COVERT INTEL- New Symbol and Tactical Armbands for 'new' Troops into . . . Ukraine.pdf

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COVERT INTEL: New Symbol and Tactical Armbands for "new"
Troops into . . . Ukraine
W O RLD H AL TU RNE R 17 O CTOBE R 2022 H ITS: 20561
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A new Symbol for military vehicles has been spotted near the Ukraine conflict, it is shown
below: A triangle with the number "2" inside it. In addition, a new tactical band, is also
now being observed on troops near the Ukraine conflict: Solid Red, as seen in the image
above.
These symbols and red tactical arm bands are being observed on military vehicles and
troops in Belarus.

Over the past week or so, Russia has successfully shipped at least 170 Tanks, 200
armored fighting vehicles, and about 100 artillery systems into Belarus. This past week, at
least nine-thousand (9,000) Russian troops also arrived in Belarus, but these are high-
level troops who take care of things like Logistics and supplies, for a much larger armed
force.
Word over Intelligence Circuits is that Russia already has twenty-thousand (20,000) field
troops inside Belarus, over and above the 9,000 "management" troops that arrived this
weekend. So the management level troops are already fully staffed to bring logistics and
supplies online for a larger force, very rapidly.
These facts and intel suggest the reason for the new Markings, the Tringle with the
number "2" inside it: A second front to the Ukraine war. This can be seen on the front of
the armored personnel carrier pictured below:

Intelligence analysts are now saying Belarus is likely to join Russia inside Ukraine within a
month, as a regional force under Russian Army command, without a declaration of war by
Belarus. Sort of like "Lend-Lease" which is done by the West for Ukraine, only this would
be Lend-Lease of people.

The details are not certain at this point, however.
It matters because, according to analysts, it will take a force of about two hundred
thousand to have a fully effective second front, able to come into Ukraine from the north,
lay siege to its capital, Kiev, and also to cut-off all NATO supply lines into Ukraine coming
from Poland.
A build up of that size force would be made far easier if Belarus contributes 80-100,000 of
its regular duty forces.
In a separate development, which lends credence to the notion that Belarus will shortly
become involved, the head of the Ministry of Emergency Situations of Belarus gave an
interview on TV and talked about "5,000 shelters in the country" while giving instructions
to citizens if an "emergency" suddenly arises. Clearly he's referring to outbreak of war
involving Belarus.
From a tactical standpoint, with winter rapidly approaching, laying siege to Kiev
would seem much easier if the Ukrainians are pinned down there for awhile without
electricity and heat, made weak by the cold and by hunger. Perhaps we now understand
Russia's recent change in tactics to target electric sub-stations and rail lines in Ukraine.
No electric usually means no heat. No rail lines make moving food much slower, making
for hungry people.
Stay tuned.
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Comments
+2# President Zelensky's New Puppy — paulattahoe 2022-10-18 11:52
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+2# Info on Ukraine — Getsum 2022-10-18 11:03
For a break in the "When China Invades the US" drama here is a bit more on what's supposedly going in Ukraine
www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/one-third-ukraines-power-stations-destroyed-who-warns-brutal-winter-coming
+1# █▓▒░ Ukrainians in Kyiv Try to Stop Russian Kamikaze Drones Before They Hit
░▒▓█ — Palehorse 2022-10-17 22:10
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(VIDEO)
truthsocial.com/@JackPosobiec/109185904725492637
truthsocial.com/@JackPosobiec/posts/109185685175658300
Lighting up the night sky.
truthsocial.com/@JackPosobiec/posts/109185876340710208
www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/ukrainians-kyiv-trying-stop-russian-kamikaze-drones-hit-targets-video/
+1# Arm bands Infohog — Infohog 2022-10-17 22:09
Listening to crosstalk, it seems the polish are putting on Ukrainian military uniforms, while in Ukraine. Perhaps Belarus is
distiguishing it’s self!
+1# Poland — chip 2022-10-18 10:35
JMO,, but Poland And the 3 Baltic
Countries are under the Illusion
Russia wants to incorporate them.
Putin has all he can do to handle
Russia,,he isn't interested in taking
on their problems. The only country
that seems to have any sense is
Hungary with Viktor Orban.
+4# Poland — chip 2022-10-18 10:40
In addition,, 1 tactical nuke into
that Polish air base supplying

