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Improving cross desktop standard
Cedric BailCedric Bail
<cedric@efl.so><cedric@efl.so>
<cedric.bail@samsung.com><cedric.bail@samsung.com>
Who am I ?
• French free software developer in Korea
• Enlightenment developer since 2005
• Work for Samsung Mobile in Korea
• On Enlightenment Foundation Libraries
What is this talk about ?
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Give some context about Enlightenment
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Sharing experience
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Wayland usage
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Systemd usage
Why ?
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Improve link across community
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All about Free software
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Sharing experience and knowledge
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Lead to a better experience for everyone
Why ?
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Better communication across project !
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Seriously !
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Build better and stronger base for everyone
to use
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To get better standard, people need to
understand each other goal
Enlightenment ?
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X Windows manager started in 1997
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Enlightenment 0.17 released 21/12/2012
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Composite manager
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Wayland server
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Wrote our own C toolkit, EFL
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And our own terminal emulator
88
Enlightenment ?
< Screenshot of Enlightenment Window Manager >
Enlightenment ?
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Was GNOME windows manager more than
10 years ago.
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Due to a conflict between Carsten and
Miguel, each of them took their own path
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Argument was about the integration of the
windows manager with the desktop
Enlightenment ?
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The year of Linux Desktop will not happen
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The future will be in the embedded world
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That was in 2001 and defined where
Enlightenment community worked on.
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Goal :
– Serve us, developers
– Serve the embedded world
Enlightenment ?
●
In fact, this two goal where the same
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Need a buttload of options
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Light on CPU and memory usage
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Easily themable
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Easily adaptable to various screen and input
Performance matters ?
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Embedded device don't have
– Much memory
– Much CPU
– Much GPU, if at all
– Much battery
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In fact, optimizing for battery imply
optimizing for all the other goals !
Memory and battery ?
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Used memory need to be always powered
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Accessing memory use more energy than
accessing cache
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Embedded memory bandwidth don't
increase
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No swap
CPU and battery ?
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Obviously, the more you use it...
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What does use means with modern CPU :
– Have multiple core
– With different characteristic
– Change their clock
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Use as little as possible and make them go
back to sleep as soon as possible
GPU and battery ?
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Avoid fullscreen rendering
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Avoid memcpy (on the GPU to)
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No dependencies between frame
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Use hardware layer to avoid compositing
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If not, software compositor may be lighter
Battery ?
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Don't follow Moore's Law !
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Core i7 is as efficient as a Cortex A8 !
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Little hope into a Moore's Law for SoC power
consumption
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Battery will always be a limit
Battery ?
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EFL/E17 use 10% less battery than Android
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With Unity my laptop loose 1 hour of
autonomy according to powertop
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Closing my webbrowser give me 1 more
hour of autonomy
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True on a x86 laptop to !
Beyond desktop !
Beyond desktop !
Beyond desktop
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1.5 Billion Android device in 2013
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More than the number of desktop in use
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Developing country jumping on Android
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No free software
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Gate to our today life !
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As powerful as some laptop !
Specific software ?
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An application per device ?
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Screen variation ?
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Reading distance ?
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Input ?
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Optimized for mobile ?
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Not really specific !
Memory optimization
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Share content across application, mmap !
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Maybe finally a sensible .desktop
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Share glyph and pixels across applications
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Need help from the kernel to decide when
to really throw those data away
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Toolkit should agree on a common cache
Screen variation
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DPI is not enough
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Distance to screen matter
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Personnal sighseeing to
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Scale factor for all readable elements per
screen
=> Should be a cross desktop standard and
handle by toolkit
Input variation
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Not everyone has the same fingers !
Suspending
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Throw all cached ressource away
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Interact with the system nicely on suspend
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On iconify EFL application throttle
themselves (yes, sleep in the main loop)
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Drop frame rate when minimized
Wayland
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X is impossible to secure by design
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Designed more than 20 years ago
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Compositing was added later on
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A lot was learned
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It is a great time to clean stuff
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Needed to be competitiv
Wayland
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More efficient by design
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Should be better than Android
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Should be more secure
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Some backward compatibility for X apps
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Create more work on Composite Manager
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We need to all agree on the standard
Wayland
Wayland
Wayland
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First always compositing
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Handle Wayland client under X
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Become a full Wayland compositor
Systemd
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Enlightenment_start replacement
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More reliable
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Handle monitoring of many process
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Can monitor :
– Evas_Cserve2
– Elev8d
– Elm_Quicklaunch
Systemd
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Could it take care of more ?
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Launching/sandboxing application
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Converting .desktop
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Multi-instance application ?
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Toolkit pre-initialization daemon ?
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Maybe not a problem necessary to solve
Question ?

