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Fitness Money Podcast Episode 17
                    Fitness Business Summit
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Welcome to the Fitness Money podcast, brought to you by FitnessMoney.com. In this podcast Logan
Christopher and Tyler Bramlett teach you the step-by-step ways to make more money in your fitness
business. Let’s take it on over to this episode of the Fitness Money podcast.

Tyler: Hey guys! It’s Tyler and Logan, and this is the Fitness Money podcast over at FitnessMoney.com
and Facebook.com/FitnessMoney. How’s it going Logan?

Logan: It’s going good.

Tyler: Yeah, it’s a beautiful day in Santa Cruz. It started a little foggy today but it’s looking pretty nice
outside. I’m looking forward to going out and spending some time with my family after we get this
podcast on.

Logan: Yup, let’s do it then.



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Tyler: Let’s do it, man. So last time we were talking about how we were going to go away for the
weekend to a fitness business seminar, the biggest fitness seminar in the world, Fitness Business Summit
and—

Logan: Until we create a bigger one in the future.

Tyler: Yeah, quite possibly. We’ll see what we can do. It was a great time. It was super fun . We’re going
to both kind of share our experiences about the Fitness Business Summit. We’ve spent a lot of time last
call talking about networking and how important that was. Now we have taken that knowledge, put it
into play, networked our asses off, and had a great time. We’ll tell you about some special projects
Logan and I might be taking on here in the near future. So Logan, why don’t you lead off? How was your
experience at Fitness Business Summit?

Logan: Well, this was the first time for me going to the event, unlike you who had been to it the previous
years so it was a bit different than a lot of other events I’ve been to. One of the things with the speakers
up on stage, I did sit in with a few of them though I have to say and we’ll talk about this, we spent more
time out in the halls where deals are being made and all that. There’s some good information. I would
highly recommend this event to anyone in the fitness profession because there’s a lot of good and great
ideas you can get from it, whether you’re a personal trainer, whether you’re running boot camps, or
online. There are all sorts of information all across the board there.

Tyler: Yeah. You know I’ve been to a Fitness Business Summit before and they keep doing things better
and better. It’s an entertaining event. It’s a great event to network with. I remember going for the first
time and just having my mind blown hopefully like some of you guys are when you’re listening to these
calls or not. Who knows, right?

But I remember my mind blown like, “Holy shit! Each word these people say, each phrase these people
say is going to make me money.” Actually, I went to a Turbulence Training summit first. That’s where I
originally met Craig and Bedros, the godfathers of the fitness industry if you will, fitness marketing
industry. I learned a lot from them at those events. Then right after that, I’m still teaching classes at my
boot camp, it’s a six-figure boot camp, everything is going good but I’m spending hours and hours and
hours a week teaching classes and everything. Then I’m in a gymnastics class, I do a fairy twist, I land,
“Boom!” knee blows to pieces. Within 24 hours, I’m on my laptop trying to figure out how I can keep my
fitness business running from a couch, basically with just a laptop.

I took that information I had learned from that Turbulence Training seminar and I applied it. Then I went
to Fitness Business Summit, I walked right up to Bedros and said “Hey, bro. You made me $5,000 off of
my couch,” because he did. I took the information, I directly applied it, and it made me a lot of money
and it’s built some really great relationships with those guys since then. I continue to make more and
more money off of things that I learn from those two gentlemen who run these big fitness events.

So it’s absolutely changed the way I look at things. If you guys do decide to go—we’ll be plugging this
thing big time next year—if you guys do decide to go and come meet us next time around, it’s an



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absolute great investment. You’re going to learn so much. You’re going to sit down, your mind is going
to be blown, and the notes that you take are going to worth their weight in gold.

Logan: You just telling that story reminds me of something that we haven’t talked about too much. I
would say for most people that get into business for themselves, maybe the word “control freak” is too
strong. I’d say a lot of people are there. I know I definitely was. Tyler, you have some of that going.
Sometimes it takes those instances for you to let go. Then when you see that things can, “Oh my god,
they can actually run without me being there every step of the way,” then it really does allow you to
focus on the things that can help grow your business and not working in it so much.

What happened right before we flew out for the event? My hosting for every single website went down.
Big problem. That means no one can access anything and obviously no money would be coming in
during the entire event should that hosting stayed down. I don’t really know much about hosting. They
were telling me to do these things that I don’t know at all. Luckily, recently in the past few months, I’ve
hired an assistant and I’m saying, “Hey, can you please help me out and try to figure this out?” because I
wouldn’t have any time during the traveling nor would I have really known what to do.

Within a couple of hours, he completely solved the hosting issue and everything was back online. That
was a huge thing for me. Luckily, I had that person in place but just being willing to let go of more
control and have people work for you, when people can do things for you that you couldn’t even do for
yourself, that’s an especially great feeling.

Tyler: Yeah. That’s a great point, Logan. We’re going off a little tangent here. We’ll get back to the
Fitness Business Summit in a second but I was still teaching a lot of my classes and in my mind, my
feeling was no one could do this better than me, which maybe I believe is true, maybe I don’t. What I do
know is that that doesn’t matter. Regardless of whether or not I can teach a boot camp class better than
the other trainers that I have working for me, it’s about leveraging my time.

If I want to train boot camps for the rest of my life then sure, I could continue to do that. But if I want to
make $500,000, $1 million, $10 million, $100 million, or $1 billion dollars, you’re not going to do that
training people in a group format like that. So Logan’s right. Sometimes, you’ve got to let go and you
have to realize that people are going to do a good job.

You know what really gratifies me is when I get emails from people that say, “Oh by the way, this trainer
is amazing!”, “Oh by the way, this trainer is amazing!” I start to realize that the individuality of each
person that’s working with me or for me is going to show and people are going to gravitate towards that
person because of that and then they’re going to love it. I don’t have to sit there and be super
controlling over exactly the way they train.

As long as they’re not injuring people, as long as they’re helping people get good results, as long as
they’re preaching and showing the philosophy as I’ve outlined, that’s what I care about big time. But
having people know proper muscle activation sequences and this and that, it’s important. It’s good and
it’d be great to have trainers who could do all that stuff but if you guys are listening to this call, you’re in
the top 1% already.

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You’re looking how to build your business even further and so it’s not the best thing to focus on those
things. You have to free up your time so you can work on your business, not on your training. I know
that’s kind of frustrating at first but you’re never going to build a strong business working just on your
training. It’s like back in the day when I used to play in a rock band and all we did was work on our music
over and over again but we never worked on the business. What happened? Nothing, all right? Nothing.

So you have to work on that business. You have to prioritize it if you do want to become successful in
the fitness industry. Eventually once you get things systematized, then you can do whatever the heck
you want. You can play, you can work out all day. I’ve got friends in the fitness industry who do that.
They work out two or three hours a day and have fun, whatever. It’s because they’ve set themselves up
at a younger age to be successful. So off of that tangent, work on your business and not in your business
as much as you possibly can. All right.