Ukraine will cool Warsaw 's
Jets real fast.
+1# WHile you watch Ukraine — Srmay72 2022-10-17 20:19
The caravan of "LIGHT" CROSSES INTO GREECE TONIGHT t.me/BellumActaNews/85601
10000 PLUS MUSLIMS CAN YOU SEE THE PLAN YET SYRIA IS EXPLODING TURKEYS PART OF IT AND ITS "NATO
0# Invasion — codeblue 2022-10-18 15:29
Another aspect of "asymetrical" war. Why don't more people see these migrant caravans for what they are?
+6# Saudis to join BRICS..?. — J Grayman 2022-10-17 20:17
Good bye petrodollar!
South Africa Confirms Saudi Arabia Will Join BRICS Alliance with China and Russia and Move Away from US with
Explosive Consequences
www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/biden-legacy-south-africa-confirms-saudi-arabia-will-join-brics-alliance-china-
russia-move-away-us-explosive-consequences/
+5# RE: Saudis to join BRICS..?. — RockyMountainBeerMan 2022-10-17 21:02
.
Our cash ain't nothing but trash.
.
+1# Yep — JG62 2022-10-18 07:32
Coupons and tokens ...

+3# RE: COVERT INTEL: New Symbol and Tactical Armbands for "new" Troops into . . .
Ukraine — lmschofield44@hotmail.com 2022-10-17 20:11
Good grief!
+3# WWIII — Vercinge 2022-10-17 20:11
Мама Россия мама
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMbvDUVk5e4
+1# RE: WWIII — John Galt 2022-10-17 22:11
Quoting Vercinge:
Мама Россия мама
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMbvDUVk5e4
My apologies for the downvote, sir. I plead fat fingers.
+2# Imagine ....... — Doug Brown 2022-10-17 20:44
Imagine an American girl singing overt
praises to Jesus and glorifying her homeland.
Can you hear, racist? American centric?
Homophobic? Transphobic?
Wouldn't be tolerated.
+4# RE: Imagine ....... — mjc 2022-10-17 21:21
Quoting Doug Brown:
Imagine an American girl singing overt
praises to Jesus and glorifying her homeland.
Can you hear, racist? American centric?
Homophobic? Transphobic?
Wouldn't be tolerated.

Here you go.
There are TWO America's. Here's the good one:
youtu.be/FATQ0ayQXsA?t=36
+3# Very nice. — Doug Brown 2022-10-18 09:55
Very nice.
What's left is what's left.
-1# RE: COVERT INTEL: New Symbol and Tactical Armbands for "new" Troops into . . .
Ukraine — mjc 2022-10-17 19:59
The arm-band tape appeared to be a Ukrainian innovation. Ukraine had been using blue (clean release) painter's tape
for several months.
The red tape appears to be western 'medium adhesion' painter's tape.
'No tape' now goes from 'presumed Russian' to 'I don't know'.
Necessity is the mother of invention.....
-16# Vassal State — Ultimate Skeptic 2022-10-17 19:51
Russia's vassal state has been activated. I have never met a Belorussian woman.They are a poor country like mine, and
likely can't afford the luxury hotel I live next to.
Ukraine — Gunner 2022-10-17 19:42
Hmmmm so they will get the U.S. all jammed up deep in Eastern Europe and then the vile Chinese rat-bastards will
INVADE the U.S. Mainland as has been planned for sometime now. Be ready my fellow American patriots.
+1# Yep — SBGlett77 2022-10-17 21:21