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Improving Cross Desktop Standard by Cedric BAIL (GNOME Asia Summit 2013)

  • 1.
  • 3. Who am I ? • French free software developer in Korea • Enlightenment developer since 2005 • Work for Samsung Mobile in Korea • On Enlightenment Foundation Libraries
  • 4. What is this talk about ? ● Give some context about Enlightenment ● Sharing experience ● Wayland usage ● Systemd usage
  • 5. Why ? ● Improve link across community ● All about Free software ● Sharing experience and knowledge ● Lead to a better experience for everyone
  • 6. Why ? ● Better communication across project ! ● Seriously ! ● Build better and stronger base for everyone to use ● To get better standard, people need to understand each other goal
  • 7. Enlightenment ? ● X Windows manager started in 1997 ● Enlightenment 0.17 released 21/12/2012 ● Composite manager ● Wayland server ● Wrote our own C toolkit, EFL ● And our own terminal emulator
  • 8. 88 Enlightenment ? < Screenshot of Enlightenment Window Manager >
  • 9. Enlightenment ? ● Was GNOME windows manager more than 10 years ago. ● Due to a conflict between Carsten and Miguel, each of them took their own path ● Argument was about the integration of the windows manager with the desktop
  • 10. Enlightenment ? ● The year of Linux Desktop will not happen ● The future will be in the embedded world ● That was in 2001 and defined where Enlightenment community worked on. ● Goal : – Serve us, developers – Serve the embedded world
  • 11. Enlightenment ? ● In fact, this two goal where the same ● Need a buttload of options ● Light on CPU and memory usage ● Easily themable ● Easily adaptable to various screen and input
  • 12. Performance matters ? ● Embedded device don't have – Much memory – Much CPU – Much GPU, if at all – Much battery ● In fact, optimizing for battery imply optimizing for all the other goals !
  • 13. Memory and battery ? ● Used memory need to be always powered ● Accessing memory use more energy than accessing cache ● Embedded memory bandwidth don't increase ● No swap
  • 14. CPU and battery ? ● Obviously, the more you use it... ● What does use means with modern CPU : – Have multiple core – With different characteristic – Change their clock ● Use as little as possible and make them go back to sleep as soon as possible
  • 15. GPU and battery ? ● Avoid fullscreen rendering ● Avoid memcpy (on the GPU to) ● No dependencies between frame ● Use hardware layer to avoid compositing ● If not, software compositor may be lighter
  • 16. Battery ? ● Don't follow Moore's Law ! ● Core i7 is as efficient as a Cortex A8 ! ● Little hope into a Moore's Law for SoC power consumption ● Battery will always be a limit
  • 17. Battery ? ● EFL/E17 use 10% less battery than Android ● With Unity my laptop loose 1 hour of autonomy according to powertop ● Closing my webbrowser give me 1 more hour of autonomy ● True on a x86 laptop to !
  • 20. Beyond desktop ● 1.5 Billion Android device in 2013 ● More than the number of desktop in use ● Developing country jumping on Android ● No free software ● Gate to our today life ! ● As powerful as some laptop !
  • 21. Specific software ? ● An application per device ? ● Screen variation ? ● Reading distance ? ● Input ? ● Optimized for mobile ? ● Not really specific !
  • 22. Memory optimization ● Share content across application, mmap ! ● Maybe finally a sensible .desktop ● Share glyph and pixels across applications ● Need help from the kernel to decide when to really throw those data away ● Toolkit should agree on a common cache
  • 23. Screen variation ● DPI is not enough ● Distance to screen matter ● Personnal sighseeing to ● Scale factor for all readable elements per screen => Should be a cross desktop standard and handle by toolkit
  • 24. Input variation ● Not everyone has the same fingers !
  • 25. Suspending ● Throw all cached ressource away ● Interact with the system nicely on suspend ● On iconify EFL application throttle themselves (yes, sleep in the main loop) ● Drop frame rate when minimized
  • 26. Wayland ● X is impossible to secure by design ● Designed more than 20 years ago ● Compositing was added later on ● A lot was learned ● It is a great time to clean stuff ● Needed to be competitiv
  • 27. Wayland ● More efficient by design ● Should be better than Android ● Should be more secure ● Some backward compatibility for X apps ● Create more work on Composite Manager ● We need to all agree on the standard
  • 30. Wayland ● First always compositing ● Handle Wayland client under X ● Become a full Wayland compositor
  • 31. Systemd ● Enlightenment_start replacement ● More reliable ● Handle monitoring of many process ● Can monitor : – Evas_Cserve2 – Elev8d – Elm_Quicklaunch
  • 32. Systemd ● Could it take care of more ? ● Launching/sandboxing application ● Converting .desktop ● Multi-instance application ? ● Toolkit pre-initialization daemon ? ● Maybe not a problem necessary to solve