Logan: I think that would be a good topic for the future call, just on how to set up those systems and
hiring the right people, definitely good important stuff.

Tyler: I was just working on systematizing my system even further this last couple of hours.

Logan: Systematizing your system?

Tyler: I’m trying to systematize my system. I’m still programming workouts here and there. I started
trying to figure out how to do more cyclic or cyclic-based workouts and so I’ve been working on that this
morning. I’m just trying to make it so that I don’t even have to spend that much time on this whole
entire business.

All right, back to Fitness Business Summit. Why don’t you share with us some of the stuff you learned in
there? To be totally honest, I didn’t set foot in any of the seminars really at all. I was in a schmooze
mode. We’ll talk about that big time here in just a second. So Logan, do you want to share with us what
you kind of learned from maybe some of the guys? I know you went and checked out like the Facebook
guy.

Logan: Yeah. There’s just a whole bunch of things about Facebook. Facebook is kind of confusing with all
their advertising. They have so many different types of ads you can do. If you want to go that route,
which can be great for a local business or online business, you’re going to have to work with these
different ones and find what works best. They have like these sponsored posts, the promoted page
posts, a whole bunch of things and it can all be very confusing. That would be a very good topic to cover
in depth at a later time but I got some ideas right there.

Actually, my favorite presentation was about getting in media, like magazines or even on websites, a lot
of different things that you can use for making those connections with people. It goes along with the
networking and of course doing it at events live is the best way, as we’ve covered in the previous call.
But meeting those people online also works but how do you actually pitch what you’re doing?

One idea I got from that was when you are contacting someone, this can be for like a guest article online
or anything, is you can do this format that is called the two-two-one pitch. It’s like two sentences of she

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called it foreplay, where you are sort of just introducing the idea; then it’s two sentences of buildup,
that’s where you put some of your credentials or your ideas and everything; then the finish is a single
sentence like, “Is this something that would be a value to your readers?”

So within just a short frame, because people don’t want to read paragraphs upon paragraphs of
information, you just give them a little bit of stuff. Then from there, you can transition to giving them
more information about yourself, about what you can provide. It just is a way to introduce yourself to
them. So there are some other ideas in that but I thought that that was very helpful and I got some great
ideas and ways that I can use that myself.

Tyler: It’s good to have a template when you’re contacting people. If you’re online and you’re trying to
generate affiliates or if you’re like trying to build a relationship with a chiropractor, it’s good to have a
template rather than just to just kind of shoot in the dark because ultimately if you just shoot in the dark
every single time, you’re going to be rewriting the same garbage over and over again. What you really
want to have is something that’s super solid that you can use to basically contact anybody that’s going
to get good results. So you absolutely should do that. I completely agree with that, Logan. Anything else
you want to share with us on that?

Logan: I think that’s a pretty good overview. Let’s talk about the networking, because that was the main
thing accomplished at the event, I would say.

Tyler: Yes. Yeah, absolutely. So I went into this event, like I told you guys last time, with a specific list of
people that I wanted to make contact with. Then I’m always open to meeting new people or making
contact with them as well because ultimately my goal for 2013 is to become 100% online and not be
dependent on my brick-and-mortar business, whether I choose to keep it or not, so just be 100% online.

There was a bunch of guys there that I knew of or had met maybe once before in the past, guys like Dan
Long, who’s a real popular internet guy and has a great business in Tampa, Florida, Kill Mode Training.
He’s one of the most high energy guys you could ever meet and he just launched his Suspension Training
Revolution. I wanted to connect with Dan because he’s got a great product. I want to have him in my
podcast. I want to get a guest workout video from him and I want to promote his stuff. Then hopefully,
someday it’ll come back to me and he’ll want to promote my stuff as well. I think Dan’s a great guy. He’s
got a great product so I want to connect with him and I did.

The first thing we did is sat down in that hotel lobby on the night before the thing started and just
started hanging out with people, collecting names, schmoozing, buying people drinks. You just had to
start small and just kind of get your eyes on people and then start moving forward from there. So it all
starts with just hanging out, right?

I mean that’s all we did. We just hung out and then you just try to find the people that you’re going to
gel with and then magical things happen. I’ll talk about that more in a second. What’s your take on just
kind of getting things started with the schmoozing, Logan?




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Logan: Yeah. Let’s see. Where to start with that? I think people do understand the importance of it but
at the same time, you’ve got to figure out what really works to do it because it is a single connection at
that event could make a dramatic difference. For instance, there was one guy that we talked to. I don’t
know if we want to name names and all this but I was coming up with new ideas on how I could
promote the supplement business I have, SupermanHerbs.com, and how it can grow, literally taking a
model of someone else that’s been very successful in the supplement space and using that as way to
attract affiliates and grow that way.

So just there were a few people there with monstrous lists so I was just talking up my product, not in an
overly pitchy way like we talked about, but on the topic then just offering them free samples of the stuff
because if he likes it and really finds it useful, then he said, “That’s no problem. I’ll tell my list all about
it.” So that thing could literally double that business overnight if not more than that.

Tyler: Absolutely.

Logan: So it’s huge. It’s huge.

Tyler: Yeah. You’ve got to be prepared for anything when you go to an event like this and you have
some businesses or a business in mind. There’s just so many ways to spend it. You could meet a boot
camp owner who’s got a sales funnel that would just transform your business that he’d just willingly give
you or an advertisement that they willingly give you. These people are open for answering questions.

Then if you’re on online space, there are people there like crazy that are just so sharp when it comes to
online business. So the night one, we kind of just schmoozed a little bit. I did connect with that guy, Dan
Long, and he’s going to be on my podcast next week so—

Logan: Other podcast.

Tyler: Other podcast next week and—

Logan: We will be lining up a lot of people for this podcast in the future that were at the event, different
trainers, boot camp runners, and online people, and bringing a lot more guests on in the next few
weeks.

Tyler: Yeah. Yeah, definitely. I had an idea for getting a garage gym setup thing going on. So if you have a
garage at home, we can teach you how to monetize that minute little space and build your business
starting in just your own garage. We’ll talk more about that in the next couple of weeks. Hopefully, we
can get some cool guys lined up for those calls.

Anyways, so the first night was that then the next day we just kind of went downstairs. The seminar
started, I went and sat down on a regular seat and I was just like listening. I was like, “I’m not supposed
to be here.” I couldn’t help it. It was like a divine whisper in my ear telling me you need to go schmooze
right now. Part of it is because I understand that my main goal is to become 100% online, that I
shouldn’t tempt myself with more and more marketing on my offline business because I could take all



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the hours I spent online—I probably spent 40 hours on my online business a week or more—and I can
dump them into my brick-and-mortar and probably make a ton of money.