You are right, Gunner !
I think a lot of people aren't comprehending your point: it's very easy to invade a coastline with weak or no defense, and
that's exactly what we are working towards, especially in California. China has been desiring "lebensraum" for its large
population and lopsided male-female ratio for at least 30 years, and more like 50. There is less and less general
opportunity for young people, which a large land grab/genocide would alleviate greatly.
There have been too many reports to count, over the last 15 years, of large garrisons of military-age men just being kept
on standby in Mexico and Canada. Many people see a China-compromised Turdeau, especially in the last 2 years, who
would tolerate these pre-invaders under some nonsensical pretense.
How compromised are our present leaders with respect to China ? Just ask Sen. Charles Grassley, who has tons of
evidence being ignored by the DOJ for political reasons. Would our leaders reassign troops, etc., to expose our own
heavy weapons to confiscation and re-use by the invaders ?
And finally, a few very credible seers born of the Spirit of God, in line with Joel 2:28-29, have seen China invading the
West coast. These visions and dreams date from 30-60 years ago. Surely the Lord God does nothing except He reveal His
secret to His servants the prophets ( find it in Amos ).
-3# No invasion — LostDutchman1 2022-10-17 20:39
I agree with the other poster. China has no interest in invading the West Coast. Why should they? They already have us
by the hoo hoo’s.
You have no idea what it takes to do an invasion and along similar lines I hear people talk about martial law or as some
idiots say “Marshall Law”.
All you need to do is study the Japanese and German internment camps in the US in the 1940’s and you’ll realize it’s a lot
of work and it takes a lot of people and supplies.
+2# RE: No invasion — PastorK 2022-10-18 10:13
Quoting LostDutchman1:
I agree with the other poster. China has no interest in invading the West Coast. Why should they? They already have us
by the hoo hoo’s.
You have no idea what it takes to do an invasion and along similar lines I hear people talk about martial law or as some
idiots say “Marshall Law”.
All you need to do is study the Japanese and German internment camps in the US in the 1940’s and you’ll realize it’s a lot
of work and it takes a lot of people and supplies.
Which is why they plan to kill us.

+2# China Invasion — MrBlotto 2022-10-17 21:24
They already have divisions of workers (troops) working on the NA continent.
Each factory setup in Canada or Mexico they require Chinese workers numbering 10-20k.
The ports of entry are owned by CCP.
Panama Canal is owned by CCP
CCP built deep water ports in Carribean
They have setup CCP police stations in major metro areas.
They own most politicians.
They are set to go. Once NATO moves against Russia, China will activatetheir forces here in North America.
The only thing US citizens have going for them is that China wants to capture the infrastructure intact.
-5# Oh please — RealAmericanPride 2022-10-17 20:18
Enough with china invasion of America. Will not happen. If America falls the powers that be will make sure china falls as
well. Logistically china does not stand a chance invading America.
+1# On please yourself — pmoore67 2022-10-18 07:38
They are already here with our permission.
I predict you will die with your back against the wall begging for mercy from a merciless Chinese soldier.
Just to trigger you...go listen to Jeff Nyquist.
+1# Don't think so — Barman 2022-10-17 20:03
Vietnam thumped the Chinks. They have people that can't fight. Logistics are impossible to carry out to our mainland.
Chinese men (one per family) would loose their lineage if killed. Too important to Chinese culture. The men are momma
boys and can't go without seeing their families for more than a couple weekends. Taiwan is a crap shoot for them and
you think they can invade our nation! I disagree !
+1# RE: Don't think so — PastorK 2022-10-18 10:17
Quoting Barman:
Vietnam thumped the Chinks. They have people that can't fight. Logistics are impossible to carry out to our mainland.
Chinese men (one per family) would loose their lineage if killed. Too important to Chinese culture. The men are momma
boys and can't go without seeing their families for more than a couple weekends. Taiwan is a crap shoot for them and
you think they can invade our nation! I disagree !

