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Let's talk subDAO
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A subDAO is just another way of organizing people and work:
Autonomous working groups and projects that
are economically & relationally aligned to the superDAO
What is a SubDAO?
superDAO
subDAO
subDAO
subDAO
subDAO
IRL: ~Parents & subsidiary affiliate vendor
What is different about the subDAO?
The subDAO
can serve more
than 1 aligned
superDAO
The subDAO
may have its
own token /
income
The subDAO has
its own address*
The subDAO has a
lighter link to the
superDAO
The subDAO is
severable
superDAO
subDAO
subDAO
subDAO
subDAO subDAO
superDAO
0xb9EDE6f677133d483249
5. 4.
3.
1.
2.
Why should
you subDAO?
• SubDAOs create new value by allowing DAOs to
scale
• Maximize superDAO treasury (subtokens & ext.
revenue)
• Allow for a smaller (decentralized) central function
• Encourages greater degree of entrepreneurship
• Allows for non-core expansion
• Attract local talent - DAO-ing in your own language
• Risk - “easier” to turn off a subDAO (vs. a function)
• Legal Risk - superDAO <> subDAO****
When should you
subDAO?
• Profit - Is this working group generating revenue?
• Function - can superDAO survive w/o subDAO?
• Sustainability - Can the subDAO survive on its own?
• Staff - Are there full-time contributors?
• Novelty - Are the deliverables unique from the
parent?
What are the risks of a subDAO?
• Confusing action & progress “leading DAOs are doing it”
• Keeping incentives & principles aligned
• Failing to plan for turning off the subDAO
• Divestiture causes a loss of superDAO capability
• Reputational risk to the superDAO
• ROI Failure: missing / undefined OKRs = drain on resources
Sample subDAO:
subDAO Community Objective Responsibility Decision Making
Ops Providing guidance and support to
enable smooth DAO operations.
*People (onboarding, compensation, etc), *Quarterly Budget deployment, *Formally
add/remove signers from other teams, *Reporting - communication DAO information
(DAO activity, spending), *Communication standards (discord, notion)
2 of 3 social
Treasury Advance the treasury * Farming, *Meta-governance *Quarterly report 3 of 4 social
Partnership Developing and supporting strong
partnerships across the ecosystem.
Executing liquidity mining rewards.
*Partnerships (growth mechanism within protocol), *Implementing/supporting
partnerships (biz dev + technical), *Liquidity Mining Committee Ensuring that
liquidity mining rewards are decided upon each week, a snapshot vote is run & and
updates are pushed to the github repo on time each week, *Biz Dev - partnership
(due diligence)
2 of 3 social
Marketing Activating and educating the DAO
community.
*Marketing (education, awareness) *Events *Content creation 2 of 3 social
Grants (existing) Providing funding for project
development to support protocol
growth.
*Evaluating proposal, *Supporting projects, *Technical support 4 of 6 social
DAO Multisig
(existing)
Decisions made by teams that
require on-chain execution will be
performed by the DAO.
*Deployed using Gnosis Safe, *Guardians of the DAO 6 of 10 multisig
#with clearly defined decision making powers
Sample subDAO:
subDAO in three steps:
1. Educate: help stakeholders understand the pros/cons & flavors
2. Proposal: The subDAO is proposed via proposal
3. Migration: (after vote) the subDAO executes the plan**
subDAO in three steps: the template
2. subDAO IIP proposal template:
● What problem will the subDAO solve? or What opportunity does it create?
○ What services will the subDAO deliver? (accountability & reporting)
● Usual proposal questions (deliverables/KPIs, budget, staffing, etc.)
○ Human capital req. (compensation, priority hires, DSM+, work split)
● What services will it need from superDAO?
○ cNest, gNest, pNest, gNest, tNest
○ notion, discord, discourse, gsuite, snapshot, twitter, youtube, etc.
● What decisions will it / wont it make?
○ How will it make decisions? (BDFL? - 2 of 3 - snapshot?)
○ Who will be on the multisig? Who changes the multisig?
● Is the subDAO intending to work externally
○ What is the proposed revenue sharing?
○ Will there be a subtoken & what is the timeline?
● Who is the proposed subDAO DRI and the IC DRI?
