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strategy+business
issue 72 AUTUMN 2013
reprint 00204
by Theodore Kinni
Daniel Pink’s New Pitch
In today’s markets, we are all salespeople.
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Palantir, for example, have no for-
mal sales forces. They say that no-
body’s in sales because everyone is in
sales. Then there’s non-sales selling.
For instance, most of the jobs that
have been created in the U.S. in the
last 10 years have been in education
and healthcare, which are all about
selling behavior change.
In 2000, one in nine people in
the U.S. workforce was in sales; to-
day, one in nine people is still in
sales. And none of the salespeople I
interviewed in the course of doing
the stories that led up to this book fit
the old sales stereotype. They
weren’t wearing plaid jackets and
patting me on the back all the time,
and I didn’t feel the need to cleanse
the oil off myself afterward.
S+B: So how would you define
selling today?
PINK: I don’t think there’s a catch-
all term to describe selling, but for
me, moving is the closest word. I’m
trying to get you to go from here to
there. I can persuade you that the
Washington Nationals will win the
National League this year, but I’m
just changing your mind. Selling is
an exchange. If we’re colleagues and
I’m trying to get you to join my
team, you’re exchanging your time
and talent for the opportunity I’m
Daniel
Pink’s New
Pitch
In today’s markets, we
are all salespeople.
by Theodore Kinni
D
aniel Pink didn’t plan a
career exploring the world
of work as much as he gravi-
tated toward it. After studying lin-
guistics at Northwestern University
and law at Yale, he became an aide
to U.S. Secretary of Labor Robert
Reich, and then served as chief
speechwriter for Vice President Al
Gore. “When I had the opportunity
to dole out assignments, I kept the
ones about work, labor, business, eco-
nomics, and technology,” he recalls.
In 1997, disillusioned by the re-
alities of politics and burned out by
the workload, Pink quit to write un-
der his own byline. An article pub-
lished in Fast Company later that
year became the kernel for his
acclaimed first book, Free Agent
Nation: The Future of Working for
Yourself (Warner Books, 2002). It
plumbed the transition from em-
ployee to self-employment by mil-
lions of people much like Pink him-
self, and established a format that
Pink has been following ever since:
presenting a highly articulate, acces-
sible synthesis of a topic or trend and
a practical tool kit for putting it to
work at work.
Several more books followed,
bringing Pink into the ranks of the
world’s leading management think-
ers and speakers. His most recent
book, To Sell Is Human: The Surpris-
ing Truth about Moving Others (Riv-
erhead Books, 2012), explores a
topic ripe, perhaps even overripe, for
Pinkian synthesis. The very nature
of selling has been fundamentally
altered by digitization, which con-
tinues to render long-accepted sales
conventions irrelevant, yet, paradox-
ically, makes salespeople more im-
portant to companies and customers
than ever before.
S+B: We used to hear that selling
would cease to exist as a function—
that salespeople would be disinter-
mediated by the Internet. What
really happened?
PINK: Those predictions underesti-
mated how ingenious we would be
at creating new products and ser-
vices, all of which needed to be sold.
Yes, we have fewer people selling
music, but people are now selling ar-
tisanal foods and cloud computing.
The predictions also missed the
rise of small entrepreneurship,
which means more people are sell-
ing their own services. Someone like
me isn’t categorized as a salesperson
by the Bureau of Labor Statistics,
but I spend a huge amount of my
time trying to get other people to do
things. Moreover, sales is no longer
always a discrete function. The soft-
ware companies Atlassian and
Daniel Pink
leadingideas
PhotographbyRebeccaDrobis
2
leadingideas
hance your understanding of some-
one else, but if you have to go with
one, go with the analytical. I think
the evidence says very clearly that
people are able, especially in negoti-
ation and sales situations, to reach a
better deal for both sides when
they’re focused on interests.
S+B: There’s a great quote in the
book from the last Fuller Brush
Man about sales being “an ocean of
rejection.” How is buoyancy different
from the power of positive thinking?
PINK: A lot of the power of positive
thinking was not built on any evi-
dence. It was built on beliefs, some
of which turned out to be right. But
it wasn’t guidance from an empirical
perspective. [University of North
Carolina professor] Barbara Fred-
rickson has shown that positivity
enhances well-being when it’s in the
right balance. She has a three-to-one
ratio: Your positive emotions should
outnumber your negative emotions
by three to one. But if the ratio is
above 11 to one, you’re in la-la land.
Studies have also shown that
purely positive self-talk—“You can
do it,” the Bela Karolyi school—is
better than nothing. But it’s less ef-
fective than interrogative self-talk.
Asking, for example, “Can you do
this?” The early proponents of posi-
tive thinking would find that abhor-
rent: You’re questioning your ability?
