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I’m a UX Designer – and I’m an SEO:
  Working Together to Heal the Rift
    Between Customers and the
     Marketers Who Love Them


      Erin Hawk (Team UX at REI): @erinhawk
   Jonathon Colman (Team SEO at REI): @jcolman

            Slideshow available for download:
                http://slidesha.re/ux-seo
Let’s learn about you
with a quick survey…
                        Photo © Flickr user omarhabayeb, flickr.com/photos/omarhabayeb
Our question: Can UX and
SEO be like chocolate and
     peanut butter?




                            Photo © Flickr user jamieanne, flickr.com/photos/jamieanne
Top 5 UX design myths
      about SEO
                  Photo © Flickr user LVCHEN, flickr.com/photos/yungyeh
Myth: SEO is SPAM.


          Photo © Flickr user OCReactive, flickr.com/photos/ocreactive
Reality: SEO is
relevancy marketing.




                       Photo © Flickr user jmsvuk, flickr.com/photos/jmsvuk
Yep, it’s this one.




                      It’s just one tool
                         in your belt.
                          Photo © Flickr user herzogbr, flickr.com/photos/herzogbr
High search rank correlates with
  high traffic and conversion.
                    Source: The Atlas Rank Report: How Search Engine Rank Impacts Traffic
Myth: Design is for
people, not robots.




                      Photo © Flickr user mringseis, flickr.com/photos/mringseis
Reality: Search engines are
consumers of your content, too.

               Photo © Flickr user H Brown, flickr.com/photos/heathercbrown
…and people rely on robots
  as wayfinding agents.




                       Tip: We prefer City O’ City
                       coffee at 206 E. 13th Ave.


                                 Photo © Flickr user ebatty, flickr.com/photos/ebatty
Myth: SEO seems
filled with secrets
  and mysteries.



                      Photo © Flickr user JK Mallory, flickr.com/photos/41499497@N06
Reality: So is any discipline…
when seen from the outside.




                  Photo © Flickr user Alegrya, flickr.com/photos/alegrya
SEOs are not gurus; they’re
just practitioners. Like you!

                           Photo © Flickr user mrbenjamin, flickr.com/photos/25199042@N06
…and SEO works best when
it’s built-in to the experience.
                Photo © Flickr user Jonesemyr, flickr.com/photos/47557199@N03
Myth: SEO is about
text, not design or IA.




          Photo © Flickr user jcolman, flickr.com/photos/jcolman
Let’s look at a
product page…
Text is clearly an
important part of
  the experience
 for humans and
 search engines.
…but how did they
           find that product?




Design and architecture affect
 humans and search engines.
Reality: SEO is all about IA, taxonomy, ops,
analytics, infrastructure, relationships… UX!
                          Photo © Flickr user temposmodernos, flickr.com/photos/50806803@N08
Myth: I can rely on
advertising for traffic.




                           Photo © Flickr user s.urich, flickr.com/photos/urichsj
Reality: Paid Search CPC
increases ≈30% each year.
  Does your ad budget?
Reality: If SEO isn’t at least 50%
of your traffic, it’s still growing.
Top 5 SEO myths
about UX design
                  Photo © Flickr user LVCHEN, flickr.com/photos/yungyeh
Myth: You can’t truly
measure “experience”.




                        Photo © Flickr user undoneclothing, flickr.com/photos/undoneclothing
Reality: UX has many
tools for measurement.
       Photo © Flickr user Winter Bicycles, flickr.com/photos/22538785@N05
Myth: You can’t
tie UX to profits.

 Photo © Flickr user mickwatson, flickr.com/photos/mickwatson
Reality: Oh yes you can!




                                                                                                  40


                  (Roughly $76,000/month!)

            Image by Dr. Susan Weinschenk © Human Factors International, Inc., http://www.humanfactors.com/ROIposter.asp
                                                                  Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O94kYyzqvTc
Myth: Search solves all
your navigation issues.
            Photo © Flickr user refmo, flickr.com/photos/refmo
Reality: Users often don’t
know what they don’t know.
                    And that’s OK!

                        Photo © Flickr user zert.sonstige_2008, flickr.com/photos/32552054@N04
…which is why we
…because learning and refining                                                 need to support
                                                                                both browsing
  is part of their experience.                                                  and searching.
               Marcia J. Bates: The Design of Browsing and Berrypicking Techniques for the Online Search Interface
                                                             http://gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/bates/berrypicking.html
Myth: I already
know our customers!




             Photo © Flickr user coblat, flickr.com/photos/coblat
OK, so which
 one am I?




                Reality: You don’t know Jack.
               Or Jill! Until you talk to Jill. And
                 other Jills who are like her.
                                   Photo © Flickr user MeFind, flickr.com/photos/mefind
Myth: The user’s
feelings don’t matter.




