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Marketers Are Friends,
Not Food
Kara Drapala
Agenda
• About Me/Intro
• NLPRank Case Study
• Communications 101
• Help Us Help You
• How to Not Go Crazy While Helping Us Help You
About Me
Kara Drapala
@kdraps
Social Media
Specialist
OpenDNS/Cisco
Alignment: CG
Why This Talk?
• Designed to help you get the most out of a relationship with
your Comms team
 Featuring: Real! World! Examples!
• We’ll cover best practices and potential pitfalls
• Hopefully give you some actionable advice you can use on
Monday
• Maybe we will also have fun
NLPRank:
• What: NLPRank is a threat detection model that utilizes Natural
Language Processing techniques.
 A “malicious dictionary of the Internet” to detect threats in real time
 Predicts opportunistic phishing attacks and attacks targeting high-
value victims
• Who:
 Research: Jeremiah O’Connor, Andrew Hay
 Communications: Stephen Lynch, Lynne Cox
NLPRank: Timeline of Events
• Jeremiah writes blog detailing his work with NLPRank
• Andrew forwards the blog to Communications Team
• Communications Team decides blog is newsworthy
• Meetings are held to fully understand concept and message
 Q: What is the “message”?
• Pitching begins
• Blog is picked up by numerous outlets, including Ars Technica, ThreatPost, etc.
• Jeremiah launches to world-wide acclaim* and all phishing** is gone forever
*Okay maybe not exactly world-wide acclaim.
**Also phishing may still be a thing.
From a Research Perspective
• The Good:
 Seized an opportunity for timely, newsworthy research
 Traveling from Research Land to Production Land to Media
Land
 “You can’t have your research in the dark.”
 Pleasantly surprised by industry reaction
• The Meh:
 Had to let go of the name
 Percival who?
 Not concerned with press, mainly with getting a working
system
• The Bad:
 Marketing and doing blogs takes away from dev time
 Video
From a Comms Perspective
• The Good:
 The researchers followed the process! OMGOMG!
 We got coverage on an innovative security story
 The Research team saw the system produce results
• The Meh:
 Delayed for 2-3 weeks:
 Meetings
 Pitching
• The Bad:
 Having to prove skills to researchers
 Communicating an extremely complex idea to the
media, while keeping stakeholders happy
Results
• Research team and Comms team established working
relationship
• Large amount of interest and coverage generated
• Higher profile for Jeremiah
• Solidifies our position as security innovators
Takeaways
• Communication is key
• Research needs to have an impactful story
• Sometimes you’re not the best spokesperson
 A reporter’s time is precious, and opportunities are
valuable
 Your words have consequences, whether you’re
independent or repping a company
• Reporter != Researchers
Reporters != Researchers
 Inhabitants of two separate universes
 They need things explained in a way they can understand
 Need to see dead bodies, smoking guns, blood, etc.
 Hacked ATMs, cars, etc.
 Vuln logos! Shiny!
 Reporters gonna report, researchers gonna research
 Their story isn’t just about you
 You can’t dictate what’s interesting to them, or when they can talk to
you
 Relationships matter, and your Comms team is managing those
relationships
Communications 101
• Who should you be looking for?
 Anyone with Communications or Public Relations in their title (varies
w/org), and who focus on security (if possible)
 May also work with Content Managers
• Internal/External
 Home team v. Agency
• Typical duties include:
 Media Outreach
 Media Planning
 Content Creation
 Social Media
 Executive Communications
 Crisis Communications
 Etc.
What can Comms do for you?
• Translation:
 Making sure your story fits the overall marketing strategy
 Making sure reporters know what the real story is
 Telling your story without making you look like a whackadoo
• Editing
 Reports
 Blogs
 Speaking submissions
• Personal brand management/protection
• Media training (Happening this weekend!)
 Interview support
 What to do when a reporter goes off the rails?
Help Us Help You: PROTIPS
• Communication is key, communication is key, communication is key
 More insight = 10x media outreach
 Let us know what you’re working on so we can ID potential stories ahead
of time
• We’re not the fun police: we’re not babysitters, we’re not censorship bodies
• Be ready to explain how your work affects a larger audience
• Be okay with hearing no
 Kill the baby
• Don’t blow us off
 We know what’s newsworthy and what’s not — it’s our JOB to know
• Commit for the long haul
 Don’t adopt a “one and done” interview mentality
Getting Help Without Getting Crazy:
• Be patient
• Just like attribution, trust is hard. But you should definitely trust us.
• If your Comms team is just the worst, you have options
 Product Marketing
 Product Managers
• Be cool with edits
 The technical details are up for discussion, but not the message
 Researchers write for researchers, and that’s okay.
• Look for the red flags
 If someone doesn’t ask questions after you’ve explained something
 If they can’t repeat it back to you in an accurate yet simplified manner
Speaking of red flags:
• How to get on the bad side of Comms:
• Acting on your own
• Not cooperating
• Not communicating
• Ditching interviews
• Missing deadlines
• Taking things personally
• Lashing out at reporters or other third parties
• Worrying about things you shouldn’t be worried about
If You Remember Nothing Else:
• Communication is key
• Patience is a virtue
• Be prepared to get edited and hear the word no
• Remember that your Comms/Marketing team is on your side, and that
they are professionals
• Reporters != Researchers
Thanks!
• kdrapala@cisco.com
• @kdraps