That’s great but it’s not where my passion lies. I really, really love the concept of being 100% online. I
actually want to help coach people just like you how to build their brick-and-mortar businesses because
that to me, helping people do what I’ve already done, is way more fun and way more gratifying than just
doing more of the same old shit. I guess it’s the entrepreneur’s dilemma. We’re going to say—

Logan: That was a very interesting thing that you know because even I was sitting in on some of those.
People were talking about their successful boot camps and I’m thinking I could start a boot camp
program, I could do this. That can be good if you’re fishing for ideas but realize most people in business,
you already have an idea that is working to some degree and your greatest leverage will not be in
starting something new.

Sure, there are times when you want to test things out and add something additional but a lot of
entrepreneurs as well are serial entrepreneurs, where they’re really excited about the new project, the
new thing and really in order to grow the business, the best thing they can do is devote the time they
have to what is already working, to grow that rather than looking at these other avenues out there.

So that is something you do need to be aware of. At seminars also you’re always being bombarded with
ads and advertising for different things. Really take stock of where you’re at and if buying a product or
whatever can help you specifically with what you’re currently doing to the leverage that, that’s a huge
thing because you can—and I’ve definitely done this—spread myself too thin to the point where things
aren’t getting the attention they need and everything suffers because of that. It also can stress you the
hell out as well.

Tyler: Yeah, it can. You’re throwing like a bunch of turds out there rather than diamonds, some little
gems.

Logan: Yeah, you want to go cultivate this little tiny flower that you’re just really excited about instead
of just taking care of the huge tree that you’ve got going, which can easily be doubled if you spent the
time on that.

Tyler: As entrepreneurs we’re all like ADD, easily distracted in a lot of my ways. You just mentioned that.
I was talking with Mark, my buddy Mark, who’s a really successful dentist. He has an online dentist
coaching business and he’s done millions of dollars in his online dentist coaching business. He was
scratching his head, “I think I’m going to start a boot camp.” Huh? Why the fuck are you going to start a
boot camp? You don’t need that stress in your life right now, with the fucking hassle and hustle in a boot
camp. So you’re right, Logan. We’ve got to stay focused, which is obviously not our strength on this call
today. Okay.

Logan: Well, that’s a little bit of the ADD playing in right there.

Tyler: Yeah, totally.


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Logan: You and I both have this. I mean this whole Fitness Money podcast came up as an idea. It was like
we probably should be spending more time on the business but with this, we’re also looking at the long
term, which is another useful skill.

Tyler: Yeah, and you know what? Sometimes, you’ve got to just say fuck it. I love to help people and
that’s what we’re doing with this podcast. If you guys have listened to all the episodes up until now, you
know what you have great information and we’re going to continue to share great information. That’s
what we want to do. We want to help the guys the most and spending a little bit of time each week
doing that is a pleasure to both me and Logan.

All right, so Day 2. Day 2, I’m in there. I’m not supposed to be in there so I bailed out. We schmooze,
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We go out that night to the big event. We see some people there that we
know are good industry producers on the online market so we jump up and we start talking to them. We
start hanging out with them. We bounce back and forth between a few different people and ultimately,
we just schmooze and like I said last time, our whole focus is to try and help them.

One guy in particular that I’m not going to drop a name of, I’ve actually really enjoyed his information
for a long time. I would like to help him optimize his business because I have a pretty good key for
optimizing sales funnels. So I’m going try and help him do that with his next program launch just
because, like I said, I want to help as many people as I can. If I can get a bitching testimonial from
someone like that on a conversion rate that I’ve helped him increase then even better. So we just built a
relationship with these people. By the way, he’s going to be on my other podcast now, too. It’s just all
these little things, right? You keep building forward.

Logan: Like we mentioned in the previous calls, just inviting someone onto your podcast is one of the
easiest ways to just start up and establish that relationship.

Tyler: It is. Yeah, because then you’re going to talk about them. What if I sat down across you, you didn’t
know who I was, and I was like, “Hang on one second. I want to tell you all about me”? That person will
sit there and just be like, “Oh my god.” Vice versa, if somebody sits down on the airplane next to you
and says, “Hey, my name is this. What’s your name? Tell me what you do,” and they ask questions over
and over again, that person is going to feel so much more loved and taken care of. Then you’re going to
build that better relationship and rapport with him as well.

So we built some good relationships that night but I say we probably spent the last 10 minutes talking
about our top secret project. I’ll lead in with a story about how this kind of came to be because this was
pretty funny but we’re actually going to do it. We’re not going to say specifically how just yet. Once it’s
all setup and everything’s rolling, then we’ll talk about our success with it because this is going to be a
stamp that we’ve placed on the marketing world that we were able to actually do this.

So one of the guys we schmoozed up with, again, I don’t need to mention his name, is a world renowned
search engine optimization expert.

Logan: Well, he’s not really world renowned because he’s underground.


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Tyler: Yeah, I guess he’s underground. You’re right.

Logan: Yes. He is highly skilled at what he does.

Tyler: Highly skilled, you’re right. Highly skilled—

Logan: And works for some big names that you’d likely know if we told you.

Tyler: Yeah, okay. We’re being all cutty right there because if we tell you we’d have to kill you, right?

Logan: Right.

Tyler: So basically we’re sitting around, we’re having lunch with this guy, we schmooze him up, and he’s
like one of the coolest guys out there. He’s a total champion of dick and fart jokes. If anybody’s into that,
then we’re going to be friends. So we’re hanging out and we’re at the restaurant. Logan’s got a little bit
of a hangover. He’ll admit it, and he’s like—

Logan: Yup. That’s because we were doing hardcore networking the night before.

Tyler: And then he goes, “Can I get a side of ten pieces of bacon for an appetizer?” The waiter was like,
“What? Yeah, I guess that’s cool” and so Logan gets a side of ten pieces of bacon.

Logan: That wasn’t even the start. The reason why I asked for that side was the night before, like 3
o’clock in the morning when we were wrapping up the schmoozing, a guy was talking about, “Oh, I’m
going to go buy a pound of bacon for breakfast.” That set the wheels in motion so I was feeling like
bacon. So that was the start. That was the beginning.

Tyler: I got you. So he orders some bacon. Needless to say, our topic of conversation becomes bacon for
the next several hours. We went back to the seminar. We were out in the hall. We were schmoozing and
talking about it. One of us just goes, “Hey! You should optimize the keyword ‘bacon’” and then hahaha,
we’d made some jokes about it. He’s looking down at the ground and I look up at him and say, “What
are you thinking about, man?” He goes, “I think I’m going to do it. I think I’m going to optimize bacon.”
We’re like, “Okay, whatever.” We kind of shoved it off.

So we got up, we went over to Starbucks to get a coffee, and you can just tell that he’s deep in thought.
He just pulls out his camera and he turns it at Logan. He says, “Logan, tell me what you love about
bacon. We’re doing this right now.” So he shoots the video thing and Logan gives his bacon testimonial.
Then he goes, “Guys, I need a 350-word press release article in the next half hour and then I’m going to
show you how we can optimize some bacon.” So if you guys are out there listening right now, go on
Google and type in “bacon testimonial video.” You’re going to see a video of Logan talking about how he
loves bacon.