● What is the transition plan to subDAO
Sources:
https://forum.balancer.fi/t/proposal-commission-quarterly-financial-reports-through-the-messari-hub/2318/19
https://forum.balancer.fi/t/blabs-x-community-update-january-12th-2022/2472 Jan 12
https://snapshot.org/#/balancer.eth/proposal/0x26bba9a2dbe293c88d7e6f1de7849a5c96f8376a7a7eac713bc5da0c35276a66 Jan 17th
https://forum.balancer.fi/t/draft-proposal-balancer-subdaos-formation/2428 Dec 21
https://boardroom.io/mstable/overview
https://twitter.com/_exeuntomnes/status/1518614708395253761
https://vote.mstable.org/#/proposal/0x94d14ba9751de865c4c9a71e48e5afc649b3c654619b20a0d6b5298ee91a0afa
https://newsletter.banklesshq.com/p/whats-a-subdao?s=r
https://pet3rpan.mirror.xyz/5nsl1Xnr-BwmNAPoNeMlghPiTFMhxNg4zE7suaR0sXc
https://forum.bankless.community/t/subdaos-classification-and-templatization/2681
https://forum.bankless.community/t/banklessdao-subdaos-and-subtokens/1481
https://coopahtroopa.mirror.xyz/7bfK9st2mvhxlla4XKotRjetq5-YhaiwqRwS8DhkD-o
https://twitter.com/0xfrehml/status/1518619825005805571?s=20&t=4yczArv_DtEXFaYwCDI5LA
https://twitter.com/0xfrehml/status/1518599753780674566?s=20&t=Qrt5McsNZc4H-lxBejib4Q
https://snapshot.org/#/balancer.eth/proposal/0x26bba9a2dbe293c88d7e6f1de7849a5c96f8376a7a7eac713bc5da0c35276a66
https://balancergrants.notion.site/balancergrants/Balancer-DAO-Super-Hub-7428019d324241669194060e57875815
https://docs.yearn.finance/contributing/governance/governance-and-
operations#:~:text=Since%20YIP%2D61%3A%20Governance%202.0,a%20sufficient%20level%20of%20decentralization
https://forum.sushi.com/t/sushi-dao-restructure-proposal/6282
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/affiliatedcompanies.asp
https://www.nortonrosefulbright.com/en/knowledge/publications/b304a31f/united-states-cross-border-guide-to-parent-company-liability-for-foreign-subsidiaries
https://casetext.com/case/city-of-long-beach-v-total-gas-power-n-am-inc
https://discord.com/channels/942575405607559178/961708214146199672/963056549171961856
https://governance.aave.com/t/proposal-aave-risk-dao/4729
https://governance.aave.com/uploads/short-url/qTpNfmL15D96bDHF8u8sDITra3u.pdf
https://governance.aave.com/t/arc-aave-community-grants-program/3642
https://gov.gitcoin.co/t/3-layers-to-a-dao-to-dao-partnership/10657

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Lets Talk subDAO

  • 2. A subDAO is just another way of organizing people and work: Autonomous working groups and projects that are economically & relationally aligned to the superDAO What is a SubDAO? superDAO subDAO subDAO subDAO subDAO IRL: ~Parents & subsidiary affiliate vendor
  • 3. What is different about the subDAO? The subDAO can serve more than 1 aligned superDAO The subDAO may have its own token / income The subDAO has its own address* The subDAO has a lighter link to the superDAO The subDAO is severable superDAO subDAO subDAO subDAO subDAO subDAO superDAO 0xb9EDE6f677133d483249 5. 4. 3. 1. 2.
  • 4. Why should you subDAO? • SubDAOs create new value by allowing DAOs to scale • Maximize superDAO treasury (subtokens & ext. revenue) • Allow for a smaller (decentralized) central function • Encourages greater degree of entrepreneurship • Allows for non-core expansion • Attract local talent - DAO-ing in your own language • Risk - “easier” to turn off a subDAO (vs. a function) • Legal Risk - superDAO <> subDAO****
  • 5. When should you subDAO? • Profit - Is this working group generating revenue? • Function - can superDAO survive w/o subDAO? • Sustainability - Can the subDAO survive on its own? • Staff - Are there full-time contributors? • Novelty - Are the deliverables unique from the parent?
