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Clojure Web Dev History
Ikuru K @ Shibuya Java #19
About me:
- Web developer Work at Cybozu Startups, Inc
- Company Clojure Story: https://clojure.org/stories/cstap
- HN: iku000888
- https://github.com/iku000888
- https://twitter.com/iku000888
Clojure web dev history
1. Servlet + Clojure as a library (2007 ~ 2008)
2. Ring (2009)
a. Compojure
3. ‘Frameworks’
Year 2007: Clojure = Java Library
Dec 11, 2007 @ mailing list...
> I was also wondering what the web programming story is for
clojure. Is there a preferred approach?
Rich: Not yet. I hope to provide a simple servlet
implementation that will route requests to Clojure fns, and a
simple HTML macro system like CL-WHO et al. After that I
would be interested in input on how best to provide Clojure as
a web scripting engine like JSP
- https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/clojure/web|sort:date/clojure/YVoxROEaT6M/s9Pu-ZQ2PPgJ
Webjure (Jan 16, 2008)
- Servlet
- Dispatch to clj functions
- Basic HTML templating
- Basic sql/jdbc setup
- Ajax repl(!)
- 〜proof of concept
- https://github.com/tatut/Webjure
- https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/clojure/xC8HpZp5kMU/H-Y84DBXS7cJ
Trend: More with Clojure!
Java
Clojure
Clojure
Java(libs)
Break through: Ring (~2009)
- Request/response as clojure map
- Extensible via middleware
- Adapter with existing Java web servers (Jetty
etc)
- Inspired by Rack(Ruby), WSGI(Python)
- Dominant standard for Clojure web dev
- https://groups.google.com/d/msg/clojure/D3yXjLWqjyQ/Qq83HDO43BIJ
Compojure 〜2009
- Started off as a servlet Clojure stack
- Servlet adapter + HTML templating + routing
- Most of the features moved into Ring
- Now a routing Library
- To be replaced with ataraxy
- ‘ant run’ + build.xml
- https://github.com/weavejester/compojure/tree/2e01266bcdcaa2565d189205f392c301b7aeca65
Noir
- 1.0.0 on 2011
- Built on compojure
- Bundles Session, Cookies, Validation etc
- Quick Start = Initially extremely popular
- Lacked extensibility/flexibility
- Deprecated in 2012
Conjure 〜2010
- Aimed to be like Ruby on Rails
- Scaffolding
- Tasks via dedicated lein plugin
- MVC(?)
- Did not cross the chasm
- Lot to learn
- Might as well roll your own
Luminus
- Libraries combined for you
- Battery included
- lein new luminus foo-proj
- Customizable via lein template switch
- Optional cljs setup
- Maintained
- Very popular
Pedestal
- Ring: Middleware, Pedestal: Interceptor
- Backed by Cognitect
- Async support
Duct
- Stuart Sierra’s Component framework applied
to web development
- Component?
- Manage Lifecycle of app components
- DB, web server etc.
- System = reified object, not in code
Arachne
- Aims to be a full stack framework
- Developed by Cognitect Employee
- Currently in alpha, promising
Duct (2)
- Component lib replaced with Integrant
- Evolving into a full stack web framework with
inspirations from Arachne
- More lightweight compared to Arachne
Extra: asked
- @defn podcast https://defn.audio/
- Q: Pedestal?
- A: Features are cool, but never had to use it.
- Q: Arachne?
- A: Data centric approach was good, but
using was tedious, so made integrant + duct
Extra: Macchiato
- Ring on Node.js!
Summary
- , Everywhere
- Ecosystem built by community
- JVM: Arachne vs Duct
- Node.js: Macchiato?
Thanks!

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Clojure web dev history

  • 1. Clojure Web Dev History Ikuru K @ Shibuya Java #19
  • 2. About me: - Web developer Work at Cybozu Startups, Inc - Company Clojure Story: https://clojure.org/stories/cstap - HN: iku000888 - https://github.com/iku000888 - https://twitter.com/iku000888
  • 3. Clojure web dev history 1. Servlet + Clojure as a library (2007 ~ 2008) 2. Ring (2009) a. Compojure 3. ‘Frameworks’
  • 4. Year 2007: Clojure = Java Library
  • 5. Dec 11, 2007 @ mailing list... > I was also wondering what the web programming story is for clojure. Is there a preferred approach? Rich: Not yet. I hope to provide a simple servlet implementation that will route requests to Clojure fns, and a simple HTML macro system like CL-WHO et al. After that I would be interested in input on how best to provide Clojure as a web scripting engine like JSP - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/clojure/web|sort:date/clojure/YVoxROEaT6M/s9Pu-ZQ2PPgJ
  • 6. Webjure (Jan 16, 2008) - Servlet - Dispatch to clj functions - Basic HTML templating - Basic sql/jdbc setup - Ajax repl(!) - 〜proof of concept - https://github.com/tatut/Webjure - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/clojure/xC8HpZp5kMU/H-Y84DBXS7cJ
  • 7. Trend: More with Clojure! Java Clojure Clojure Java(libs)
  • 8. Break through: Ring (~2009) - Request/response as clojure map - Extensible via middleware - Adapter with existing Java web servers (Jetty etc) - Inspired by Rack(Ruby), WSGI(Python) - Dominant standard for Clojure web dev - https://groups.google.com/d/msg/clojure/D3yXjLWqjyQ/Qq83HDO43BIJ
  • 9. Compojure 〜2009 - Started off as a servlet Clojure stack - Servlet adapter + HTML templating + routing - Most of the features moved into Ring - Now a routing Library - To be replaced with ataraxy - ‘ant run’ + build.xml - https://github.com/weavejester/compojure/tree/2e01266bcdcaa2565d189205f392c301b7aeca65
  • 10. Noir - 1.0.0 on 2011 - Built on compojure - Bundles Session, Cookies, Validation etc - Quick Start = Initially extremely popular - Lacked extensibility/flexibility - Deprecated in 2012
  • 11. Conjure 〜2010 - Aimed to be like Ruby on Rails - Scaffolding - Tasks via dedicated lein plugin - MVC(?) - Did not cross the chasm - Lot to learn - Might as well roll your own
  • 12. Luminus - Libraries combined for you - Battery included - lein new luminus foo-proj - Customizable via lein template switch - Optional cljs setup - Maintained - Very popular
  • 13. Pedestal - Ring: Middleware, Pedestal: Interceptor - Backed by Cognitect - Async support
  • 14. Duct - Stuart Sierra’s Component framework applied to web development - Component? - Manage Lifecycle of app components - DB, web server etc. - System = reified object, not in code
  • 15. Arachne - Aims to be a full stack framework - Developed by Cognitect Employee - Currently in alpha, promising
  • 16. Duct (2) - Component lib replaced with Integrant - Evolving into a full stack web framework with inspirations from Arachne - More lightweight compared to Arachne
  • 17. Extra: asked - @defn podcast https://defn.audio/ - Q: Pedestal? - A: Features are cool, but never had to use it. - Q: Arachne? - A: Data centric approach was good, but using was tedious, so made integrant + duct
  • 18. Extra: Macchiato - Ring on Node.js!
  • 19. Summary - , Everywhere - Ecosystem built by community - JVM: Arachne vs Duct - Node.js: Macchiato?