Logan: It is a very bad video, just be prepared for that. It’s horrible, whatever.




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Tyler: So anyways point being this has all led up to the point of us going like hey, this is funny, ha ha but
let’s figure out a project how we can actually monetize bacon. So we went out to dinner that night until
quite late. I think we were up until 3 or 3:30 in the morning.

Logan: Oh, we were up 3, both nights in a row there.

Tyler: Yeah. We were talking about how we plan to monetize bacon. Like I said, I’m not going to let the
cat out of the bag just yet because there’s some really cool things going to happen here in the next
probably two months but I can almost guarantee on this podcast that that project is going to be worth a
minimum of probably $20,000 dollars. But I’m likely going to try to see if I can get it closer to that 100K
mark because it would be very cool to stand up on a marketing stage and tell people that you were able
to monetize bacon to the tune of six figures.

Logan: It’s something that started as a joke. Now it’s completely planned out with multiple people
involved in different roles and it’s going to be a fun project to work on. We’re not actually selling bacon.
That’s the thing. We’re going to be selling information about bacon.

Tyler: Yeah. It’s going to be good. It’s going to be really good. Some of the people that we networked
with will most likely be a good fit for promoting the bacon product.

Logan: Yeah, that’s kind of the thing. In getting with this business because we have multiple people
involved, we’re now working on a project together which just solidifies that relationship and then allows
for much more in the future. That was kind of why we just got started with it. “Oh, he wants us to write
a press release. Let’s go do this.” So now we’re rolling with it. Like you said, it should be rocking and
rolling in the future.

Tyler: Oh, it could be rocking. All right? You know how bad I’m fighting, not to just be like, “Here’s what
we’re going to do. Muahaha!”

Logan: Right after we talked about don’t get sidetracked with side projects.

Tyler: Yeah. Well, you know what’s the thing was? We say the side project thing and don’t get
sidetracked with it but when an opportunity hits you in the face and you pause for a second and you
think it through—because I know you saw my face that night when we started talking about
monetization. That’s my whole gig. I love writing sales copy. I love looking at conversions. I love selling
shit, right? It makes me feel good to know that I’m able to do that and so when I’m looking at it I’m like
“Holy cow! This could be huge!”

Logan: Well, it’s actually a really good idea in a big market so it definitely can be.

Tyler: Exactly. I know I mean I’m doing like movement progressions, functional training, and stuff that
I’m all totally passionate about but guess what? I’m also passionate about bacon. More importantly, I’m
passionate that people should know that bacon isn’t bad. That’s why this product actually kind of rings
near to my heart. I’m like we’re going to put all that science in there, talking about how bacon isn’t bad
for you and everything like that.

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Then it’s all going to lead up to this really cool launch you guys should look forward to probably in—I’m
crossing my fingers—in May. I’m thinking May would be the time we can actually launch this whole
hatch to this whole project and everything. But if you guys are on our list, you’ll probably see some
sneak peeks of the bacon monetization project early. So make sure you guys opt in online. We’re going
to be giving you guys some cool freebies here in the next week or so that we’re going to be creating for
you. So there’s a lot of cool things happening in Fitness Money land.

Logan: So on to a related note, the networking, something that we did with a few of the people was to
work to help promote them with their upcoming launches or just as a fun thing. We shot videos with
people, which is a great thing you can do at events when you’re live, you’re both there, and having some
fun with it. That is a great way to just produce content but it can also be tied in to some sort of sales
pitch or just helping each other out. That was fun. I did a few of those with a few different guys and
those were great.

Tyler: It’s really powerful. The more you can help people, the more they’re likely to come back and help
you. That’s what we talked about with this networking thing. In the online world, it is literally one of the
most powerful ways you can skyrocket your business in a short amount of time. It’s just building those
good relationships with people who you know can really make a change in your business. So networking
is absolutely critical.

The other thing is not being afraid to learn from the people who know what’s up. If you guys are
shacked up in your house, you have a shitty personal training business, and you’re suffering and stuff
like that, just know that sometimes you’ve got to make sacrifices to learn what you need to learn in
order to build that successful business.

I’m actually wearing the T-shirt right now but I remember I wanted to go train with Dennis Rogers years
ago. This wasn’t a business thing but I wanted it so freaking bad and I had no money to do it. What I
literally did was I literally sold some of my gym equipment in order to afford the trip to go meet Dennis
Rogers, the world famous strongman. People told me I was bad shit crazy at the time but I will never
regret that decision because that was one of the funnest events ever. I’ll never regret just what I learned
over that weekend working with that guy.

So sometimes you guys have got to just rip the band aid off when there’s a big opportunity, a big event.
Just sell your kettlebells or whatever, like I did, and just make it happen because it could be an
opportunity that changes the course of your life.

Logan: Yeah. That’s what we’re looking for to achieve. You’ve really got to put yourself out there. You’ve
got to take big risks in order to get the big benefits at the end.

Tyler: Yeah, it’s like my buddy, Rick Kaselj. Says. It’s like the terminator, right? That was a good thing,
though. Let’s recap that just real quick and then we’ll finish it up. He was up onstage talking about what
he does in his business, how we visualizes himself. He’s like, “You’ve got to be like the Terminator.
You’re running and you get shot a bunch of times then you fall over and you get back up. Then a mine
goes off, next thing your arm blows off, and you pick it back up and you keep charging forward. Then

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your foot gets blown to pieces just like the Terminator. You just kept persisting and moving forward
towards this goal no matter what happened.”

That was a good visual. I actually have Rick coming up on my podcast on Monday, my other podcast, and
I did ask him about the terminator question just to put him on the spot. I got him all embarrassed and
stuff.

Logan: That’s awesome. Some of the other key points because I really did like his speech not because it
was just completely entertaining. I wasn’t really expecting that from Rick but it had really good nuggets
in there, the idea to make a lot of noise. If you’re going out there and you don’t have the big dogs
promoting you for an affiliate launch, for instance, but you have some people promoting for you and it’s
doing well, if you just keep plugging away and doing that, you make noise and people take notice.
You’ve actually had this happen to you also this past year so that’s a huge thing. Make a lot of noise then
people will take notice.

Tyler: Absolutely. Awesome, man. Well, if you guys dig this, leave us a review on iTunes. Be sure to
come back to the Fitness Money page. Very soon we’re going to be having that special opt in. We’re
going to give you 9 Ways to Make 1K in 30 Days, so nine ways to make an extra thousand dollars in your
fitness business in just 30 days. Go to Facebook.com/FitnessMoneyPodcast and join us, like us, and leave
some comments. Let us know if you guys have any questions about things you want to know about your
fitness business. Otherwise, we’ll be blowing it up in 2013 on Fitness Money podcast.

Logan: All right.

Thank you guys so much for listening to the Fitness Money podcast. For more information on how you
can make more money in your fitness business today, go to FitnessMoney.com or go to
Facebook.Com/FitnessMoneyPodcast. Thanks so much for listening. We’ll see you next time.