But interrogative self-talk leads to
preparation and planning.
Also important is changing the
way you explain things. You can as-
cribe outcomes to internal or exter-
nal causes. If you lose a sale, it’s
giving you. It’s not denominated in
dollars, but I still think that’s sales.
I recognize there are headwinds
with sales because of the negative
connotations. I’d like to bike into
those headwinds and take back the
idea of selling, not in a namby-pam-
by, defensive way, but in a slightly
more sharp-elbowed, muscular way.
I say in my book that I want people
to see the act of selling in a new
light. It’s more urgent, more impor-
tant, and also more beautiful than
we realize. It requires some funda-
mentally human skills, and it has
become increasingly conceptual. As
the VP of sales of the Italian candy
company Perfetti Van Melle told
me, “We’ve gone from selling Men-
tos to selling insights about the con-
fections business.” You can’t get any
more conceptual than that.
S+B: You propose changing the ABC
sales mantra “Always be closing” to
“Attunement, buoyancy, and clarity.”
PINK: These qualities encompass
what you should do and how you
should be if you want to move other
people. For example, attunement is
the ability to understand where
someone else is coming from; it can
also be called perspective taking.
There’s a difference between
perspective taking and empathy that
I might have conflated in my book A
Whole New Mind [originally subti-
tled Moving from the Information
Age to the Conceptual Age (River-
head, 2005)]. I’ve since come to real-
ize that empathy is related to under-
standing someone’s emotional state
or feelings, whereas perspective tak-
ing is much more cognitive and ana-
lytical—it’s understanding some-
one’s interests. I think interests is the
key word here.
The facts say that both perspec-
tive taking and empathy can en-
probably not entirely your fault. But
if you explain it that way, it’s going
to be debilitating. If, after a rejec-
tion, you say, “Well, this always hap-
pens,” that’s just not true. [Univer-
sity of Pennsylvania professor]
Martin Seligman’s research has
shown that if you adopt an optimis-
tic explanatory style and widen your
ability to explain things with accu-
racy, you’ll be better off.
S+B: You define clarity as “the
capacity to help others see their
situations in fresh and more
revealing ways and to identify
problems that they didn’t realize
they had.” What role does framing
play in that?
PINK: Framing is curation, in a
more conceptual sense. You’re look-
ing all over the place and I’m saying,
“What’s significant is what’s here.”
I’m helping you separate the signal
from the noise. If you frame choices
in a digestible way, people are more
likely to pick something.
If I’m selling you a great used
car that has a minor nick, I’m going
to be tempted to park the car in such
a way that you won’t see the damage.
But research by [Tel Aviv University
professor] Danit Ein-Gar and [Stan-
ford University professors] Baba
Shiv and Zakary Tormala says that I
should point it out, because the nick
creates the context for everything
else. It helps frame the valuation of
the car. In some ways, you’re widen-
ing the frame when you do this.
You’re saying, “Oh, there’s a nick
there, but look at everything else.
The totality of it is really good.”
“I want people to see the act of selling in a new
light. It’s more urgent, more important, and also
more beautiful than we realize.”
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strategy+businessissue72
their room, or to pitching your idea
to a book publisher.
I didn’t want to give people a set
of custom Legos that builds only
one particular castle, even if that’s
an awesome way to build that par-
ticular castle. I’d rather give people a
rich set of basic building blocks,
which they can fashion into a pro-
cess of their own and constantly
evaluate. Sales processes tend to be
very algorithmic. And when people
get wedded to a process or to an al-
gorithm, they miss all kinds of other
clues and opportunities that could
be really valuable. +
Reprint No. 00204
Theodore Kinni
info@strategy-business.com
is senior editor for books at
strategy+business.
Of course, this depends on how
essential that nick is. There’s a big
difference between a blemish and a
scar. If it’s small thing, then widen-
ing the frame is actually helpful. If
it’s a substantive defect, then you
have to either explain that the defect
doesn’t matter as much as customers
think or lower the price.
S+B: In your final chapter,
you propose extending Robert
Greenleaf’s concept of servant
leadership to sales. Why are service,
purpose, and meaning such a
pervasive theme throughout your
books?
PINK: When you sit down and talk
to people about their work, you real-
ize that they’re spending at least half
of their waking hours on the job.
Their work is a window into who
they are. And I think that as human
beings, we aspire to do something
meaningful. All of us ask ourselves,
“OK, why does what I’m doing mat-
ter? What is my purpose?”
What’s exciting for companies
is that appealing to a sense of pur-
pose and meaning is very effective.
[Wharton professor] Adam Grant
has done some great research in this
area. In a study of people in a call
center raising money for a universi-
ty, he found that employees who
spent five minutes before their shift
reading letters from people who
were on the receiving end of the
scholarship money they raised more
than doubled their sales results.
