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3 Conversations You Need to Win
Q: #1 Reason Don’t Hit Quota?
A: Inability to Articulate Value!
Leads
Products
Process
Training
CRM
STATUSQUO
THREATENED
DEFINE
SOLUTION
REVIEW
VENDORS
CHOOSE
SOLUTION
-3 -1 +1 +2 +3-2
TERMSAND
CONDITIONS
DIFFERENTIATION
IDENTIFY
NEWNEEDS
MAXIMIZATION
Customer Conversation Continuum
Create Value Elevate Value Capture Value
Good Intentions. Wrong Instincts.
STATUSQUO
THREATENED
DEFINE
SOLUTION
REVIEW
VENDORS
CHOOSE
SOLUTION
-3 -1 +1 +2 +3-2
TERMSAND
CONDITIONS
DIFFERENTIATION
IDENTIFY
NEWNEEDS
Customer Conversation Continuum
Create Value
DISTINCT POINT OF VIEW
Status Quo
Threatened
Identify
NewNeeds
Define
Solution
Identify
Viable Vendors
Review
Approaches
Make
Decision
74
“Why Change?” “Why You”
COMMODITIZED CONVERSATION
26% %
BUYING VISION BAKE-OFF
-3 -1 +1 +2 +3-2
• Show inconsistencies in model
• Identify unconsidered needs
• Align with unspecified strengths
• Here’s what you say you need
• Here’s what we do different
• Here’s the benefit you will get
Changing someone’s mind
isn’t a question of pushing
new information on people
and trying to explain it in words.
It’s more about helping people
see the inconsistency in
themselves and then all of a
sudden the mental model will
shift naturally and easily.
Gary Klein, scientist and author
“The Power of Intuition” and “Seeing What Others Don’t”
New Brain
Designed for Analysis
Old Brain
Designed for Survival
Decision-Making Engine
Neuroscience
Social Psychology
Kahneman, D. and Tversky, A. (1984). “Choices, Values, and Frames.”
American Psychologist 39 (4): 341–350
GainLoss
Value
3X stronger preference
to avoid loss vs. acquire
gains = “Loss Aversion”
Prefer risk that might
mitigate a loss =
“Risk Seeking”
Outcome
“PROSPECT THEORY”
Identified
NEEDS
CAPABILITIESSpecified
Commoditized Conversation
Finding the Inconsistencies
NEEDS
Identified
Specified CAPABILITIES
UNKNOWN
STRENGTHS
UNCONSIDERED
NEEDS
Commoditized Conversation
Finding the Inconsistencies
Distinct Point
of View
12
Didn’t appreciate…. The
problem is as big or coming
as fast as you say?!
Didn’t realize… there was
even something to fix that
issue or annoyance?!
Didn’t know… that was a
problem I was having until
you pointed it out?!
Under-Valued
Un-Met
Unknown
CFO
CMO
CIO
More than typical Personas
M
Old Automation SS & DB New Competitor
SITUATIONDISPOSITION
Inconsistencies ……………………………….. Live Here!
STATUSQUO
THREATENED
DEFINE
SOLUTION
REVIEW
VENDORS
CHOOSE
SOLUTION
-3 -1 +1 +2 +3-2
TERMSAND
CONDITIONS
DIFFERENTIATION
IDENTIFY
NEWNEEDS
Customer Conversation Continuum
Create Value
STATUSQUO
THREATENED
DEFINE
SOLUTION
REVIEW
VENDORS
CHOOSE
SOLUTION
-3 -1 +1 +2 +3-2
TERMSAND
CONDITIONS
DIFFERENTIATION
IDENTIFY
NEWNEEDS
MAXIMIZATION
Customer Conversation Continuum
Create Value Elevate Value Capture Value
STATUSQUO
THREATENED
DEFINE
SOLUTION
REVIEW
VENDORS
CHOOSE
SOLUTION
-3 -1 +1 +2 +3-2
TERMSAND
CONDITIONS
DIFFERENTIATION
IDENTIFY
NEWNEEDS
Customer Conversation Continuum
Elevate Value
80%
decisions
10%
executive
contacts
80%
decisions
FEAR
PRODUCTKNOWLEDGE BUSINESSEXPERTISE
EXECUTIVES
VALUE 4X MORE
EXECUTIVES
VALUE 4X MORE
88%
PROFICIENT
24%
PROFICIENT
4X LESS
LIKELY
PRODUCTKNOWLEDGE BUSINESSEXPERTISE
EXECUTIVES
VALUE 4X MORE
88%
PROFICIENT
24%
PROFICIENT
4X LESS
LIKELY
BESTIN
CLASS
FOCUS2X
MORE
AVERAGE
COMPANIES
FOCUS
MORE
PRODUCTKNOWLEDGE BUSINESSEXPERTISE
BUSINESSVALUEGAP
Close the Business Value Gap
STATUSQUO
THREATENED
DEFINE
SOLUTION
REVIEW
VENDORS
CHOOSE
SOLUTION
-3 -1 +1 +2 +3-2
TERMSAND
CONDITIONS
DIFFERENTIATION
IDENTIFY
NEWNEEDS
Customer Conversation Continuum
Elevate Value
STATUSQUO
THREATENED
DEFINE
SOLUTION
REVIEW
VENDORS
CHOOSE
SOLUTION
-3 -1 +1 +2 +3-2
TERMSAND
CONDITIONS
DIFFERENTIATION
IDENTIFY
NEWNEEDS
MAXIMIZATION
Customer Conversation Continuum
Create Value Elevate Value Capture Value
STATUSQUO
THREATENED
DEFINE
SOLUTION
REVIEW
VENDORS
CHOOSE
SOLUTION
-3 -1 +1 +2 +3-2
TERMSAND
CONDITIONS
DIFFERENTIATION
IDENTIFY
NEWNEEDS
MAXIMIZATION
Customer Conversation Continuum
Capture Value
Your Price
I% increase in discounting
9% decrease
in operating
margin
A SLIPPERY SLOPE
Your Price
Their
Price
TYPICAL VIEW OF DISCOUNTING
Negotiating
Tactics
Selling to
business buyer
Deal moves to
purchasing
Your Price
Their
Price
WHAT’S REALLY HAPPENING
Negotiating
Tactics
Selling to
business buyer
Deal moves to
purchasing
Value Leaks
Demonstrating Value?
CHECKING BOXES
Demonstrating Value?
Giving Away Value
CHECKING BOXES
Exchanging Value
PIVOTAL AGREEMENTS
CHECKING BOXES
Demonstrating Value?
Giving Away Value
STATUSQUO
THREATENED
DEFINE
SOLUTION
REVIEW
VENDORS
CHOOSE
SOLUTION
-3 -1 +1 +2 +3-2
TERMSAND
CONDITIONS
DIFFERENTIATION
IDENTIFY
NEWNEEDS
MAXIMIZATION
Customer Conversation Continuum
Capture Value
STATUSQUO
THREATENED
DEFINE
SOLUTION
REVIEW
VENDORS
CHOOSE
SOLUTION
-3 -1 +1 +2 +3-2
TERMSAND
CONDITIONS
DIFFERENTIATION
IDENTIFY
NEWNEEDS
MAXIMIZATION
Customer Conversation Continuum
Create Value Elevate Value Capture Value
34
Homework
Develop distinct point of view to show ‘inconsistencies’
and defeat the status quo
Create business impact model that puts current state/
future state/ business change into financial context
Pre-build pivotal agreements to exchange value at critical
moments your prospects want you to give it away
Malcolm Gladwell
Scientist for Tipping Point
Morton M. Grodzins
What was the difference?
Gladwell told a better story!

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