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“Annihilation”
BY STEVEN LUPER
PHIL. OF DEATH AND DYING
FALL 2012-ELI WEBER
3 Components

 What a person would have to be like in order
  to adopt the Epicurean view of death

 Why this isn’t the sort of person anyone
  would want to be

 What’s right about the Epicurean view
Shared Assumptions

 Death is a kind of non-existence.


 Distinction between whether being dead is
  bad, as opposed to the moment of death or
  the process of dying.
What Makes Death Bad for Us?

 A state of affairs is bad for us if it thwarts our
  desires.

 So death is bad for us because it thwarts our
  desires.

 An advantage: Allows that in some cases,
  death isn’t bad for us, because it doesn’t
  thwart any of our desires.
What are Epicureans like?

 Epicureans can have:

1. Escape desires-desires that under certain
   conditions, I would be dead

2. Independent desires-desires the satisfaction of
   which are unaffected by what I do (or fail to do)

3. Conditional desires-desires I have only on the
   condition that I am alive
What are Epicureans like?

 Epicureans cannot have:


1. Unconditional desires –desires which I have
   irrespective of whether I am alive to see
   them satisfied.
2. Fulfilling desires-desires the satisfaction of
   which make life meaningful or enjoyable
What are Epicureans like?

1. If Epicureans have fulfilling desires that
  death would thwart, they must think death is
  a misfortune.
2. Epicureans don’t think death is a misfortune.
3. Therefore, Epicureans don’t have any
    fulfilling desires.

The Epicurean indifference to death requires an
   indifference to life that isn’t very appealing.
Is Epicureanism a Life Worth
Living?


 Can still be motivated by their conditional
  desires

 Can still disapprove of wrongful killing


 Reasonable to modify desires to make
  inevitable consequences less bad for you
Is Epicureanism a Life Worth
Living?

 Any good reason to not die is a good reason to live.

 Epicureans must avoid desires that give good
  reasons to not die.

 In doing so, they also avoid desires that give good
  reasons to live.

 Must also avoid any activities that would be “too”
  enjoyable.
What’s Right about Epicureanism

 We shouldn’t expect to live longer than a
  normal human lifespan.

 Our desires should reflect this unavoidable
  fact.

 As death draws nearer, we should modify our
  desires so that it isn’t bad for us.
Summary

1. We should not be indifferent about death.
   Insofar as death thwarts our desires, it is bad for
   us.

2. We should not want to be the sorts of people
   who are indifferent to death. This requires that
   we are indifferent to living.

3. Given the inevitability of death, it makes sense
   to “Epicureanize” our desires so that they can
   be fulfilled within a normal human lifespan, and
   conditionalized at the end of life.
Critical Comments

 Luper’s view allows that things can be bad for
  us long after we are dead, and without our
  knowing about them.

 Are conditionalized desires really so bad?

 Luper’s entire argument turns on his
  insistence that the Epicurean must think
  premature death is bad, which they might
  simply deny.
You still need to…

 Take the reading quiz, if you haven’t already
  done it.

 Do the assignment, which is due by Friday at
  5pm.

 Complete the survey.

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Is Death Bad for the One Who Dies?: Annihilation by Steven Luper

  • 1. “Annihilation” BY STEVEN LUPER PHIL. OF DEATH AND DYING FALL 2012-ELI WEBER
  • 2. 3 Components  What a person would have to be like in order to adopt the Epicurean view of death  Why this isn’t the sort of person anyone would want to be  What’s right about the Epicurean view
  • 3. Shared Assumptions  Death is a kind of non-existence.  Distinction between whether being dead is bad, as opposed to the moment of death or the process of dying.
  • 4. What Makes Death Bad for Us?  A state of affairs is bad for us if it thwarts our desires.  So death is bad for us because it thwarts our desires.  An advantage: Allows that in some cases, death isn’t bad for us, because it doesn’t thwart any of our desires.
  • 5. What are Epicureans like?  Epicureans can have: 1. Escape desires-desires that under certain conditions, I would be dead 2. Independent desires-desires the satisfaction of which are unaffected by what I do (or fail to do) 3. Conditional desires-desires I have only on the condition that I am alive
  • 6. What are Epicureans like?  Epicureans cannot have: 1. Unconditional desires –desires which I have irrespective of whether I am alive to see them satisfied. 2. Fulfilling desires-desires the satisfaction of which make life meaningful or enjoyable
  • 7. What are Epicureans like? 1. If Epicureans have fulfilling desires that death would thwart, they must think death is a misfortune. 2. Epicureans don’t think death is a misfortune. 3. Therefore, Epicureans don’t have any fulfilling desires. The Epicurean indifference to death requires an indifference to life that isn’t very appealing.
  • 8. Is Epicureanism a Life Worth Living?  Can still be motivated by their conditional desires  Can still disapprove of wrongful killing  Reasonable to modify desires to make inevitable consequences less bad for you
  • 9. Is Epicureanism a Life Worth Living?  Any good reason to not die is a good reason to live.  Epicureans must avoid desires that give good reasons to not die.  In doing so, they also avoid desires that give good reasons to live.  Must also avoid any activities that would be “too” enjoyable.
  • 10. What’s Right about Epicureanism  We shouldn’t expect to live longer than a normal human lifespan.  Our desires should reflect this unavoidable fact.  As death draws nearer, we should modify our desires so that it isn’t bad for us.
  • 11. Summary 1. We should not be indifferent about death. Insofar as death thwarts our desires, it is bad for us. 2. We should not want to be the sorts of people who are indifferent to death. This requires that we are indifferent to living. 3. Given the inevitability of death, it makes sense to “Epicureanize” our desires so that they can be fulfilled within a normal human lifespan, and conditionalized at the end of life.
  • 12. Critical Comments  Luper’s view allows that things can be bad for us long after we are dead, and without our knowing about them.  Are conditionalized desires really so bad?  Luper’s entire argument turns on his insistence that the Epicurean must think premature death is bad, which they might simply deny.
  • 13. You still need to…  Take the reading quiz, if you haven’t already done it.  Do the assignment, which is due by Friday at 5pm.  Complete the survey.