S+B: To Sell Is Human is a pretty
rare sales book. It doesn’t provide
the reader with a sales process.
PINK: I did that consciously, be-
cause I don’t think there’s a one-size-
fits-all process to selling Winneba-
gos, to asking somebody out on a
date, to getting your kids to clean
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Daniel Pink's New Pitch

  • 1. strategy+business issue 72 AUTUMN 2013 reprint 00204 by Theodore Kinni Daniel Pink’s New Pitch In today’s markets, we are all salespeople.
  • 2. leadingideas 1 strategy+businessissue72 Palantir, for example, have no for- mal sales forces. They say that no- body’s in sales because everyone is in sales. Then there’s non-sales selling. For instance, most of the jobs that have been created in the U.S. in the last 10 years have been in education and healthcare, which are all about selling behavior change. In 2000, one in nine people in the U.S. workforce was in sales; to- day, one in nine people is still in sales. And none of the salespeople I interviewed in the course of doing the stories that led up to this book fit the old sales stereotype. They weren’t wearing plaid jackets and patting me on the back all the time, and I didn’t feel the need to cleanse the oil off myself afterward. S+B: So how would you define selling today? PINK: I don’t think there’s a catch- all term to describe selling, but for me, moving is the closest word. I’m trying to get you to go from here to there. I can persuade you that the Washington Nationals will win the National League this year, but I’m just changing your mind. Selling is an exchange. If we’re colleagues and I’m trying to get you to join my team, you’re exchanging your time and talent for the opportunity I’m Daniel Pink’s New Pitch In today’s markets, we are all salespeople. by Theodore Kinni D aniel Pink didn’t plan a career exploring the world of work as much as he gravi- tated toward it. After studying lin- guistics at Northwestern University and law at Yale, he became an aide to U.S. Secretary of Labor Robert Reich, and then served as chief speechwriter for Vice President Al Gore. “When I had the opportunity to dole out assignments, I kept the ones about work, labor, business, eco- nomics, and technology,” he recalls. In 1997, disillusioned by the re- alities of politics and burned out by the workload, Pink quit to write un- der his own byline. An article pub- lished in Fast Company later that year became the kernel for his acclaimed first book, Free Agent Nation: The Future of Working for Yourself (Warner Books, 2002). It plumbed the transition from em- ployee to self-employment by mil- lions of people much like Pink him- self, and established a format that Pink has been following ever since: presenting a highly articulate, acces- sible synthesis of a topic or trend and a practical tool kit for putting it to work at work. Several more books followed, bringing Pink into the ranks of the world’s leading management think- ers and speakers. His most recent book, To Sell Is Human: The Surpris- ing Truth about Moving Others (Riv- erhead Books, 2012), explores a topic ripe, perhaps even overripe, for Pinkian synthesis. The very nature of selling has been fundamentally altered by digitization, which con- tinues to render long-accepted sales conventions irrelevant, yet, paradox- ically, makes salespeople more im- portant to companies and customers than ever before. S+B: We used to hear that selling would cease to exist as a function— that salespeople would be disinter- mediated by the Internet. What really happened? PINK: Those predictions underesti- mated how ingenious we would be at creating new products and ser- vices, all of which needed to be sold. Yes, we have fewer people selling music, but people are now selling ar- tisanal foods and cloud computing. The predictions also missed the rise of small entrepreneurship, which means more people are sell- ing their own services. Someone like me isn’t categorized as a salesperson by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, but I spend a huge amount of my time trying to get other people to do things. Moreover, sales is no longer always a discrete function. The soft- ware companies Atlassian and Daniel Pink
  • 3. leadingideas PhotographbyRebeccaDrobis 2 leadingideas hance your understanding of some- one else, but if you have to go with one, go with the analytical. I think the evidence says very clearly that people are able, especially in negoti- ation and sales situations, to reach a better deal for both sides when they’re focused on interests. S+B: There’s a great quote in the book from the last Fuller Brush Man about sales being “an ocean of rejection.” How is buoyancy different from the power of positive thinking? PINK: A lot of the power of positive thinking was not built on any evi- dence. It was built on beliefs, some of which turned out to be right. But it wasn’t guidance from an empirical perspective. [University of North Carolina professor] Barbara Fred- rickson has shown that positivity enhances well-being when it’s in the right balance. She has a three-to-one ratio: Your positive emotions should outnumber your negative emotions by three to one. But if the ratio is above 11 to one, you’re in la-la land. Studies have also shown that purely positive self-talk—“You can do it,” the Bela Karolyi school—is better than nothing. But it’s less ef- fective than interrogative self-talk. Asking, for example, “Can you do this?” The early proponents of posi- tive thinking would find that abhor- rent: You’re questioning your ability? But interrogative self-talk leads to preparation and planning. Also important is changing the way you