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Fitness Money Episode 17 - Fitness Business Summit Recap

  • 1. Fitness Money Podcast Episode 17 Fitness Business Summit Get this podcast on iTunes at: http://fitnessmoney.com/go/podcast/ Welcome to the Fitness Money podcast, brought to you by FitnessMoney.com. In this podcast Logan Christopher and Tyler Bramlett teach you the step-by-step ways to make more money in your fitness business. Let’s take it on over to this episode of the Fitness Money podcast. Tyler: Hey guys! It’s Tyler and Logan, and this is the Fitness Money podcast over at FitnessMoney.com and Facebook.com/FitnessMoney. How’s it going Logan? Logan: It’s going good. Tyler: Yeah, it’s a beautiful day in Santa Cruz. It started a little foggy today but it’s looking pretty nice outside. I’m looking forward to going out and spending some time with my family after we get this podcast on. Logan: Yup, let’s do it then. Copyright © 2013 FitnessMoney.com All Rights Reserved
  • 2. Tyler: Let’s do it, man. So last time we were talking about how we were going to go away for the weekend to a fitness business seminar, the biggest fitness seminar in the world, Fitness Business Summit and— Logan: Until we create a bigger one in the future. Tyler: Yeah, quite possibly. We’ll see what we can do. It was a great time. It was super fun . We’re going to both kind of share our experiences about the Fitness Business Summit. We’ve spent a lot of time last call talking about networking and how important that was. Now we have taken that knowledge, put it into play, networked our asses off, and had a great time. We’ll tell you about some special projects Logan and I might be taking on here in the near future. So Logan, why don’t you lead off? How was your experience at Fitness Business Summit? Logan: Well, this was the first time for me going to the event, unlike you who had been to it the previous years so it was a bit different than a lot of other events I’ve been to. One of the things with the speakers up on stage, I did sit in with a few of them though I have to say and we’ll talk about this, we spent more time out in the halls where deals are being made and all that. There’s some good information. I would highly recommend this event to anyone in the fitness profession because there’s a lot of good and great ideas you can get from it, whether you’re a personal trainer, whether you’re running boot camps, or online. There are all sorts of information all across the board there. Tyler: Yeah. You know I’ve been to a Fitness Business Summit before and they keep doing things better and better. It’s an entertaining event. It’s a great event to network with. I remember going for the first time and just having my mind blown hopefully like some of you guys are when you’re listening to these calls or not. Who knows, right? But I remember my mind blown like, “Holy shit! Each word these people say, each phrase these people say is going to make me money.” Actually, I went to a Turbulence Training summit first. That’s where I originally met Craig and Bedros, the godfathers of the fitness industry if you will, fitness marketing industry. I learned a lot from them at those events. Then right after that, I’m still teaching classes at my boot camp, it’s a six-figure boot camp, everything is going good but I’m spending hours and hours and hours a week teaching classes and everything. Then I’m in a gymnastics class, I do a fairy twist, I land, “Boom!” knee blows to pieces. Within 24 hours, I’m on my laptop trying to figure out how I can keep my fitness business running from a couch, basically with just a laptop. I took that information I had learned from that Turbulence Training seminar and I applied it. Then I went to Fitness Business Summit, I walked right up to Bedros and said “Hey, bro. You made me $5,000 off of my couch,” because he did. I took the information, I directly applied it, and it made me a lot of money and it’s built some really great relationships with those guys since then. I continue to make more and more money off of things that I learn from those two gentlemen who run these big fitness events. So it’s absolutely changed the way I look at things. If you guys do decide to go—we’ll be plugging this thing big time next year—if you guys do decide to go and come meet us next time around, it’s an Copyright © 2013 FitnessMoney.com All Rights Reserved
  • 3. absolute great investment. You’re going to learn so much. You’re going to sit down, your mind is going to be blown, and the notes that you take are going to worth their weight in gold. Logan: You just telling that story reminds me of something that we haven’t talked about too much. I would say for most people that get into business for themselves, maybe the word “control freak” is too strong. I’d say a lot of people are there. I know I definitely was. Tyler, you have some of that going. Sometimes it takes those instances for you to let go. Then when you see that things can, “Oh my god, they can actually run without me being there every step of the way,” then it really does allow you to focus on the things that can help grow your business and not working in it so much. What happened right before we flew out for the event? My hosting for every single website went down. Big problem. That means no one can access anything and obviously no money would be coming in during the entire event should that hosting stayed down. I don’t really know much about hosting. They were telling me to do these things that I don’t know at all. Luckily, recently in the past few months, I’ve hired an assistant and I’m saying, “Hey, can you please help me out and try to figure this out?” because I wouldn’t have any time during the traveling nor would I have really known what to do. Within a couple of hours, he completely solved the hosting issue and everything was back online. That was a huge thing for me. Luckily, I had that person in place but just being willing to let go of more control and have people work for you, when people can do things for you that you couldn’t even do for yourself, that’s an especially great feeling. Tyler: Yeah. That’s a great point, Logan. We’re going off a little tangent here. We’ll get back to the Fitness Business Summit in a second but I was still teaching a lot of my classes and in my mind, my feeling was no one could do this better than me, which maybe I believe is true, maybe I don’t. What I do know is that that doesn’t matter. Regardless of whether or not I can teach a boot camp class better than the other trainers that I have working for me, it’s about leveraging my time. If I want to train boot camps for the rest of my life then sure, I could continue to do that. But if I want to make $500,000, $1 million, $10 million, $100 million, or $1 billion dollars, you’re not going to do that training people in a group format like that. So Logan’s right. Sometimes, you’ve got to let go and you have to realize that people are going to do a good job. You know what really gratifies me is when I get emails from people that say, “Oh by the way, this trainer is amazing!”, “Oh by the way, this trainer is amazing!” I start to realize that the individuality of each person that’s working with me or for me is going to show and people are going to gravitate towards that person because of that and then they’re going to love it. I don’t have to sit there and be super controlling over exactly the way they train. As long as they’re not injuring people, as long as they’re helping people get good results, as long as they’re preaching and showing the philosophy as I’ve outlined, that’s what I care about big time. But having people know proper muscle activation sequences and this and that, it’s important. It’s good and it’d be great to have trainers who could do all that stuff but if you guys are listening to this call, you’re in the top 1% already. Copyright © 2013 FitnessMoney.com All Rights Reserved