We've already been invaded. The treacherous W.D.C. people have allowed, even brought them into our nation.
0# Allowed, brought and — 389rivka@gmail.com 2022-10-18 12:15
..through our public schools, we now have home-grown, born & raised commies…also courtesy of “the treacherous WDC
people “.
Ukraine — Pariah Man 2022-10-17 19:39
Once Russian forces and equipment are all gathered together and deployed in Eastern Ukraine I’m afraid that it’ll be N A
T O
U S that will possibly nuke everyone and everything to try to slap Russia in the face hard enough to get them to cower
before them...... it’ll be hell on earth and nukes without number going off as the response of everyone and everything in
Eastern Ukraine being blackened.
+16# Possible outcome? — Willys-M38A1 2022-10-17 19:30
The American citizen Gonzalo Lira who lives in eastern Ukraine and who has become widely known for his accurate
analyzes of the war in that country is revealing.
As he says, a big change is coming in the war in Ukraine, a turning point in the next two weeks that will overturn all the
previous facts. The Russians are preparing something very big in Ukraine which he described as a huge operation to take
over all of Ukraine as the facts have changed. But the question he poses at the end is: Before the destruction of the Kiev
regime and defeat on the battlefield, will the "Washington psychopaths" use nuclear weapons? He gives 6 out of 10
chances for this to happen.
How? Most likely with some kind of provocation, as they tried to do in Syria with the constant threats to Damascus what
will follow if they use chemicals. Now the same scenario is repeating itself with nuclear. After all, the innumerable
Western reports about the use of nuclear weapons by Moscow are aimed at exactly this: I prepared public opinion for a
provocation. Gonzalo Lira reports that there are 30,000 Ukrainians in Bakhmut defending it. The order from Kyiv is "stay
put", but the Russians will soon understand. Another Ukrainian force between 30 and 40 thousand is preparing to make
a major attack on the city of Kherson. The Russians are evacuating the civilian population from there as the Ukrainians
want to level it. But 100,000 Russians are already behind Kherson and waiting. As Lira reports, the Ukrainians will fight
their last battles in Bakhmut and Kherson but they have no more strength left. As the Ukrainian professional Army says
the beginning of the conflict has been annihilated with estimates of up to 100,000 dead. The Ukrainian Army is now
barred from either recruits or foreign mercenaries. The Russians are fortifying themselves in Kherson. They let the
Ukrainians attack and then neutralize them with Artillery. They will do the same now. As he also mentions in relation to
the promotion of the Ukrainians in Kharkiv, the cost was high for Ukraine. “It doesn't matter how many square meters of
land you control, but how many of the enemy forces you destroy. This is how wars are won," he noted. Regarding
Belarus, he says that no one knows how many soldiers the Russians really have in that country, as the force of 10,000
men deployed there is only for command and control tasks. The enlistment of 300,000 men does not mean that they will
go to the front, but they will simply replace 300,000 fully trained soldiers who are the ones who will go to Ukraine for
the big offensive. Lira also says that Russia's Security Council head and former president Dmitry Medvedev, who

previously invited Kyiv to negotiations, has now set three non-negotiable conditions for ending the war: First, the de-
nationalization of Ukraine Second, de-Nazification of Ukraine and at the end of the day a change of leadership in Kyiv.
Moscow is not going to negotiate with the Zelensky regime. As he says the Russians are preparing something until the
middle of November, but what they are preparing will be big. Most likely, he says, they will launch a massive attack on
all fronts and in Kyiv, perhaps further west. Contrary to Western agencies that talk about shortages, Gonzalo Lira reports
that the Russian Air Force and Artillery have such a sufficient supply of ammunition that at today's rates they can bomb
for the next six months without interruption. Finally, concluding, the American mentions that Russia will occupy all of
Ukraine without leaving anything in between, and there comes the big question: Will the "psychopaths in Washington"
use nuclear weapons in their panic? He himself states that there is a 6 out of 10 chance of them doing so.
+3# War — Infohog 2022-10-17 22:23
I 100& agree with you! The WEF in Brussels and psychopath Obama Biden will lose at the election and in their rage start
WWlll. They are so arrogant they thing they can win and finally depop the world
-1# Gozo should be paid attention to ... — The Infant Phenomenon 2022-10-17 20:32
... but just out of curiosity about what you read or heard--Did Gonzo say WHY the Washington-London axis would be
willing to go nuclear?
What do they have to gain? Why is a Ukie Army victory in he field important enough to Washington-London so blow up
the whole world, including themselves?
By what calculus did he arrive at "6 out of 10"?
Do you have any reliable info on any of that?
+1# Reply — Willys-M38A1 2022-10-18 13:28
Georgia Guide stones in play. World population below 500 million as slaves to the elite and they do not care how it gets
done (war,covid,famine,etc) getting rid of the rest of us and how long it takes. When Nato and the United States sees
Ukraine going down and possible Europe being hit (Hal's latest article) the only way out is nuclear. Insanity rules. Maybe
a short a vicious and costly war in human lives then they come to their senses before all mankind is wiped away?
+9# Gonzo is based! — Moosie850 2022-10-17 19:34
That guy has the heart of a lion. God bless him for holding out as long as he has. I pray for his safety constantly. His
viewpoint and analysis is critical to my outlook on this entire conflict.