explain things. You can as- cribe outcomes to internal or exter- nal causes. If you lose a sale, it’s giving you. It’s not denominated in dollars, but I still think that’s sales. I recognize there are headwinds with sales because of the negative connotations. I’d like to bike into those headwinds and take back the idea of selling, not in a namby-pam- by, defensive way, but in a slightly more sharp-elbowed, muscular way. I say in my book that I want people to see the act of selling in a new light. It’s more urgent, more impor- tant, and also more beautiful than we realize. It requires some funda- mentally human skills, and it has become increasingly conceptual. As the VP of sales of the Italian candy company Perfetti Van Melle told me, “We’ve gone from selling Men- tos to selling insights about the con- fections business.” You can’t get any more conceptual than that. S+B: You propose changing the ABC sales mantra “Always be closing” to “Attunement, buoyancy, and clarity.” PINK: These qualities encompass what you should do and how you should be if you want to move other people. For example, attunement is the ability to understand where someone else is coming from; it can also be called perspective taking. There’s a difference between perspective taking and empathy that I might have conflated in my book A Whole New Mind [originally subti- tled Moving from the Information Age to the Conceptual Age (River- head, 2005)]. I’ve since come to real- ize that empathy is related to under- standing someone’s emotional state or feelings, whereas perspective tak- ing is much more cognitive and ana- lytical—it’s understanding some- one’s interests. I think interests is the key word here. The facts say that both perspec- tive taking and empathy can en- probably not entirely your fault. But if you explain it that way, it’s going to be debilitating. If, after a rejec- tion, you say, “Well, this always hap- pens,” that’s just not true. [Univer- sity of Pennsylvania professor] Martin Seligman’s research has shown that if you adopt an optimis- tic explanatory style and widen your ability to explain things with accu- racy, you’ll be better off. S+B: You define clarity as “the capacity to help others see their situations in fresh and more revealing ways and to identify problems that they didn’t realize they had.” What role does framing play in that? PINK: Framing is curation, in a more conceptual sense. You’re look- ing all over the place and I’m saying, “What’s significant is what’s here.” I’m helping you separate the signal from the noise. If you frame choices in a digestible way, people are more likely to pick something. If I’m selling you a great used car that has a minor nick, I’m going to be tempted to park the car in such a way that you won’t see the damage. But research by [Tel Aviv University professor] Danit Ein-Gar and [Stan- ford University professors] Baba Shiv and Zakary Tormala says that I should point it out, because the nick creates the context for everything else. It helps frame the valuation of the car. In some ways, you’re widen- ing the frame when you do this. You’re saying, “Oh, there’s a nick there, but look at everything else. The totality of it is really good.” “I want people to see the act of selling in a new light. It’s more urgent, more important, and also more beautiful than we realize.”
  • 4. leadingideas 3 strategy+businessissue72 their room, or to pitching your idea to a book publisher. I didn’t want to give people a set of custom Legos that builds only one particular castle, even if that’s an awesome way to build that par- ticular castle. I’d rather give people a rich set of basic building blocks, which they can fashion into a pro- cess of their own and constantly evaluate. Sales processes tend to be very algorithmic. And when people get wedded to a process or to an al- gorithm, they miss all kinds of other clues and opportunities that could be really valuable. + Reprint No. 00204 Theodore Kinni info@strategy-business.com is senior editor for books at strategy+business. Of course, this depends on how essential that nick is. There’s a big difference between a blemish and a scar. If it’s small thing, then widen- ing the frame is actually helpful. If it’s a substantive defect, then you have to either explain that the defect doesn’t matter as much as customers think or lower the price. S+B: In your final chapter, you propose extending Robert Greenleaf’s concept of servant leadership to sales. Why are service, purpose, and meaning such a pervasive theme throughout your books? PINK: When you sit down and talk to people about their work, you real- ize that they’re spending at least half of their waking hours on the job. Their work is a window into who they are. And I think that as human beings, we aspire to do something meaningful. All of us ask ourselves, “OK, why does what I’m doing mat- ter? What is my purpose?” What’s exciting for companies is that appealing to a sense of pur- pose and meaning is very effective. [Wharton professor] Adam Grant has done some great research in this area. In a study of people in a call center raising money for a universi- ty, he found that employees who spent five minutes before their shift reading letters from people who were on the receiving end of the scholarship money they raised more than doubled their sales results. S+B: To Sell Is Human is a pretty rare sales book. It doesn’t provide the reader with a sales process. PINK: I did that consciously, be- cause I don’t think there’s a one-size- fits-all process to selling Winneba- gos, to asking somebody out on a date, to getting your kids to clean
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