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The Things We Think and Do Not Say
Starting Up in Managed Services, from MPS
Greg Walters
Quick Introduction
Shhhhhh…
Let’s Play a GameNot
Say
“Managed Print Services Is Easy”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“Managed Print Services Is Difficult”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“Managed Print Services: A
Completely New Model”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“Managed Print Services: We’ve Got to
Move from Transaction to Services”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“Managed Print Services is a New
Sales Model”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“Managed Print Services can deliver
53% gross margin”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“Managed Print Services:
Change or Die.”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Let’s Reflect…
How do you feel?
Are you Happy?
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Are you thinking about getting into
Managed Services?
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
What about
“Managed Services”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
What is Managed Services?
Open Question…
“The active management and
optimization of technology supporting
the organizations strategic goals…”
???
Same Story
Same game
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“Managed Services Is Easy”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“Managed Services Is Difficult”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“Managed Services: A Completely New
Model”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“Managed Services: We’ve Got to
Move from Transaction to Services”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“Managed Services:
Change or Die.”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Managed Services
and
Managed Print Services
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Why have the VAR’s been so hesitant
in getting into MpS?
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
The problem facing even the leading
managed print vendors is not getting
partners or customers to understand the
model, but demonstrating why a particular
service is different or better than a
competitive offering. – Larry Walsh, Channelnomics, 7/25
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“Solution providers give three main reasons
for not pursuing managed print further: the
investment required to build out a managed
print infrastructure, the risk inherent in
doing so, and the lack of specific printing
industry knowledge in their organizations…”
- Robert Dutt, Channelnomics, 6/11/13
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“The biggest reason it’s difficult to jump into
managed print services or managed services
is because nobody wants to “do”.
-Jennifer Shutwell, Walters & Shutwell, 7/28/13
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“…I receive press releases and communications
from printer companies bragging about their
managed print services businesses. And far too
often, the communications highlight direct sales
engagements with no channel partners
involved. It's as if marketing, PR and the
executive suite don't realize direct sales
messaging will ultimately alienate channel
partners…” – Joe Panettieri, MSPmentor, 7/24/13
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“…I receive press releases and communications
from printer companies bragging about their
managed print services businesses. And far too
often, the communications highlight direct sales
engagements with no channel partners
involved. It's as if marketing, PR and the
executive suite don't realize direct sales
messaging will ultimately alienate channel
partners…” – Joe Panettieri, MSPmentor, 7/24/13
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
“Six in 10 channel firms say incidence of channel
conflict has increased in the last two years; 21%
say it’s risen significantly” – CompTIA, 6/7/2013
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
OH…and they (IT folk) don’t like printers…
• Up to 40% of helpdesk calls are print
related – CDW
• Toner Cartridges
• End Users
• Dirty – Engineers NOT technicians
• Not as Cool as a SAN, WAN, Blade or
Cloud…
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
There is one question, with two sides:
Why haven’t we gotten into MS…?
Why haven’t they gotten into MPS…?
Fear
Dislike
“What is the Model?”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
From the Imaging Industry perspective?
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
High Touch
Fewer Clients
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
High Touch
No “close”
Fewer Clients
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
High Touch
No “close”
Farm AND Hunt, without end
Fewer Clients
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
High Touch
No “close”
Farm AND Hunt, without end
Beyond Relationship into Partnership
Fewer Clients
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Lower Cost
Less Money
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Lower Cost
No equipment quotas
Less Money
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Lower Cost
No equipment quotas
Very Low Overhead
Less Money
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Lower Cost
No equipment quotas
Very Low Overhead
Smaller Tech Team
Less Money
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Lower Cost
No equipment quotas
Very Low Overhead
Smaller Tech Team
Engineers, Projects, Consulting
Less Money
Let’s Reflect…
How are you feeling?
Are you Happy?
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Back to the Question:
What, exactly, is the model?
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Value Prop – Why
Infrastructure – How
Who – You?