+12# Holy Spirit — Srmay72 2022-10-17 19:28
Down vote if you want but first thing the Holy Spirit said as I read this is Russia putting all these in one place now makes
a perfect target for evil. Think how this will play out if NATO DROPS A NUKE ON UKRAINE??? I PRAY PUTIN HAS
PROTECTION OVER THESE YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN FIGHTING MORE BANKERS WARS. MY SONS MISSLE RADAR SO I
DONT WANT HIM HOME IN A BODY BAG
+1# Roger this, over. — MANYROUNDS 2022-10-18 01:43
Srmay72, exactly, an ambush we are watching in the making. I Pray for your son, and all the sons out there, daughters
too, wherever they are from. Under the bus they throw us, no matter now, Help us oh Lord, to do right in your eyes. And
like Gunner said, be ready, lend the eye a terrible aspect....such is our portion.
+18# This Battle is Spiritual. — Doug Brown 2022-10-17 19:27
This war is spiritual.
It doesn't look like it, but it is.
It is a conflict is between Godly heterosexual
family values and gay and lesbian values.
That would normalize sodomy and
punish you if you disagree.
This conflict is between those that view
marriage as repressive and archaic, and those
that would honor and cherish the nuclear family.
This conflict is between cancel culture with its
censored thought, and freedom of thought.
LGBQ VS Normal.
Black lives matter VS freedom.
ANTIFA VS life.
This war is between Satan and his emissaries
VS Jesus Christ and life everlasting.
Transexuality VS normal.
This war is between the traditional and the
perversions.
Everything is different in this new equation.
The President of the United States bathed
naked with his daughter.
He's son has pictures of himself killing Chinese
Children via perverse sex acts.
America isn't representing the virtuous.
America represents evil.
Very tragic. Very sad.
Russia wants traditional family values.
America punishes you if you say that

Everything has become upside down.
+2# RE: This Battle is Spiritual. — Gunner 2022-10-17 19:46
Well the fact that the vast majority of us have been nothing but complete impotent do NOTHINGS actually has severe
Consequences. And we are going to have to pay lots and lots.
+1# Amen — ellis 2022-10-17 19:29
You are right on point.
Ukraine — meanize1962 2022-10-17 19:23
I personally believe someone brought colvin hear from another solar system probably the one I remember from a
previous life that was a lot like here they brought it here it was accidentally put on to us I believe on accident and that
Chinese leader looks like a private now I mean a prophet no cover policy amazing him in this country might survive this
the rest of us won't because there's ignorant they won't go looking into different cough shirts so different herbs and
things and it's the only thing that works other than making an artificial wave and then observatory and incorpating
things in it for 60 days or whatever the alcohol cop surfers a cure for every strain out there with covid no one needs to
die I was surprised about the 1918 flu when they couldn't find a cure for it and they went looking through all those serps
there must be even a cure for that with the alcohol cough syrups all pneumonians everything there shouldn't be no scars
on the ones either using that username those scard tissue lungs
Ukraine — Forrest Mosby 2022-10-18 11:19
Quoting meanize1962:
I personally believe someone brought colvin hear from another solar system probably the one I remember from a
previous life that was a lot like here they brought it here it was accidentally put on to us I believe on accident and that
Chinese leader looks like a private now I mean a prophet no cover policy amazing him in this country might survive this
the rest of us won't because there's ignorant they won't go looking into different cough shirts so different herbs and
things and it's the only thing that works other than making an artificial wave and then observatory and incorpating
things in it for 60 days or whatever the alcohol cop surfers a cure for every strain out there with covid no one needs to
die I was surprised about the 1918 flu when they couldn't find a cure for it and they went looking through all those serps
there must be even a cure for that with the alcohol cough syrups all pneumonians everything there shouldn't be no scars
on the ones either using that username those scard tissue lungs

