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Commercial property assessment:
is a rational discussion possible?
Lenny Goldberg
California Tax Reform Association
www.caltaxreform.org
California Apartment Owners Association
A flawed system
 Bad economics: we tax new investment heavily

and fail to tax windfall land rents—the opposite of
sound economics
 Loophole-ridden law: easy to avoid reassessment, particularly on land; incredibly
complex enforcement and law.
 Land use impacted negatively: increases price
of land, promotes speculation
 Failed fiscal policy: fails to fund
infrastructure, detaches revenues from economic
growth, burden shift to residential property
The law: ships in the night
 Complexity of property holding: llc’s,

partnerships, sub S, publicly-traded, reits, ipo’s,
etc
 Purpose of organization: capitalization, liquidity,
income or corporate tax benefits
 Change of ownership: difficult to define and
enforce, no relationship between assessed value
and capital structure, “ships in the night”
Dell Exploits the Purchase
loophole

Current law allows
businesses to sidestep
reassessment if no one
acquires a majority stake in
a company that owns the
property
Bad for New Investment(!)
 Increases land costs—primary area of California





non-competitiveness
New investor pays tax on full value of land,
buildings
Yearly property tax on business equipment (aka
business personal property tax)
Fees, exactions, mitigations: negative regulatory
climate
Failure to cover costs of infrastructure
Flawed fiscal and land use policy
 Failure to keep up with economic growth
 Shifts burden to residential property
 Fails to fund infrastructure—short-circuits the

virtuous cycle of infrastructure investment
 Promotes speculation and sprawl—no cost of
retaining land, holding it off market
Burden shift to residential property in
55 of 58 counties
Los Angeles County
Residential vs. Non-Residential Property

Residential %

80.00%

Non-Residential %

75.55%
69.96%

70.00%
62.67%

60.52%

62.45%

64.81%

69.09%

66.20%

60.00%
53.37%
50.00%

46.63%

40.00%

37.33%

39.48%

37.55%

35.19%

33.80%
30.04%

30.91%

30.00%
24.45%
20.00%

10.00%

0.00%
1975

1980

1985

1990

1995

2000

2005

2009

2011-2012
Numbers from Los Angeles
San Francisco County
Residential vs. Non-Residential Property
Residential %

Non-Residential %

80%
73.16%
70%
63%

61%
60%

68%

67%

65%

58%

56%

54%

54%

50%

44%

42%

46%

46%
39%

40%

37%

35%

33%

30%

32%
26.84%

20%

10%

0%
1974-1975

1980-1981

1985-1986

1990-1991

1999-2000

2005-2006

2007-2008

2009-2010

2011-2012

2012-2013
The evidence
 Primary differences are in LAND VALUE, not buildings (50x vs.

3x)
 Why? Buildings reassessed when improved, land holdings held

forever, or in different arrangements
 Shift to residential, including non-HOE single family homes, in

most counties since 1978
 2008 crisis slowed the trend but did not reverse it

 Already have a “split roll”
 State-assessed vs. county assessed
 Timber yield vs. complex (and nonsensical) oil valuations
 Business equipment (aka personal property) at full market value:

small business, high-tech tax
 Buildings reassessed upon improvement, land not
 Simple system for homeowners, complex rules for “legal entities”
Thought experiment: “Smart Roll”
 Tax windfalls, not new investment: basic principle





of economics, conservative or liberal
Reassess commercial land on periodic basis
Eliminate business equipment tax (aka personal
property tax)
Phase-ins, examine equity issues
Best tax: land value only
 Every economist would agree
 Take tax off new investment to extent possible

(buildings?)
 Easy to implement, good economics, captures

benefits of growth, finances infrastructure
Is a rational discussion possible?
 Empirical: analyze benefits and costs of different

approaches to solving these problems
 Fiscal policy: Revenues and offsets
 Allocation: cities, counties, schools, special
districts, community colleges, infrastructure—
currently a mess, can change be discussed?
(CaForward)
 Since the issue is going to become more
prominent, will business groups join a
conversation?

