newspaper in an eˇfort to ascertain the identity of the person who sent in the coded message, ionrder that the person might be interviewed for informationfarncerning tahleleged receipt of the coded message. _ By letter dated September b, 19h , York Qˇfice message Suffolk 7 the New A#39; I ¢l.1#39;_ _L.lL.-,7. }._J ___#39;-_l¢|_l_____ .1n___ II - I .- ; - @41- .,uuuo ocn.u Is-ILL IJLU uUboeroain e]Ta L#43798 w;.Uh.at#39;»1 theC0 .t?Ci had appeared in Newsday, tlhoecal newspaper of Nassau an County, Long Island, New York. The City Editor of this n-ews- paper stated that the original had been signed only Radio Ham and #knew of no way of determining the identity of the writer. It was the _ City Editor#39 o;spinion that the code had been made op by sloocmael screwball#39;wh hoad been affected by aoll ./#the 39; newspaper that hbaeden given to stories concerning flying d Hpublicity iscs. - The the FCC FBI Laboratory has new advised that maintains their amateur records bay gBOgruphiCG1 breakdown as well as bcyall letters and that the Lcaobuoldr atory possibly get the names of all anateurs in the Bellnore, Long Island, New York Section in the event iits desired that another atteqpt be made to identify the person who
  • 12. . 7 _ 1-- ..4_ -_*;|.#-A39,. r;-~ _ L. . - 4 ,# 39;_.#39; Qt#39; 4. #39;-1- . i.._ .:.,. ~ . ~ 3 v_| - -._ I, 1 8. - #39; l-II» . .,__. 4J- i, J,_-1 ei- . -; It : ~;_ 1 i i- 92 J! F n 1.- 3; - A _ #39;. 1!. s-#39; 92 _ 2 1. ,- it- T .-,. r - % #39;E#39; ##3399;;3. 1. L _;r- 1_» 1. .¢1-.. 3 4. - I E; _ -4#39;1 . - -*1 . - 1Y?. 7//z/Y2Flew CO UNT? mn_|1#39;Ara from our Mail Box Coming His 92Vay l92lerrickOul. all day yesterday looking for a house to rent. but no luck. I pot so disgusted I ended up in n tavern and got lit. When I got home and went in the house I SAW FLYING SAUCERS I-N AIR! -No Foolin. Garbics #39; V92#39;eslb9 e2 I.1 l r my- o-B r eRadio Ham#3 m9e;sssage seems to be from some gentleman occupying an Olympian height. As with many of these erudite sthoeu ls, sender can- not resist including a few garbies in his code. Or is our Ham guilty? Here is your message: TIRED OF H-U M A N NONSENSE WONT AWAIT ATOMIC WAR DISTURB- ING SOLAR SYSTEM SO SENT I-LYING DISKS AND WILL SET LIP WORLD UNDER MARTIANS LATE THIS YEAR. --Simp1e transposition. Hope all your readers are appropriately warned. -M-S.t ephen Schuster. Other ungarblers got outlaw A#39;II..AW inst#e3a9d;} of await, isrupting instead of disturb- i g. Miss Rita Flood oPf .t ashinglon expects the wo id -der to be set up under -m t#o3r9.; l s Radio Ham satisıed lIIl1.#39;l E#39;NCLOSUF¬ _?__ 34?_ $j4?#BF-COEDED 15 SEF6 #39; 1
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  • 24. .__ni.,. 1 , -*. 3 1. ~-;j- !92_:I92 4- . _ - M -: _. - -:_, -- I ».- -#399;2:#39; T0 : FROM : A 6 c/ §: gTisgy; é L 0 tlléln Bureacuo tnod uct invetsot idgeateiortnmh ein oer iogfin t hfely ing g9g2T;-OBSERVAT IONS3 . £7. 2 r#9329;92_ oi 92 _- - an 4*; . nfar the Russhiaanvse progrine scseerdta einx perimenwtsh aenthde r msuigcht 3 ._ E5-O #39; -J-L.-i:1#39; #39;*_- T.;¢i1#39; E 92 .-: #39;3-*1 92192a#39; 1 - s.F #39;11 117 o; --;- A 6- -I g it? 5 I 11.24 n . r . i #39; . =3 2 55#39;I#39;.