The document contains comments from readers of a Smashing Magazine article on CSS3. The readers express hesitation to use CSS3 due to lack of browser support but also excitement for its possibilities. One argues for embracing differences in browsers rather than trying to make experiences consistent. Another says they will have to wait years before clients catch up to fully use CSS3.
4. “ ”
Great article, thanks but I think I’ll wait until
most of the browsers support CSS3 totally to
develop websites for my clients.
Comments from Smashing Magazine readers on j.mp/smashingcss3
5. “ ”
I hope CSS3 will be a standard in the near
future; right now you cant really use anything
of it ’cause not every browser supports it.
Comments from Smashing Magazine readers on j.mp/smashingcss3
6. “
CSS 3 rocks. Unfortunately we need to stay at
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least 5 more years with CSS 2.1 if we want to
offer the same design to each user (which in
most ‘commercial’ projects is necessary).
Comments from Smashing Magazine readers on j.mp/smashingcss3
7. “
I can’t wait to use CSS3 in a real project.
Unfortunately I’m going to be stuck with
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things as they are for the time being as I wait
for my clients to catch up. I expect this will be
the case for most designers for the time being.
Comments from Smashing Magazine readers on j.mp/smashingcss3
8. “ ”
CSS3 looks really good however because of IE
it will be long time before I start using it.
Comments from Smashing Magazine readers on j.mp/smashingcss3
19. Progressive means progressive
Fall-back solutions (JS on and off?)
Enhancements only become features when the
majority of users are experiencing them
Use progressive enrichment in your dull, corporate sites
— the sexy stuff is an add-on, so it’s fine!
22. Do websites need to look
exactly the same in
every browser?
Websites will never look consistent across all browsers
23. Do websites need to look
exactly the same in
every browser?
Websites will never look consistent across all browsers
Rendering engines, operating systems, and user-specific
variables like screen settings and resolution will always
stand in the way
24. Jon Tan:
“
Designers will use [technologies like Flash, PDF,
and hacks like embedding type in images] [...]
because they won’t have to deal with painful
inconsistencies between user agents; the bane
”
of the browser wars, and in this instance, the
bane of web typography in what seems like
the age of the raster wars.
Display Type & the Raster Wars j.mp/jontan
25. Bookmark these URLs
Jon Tan: Web Typography tag jontangerine.com/log/tag/web-typography
Web Typography (Richard Rutter) webtypography.net
26. Do websites need to look
exactly the same in
every browser?
Websites will never look consistent across all browsers
Rendering engines, operating systems, and user-specific
variables like screen settings and resolution will always
stand in the way
So stop trying to reach the unreachable!
Embrace the differences
31. The experience
Beauty is the experience’s visual layer
Visually pleasing layer = more fulfilling user experience
32. The experience
Beauty is the experience’s visual layer
Visually pleasing layer = more fulfilling user experience
Functionality leads to usage; aesthetics lead to emotion
33. The experience
Beauty is the experience’s visual layer
Visually pleasing layer = more fulfilling user experience
Functionality leads to usage; aesthetics lead to emotion
The experience layer
34. The experience
Beauty is the experience’s visual layer
Visually pleasing layer = more fulfilling user experience
Functionality leads to usage; aesthetics lead to emotion
The experience layer
(See Dan Mall’s FOWD presentation:
events.carsonified.com/fowd/2008/newyork/videos/dan-mall/)
35. The experience layer
“
Our emotions change the way we think
”
and serve as constant guides to appropriate
behaviour, steering us away from the bad
and guiding us towards the good.
Donald Norman, Emotional Design
49. Who’s pushing things forward?
Tim Van Damme, Made By Elephant
Mike Kus, Carsonified
Miguel Ripoll, Cesser Digital
Jason Santa Maria
Matthew Smith, Squared Eye
50. Who’s pushing things forward?
Tim Van Damme, Made By Elephant
Mike Kus, Carsonified
Miguel Ripoll, Cesser Digital
Jason Santa Maria
Matthew Smith, Squared Eye
55. Who’s pushing things forward?
Tim Van Damme, Made By Elephant
Mike Kus, Carsonified
Miguel Ripoll, Cesser Digital
Jason Santa Maria
Matthew Smith, Squared Eye
58. Who’s pushing things forward?
Tim Van Damme, Made By Elephant
Mike Kus, Carsonified
Miguel Ripoll, Cesser Digital
Jason Santa Maria
Matthew Smith, Squared Eye
60. Who’s pushing things forward?
Tim Van Damme, Made By Elephant
Mike Kus, Carsonified
Miguel Ripoll, Cesser Digital
Jason Santa Maria
Matthew Smith, Squared Eye
62. Who’s pushing things forward?
Tim Van Damme, Made By Elephant
Mike Kus, Carsonified
Miguel Ripoll, Cesser Digital
Jason Santa Maria
Matthew Smith, Squared Eye
70. The nicer your site looks...
... the longer your visitors will look at it...
