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What are universities for?

Mariette Jones and Maureen Spencer
          Department of Law




                !
Public/private good(s)

‘Higher education institutions are more or less public
  and private according to the policy and funding
  configuration chosen for them. In turn that
  configuration always rests on one or another
  philosophical position.’ (Marginson p. 413)
Department for Business, Innovation
             and Skills
‘The Department for Business, Innovation and
  Skills is building a dynamic and competitive UK
  economy….to achieve this it will foster world
  class universities and promote an open global
  economy’.
Public good

• Democratic forms
• Openness
• Social criticism
Liberal higher education

• Euro- focused?
• Training for a certain kind of citizenship-
  individualist, rationalistic, belief in progress
104 Respondents




                                        Max possible
                                        respondents


                                                       respondents

                                                                     Percentage
                                                                     responded
                              Country
             51% (SA)




                                                       Actual
             (53 total)

18% (Mu)                      UK        143            31            22%
20 total
           30% (UK)
           31 total           SA        1700           53            3%


                              Maur-     60             20            33%
                              itius
Age & nationality

Under 21
85%                      Home
            22-29        students   International
            10%          75%        students 25%



                    5%
a) Universities should be funded by
            central government.
90
80
70
60
50                                                            Total
40                                                            UK
30                                                            SA
20                                                            Mau
10
0
     Strongly agree or agree   Neither agree nor   Disagree
                                   disagree
b) Universities should help develop the
                economy.
100
 90
 80
 70
 60
                                             Total
 50
                                             UK
 40
                                             SA
 30
                                             Mau
 20
 10
  0
      Agree   Neither agree nor   Disagree
                  disagree
d) Universities should encourage
         learning for its own sake.
90
80
70
60
50                                             Total
40                                             UK
30                                             SA
20                                             Mau
10
0
        Agree   Neither agree nor   Disagree
                    disagree
e) Universities should have concern for the
      public good as well as advancing the career
                ambitions of students.
100
 90
 80
 70
 60
                                                    Total
 50
                                                    UK
 40
                                                    SA
 30
                                                    Mau
 20
 10
  0
           agree     Neither agree nor   Disagree
                         disagree
g) Universities should only teach subjects
    which are useful for getting jobs.
            Total




 35%                42%
 Disagree           Agree

       20%
       Neither
n) Universities should train students
for work but it is not their only task.
             TOTAL

                       (Uni is)…a place where you
   13%                 learn more about yourself
   neither             ...it channels you to think as
                       an individual…
                       I have learnt to question the
                       things that I am surrounded
        81% agree      by .
k) It is still worth graduating from university
even though graduate job opportunities may be
                        limited.
100
 90                  “A job will be there for sure.. But a job
 80                      that I will suit best.. it is not the
                     course or subject that determines the
 70
                                      job (Mau)
 60
                                                                 TOTAL
 50
                                                                 UK
 40
                                                                 SA
 30
                                                                 Mau
 20
 10
  0
        Agree     Neither agree nor           Disagree
                      disagree
f) It is important to me that university staff
should conduct research into their disciplines as
              well as teach students.
                        Total
                  2%


            12%
                                      Agree

                                      Neither agree nor
                                      disagree
                                      Disagree
                  85%
i) Universities should be prepared to be
 critical of powerful elements in society.
90
80
70
60
50                                             TOTAL
40                                             UK
30                                             SA
20                                             Mau
10
0                                        6%
       Agree    Neither agree nor   Disagree
                    disagree
l) Being at a university has opened my
  mind to different ways of looking at the
                   world.
100
 90
 80
 70
 60
                                               TOTAL
 50
                                               UK
 40
                                               SA
 30
                                               Mau
 20
 10
  0
       Agree    Neither agree nor   Disagree
                    disagree
o) Universities should play a major role in
 fostering a democratic, inclusive society.
100
 90
 80
 70
 60
                                               TOTAL
 50
                                               UK
 40
                                               SA
 30
                                               Mau
 20
 10
  0
       Agree    Neither agree nor   Disagree
                    disagree
Q3: My main reason for coming to
        University was:
                    Total