|mnrAonou no.O I _--.,_. _- , #~309ı§;66 ]VI6m01/Z -iUˇdNuImTE SDT ATES covsnnnanr gD. ll. LADD 7%1%!=?:..887°/! . I-1 N1cho#39;TI FIXING SAUCLHS FIX ING DISCS m.=_,__--;_ . Tracy ; Ca-rung ______ 1 ur-#39;1 as-- -~ Marco H.Q...tOE Ptnmngton Reference is made to the memorandumto you frog: the Liaison Section dated July 21, 1947, setting forth a request from Colonel ]l#39;r.#39;Q#39;.:lnn fclo. Boon of the Intelligence oDfi vthiWseio anr Depfoar ttmh?eLhn: tT ;.§§discs. . t It is felt tthhaet situation regarding these flying saucers and flying disis cs vseimryilar to the situation which was previously encountered Icy the Bureau during the past war in handling complaints arising out of the sighting of Japanese baloons. You will recall that at the inception of these complaints the Blreau conducted considerable investigation and located numerous baloons aas cooperative measure for the Arnur and that after considerable work had been done, the Army then informed that these were military weapons and that they wtaokuel d over the handling of these completely. This they did and in an extremely short time issued s big press release as to the splendid work of-the Army i.n locating these Japanese baloons. From the information available thus far, it does not appear that these discs should be treated other than as a ; _ military weapon. Certainly the Bureau has no way to determine what experiments #39; the aAnmdya N rea vcyo annddu cwstihunecght hb meer i agrohisut itn ogf K experiments being conducted btyhem nor do we have any way of determining how i ethe results of experiments bt yhe Russian Army.I t short, it would c¬rtainly appear tthhisa i st amilitarsyi tuations ahnodu ldh abned led st trıyigctly H11# 39;Qt. ;¢,,r v_ _a_u.t h o,_ri ties ____-. -- .a,.n_..- In this connection it might be pointed out that our present Portland case arose out of the fact that two Arnw Intelligence officers were returning __.__._#39;__ffromaonf tinwtoe rivnideiwvi duals who reportedly had seen flying discs. If he Army Intelligence officers are handling some of these interviews, it is be- Flevedth tehya tsb heo uhladan ldl lotinhf ge se intaenr ivitdsi e nwost , beiieved that the Bureau should be expending its precious manpower on these com-plaints which thus far have no connection with our Russian espionage program. T h_e_ -gn##3399;J;l1#3#93; 9n;Hu+.#h3r9;2.#n131~9;9##23399 ;;u9Hf2-.#53 n#93o;#! 9 a3; 19~;99224##a33w99n;;4 .onr H9#23-#93;99#;32 59Y5;99a22-nn##u#3 33 v999a;# ;;nl9 3:9-29A21;- !92-# i-InV13- 99llr92v;2 a}-ru###r 333999;;;]1-9I -2l+C#c93la29-fn;+,+#{, 3~#9l-3;, 91V;-49912253Qˇ-!n19 l-#-2uI3:rs 9.;~** looking for than we are and have more facilities for handling any material which it is necessary to examine as a result of its breipnogrted as aremnant oi a flying disc. It is believed that the Bzreau ismerely playing bird-dog for the Army buysing our manpower to run out these complaints on flying discs. ACTION: #39; Q3R4E QQRDED 463- -1 |p|n1n|I I|iynz -___-, In Voife w the recent Bureau Bulletin #42 dated ıver t-has is attached a letter to the Chicago Office asking tr requested investigation. 3? I .1-92 -up. 0 sunJec#39;r=#39;5
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