But prior to the Sovekipoo the status of the pneumonia showing up in helicopter pilots in Vietnam and that was resistant
to all antibios was in doubt…Then it was found to be sourced from human excrement fertilized rice oaddies.Pilot's would
hover and breathe the bacteria mists…turns out Russia had an effective antibio all along but it was to their advantage to
let our pilots die-but then the surfing alcohol cops weighed in-I feel that once all the info comes in, the dogs will know
first, followed by cats and then elephants…The rest will follow in good time…Cyril says that the fault lies within the faults
themselves..I dont know..I only know what I know and I dont know that as is…but the USS Kelvin was involved and Im
not sure they are supposed to be(yet)..,,Odd
Ukraine — Beenjammin01 2022-10-17 21:53
Stop doing drugs, mmkay?
Ukraine — Beenjammin01 2022-10-17 21:53
Stops doing drugs, mmkay?
+6# Caught behind Enemy Lines. — Garyhines 2022-10-17 19:20
The United States and Nato is going to get caught behind Enemy Lines.plus don't forget China is in the shadows waiting
to strike. Now that Biden has litterly sanctioned China over Chip manufacturing.and turning it over to Taiwan. This will
start War with China. We are now walking on a Razor Edge.China has already told their people to leave Ukraine.which
means something imminent coming real fast if I was Russia & Belarus I would cut off Kyiv and start cutting areas off near
Poland .the nuclear Chess game is being played now. NATO might get check mated before you know it.
Ukraine — TexasWolf 2022-10-17 19:15
Godspeed. Ukraine is a festering wound. Time to cauterize it.
-9# Hal cover covid — meanize1962 2022-10-17 19:15
Cover the colvin news I think we're all going to die soon we have to have a battle plan to live through this forget about
that Russia and Ukraine stuff Mr Turner that's very upsetting news it's on Fox news's web page front page at around

7:00 p.m. tonight Eastern Time this is the most awesome news I've ever seen or heard I suspected it but I thought it was
a fake virus because they were saying people were carrying it for 14 days I only heard of the 5 days before science
teachings this is something you should stay on track and we should all try to live through this together it's just a matter
of time before this train hits us
-12# Very important — meanize1962 2022-10-17 19:08
Off the beaten subject I looked up Fox news's website the most upsetting news I've ever seen in a lifetime they mixed
original covid with the new strain that's out there and 80% of the rats died it kills 80% of the folks it could be the next
train down the line 80% of us could be dead soon and remember I said this I've lived through this before on another
earth-like planet no one's listening to me take your three teaspoons of alcohol medicine that's what does it the alcohol
cough syrup they have to look through the different strains that will cure you that will stop 78 out of 80% of the people
from dying take it from an expert that's lived through it three times before it's because it's you go around sick for 5 days
before you show symptoms you infect others those are the worst kind those that could end up killing everybody on the
planet 3 days ain't as serious they can't get as serious five days they can this is teachers from another planet that is way
above here remember this when you all are starting to get sick and die as the doctors to do the alcohol medicine it
protects against the covid pneumonia and everything and everything and I'm not making it up and I'm not wrong at all
I've lived before I've been through this before and it's I've always carried it with me it's memories I've had all my life
+13# MSM to eat Crow, — oldschool 2022-10-17 18:57
Going to be a day "NO ONE" will be able to deny, when Russia conquers the entire Ukraine.
-1# I'd like a specific definition ... — The Infant Phenomenon 2022-10-17 20:54
... of what they mean by "conquer." Too vague. Could mean several things. Whose word is that? Did Gonzo use that
word, or did somebody retelling Gonzo's story use that word?
+2# Was curious about that ... — Lexie 2022-10-17 18:57
Thanks Hal I was curious about that triangle with the number 2 in the middle..I saw it yesterday but couldn't figure it
out.
+22# Lord have mercy. — Moosie850 2022-10-17 18:30
Forgive them Father, they know not what they do. May the lives lost in this coming doom know the love, grace and
mercy of Jesus Christ.