       Photo © Flickr user wishardofoz, flickr.com/photos/wishardofoz
Which one of these
people will come back?
 Or recommend you?




              Reality: Satisfied customers
                  are loyal, long-term
                shoppers and referrers.
                           Photo © Flickr user lunaciel, flickr.com/photos/lunaciel
Actually, the user
 doesn’t matter.




                     Photo © Flickr user yubyungman, flickr.com/photos/yubyungman
Reality: Search engines can’t
  buy anything from you.
           Photo © Flickr user largeprime, flickr.com/photos/largeprimenumber
Group exercise:
Can UX and SEO
work together?




     Photo © Flickr user usnavynvns, flickr.com/photos/usnavynvns
Scenario: This is a product users
like. REI ranks well for its name.
       And it drives traffic.
When customers click
on the search result,
 they get a “Product
 Unavailable” page.
Guess what? We have a newer
version of this product in stock!




         But it’s located at a different URL
         that does not rank well in search.
What would YOU do?


                 Split into two teams…

        Team UX:                       Team SEO:
What would you do to reduce         What would you do to
bounce rate on the old jacket   improve findability and drive
 and improve conversion for      traffic to the new version of
      the new version?                     the jacket?



                                        Photo © Flickr user Colin_K, flickr.com/photos/colinkinner
Nice work!
This stormtrooper
demands that you
    hug it out.




Photo © Flickr user balkov, flickr.com/photos/balakov
So... Can we make UX and SEO be
like chocolate and peanut butter?


                          Photo © Flickr user jamieanne, flickr.com/photos/jamieanne
Photo © Flickr user let5ch, flickr.com/photos/letscher
Photo © Flickr user Rajiv Patel, flickr.com/photos/23679420@N00
Want more SEO/UX tools?
Get 90+ hand-curated articles and resources at:
                       _
  www.delicious.com/seo_ux
                                      Photo © Flickr user Noel C. Hankamer, flickr.com/photos/nhankamer
Erin Hawk:
                   UX @ REI
                   Twitter @erinhawk

                   Jonathon Colman:
                   SEO @ REI
                   Twitter @jcolman




Graphic © Flickr user Jesse Fletcher, flickr.com/photos/jaxsilver

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SEO and UX Working Together Are Like Chocolate and Peanut Butter