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Value Prop – Why
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Strategic Business Partner
Or
Transactional based Vendor
Strategic Business Partner:
Business
Acumen, Empathy, High degree
of qualification
Transactional Vendor:
PPPP or
“Pick, Pack, Ship”, come
one, come all
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Strategic Business Partner:
Free IT from the Mundane
Without taking away control
Not simply allowing IT the time to
be more strategic, but helping IT
be more strategic…
Transactional Vendor:
Provide fast service, delivered
where and when needed at a
competitive price…
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Value Prop – Why
Infrastructure – How
Who – You?
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
E*Automate, SAP, SalesForce, MpS, Etc.
Managed Services Portfolio
Per Seat, CPI, Lease, Incident, monthly.
And Compensation Plan $
Technicians vs. EngineersService
Current
NOC or NOT
Billing
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Infrastructure – How
Value Prop – Why
Infrastructure – How
Who – You?
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Starts here. Set the long term goal and
commit.
Engage from the very beginning and work through
the “it won’t work here” commentary
Per Seat, CPI, Lease, Incident, monthly.
And Compensation Plan $
Evaluate existing team and improve.Service
Ownership
Management
Sales
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Who – You?
Your partners:
Distribution
CompTIA
MPSA
Software
OEM
Local
“Consultations”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Let’s Reflect…
How are you feeling?
Are you Happy?
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
What, if ANYTHING does
this have to do with
managed print services?
“…the active management and
optimization of document output devices
and the related business processes…”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
Document - Email
Output – Bumper stickers to YouTube
Device - Slice of Glass
Remote Monitoring – Lights in a dark room
Remove the tactical – Standard value prop
Workflow/Business Process – “Show me how you…”
The Things We Think And Do Not Say
MS is a similar path to MpS
Infrastructure needs enhancement, not rebuild
Selling is different, but our advantage
Ownership commitment
Expand beyond traditional venues and ideas
The Death of Managed Print Services
One more thing
Convergence
Transformation
The Singularity
Questions? More Information?
Walters & Shutwell Inc.
329 Cathey
Davidson, NC 28036
greg@waltersshutwell.com
Jen@waltersshutwell.com

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Starting Up in Managed Services, from MPS

  • 1. The Things We Think and Do Not Say Starting Up in Managed Services, from MPS Greg Walters
  • 4. “Managed Print Services Is Easy” The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 5. “Managed Print Services Is Difficult” The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 6. “Managed Print Services: A Completely New Model” The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 7. “Managed Print Services: We’ve Got to Move from Transaction to Services” The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 8. “Managed Print Services is a New Sales Model” The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 9. “Managed Print Services can deliver 53% gross margin” The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 10. “Managed Print Services: Change or Die.” The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 11. Let’s Reflect… How do you feel? Are you Happy? The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 12. Are you thinking about getting into Managed Services? The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 13. What about “Managed Services” The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 14. What is Managed Services? Open Question…
  • 15. “The active management and optimization of technology supporting the organizations strategic goals…” ???
  • 16. Same Story Same game The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 17. “Managed Services Is Easy” The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 18. “Managed Services Is Difficult” The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 19. “Managed Services: A Completely New Model” The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 20. “Managed Services: We’ve Got to Move from Transaction to Services” The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 21. “Managed Services: Change or Die.” The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 22. Managed Services and Managed Print Services The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 23. The Things We Think And Do Not Say Why have the VAR’s been so hesitant in getting into MpS?