In the name of the Father, the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
Amen
+7# RE: Lord have mercy. — 23499 2022-10-17 19:19
[quote name="Moosie850"]Forgive them Father, they know not what they do. May the lives lost in this coming doom
know the love, grace and mercy of Jesus Christ.
In the name of the Father, the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.
***
Forgive me, but they know EXACTLY what they do. May God protect his people.
Those whom know not what they do implies Innocence, yet there is no such one among mortal men - just those
redeemed through the blood of Lord Jesus Christ.
+3# Was it worth it? — Moosie850 2022-10-17 19:29
I don’t think that they do. Otherwise it wouldn’t be happening, but you kinda have a point. We’re in for the long haul.
God bless you. Judgement is coming.
-1# That Fake Selco — Forrest Mosby 2022-10-17 18:29
Site was full of all sorts of good advice on how to live w/o heat and lights but that turned out to be two dudes in Africa
shamming people or some such so I dont know if Id listen to him( them)
+4# Fair make shift heat..... — LilBirdie 2022-10-17 18:56
Good old kerosene lamps.
If your place is even slightly insulated this will keep it livable.
5 lamps gave off enough heat to keep me warm in -0°. I was in a 37 ft5th wheel with the upper part closed off.
Wasn't the warmest night I ever had but it was livable.
What'd ya know worked as lights too!
It takes on average 5 gals of kerosene to run 1 lamp for 1 year.
I know this from 8 years off grid.

+3# Kerosene lamps — Marlena 2022-10-17 19:44
Quoting LilBirdie:
My experience with kerosene heaters (not lamps) is that they soot up your ceiling and put toxic combustion gases into
your home. OK in an emergency but not ideal.
Better option is the Webasto-type diesel parking heater (for RV's)--which is a heat-exchanger forced air unit (like your
regular furnace). Burns about a quart of diesel per 24 hours--blows clean heated air into the house, sends combustion
exhaust outside--requires small 12 volt current to operate fan (car battery). Price has gone up...$179 on Amazon.
0# RE: Kerosene lamps — PastorK 2022-10-18 10:33
Quoting Marlena:
Quoting LilBirdie:
My experience with kerosene heaters (not lamps) is that they soot up your ceiling and put toxic combustion gases into
your home. OK in an emergency but not ideal.
Better option is the Webasto-type diesel parking heater (for RV's)--which is a heat-exchanger forced air unit (like your
regular furnace). Burns about a quart of diesel per 24 hours--blows clean heated air into the house, sends combustion
exhaust outside--requires small 12 volt current to operate fan (car battery). Price has gone up...$179 on Amazon.

The Webasto doesn't look very home friendly.
0# Thanks — Maccdale 2022-10-17 20:31
For the tip. Much appreciated.
0# RE: Fair make shift heat..... — 23499 2022-10-17 19:22
Quoting LilBirdie:
Great info, thanks
+3# RE: Fair make shift heat..... — The Deplorable Renegade 2022-10-17 19:13
Not everyone can stand the smell of kerosene fuel.
+2# Kerosene during war? — Loki 2022-10-17 19:12
Where would you get this kerosene during war?
0# Kerosene — northshorepaul 2022-10-17 19:25
Quoting Loki:
Where would you get this kerosene during war?

Amazon Prime.
0# Ebay — pmoore67 2022-10-18 07:47
Screw Amazon.
0# 2nd — PSKYWAY 2022-10-17 18:15
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