71. The nicer your site looks...
... the longer your visitors will look at it...
... the longer your visitors look at it, the longer they’ll
spend on your website...
72. The nicer your site looks...
... the longer your visitors will look at it...
... the longer your visitors look at it, the longer they’ll
spend on your website...
... and the longer they spend on your website, the easier
it will be for you to sell them your product or service
73. Web design, for me, is
predominantly full of boring,
unimaginative work.
Let’s change that.
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81. The CSS3 Validator could offer the option to ignore
vendor specific extensions
Validator suggestions css3.info/the-big-css3-validation-debate/
82. The CSS3 Validator could offer the option to ignore
vendor specific extensions
The CSS3 Validator could highlight vendor specific
extensions with a warning, rather than an error
Validator suggestions css3.info/the-big-css3-validation-debate/
83. The CSS3 Validator could offer the option to ignore
vendor specific extensions
The CSS3 Validator could highlight vendor specific
extensions with a warning, rather than an error
The validator could mark such code as
‘experimental’ rather than an error or warning
Validator suggestions css3.info/the-big-css3-validation-debate/
84. Yes, yes. Bear with me...
New techniques won’t validate...
... and it doesn’t matter!
85. Yes, yes. Bear with me...
New techniques won’t validate...
... and it doesn’t matter!
Know that you can break the rules
90. Yes, yes. Bear with me...
New techniques won’t validate...
... and it doesn’t matter!
Know that you can break the rules
Validation does not equal conformity to Web Standards:
you can build a site with tables and a complete lack of
semantics yet still have it validate
102. We’re looking at it in
the wrong way
“We can’t ensure that all users get the same experience.”
// negative
103. We’re looking at it in
the wrong way
“We can’t ensure that all users get the same experience.”
// negative
“We can add further enhancements above the norm.”
// positive
104. We’re looking at it in
the wrong way
“We can’t ensure that all users get the same experience.”
// negative
“We can add further enhancements above the norm.”
// positive
The flexibility the web offers is a blessing, not a curse
105. We’re looking at it in
the wrong way
“We can’t ensure that all users get the same experience.”
// negative
“We can add further enhancements above the norm.”
// positive
The flexibility the web offers is a blessing, not a curse
Ensure a good experience for most; a great one for some
106. It’s not just about
making things look pretty.
Forward-thinking code means
a future-proof website.
108. 10% of users today will be
100% of users tomorrow
109. 10% of users today will be
100% of users tomorrow
The amount of people who see your enrichments
might seem small right now, but that number
will only grow, not decline
112. My site before Firefox 3.5 (no @font-face support) elliotjaystocks.com
113. My site after Firefox 3.5 (with @font-face support) elliotjaystocks.com
114. 10% of users today will be
100% of users tomorrow
The amount of people who see your enrichments
might seem small right now, but that number
will only grow, not decline
It’s our duty to push forward-thinking development;
to make the most of the tools made available to us
and our users
115. 10% of users today will be
100% of users tomorrow
The amount of people who see your enrichments
might seem small right now, but that number
will only grow, not decline
It’s our duty to push forward-thinking development;
to make the most of the tools made available to us
and our users
New CSS techniques will never become mainstream
if we designers aren’t using them
117. All the small things
CSS2.1 / CSS3 etc. allows you to write less code, speeds
up development time, and generally makes life easier
118. All the small things
CSS2.1 / CSS3 etc. allows you to write less code, speeds
up development time, and generally makes life easier
Consider attribute selectors
119. <ul class="blogroll">
<li>
<a href="http://shauninman.com">Shaun Inman</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="http://mezzoblue.com">Dave Shea</a>
</li>
<li>
<a href="http://hicksdesign.co.uk">Jon Hicks</a>
</li>
</ul>
HTML with no need for class names on each <li>
121. All the small things
CSS2.1 / CSS3 etc. allows you to write less code, speeds
up development time, and generally makes life easier
Consider attribute selectors
Consider nth-child selectors
123. All the small things
CSS2.1 / CSS3 etc. allows you to write less code, speeds
up development time, and generally makes life easier
Consider attribute selectors
Consider nth-child selectors
And if a browser doesn’t support these things...
... so what?
127. Progressive
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Favoring or advocating progress, change,
improvement, or reform, as opposed to
wishing to maintain things as they are.
dictionary.reference.com/browse/progressive