  • 6. What are the risks of a subDAO? • Confusing action & progress “leading DAOs are doing it” • Keeping incentives & principles aligned • Failing to plan for turning off the subDAO • Divestiture causes a loss of superDAO capability • Reputational risk to the superDAO • ROI Failure: missing / undefined OKRs = drain on resources
  • 7. Sample subDAO: subDAO Community Objective Responsibility Decision Making Ops Providing guidance and support to enable smooth DAO operations. *People (onboarding, compensation, etc), *Quarterly Budget deployment, *Formally add/remove signers from other teams, *Reporting - communication DAO information (DAO activity, spending), *Communication standards (discord, notion) 2 of 3 social Treasury Advance the treasury * Farming, *Meta-governance *Quarterly report 3 of 4 social Partnership Developing and supporting strong partnerships across the ecosystem. Executing liquidity mining rewards. *Partnerships (growth mechanism within protocol), *Implementing/supporting partnerships (biz dev + technical), *Liquidity Mining Committee Ensuring that liquidity mining rewards are decided upon each week, a snapshot vote is run & and updates are pushed to the github repo on time each week, *Biz Dev - partnership (due diligence) 2 of 3 social Marketing Activating and educating the DAO community. *Marketing (education, awareness) *Events *Content creation 2 of 3 social Grants (existing) Providing funding for project development to support protocol growth. *Evaluating proposal, *Supporting projects, *Technical support 4 of 6 social DAO Multisig (existing) Decisions made by teams that require on-chain execution will be performed by the DAO. *Deployed using Gnosis Safe, *Guardians of the DAO 6 of 10 multisig #with clearly defined decision making powers
  • 9. subDAO in three steps: 1. Educate: help stakeholders understand the pros/cons & flavors 2. Proposal: The subDAO is proposed via proposal 3. Migration: (after vote) the subDAO executes the plan**
  • 10. subDAO in three steps: the template 2. subDAO IIP proposal template: ● What problem will the subDAO solve? or What opportunity does it create? ○ What services will the subDAO deliver? (accountability & reporting) ● Usual proposal questions (deliverables/KPIs, budget, staffing, etc.) ○ Human capital req. (compensation, priority hires, DSM+, work split) ● What services will it need from superDAO? ○ cNest, gNest, pNest, gNest, tNest ○ notion, discord, discourse, gsuite, snapshot, twitter, youtube, etc. ● What decisions will it / wont it make? ○ How will it make decisions? (BDFL? - 2 of 3 - snapshot?) ○ Who will be on the multisig? Who changes the multisig? ● Is the subDAO intending to work externally ○ What is the proposed revenue sharing? ○ Will there be a subtoken & what is the timeline? ● Who is the proposed subDAO DRI and the IC DRI? ● What is the transition plan to subDAO
  • 11. Sources: https://forum.balancer.fi/t/proposal-commission-quarterly-financial-reports-through-the-messari-hub/2318/19 https://forum.balancer.fi/t/blabs-x-community-update-january-12th-2022/2472 Jan 12 https://snapshot.org/#/balancer.eth/proposal/0x26bba9a2dbe293c88d7e6f1de7849a5c96f8376a7a7eac713bc5da0c35276a66 Jan 17th https://forum.balancer.fi/t/draft-proposal-balancer-subdaos-formation/2428 Dec 21 https://boardroom.io/mstable/overview https://twitter.com/_exeuntomnes/status/1518614708395253761 https://vote.mstable.org/#/proposal/0x94d14ba9751de865c4c9a71e48e5afc649b3c654619b20a0d6b5298ee91a0afa https://newsletter.banklesshq.com/p/whats-a-subdao?s=r https://pet3rpan.mirror.xyz/5nsl1Xnr-BwmNAPoNeMlghPiTFMhxNg4zE7suaR0sXc https://forum.bankless.community/t/subdaos-classification-and-templatization/2681 https://forum.bankless.community/t/banklessdao-subdaos-and-subtokens/1481 https://coopahtroopa.mirror.xyz/7bfK9st2mvhxlla4XKotRjetq5-YhaiwqRwS8DhkD-o https://twitter.com/0xfrehml/status/1518619825005805571?s=20&t=4yczArv_DtEXFaYwCDI5LA https://twitter.com/0xfrehml/status/1518599753780674566?s=20&t=Qrt5McsNZc4H-lxBejib4Q https://snapshot.org/#/balancer.eth/proposal/0x26bba9a2dbe293c88d7e6f1de7849a5c96f8376a7a7eac713bc5da0c35276a66 https://balancergrants.notion.site/balancergrants/Balancer-DAO-Super-Hub-7428019d324241669194060e57875815 https://docs.yearn.finance/contributing/governance/governance-and- operations#:~:text=Since%20YIP%2D61%3A%20Governance%202.0,a%20sufficient%20level%20of%20decentralization https://forum.sushi.com/t/sushi-dao-restructure-proposal/6282 https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/affiliatedcompanies.asp https://www.nortonrosefulbright.com/en/knowledge/publications/b304a31f/united-states-cross-border-guide-to-parent-company-liability-for-foreign-subsidiaries https://casetext.com/case/city-of-long-beach-v-total-gas-power-n-am-inc https://discord.com/channels/942575405607559178/961708214146199672/963056549171961856 https://governance.aave.com/t/proposal-aave-risk-dao/4729 https://governance.aave.com/uploads/short-url/qTpNfmL15D96bDHF8u8sDITra3u.pdf https://governance.aave.com/t/arc-aave-community-grants-program/3642 https://gov.gitcoin.co/t/3-layers-to-a-dao-to-dao-partnership/10657

Editor's Notes

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