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Marketers Are Friends, Not Food: DerbyCon 2015

  • 1. Marketers Are Friends, Not Food Kara Drapala
  • 2. Agenda • About Me/Intro • NLPRank Case Study • Communications 101 • Help Us Help You • How to Not Go Crazy While Helping Us Help You
  • 3. About Me Kara Drapala @kdraps Social Media Specialist OpenDNS/Cisco Alignment: CG
  • 4. Why This Talk? • Designed to help you get the most out of a relationship with your Comms team  Featuring: Real! World! Examples! • We’ll cover best practices and potential pitfalls • Hopefully give you some actionable advice you can use on Monday • Maybe we will also have fun
  • 5. NLPRank: • What: NLPRank is a threat detection model that utilizes Natural Language Processing techniques.  A “malicious dictionary of the Internet” to detect threats in real time  Predicts opportunistic phishing attacks and attacks targeting high- value victims • Who:  Research: Jeremiah O’Connor, Andrew Hay  Communications: Stephen Lynch, Lynne Cox
  • 6. NLPRank: Timeline of Events • Jeremiah writes blog detailing his work with NLPRank • Andrew forwards the blog to Communications Team • Communications Team decides blog is newsworthy • Meetings are held to fully understand concept and message  Q: What is the “message”? • Pitching begins • Blog is picked up by numerous outlets, including Ars Technica, ThreatPost, etc. • Jeremiah launches to world-wide acclaim* and all phishing** is gone forever *Okay maybe not exactly world-wide acclaim. **Also phishing may still be a thing.
  • 7. From a Research Perspective • The Good:  Seized an opportunity for timely, newsworthy research  Traveling from Research Land to Production Land to Media Land  “You can’t have your research in the dark.”  Pleasantly surprised by industry reaction • The Meh:  Had to let go of the name  Percival who?  Not concerned with press, mainly with getting a working system • The Bad:  Marketing and doing blogs takes away from dev time  Video
  • 8. From a Comms Perspective • The Good:  The researchers followed the process! OMGOMG!  We got coverage on an innovative security story  The Research team saw the system produce results • The Meh:  Delayed for 2-3 weeks:  Meetings  Pitching • The Bad:  Having to prove skills to researchers  Communicating an extremely complex idea to the media, while keeping stakeholders happy
  • 9. Results • Research team and Comms team established working relationship • Large amount of interest and coverage generated • Higher profile for Jeremiah • Solidifies our position as security innovators
  • 10. Takeaways • Communication is key • Research needs to have an impactful story • Sometimes you’re not the best spokesperson  A reporter’s time is precious, and opportunities are valuable  Your words have consequences, whether you’re independent or repping a company • Reporter != Researchers
  • 11. Reporters != Researchers  Inhabitants of two separate universes  They need things explained in a way they can understand  Need to see dead bodies, smoking guns, blood, etc.  Hacked ATMs, cars, etc.  Vuln logos! Shiny!  Reporters gonna report, researchers gonna research  Their story isn’t just about you  You can’t dictate what’s interesting to them, or when they can talk to you  Relationships matter, and your Comms team is managing those relationships
  • 12. Communications 101 • Who should you be looking for?  Anyone with Communications or Public Relations in their title (varies w/org), and who focus on security (if possible)  May also work with Content Managers • Internal/External  Home team v. Agency • Typical duties include:  Media Outreach  Media Planning  Content Creation  Social Media  Executive Communications  Crisis Communications  Etc.
  • 13. What can Comms do for you? • Translation:  Making sure your story fits the overall marketing strategy  Making sure reporters know what the real story is  Telling your story without making you look like a whackadoo • Editing  Reports  Blogs  Speaking submissions • Personal brand management/protection • Media training (Happening this weekend!)  Interview support  What to do when a reporter goes off the rails?
  • 14. Help Us Help You: PROTIPS • Communication is key, communication is key, communication is key  More insight = 10x media outreach  Let us know what you’re working on so we can ID potential stories ahead of time • We’re not the fun police: we’re not babysitters, we’re not censorship bodies • Be ready to explain how your work affects a larger audience • Be okay with hearing no  Kill the baby • Don’t blow us off  We know what’s newsworthy and what’s not — it’s our JOB to know • Commit for the long haul  Don’t adopt a “one and done” interview mentality
  • 15. Getting Help Without Getting Crazy: • Be patient • Just like attribution, trust is hard. But you should definitely trust us. • If your Comms team is just the worst, you have options  Product Marketing  Product Managers • Be cool with edits  The technical details are up for discussion, but not the message  Researchers write for researchers, and that’s okay. • Look for the red flags  If someone doesn’t ask questions after you’ve explained something  If they can’t repeat it back to you in an accurate yet simplified manner
  • 16. Speaking of red flags: • How to get on the bad side of Comms: • Acting on your own • Not cooperating • Not communicating • Ditching interviews • Missing deadlines • Taking things personally • Lashing out at reporters or other third parties • Worrying about things you shouldn’t be worried about
  • 17. If You Remember Nothing Else: • Communication is key • Patience is a virtue • Be prepared to get edited and hear the word no • Remember that your Comms/Marketing team is on your side, and that they are professionals • Reporters != Researchers

Editor's Notes

  1. Vuln reporting every day, sometimes it can fit into a trend piece.