  • 1. Photo © Flickr user LVCHEN, flickr.com/photos/yungyeh
  • 2. I’m a UX Designer – and I’m an SEO: Working Together to Heal the Rift Between Customers and the Marketers Who Love Them Erin Hawk (Team UX at REI): @erinhawk Jonathon Colman (Team SEO at REI): @jcolman Slideshow available for download: http://slidesha.re/ux-seo
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  • 4. Let’s learn about you with a quick survey… Photo © Flickr user omarhabayeb, flickr.com/photos/omarhabayeb
  • 5. Our question: Can UX and SEO be like chocolate and peanut butter? Photo © Flickr user jamieanne, flickr.com/photos/jamieanne
  • 6. Top 5 UX design myths about SEO Photo © Flickr user LVCHEN, flickr.com/photos/yungyeh
  • 7. Myth: SEO is SPAM. Photo © Flickr user OCReactive, flickr.com/photos/ocreactive
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  • 9. Reality: SEO is relevancy marketing. Photo © Flickr user jmsvuk, flickr.com/photos/jmsvuk
  • 10. Yep, it’s this one. It’s just one tool in your belt. Photo © Flickr user herzogbr, flickr.com/photos/herzogbr
  • 11. High search rank correlates with high traffic and conversion. Source: The Atlas Rank Report: How Search Engine Rank Impacts Traffic
  • 12. Myth: Design is for people, not robots. Photo © Flickr user mringseis, flickr.com/photos/mringseis
  • 13. Reality: Search engines are consumers of your content, too. Photo © Flickr user H Brown, flickr.com/photos/heathercbrown
  • 14. …and people rely on robots as wayfinding agents. Tip: We prefer City O’ City coffee at 206 E. 13th Ave. Photo © Flickr user ebatty, flickr.com/photos/ebatty
  • 15. Myth: SEO seems filled with secrets and mysteries. Photo © Flickr user JK Mallory, flickr.com/photos/41499497@N06
  • 16. Reality: So is any discipline… when seen from the outside. Photo © Flickr user Alegrya, flickr.com/photos/alegrya
  • 17. SEOs are not gurus; they’re just practitioners. Like you! Photo © Flickr user mrbenjamin, flickr.com/photos/25199042@N06
  • 18. …and SEO works best when it’s built-in to the experience. Photo © Flickr user Jonesemyr, flickr.com/photos/47557199@N03
  • 19. Myth: SEO is about text, not design or IA. Photo © Flickr user jcolman, flickr.com/photos/jcolman
  • 20. Let’s look at a product page…
  • 21. Text is clearly an important part of the experience for humans and search engines.
  • 22. …but how did they find that product? Design and architecture affect humans and search engines.
  • 23. Reality: SEO is all about IA, taxonomy, ops, analytics, infrastructure, relationships… UX! Photo © Flickr user temposmodernos, flickr.com/photos/50806803@N08
  • 24. Myth: I can rely on advertising for traffic. Photo © Flickr user s.urich, flickr.com/photos/urichsj
  • 25. Reality: Paid Search CPC increases ≈30% each year. Does your ad budget?
  • 26. Reality: If SEO isn’t at least 50% of your traffic, it’s still growing.
  • 27. Top 5 SEO myths about UX design Photo © Flickr user LVCHEN, flickr.com/photos/yungyeh
  • 28. Myth: You can’t truly measure “experience”. Photo © Flickr user undoneclothing, flickr.com/photos/undoneclothing
  • 29. Reality: UX has many tools for measurement. Photo © Flickr user Winter Bicycles, flickr.com/photos/22538785@N05
  • 30. Myth: You can’t tie UX to profits. Photo © Flickr user mickwatson, flickr.com/photos/mickwatson
  • 31. Reality: Oh yes you can! 40 (Roughly $76,000/month!) Image by Dr. Susan Weinschenk © Human Factors International, Inc., http://www.humanfactors.com/ROIposter.asp Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O94kYyzqvTc
  • 32. Myth: Search solves all your navigation issues. Photo © Flickr user refmo, flickr.com/photos/refmo
  • 33. Reality: Users often don’t know what they don’t know. And that’s OK! Photo © Flickr user zert.sonstige_2008, flickr.com/photos/32552054@N04
  • 34. …which is why we …because learning and refining need to support both browsing is part of their experience. and searching. Marcia J. Bates: The Design of Browsing and Berrypicking Techniques for the Online Search Interface http://gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/bates/berrypicking.html
  • 35. Myth: I already know our customers! Photo © Flickr user coblat, flickr.com/photos/coblat
  • 36. OK, so which one am I? Reality: You don’t know Jack. Or Jill! Until you talk to Jill. And other Jills who are like her. Photo © Flickr user MeFind, flickr.com/photos/mefind
  • 37. Myth: The user’s feelings don’t matter. Photo © Flickr user wishardofoz, flickr.com/photos/wishardofoz
  • 38. Which one of these people will come back? Or recommend you? Reality: Satisfied customers are loyal, long-term shoppers and referrers. Photo © Flickr user lunaciel, flickr.com/photos/lunaciel
  • 39. Actually, the user doesn’t matter. Photo © Flickr user yubyungman, flickr.com/photos/yubyungman
  • 40. Reality: Search engines can’t buy anything from you. Photo © Flickr user largeprime, flickr.com/photos/largeprimenumber
  • 41. Group exercise: Can UX and SEO work together? Photo © Flickr user usnavynvns, flickr.com/photos/usnavynvns
  • 42. Scenario: This is a product users like. REI ranks well for its name. And it drives traffic.
  • 43. When customers click on the search result, they get a “Product Unavailable” page.
  • 44. Guess what? We have a newer version of this product in stock! But it’s located at a different URL that does not rank well in search.
  • 45. What would YOU do? Split into two teams… Team UX: Team SEO: What would you do to reduce What would you do to bounce rate on the old jacket improve findability and drive and improve conversion for traffic to the new version of the new version? the jacket? Photo © Flickr user Colin_K, flickr.com/photos/colinkinner
  • 46. Nice work! This stormtrooper demands that you hug it out. Photo © Flickr user balkov, flickr.com/photos/balakov
  • 47. So... Can we make UX and SEO be like chocolate and peanut butter? Photo © Flickr user jamieanne, flickr.com/photos/jamieanne
  • 48. Photo © Flickr user let5ch, flickr.com/photos/letscher
  • 49. Photo © Flickr user Rajiv Patel, flickr.com/photos/23679420@N00
  • 50. Want more SEO/UX tools? Get 90+ hand-curated articles and resources at: _ www.delicious.com/seo_ux Photo © Flickr user Noel C. Hankamer, flickr.com/photos/nhankamer
  • 51. Erin Hawk: UX @ REI Twitter @erinhawk Jonathon Colman: SEO @ REI Twitter @jcolman Graphic © Flickr user Jesse Fletcher, flickr.com/photos/jaxsilver