  • 4. You’re looking how to build your business even further and so it’s not the best thing to focus on those things. You have to free up your time so you can work on your business, not on your training. I know that’s kind of frustrating at first but you’re never going to build a strong business working just on your training. It’s like back in the day when I used to play in a rock band and all we did was work on our music over and over again but we never worked on the business. What happened? Nothing, all right? Nothing. So you have to work on that business. You have to prioritize it if you do want to become successful in the fitness industry. Eventually once you get things systematized, then you can do whatever the heck you want. You can play, you can work out all day. I’ve got friends in the fitness industry who do that. They work out two or three hours a day and have fun, whatever. It’s because they’ve set themselves up at a younger age to be successful. So off of that tangent, work on your business and not in your business as much as you possibly can. All right. Logan: I think that would be a good topic for the future call, just on how to set up those systems and hiring the right people, definitely good important stuff. Tyler: I was just working on systematizing my system even further this last couple of hours. Logan: Systematizing your system? Tyler: I’m trying to systematize my system. I’m still programming workouts here and there. I started trying to figure out how to do more cyclic or cyclic-based workouts and so I’ve been working on that this morning. I’m just trying to make it so that I don’t even have to spend that much time on this whole entire business. All right, back to Fitness Business Summit. Why don’t you share with us some of the stuff you learned in there? To be totally honest, I didn’t set foot in any of the seminars really at all. I was in a schmooze mode. We’ll talk about that big time here in just a second. So Logan, do you want to share with us what you kind of learned from maybe some of the guys? I know you went and checked out like the Facebook guy. Logan: Yeah. There’s just a whole bunch of things about Facebook. Facebook is kind of confusing with all their advertising. They have so many different types of ads you can do. If you want to go that route, which can be great for a local business or online business, you’re going to have to work with these different ones and find what works best. They have like these sponsored posts, the promoted page posts, a whole bunch of things and it can all be very confusing. That would be a very good topic to cover in depth at a later time but I got some ideas right there. Actually, my favorite presentation was about getting in media, like magazines or even on websites, a lot of different things that you can use for making those connections with people. It goes along with the networking and of course doing it at events live is the best way, as we’ve covered in the previous call. But meeting those people online also works but how do you actually pitch what you’re doing? One idea I got from that was when you are contacting someone, this can be for like a guest article online or anything, is you can do this format that is called the two-two-one pitch. It’s like two sentences of she Copyright © 2013 FitnessMoney.com All Rights Reserved
  • 5. called it foreplay, where you are sort of just introducing the idea; then it’s two sentences of buildup, that’s where you put some of your credentials or your ideas and everything; then the finish is a single sentence like, “Is this something that would be a value to your readers?” So within just a short frame, because people don’t want to read paragraphs upon paragraphs of information, you just give them a little bit of stuff. Then from there, you can transition to giving them more information about yourself, about what you can provide. It just is a way to introduce yourself to them. So there are some other ideas in that but I thought that that was very helpful and I got some great ideas and ways that I can use that myself. Tyler: It’s good to have a template when you’re contacting people. If you’re online and you’re trying to generate affiliates or if you’re like trying to build a relationship with a chiropractor, it’s good to have a template rather than just to just kind of shoot in the dark because ultimately if you just shoot in the dark every single time, you’re going to be rewriting the same garbage over and over again. What you really want to have is something that’s super solid that you can use to basically contact anybody that’s going to get good results. So you absolutely should do that. I completely agree with that, Logan. Anything else you want to share with us on that? Logan: I think that’s a pretty good overview. Let’s talk about the networking, because that was the main thing accomplished at the event, I would say. Tyler: Yes. Yeah, absolutely. So I went into this event, like I told you guys last time, with a specific list of people that I wanted to make contact with. Then I’m always open to meeting new people or making contact with them as well because ultimately my goal for 2013 is to become 100% online and not be dependent on my brick-and-mortar business, whether I choose to keep it or not, so just be 100% online. There was a bunch of guys there that I knew of or had met maybe once before in the past, guys like Dan Long, who’s a real popular internet guy and has a great business in Tampa, Florida, Kill Mode Training. He’s one of the most high energy guys you could ever meet and he just launched his Suspension Training Revolution. I wanted to connect with Dan because he’s got a great product. I want to have him in my podcast. I want to get a guest workout video from him and I want to promote his stuff. Then hopefully, someday it’ll come back to me and he’ll want to promote my stuff as well. I think Dan’s a great guy. He’s got a great product so I want to connect with him and I did. The first thing we did is sat down in that hotel lobby on the night before the thing started and just started hanging out with people, collecting names, schmoozing, buying people drinks. You just had to start small and just kind of get your eyes on people and then start moving forward from there. So it all starts with just hanging out, right? I mean that’s all we did. We just hung out and then you just try to find the people that you’re going to gel with and then magical things happen. I’ll talk about that more in a second. What’s your take on just kind of getting things started with the schmoozing, Logan? Copyright © 2013 FitnessMoney.com All Rights Reserved
  • 6. Logan: Yeah. Let’s see. Where to start with that? I think people do understand the importance of it but at the same time, you’ve got to figure out what really works to do it because it is a single connection at that event could make a dramatic difference. For instance, there was one guy that we talked to. I don’t know if we want to name names and all this but I was coming up with new ideas on how I could promote the supplement business I have, SupermanHerbs.com, and how it can grow, literally taking a model of someone else that’s been very successful in the supplement space and using that as way to attract affiliates and grow that way. So just there were a few people there with monstrous lists so I was just talking up my product, not in an overly pitchy way like we talked about, but on the topic then just offering them free samples of the stuff because if he likes it and really finds it useful, then he said, “That’s no problem. I’ll tell my list all about it.” So that thing could literally double that business overnight if not more than that. Tyler: Absolutely. Logan: So it’s huge. It’s huge. Tyler: Yeah. You’ve got to be prepared for anything when you go to an event like this and you have some businesses or a business in mind. There’s just so many ways to spend it. You could meet a boot camp owner who’s got a sales funnel that would just transform your business that he’d just willingly give you or an advertisement that they willingly give you. These people are open for answering questions. Then if you’re on online space, there are people there like crazy that are just so sharp when it comes to online business. So the night one, we kind of just schmoozed a little bit. I did connect with that guy, Dan Long, and he’s going to be on my podcast next week so— Logan: Other podcast. Tyler: Other podcast next week and— Logan: We will be lining up a lot of people for this podcast in the future that were at the event, different trainers, boot camp runners, and online people, and bringing a lot more guests on in the next few weeks. Tyler: Yeah. Yeah, definitely. I had an idea for getting a garage gym setup thing going on. So if you have a garage at home, we can teach you how to monetize that minute little space and build your business starting in just your own garage. We’ll talk more about that in the next couple of weeks. Hopefully, we can get some cool guys lined up for those calls. Anyways, so the first night was that then the next day we just kind of went downstairs. The seminar started, I went and sat down on a regular seat and I was just like listening. I was like, “I’m not supposed to be here.” I couldn’t help it. It was like a divine whisper in my ear telling me you need to go schmooze right now. Part of it is because I understand that my main goal is to become 100% online, that I shouldn’t tempt myself with more and more marketing on my offline business because I could take all Copyright © 2013 FitnessMoney.com All Rights Reserved