         9%
                            To get a good job when I
                            leave
   26%                      To learn more about the
              65%           subject of my degree
                            Other
Some ‘other’ main reasons for coming
              to Uni:
• …now I know what it is that I want to be and
  that is to be an advocate not the chartered
  accountant that all career guidance
  counsellors thought would be fitting for me
  (SA)
• I do not want to ever be faced with limitations
  or the ' you can not do this ' phrase (SA)
• to educate one self and pass knowledge to
  others (UK)
Q4: In what way do you think universities
differ from school and/or college (if at all)?

• University is harder
• They promote broad-mindedness and deeper
  level of thinking
• Universities encourage self learning.
• No one cares what you do and if you hand in
  your assignments. it's survival of the fittest
  and you fall and get up again before you finish
  your studies, that’s if you even finish.
Q5: Please complete the following
sentence: “In my opinion a university is a
             place where...”
• one gains independent learning skills (UK)
• you develop yourself as a person (UK)
• leaders learn (SA)
•  people of different backgrounds come
  together to learn and teach each other new
  things (SA)
• people grow (Mu)
• …start building the adult we want to be. (Mu)
Q6: Any further comment(s) on how you
   perceive the role and function of a
               university.
• link between society and economy (UK)
• …provides society with a source of educated and
  learned individuals capable filling up leadership
  roles … (UK)
• Opens opportunities to people who might not
  have them without universities. (UK)
• help me get out of poverty through getting a
  qualification (SA)
• To …shape those who will 'shape' tomorrow (Mu)
j) Universities should encourage in
students a sense of global rather than just
            national citizenship.
100
 90
 80
 70
 60
                                              TOTAL
 50
                                              UK
 40
                                              SA
 30
                                              Mau
 20
 10
  0
       Agree   Neither agree nor   Disagree
                   disagree
References
Collini S (2012) What are universities for?
  Penguin.
Midgeley R (2010) ‘South Africa: legal education
  in a transitional society’ in Stakeholders in the
                               Space/Time Options

                         ‘The dominant tendency fragments space
                         and cuts it up into pieces… it bases its
                         image of the forces occupying space on the
                         idea that space is a passive receptacle.’
                         H. Lefebvre The Production of Space
                         (2005) p89




  Law School Cownie F (ed) Hart.
Marginson S (2011) ‘Higher education and
  public good’. HEQ 411.