  • 24. The Things We Think And Do Not Say The problem facing even the leading managed print vendors is not getting partners or customers to understand the model, but demonstrating why a particular service is different or better than a competitive offering. – Larry Walsh, Channelnomics, 7/25
  • 25. The Things We Think And Do Not Say “Solution providers give three main reasons for not pursuing managed print further: the investment required to build out a managed print infrastructure, the risk inherent in doing so, and the lack of specific printing industry knowledge in their organizations…” - Robert Dutt, Channelnomics, 6/11/13
  • 26. The Things We Think And Do Not Say “The biggest reason it’s difficult to jump into managed print services or managed services is because nobody wants to “do”. -Jennifer Shutwell, Walters & Shutwell, 7/28/13
  • 27. The Things We Think And Do Not Say “…I receive press releases and communications from printer companies bragging about their managed print services businesses. And far too often, the communications highlight direct sales engagements with no channel partners involved. It's as if marketing, PR and the executive suite don't realize direct sales messaging will ultimately alienate channel partners…” – Joe Panettieri, MSPmentor, 7/24/13
  • 28. The Things We Think And Do Not Say “…I receive press releases and communications from printer companies bragging about their managed print services businesses. And far too often, the communications highlight direct sales engagements with no channel partners involved. It's as if marketing, PR and the executive suite don't realize direct sales messaging will ultimately alienate channel partners…” – Joe Panettieri, MSPmentor, 7/24/13
  • 29. The Things We Think And Do Not Say “Six in 10 channel firms say incidence of channel conflict has increased in the last two years; 21% say it’s risen significantly” – CompTIA, 6/7/2013
  • 30. The Things We Think And Do Not Say OH…and they (IT folk) don’t like printers… • Up to 40% of helpdesk calls are print related – CDW • Toner Cartridges • End Users • Dirty – Engineers NOT technicians • Not as Cool as a SAN, WAN, Blade or Cloud…
  • 31. The Things We Think And Do Not Say There is one question, with two sides: Why haven’t we gotten into MS…? Why haven’t they gotten into MPS…? Fear Dislike
  • 32. “What is the Model?” The Things We Think And Do Not Say From the Imaging Industry perspective?
  • 33. The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 34. The Things We Think And Do Not Say High Touch Fewer Clients
  • 35. The Things We Think And Do Not Say High Touch No “close” Fewer Clients
  • 36. The Things We Think And Do Not Say High Touch No “close” Farm AND Hunt, without end Fewer Clients
  • 37. The Things We Think And Do Not Say High Touch No “close” Farm AND Hunt, without end Beyond Relationship into Partnership Fewer Clients
  • 38. The Things We Think And Do Not Say Lower Cost Less Money
  • 39. The Things We Think And Do Not Say Lower Cost No equipment quotas Less Money
  • 40. The Things We Think And Do Not Say Lower Cost No equipment quotas Very Low Overhead Less Money
  • 41. The Things We Think And Do Not Say Lower Cost No equipment quotas Very Low Overhead Smaller Tech Team Less Money
  • 42. The Things We Think And Do Not Say Lower Cost No equipment quotas Very Low Overhead Smaller Tech Team Engineers, Projects, Consulting Less Money
  • 43. Let’s Reflect… How are you feeling? Are you Happy? The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 44. Back to the Question: What, exactly, is the model? The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 45. Value Prop – Why Infrastructure – How Who – You? The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 46. Value Prop – Why The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 47. The Things We Think And Do Not Say Strategic Business Partner Or Transactional based Vendor
  • 48. Strategic Business Partner: Business Acumen, Empathy, High degree of qualification Transactional Vendor: PPPP or “Pick, Pack, Ship”, come one, come all The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 49. Strategic Business Partner: Free IT from the Mundane Without taking away control Not simply allowing IT the time to be more strategic, but helping IT be more strategic… Transactional Vendor: Provide fast service, delivered where and when needed at a competitive price… The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 50. Value Prop – Why Infrastructure – How Who – You? The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 51. E*Automate, SAP, SalesForce, MpS, Etc. Managed Services Portfolio Per Seat, CPI, Lease, Incident, monthly. And Compensation Plan $ Technicians vs. EngineersService Current NOC or NOT Billing The Things We Think And Do Not Say Infrastructure – How
  • 52. Value Prop – Why Infrastructure – How Who – You? The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 53. Starts here. Set the long term goal and commit. Engage from the very beginning and work through the “it won’t work here” commentary Per Seat, CPI, Lease, Incident, monthly. And Compensation Plan $ Evaluate existing team and improve.Service Ownership Management Sales The Things We Think And Do Not Say Who – You?
  • 55. Let’s Reflect… How are you feeling? Are you Happy? The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 56. The Things We Think And Do Not Say What, if ANYTHING does this have to do with managed print services?