  • 7. the hours I spent online—I probably spent 40 hours on my online business a week or more—and I can dump them into my brick-and-mortar and probably make a ton of money. That’s great but it’s not where my passion lies. I really, really love the concept of being 100% online. I actually want to help coach people just like you how to build their brick-and-mortar businesses because that to me, helping people do what I’ve already done, is way more fun and way more gratifying than just doing more of the same old shit. I guess it’s the entrepreneur’s dilemma. We’re going to say— Logan: That was a very interesting thing that you know because even I was sitting in on some of those. People were talking about their successful boot camps and I’m thinking I could start a boot camp program, I could do this. That can be good if you’re fishing for ideas but realize most people in business, you already have an idea that is working to some degree and your greatest leverage will not be in starting something new. Sure, there are times when you want to test things out and add something additional but a lot of entrepreneurs as well are serial entrepreneurs, where they’re really excited about the new project, the new thing and really in order to grow the business, the best thing they can do is devote the time they have to what is already working, to grow that rather than looking at these other avenues out there. So that is something you do need to be aware of. At seminars also you’re always being bombarded with ads and advertising for different things. Really take stock of where you’re at and if buying a product or whatever can help you specifically with what you’re currently doing to the leverage that, that’s a huge thing because you can—and I’ve definitely done this—spread myself too thin to the point where things aren’t getting the attention they need and everything suffers because of that. It also can stress you the hell out as well. Tyler: Yeah, it can. You’re throwing like a bunch of turds out there rather than diamonds, some little gems. Logan: Yeah, you want to go cultivate this little tiny flower that you’re just really excited about instead of just taking care of the huge tree that you’ve got going, which can easily be doubled if you spent the time on that. Tyler: As entrepreneurs we’re all like ADD, easily distracted in a lot of my ways. You just mentioned that. I was talking with Mark, my buddy Mark, who’s a really successful dentist. He has an online dentist coaching business and he’s done millions of dollars in his online dentist coaching business. He was scratching his head, “I think I’m going to start a boot camp.” Huh? Why the fuck are you going to start a boot camp? You don’t need that stress in your life right now, with the fucking hassle and hustle in a boot camp. So you’re right, Logan. We’ve got to stay focused, which is obviously not our strength on this call today. Okay. Logan: Well, that’s a little bit of the ADD playing in right there. Tyler: Yeah, totally. Copyright © 2013 FitnessMoney.com All Rights Reserved
  • 8. Logan: You and I both have this. I mean this whole Fitness Money podcast came up as an idea. It was like we probably should be spending more time on the business but with this, we’re also looking at the long term, which is another useful skill. Tyler: Yeah, and you know what? Sometimes, you’ve got to just say fuck it. I love to help people and that’s what we’re doing with this podcast. If you guys have listened to all the episodes up until now, you know what you have great information and we’re going to continue to share great information. That’s what we want to do. We want to help the guys the most and spending a little bit of time each week doing that is a pleasure to both me and Logan. All right, so Day 2. Day 2, I’m in there. I’m not supposed to be in there so I bailed out. We schmooze, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We go out that night to the big event. We see some people there that we know are good industry producers on the online market so we jump up and we start talking to them. We start hanging out with them. We bounce back and forth between a few different people and ultimately, we just schmooze and like I said last time, our whole focus is to try and help them. One guy in particular that I’m not going to drop a name of, I’ve actually really enjoyed his information for a long time. I would like to help him optimize his business because I have a pretty good key for optimizing sales funnels. So I’m going try and help him do that with his next program launch just because, like I said, I want to help as many people as I can. If I can get a bitching testimonial from someone like that on a conversion rate that I’ve helped him increase then even better. So we just built a relationship with these people. By the way, he’s going to be on my other podcast now, too. It’s just all these little things, right? You keep building forward. Logan: Like we mentioned in the previous calls, just inviting someone onto your podcast is one of the easiest ways to just start up and establish that relationship. Tyler: It is. Yeah, because then you’re going to talk about them. What if I sat down across you, you didn’t know who I was, and I was like, “Hang on one second. I want to tell you all about me”? That person will sit there and just be like, “Oh my god.” Vice versa, if somebody sits down on the airplane next to you and says, “Hey, my name is this. What’s your name? Tell me what you do,” and they ask questions over and over again, that person is going to feel so much more loved and taken care of. Then you’re going to build that better relationship and rapport with him as well. So we built some good relationships that night but I say we probably spent the last 10 minutes talking about our top secret project. I’ll lead in with a story about how this kind of came to be because this was pretty funny but we’re actually going to do it. We’re not going to say specifically how just yet. Once it’s all setup and everything’s rolling, then we’ll talk about our success with it because this is going to be a stamp that we’ve placed on the marketing world that we were able to actually do this. So one of the guys we schmoozed up with, again, I don’t need to mention his name, is a world renowned search engine optimization expert. Logan: Well, he’s not really world renowned because he’s underground. Copyright © 2013 FitnessMoney.com All Rights Reserved
  • 9. Tyler: Yeah, I guess he’s underground. You’re right. Logan: Yes. He is highly skilled at what he does. Tyler: Highly skilled, you’re right. Highly skilled— Logan: And works for some big names that you’d likely know if we told you. Tyler: Yeah, okay. We’re being all cutty right there because if we tell you we’d have to kill you, right? Logan: Right. Tyler: So basically we’re sitting around, we’re having lunch with this guy, we schmooze him up, and he’s like one of the coolest guys out there. He’s a total champion of dick and fart jokes. If anybody’s into that, then we’re going to be friends. So we’re hanging out and we’re at the restaurant. Logan’s got a little bit of a hangover. He’ll admit it, and he’s like— Logan: Yup. That’s because we were doing hardcore networking the night before. Tyler: And then he goes, “Can I get a side of ten pieces of bacon for an appetizer?” The waiter was like, “What? Yeah, I guess that’s cool” and so Logan gets a side of ten pieces of bacon. Logan: That wasn’t even the start. The reason why I asked for that side was the night before, like 3 o’clock in the morning when we were wrapping up the schmoozing, a guy was talking about, “Oh, I’m going to go buy a pound of bacon for breakfast.” That set the wheels in motion so I was feeling like bacon. So that was the start. That was the beginning. Tyler: I got you. So he orders some bacon. Needless to say, our topic of conversation becomes bacon for the next several hours. We went back to the seminar. We were out in the hall. We were schmoozing and talking about it. One of us just goes, “Hey! You should optimize the keyword ‘bacon’” and then hahaha, we’d made some jokes about it. He’s looking down at the ground and I look up at him and say, “What are you thinking about, man?” He goes, “I think I’m going to do it. I think I’m going to optimize bacon.” We’re like, “Okay, whatever.” We kind of shoved it off. So we got up, we went over to Starbucks to get a coffee, and you can just tell that he’s deep in thought. He just pulls out his camera and he turns it at Logan. He says, “Logan, tell me what you love about bacon. We’re doing this right now.” So he shoots the video thing and Logan gives his bacon testimonial. Then he goes, “Guys, I need a 350-word press release article in the next half hour and then I’m going to show you how we can optimize some bacon.” So if you guys are out there listening right now, go on Google and type in “bacon testimonial video.” You’re going to see a video of Logan talking about how he loves bacon. Logan: It is a very bad video, just be prepared for that. It’s horrible, whatever. Copyright © 2013 FitnessMoney.com All Rights Reserved