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  • 1. What are universities for? Mariette Jones and Maureen Spencer Department of Law !
  • 2. Public/private good(s) ‘Higher education institutions are more or less public and private according to the policy and funding configuration chosen for them. In turn that configuration always rests on one or another philosophical position.’ (Marginson p. 413)
  • 3. Department for Business, Innovation and Skills ‘The Department for Business, Innovation and Skills is building a dynamic and competitive UK economy….to achieve this it will foster world class universities and promote an open global economy’.
  • 4. Public good • Democratic forms • Openness • Social criticism
  • 5. Liberal higher education • Euro- focused? • Training for a certain kind of citizenship- individualist, rationalistic, belief in progress
  • 6. 104 Respondents Max possible respondents respondents Percentage responded Country 51% (SA) Actual (53 total) 18% (Mu) UK 143 31 22% 20 total 30% (UK) 31 total SA 1700 53 3% Maur- 60 20 33% itius
  • 7. Age & nationality Under 21 85% Home 22-29 students International 10% 75% students 25% 5%
  • 8. a) Universities should be funded by central government. 90 80 70 60 50 Total 40 UK 30 SA 20 Mau 10 0 Strongly agree or agree Neither agree nor Disagree disagree
  • 9. b) Universities should help develop the economy. 100 90 80 70 60 Total 50 UK 40 SA 30 Mau 20 10 0 Agree Neither agree nor Disagree disagree
  • 10. d) Universities should encourage learning for its own sake. 90 80 70 60 50 Total 40 UK 30 SA 20 Mau 10 0 Agree Neither agree nor Disagree disagree
  • 11. e) Universities should have concern for the public good as well as advancing the career ambitions of students. 100 90 80 70 60 Total 50 UK 40 SA 30 Mau 20 10 0 agree Neither agree nor Disagree disagree
  • 12. g) Universities should only teach subjects which are useful for getting jobs. Total 35% 42% Disagree Agree 20% Neither
  • 13. n) Universities should train students for work but it is not their only task. TOTAL (Uni is)…a place where you 13% learn more about yourself neither ...it channels you to think as an individual… I have learnt to question the things that I am surrounded 81% agree by .
  • 14. k) It is still worth graduating from university even though graduate job opportunities may be limited. 100 90 “A job will be there for sure.. But a job 80 that I will suit best.. it is not the course or subject that determines the 70 job (Mau) 60 TOTAL 50 UK 40 SA 30 Mau 20 10 0 Agree Neither agree nor Disagree disagree
  • 15. f) It is important to me that university staff should conduct research into their disciplines as well as teach students. Total 2% 12% Agree Neither agree nor disagree Disagree 85%
  • 16. i) Universities should be prepared to be critical of powerful elements in society. 90 80 70 60 50 TOTAL 40 UK 30 SA 20 Mau 10 0 6% Agree Neither agree nor Disagree disagree
  • 17. l) Being at a university has opened my mind to different ways of looking at the world. 100 90 80 70 60 TOTAL 50 UK 40 SA 30 Mau 20 10 0 Agree Neither agree nor Disagree disagree
  • 18. o) Universities should play a major role in fostering a democratic, inclusive society. 100 90 80 70 60 TOTAL 50 UK 40 SA 30 Mau 20 10 0 Agree Neither agree nor Disagree disagree
  • 19. Q3: My main reason for coming to University was: Total 9% To get a good job when I leave 26% To learn more about the 65% subject of my degree Other
  • 20. Some ‘other’ main reasons for coming to Uni: • …now I know what it is that I want to be and that is to be an advocate not the chartered accountant that all career guidance counsellors thought would be fitting for me (SA) • I do not want to ever be faced with limitations or the ' you can not do this ' phrase (SA) • to educate one self and pass knowledge to others (UK)
  • 21. Q4: In what way do you think universities differ from school and/or college (if at all)? • University is harder • They promote broad-mindedness and deeper level of thinking • Universities encourage self learning. • No one cares what you do and if you hand in your assignments. it's survival of the fittest and you fall and get up again before you finish your studies, that’s if you even finish.
  • 22. Q5: Please complete the following sentence: “In my opinion a university is a place where...” • one gains independent learning skills (UK) • you develop yourself as a person (UK) • leaders learn (SA) • people of different backgrounds come together to learn and teach each other new things (SA) • people grow (Mu) • …start building the adult we want to be. (Mu)
  • 23. Q6: Any further comment(s) on how you perceive the role and function of a university. • link between society and economy (UK) • …provides society with a source of educated and learned individuals capable filling up leadership roles … (UK) • Opens opportunities to people who might not have them without universities. (UK) • help me get out of poverty through getting a qualification (SA) • To …shape those who will 'shape' tomorrow (Mu)
  • 24. j) Universities should encourage in students a sense of global rather than just national citizenship. 100 90 80 70 60 TOTAL 50 UK 40 SA 30 Mau 20 10 0 Agree Neither agree nor Disagree disagree
  • 25. References Collini S (2012) What are universities for? Penguin. Midgeley R (2010) ‘South Africa: legal education in a transitional society’ in Stakeholders in the Space/Time Options ‘The dominant tendency fragments space and cuts it up into pieces… it bases its image of the forces occupying space on the idea that space is a passive receptacle.’ H. Lefebvre The Production of Space (2005) p89 Law School Cownie F (ed) Hart. Marginson S (2011) ‘Higher education and public good’. HEQ 411.