  • 57. “…the active management and optimization of document output devices and the related business processes…” The Things We Think And Do Not Say
  • 58. The Things We Think And Do Not Say Document - Email Output – Bumper stickers to YouTube Device - Slice of Glass Remote Monitoring – Lights in a dark room Remove the tactical – Standard value prop Workflow/Business Process – “Show me how you…”
  • 59. The Things We Think And Do Not Say MS is a similar path to MpS Infrastructure needs enhancement, not rebuild Selling is different, but our advantage Ownership commitment Expand beyond traditional venues and ideas
  • 60. The Death of Managed Print Services One more thing Convergence Transformation The Singularity
  • 61. Questions? More Information? Walters & Shutwell Inc. 329 Cathey Davidson, NC 28036 greg@waltersshutwell.com Jen@waltersshutwell.com

Notas del editor

  1. ----- Meeting Notes (7/26/13 19:22) -----path of MPS compared to the Path of MS -
  2. Play a little game..I will say a phrase, and you think about it..
  3. We’ve all heard this one -
  4. Let’s stop for a second…take a breath – tell me, how do you fee?
  5. Let’s stop for a second…take a breath – tell me, how do you fee?
  6. Managed Services is typically considered an IT play.
  7. Play a little game..I will say a phrase, and you think about it..
  8. Play a little game..I will say a phrase, and you think about it..
  9. Managed Services is typically considered an IT play.
  10. Two sides of the same coin
  11. In getting into both MS and MPS
  12. Managed Print Services at an Inflection Point – Larry Walsh, ChannelnomicsIDC says managed print services is not only gaining acceptance, but has reached an inflection point.
  13. Channel contention is increasing …a lot. CompTIA study.
  14. ----- Meeting Notes (7/26/13 22:38) -----Channel contention…as spotted by an MSP Guy
  15. ----- Meeting Notes (7/26/13 22:38) -----Channel contention…as spotted by an MSP Guy
  16. 17%, 30% HP – 4 out of 10 or 3 out of ten…?
  17. 17%, 30% HP – 4 out of 10 or 3 out of ten…?
  18. ----- Meeting Notes (7/26/13 22:48) -----Get rid of the fear, see your place, see your model.
  19. What are you thinking now?
  20. ----- Meeting Notes (7/26/13 22:52) -----True relationships - empathy, business acumen positioned as a peer, not a vendor
  21. ----- Meeting Notes (7/26/13 22:52) -----No close in the traditional sense as the selling cycle is continuous…refresh, opportunity for projects, etc
  22. ----- Meeting Notes (7/26/13 22:52) -----New breed of Collabrative Selling Professional who can qualify quickly, be discerning and establish truth
  23. ----- Meeting Notes (7/26/13 22:52) -----Not as much as an individual as a company representative, one who will marshal resources to the business goals of the client -
  24. Let’s stop for a second…take a breath – tell me, how do you fee?
  25. Let’s stop for a second…take a breath – tell me, how do you fee?
  26. Let’s stop for a second…take a breath – tell me, how do you fee?
  27. Let’s stop for a second…take a breath – tell me, how do you fee?
  28. Both models will work.
  29. Both models will work.
  30. Let’s stop for a second…take a breath – tell me, how do you fee?
  31. Assess your existing situation –To buy, merge, partner or build – Billing – from pricing, quoting, to billing and compensationService – existing talent, grow by hiring, training existing, acquiring or partnering
  32. Let’s stop for a second…take a breath – tell me, how do you fee?
  33. Ownership must be aboardManagement, sales, service, operations – all on the same teamSales in the field must buy in, either with the carrot or the stickService – higher level of knowledge and temperament. Most, but not all, will want to enhance their personal, technology skills.
  34. Let’s stop for a second…take a breath – tell me, how do you fee?
  35. Let’s stop for a second…take a breath – tell me, how do you fee?
  36. Good question…let’s go back… parallel existence
  37. Let’s stop for a second…take a breath – tell me, how do you fee?
  38. Good question…let’s go back..
  39. Good question…let’s go back..
  40. Ultimately – everything will be different – the internet of everything. All people are connected, not by paper – or the presented word