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Ca apartmentowners11.14.13

  • 1. Commercial property assessment: is a rational discussion possible? Lenny Goldberg California Tax Reform Association www.caltaxreform.org California Apartment Owners Association
  • 2. A flawed system  Bad economics: we tax new investment heavily and fail to tax windfall land rents—the opposite of sound economics  Loophole-ridden law: easy to avoid reassessment, particularly on land; incredibly complex enforcement and law.  Land use impacted negatively: increases price of land, promotes speculation  Failed fiscal policy: fails to fund infrastructure, detaches revenues from economic growth, burden shift to residential property
  • 3. The law: ships in the night  Complexity of property holding: llc’s, partnerships, sub S, publicly-traded, reits, ipo’s, etc  Purpose of organization: capitalization, liquidity, income or corporate tax benefits  Change of ownership: difficult to define and enforce, no relationship between assessed value and capital structure, “ships in the night”
  • 4. Dell Exploits the Purchase loophole Current law allows businesses to sidestep reassessment if no one acquires a majority stake in a company that owns the property
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  • 8. Bad for New Investment(!)  Increases land costs—primary area of California     non-competitiveness New investor pays tax on full value of land, buildings Yearly property tax on business equipment (aka business personal property tax) Fees, exactions, mitigations: negative regulatory climate Failure to cover costs of infrastructure
  • 9. Flawed fiscal and land use policy  Failure to keep up with economic growth  Shifts burden to residential property  Fails to fund infrastructure—short-circuits the virtuous cycle of infrastructure investment  Promotes speculation and sprawl—no cost of retaining land, holding it off market
  • 10. Burden shift to residential property in 55 of 58 counties
  • 11. Los Angeles County Residential vs. Non-Residential Property Residential % 80.00% Non-Residential % 75.55% 69.96% 70.00% 62.67% 60.52% 62.45% 64.81% 69.09% 66.20% 60.00% 53.37% 50.00% 46.63% 40.00% 37.33% 39.48% 37.55% 35.19% 33.80% 30.04% 30.91% 30.00% 24.45% 20.00% 10.00% 0.00% 1975 1980 1985 1990 1995 2000 2005 2009 2011-2012
  • 12. Numbers from Los Angeles
  • 13. San Francisco County Residential vs. Non-Residential Property Residential % Non-Residential % 80% 73.16% 70% 63% 61% 60% 68% 67% 65% 58% 56% 54% 54% 50% 44% 42% 46% 46% 39% 40% 37% 35% 33% 30% 32% 26.84% 20% 10% 0% 1974-1975 1980-1981 1985-1986 1990-1991 1999-2000 2005-2006 2007-2008 2009-2010 2011-2012 2012-2013
  • 14. The evidence  Primary differences are in LAND VALUE, not buildings (50x vs. 3x)  Why? Buildings reassessed when improved, land holdings held forever, or in different arrangements  Shift to residential, including non-HOE single family homes, in most counties since 1978  2008 crisis slowed the trend but did not reverse it  Already have a “split roll”  State-assessed vs. county assessed  Timber yield vs. complex (and nonsensical) oil valuations  Business equipment (aka personal property) at full market value: small business, high-tech tax  Buildings reassessed upon improvement, land not  Simple system for homeowners, complex rules for “legal entities”
  • 15. Thought experiment: “Smart Roll”  Tax windfalls, not new investment: basic principle     of economics, conservative or liberal Reassess commercial land on periodic basis Eliminate business equipment tax (aka personal property tax) Phase-ins, examine equity issues Best tax: land value only  Every economist would agree  Take tax off new investment to extent possible (buildings?)  Easy to implement, good economics, captures benefits of growth, finances infrastructure
  • 16. Is a rational discussion possible?  Empirical: analyze benefits and costs of different approaches to solving these problems  Fiscal policy: Revenues and offsets  Allocation: cities, counties, schools, special districts, community colleges, infrastructure— currently a mess, can change be discussed? (CaForward)  Since the issue is going to become more prominent, will business groups join a conversation?

Notas del editor

  1. the law allows businesses to sidestep reassessment if no one acquires a majority stake in a company that owns the property. Dell did that by bringing in his wife and two of his investment advisors as partners — with no one taking more than 49% control of the hotel company. With no change in ownership, it continued to be taxed based on the 1999 property value of $86 million.Responding to a Los Angeles Times story that ran Sunday, the presidents of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Assn. and theSmall Business Action Committee said they would be open to narrow legislation to fix the law, which appears to allow such deals.