  • 10. Tyler: So anyways point being this has all led up to the point of us going like hey, this is funny, ha ha but let’s figure out a project how we can actually monetize bacon. So we went out to dinner that night until quite late. I think we were up until 3 or 3:30 in the morning. Logan: Oh, we were up 3, both nights in a row there. Tyler: Yeah. We were talking about how we plan to monetize bacon. Like I said, I’m not going to let the cat out of the bag just yet because there’s some really cool things going to happen here in the next probably two months but I can almost guarantee on this podcast that that project is going to be worth a minimum of probably $20,000 dollars. But I’m likely going to try to see if I can get it closer to that 100K mark because it would be very cool to stand up on a marketing stage and tell people that you were able to monetize bacon to the tune of six figures. Logan: It’s something that started as a joke. Now it’s completely planned out with multiple people involved in different roles and it’s going to be a fun project to work on. We’re not actually selling bacon. That’s the thing. We’re going to be selling information about bacon. Tyler: Yeah. It’s going to be good. It’s going to be really good. Some of the people that we networked with will most likely be a good fit for promoting the bacon product. Logan: Yeah, that’s kind of the thing. In getting with this business because we have multiple people involved, we’re now working on a project together which just solidifies that relationship and then allows for much more in the future. That was kind of why we just got started with it. “Oh, he wants us to write a press release. Let’s go do this.” So now we’re rolling with it. Like you said, it should be rocking and rolling in the future. Tyler: Oh, it could be rocking. All right? You know how bad I’m fighting, not to just be like, “Here’s what we’re going to do. Muahaha!” Logan: Right after we talked about don’t get sidetracked with side projects. Tyler: Yeah. Well, you know what’s the thing was? We say the side project thing and don’t get sidetracked with it but when an opportunity hits you in the face and you pause for a second and you think it through—because I know you saw my face that night when we started talking about monetization. That’s my whole gig. I love writing sales copy. I love looking at conversions. I love selling shit, right? It makes me feel good to know that I’m able to do that and so when I’m looking at it I’m like “Holy cow! This could be huge!” Logan: Well, it’s actually a really good idea in a big market so it definitely can be. Tyler: Exactly. I know I mean I’m doing like movement progressions, functional training, and stuff that I’m all totally passionate about but guess what? I’m also passionate about bacon. More importantly, I’m passionate that people should know that bacon isn’t bad. That’s why this product actually kind of rings near to my heart. I’m like we’re going to put all that science in there, talking about how bacon isn’t bad for you and everything like that. Copyright © 2013 FitnessMoney.com All Rights Reserved
  • 11. Then it’s all going to lead up to this really cool launch you guys should look forward to probably in—I’m crossing my fingers—in May. I’m thinking May would be the time we can actually launch this whole hatch to this whole project and everything. But if you guys are on our list, you’ll probably see some sneak peeks of the bacon monetization project early. So make sure you guys opt in online. We’re going to be giving you guys some cool freebies here in the next week or so that we’re going to be creating for you. So there’s a lot of cool things happening in Fitness Money land. Logan: So on to a related note, the networking, something that we did with a few of the people was to work to help promote them with their upcoming launches or just as a fun thing. We shot videos with people, which is a great thing you can do at events when you’re live, you’re both there, and having some fun with it. That is a great way to just produce content but it can also be tied in to some sort of sales pitch or just helping each other out. That was fun. I did a few of those with a few different guys and those were great. Tyler: It’s really powerful. The more you can help people, the more they’re likely to come back and help you. That’s what we talked about with this networking thing. In the online world, it is literally one of the most powerful ways you can skyrocket your business in a short amount of time. It’s just building those good relationships with people who you know can really make a change in your business. So networking is absolutely critical. The other thing is not being afraid to learn from the people who know what’s up. If you guys are shacked up in your house, you have a shitty personal training business, and you’re suffering and stuff like that, just know that sometimes you’ve got to make sacrifices to learn what you need to learn in order to build that successful business. I’m actually wearing the T-shirt right now but I remember I wanted to go train with Dennis Rogers years ago. This wasn’t a business thing but I wanted it so freaking bad and I had no money to do it. What I literally did was I literally sold some of my gym equipment in order to afford the trip to go meet Dennis Rogers, the world famous strongman. People told me I was bad shit crazy at the time but I will never regret that decision because that was one of the funnest events ever. I’ll never regret just what I learned over that weekend working with that guy. So sometimes you guys have got to just rip the band aid off when there’s a big opportunity, a big event. Just sell your kettlebells or whatever, like I did, and just make it happen because it could be an opportunity that changes the course of your life. Logan: Yeah. That’s what we’re looking for to achieve. You’ve really got to put yourself out there. You’ve got to take big risks in order to get the big benefits at the end. Tyler: Yeah, it’s like my buddy, Rick Kaselj. Says. It’s like the terminator, right? That was a good thing, though. Let’s recap that just real quick and then we’ll finish it up. He was up onstage talking about what he does in his business, how we visualizes himself. He’s like, “You’ve got to be like the Terminator. You’re running and you get shot a bunch of times then you fall over and you get back up. Then a mine goes off, next thing your arm blows off, and you pick it back up and you keep charging forward. Then Copyright © 2013 FitnessMoney.com All Rights Reserved
  • 12. your foot gets blown to pieces just like the Terminator. You just kept persisting and moving forward towards this goal no matter what happened.” That was a good visual. I actually have Rick coming up on my podcast on Monday, my other podcast, and I did ask him about the terminator question just to put him on the spot. I got him all embarrassed and stuff. Logan: That’s awesome. Some of the other key points because I really did like his speech not because it was just completely entertaining. I wasn’t really expecting that from Rick but it had really good nuggets in there, the idea to make a lot of noise. If you’re going out there and you don’t have the big dogs promoting you for an affiliate launch, for instance, but you have some people promoting for you and it’s doing well, if you just keep plugging away and doing that, you make noise and people take notice. You’ve actually had this happen to you also this past year so that’s a huge thing. Make a lot of noise then people will take notice. Tyler: Absolutely. Awesome, man. Well, if you guys dig this, leave us a review on iTunes. Be sure to come back to the Fitness Money page. Very soon we’re going to be having that special opt in. We’re going to give you 9 Ways to Make 1K in 30 Days, so nine ways to make an extra thousand dollars in your fitness business in just 30 days. Go to Facebook.com/FitnessMoneyPodcast and join us, like us, and leave some comments. Let us know if you guys have any questions about things you want to know about your fitness business. Otherwise, we’ll be blowing it up in 2013 on Fitness Money podcast. Logan: All right. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Fitness Money podcast. For more information on how you can make more money in your fitness business today, go to FitnessMoney.com or go to Facebook.Com/FitnessMoneyPodcast. Thanks so much for listening. We’ll see you next time. Copyright © 2013 FitnessMoney.com All Rights Reserved