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How to understand the ROI
of investing in People
U s i n g E m p l o y e e L i f e t i m e Va l u e t o
a r t i c u l a t e R O I
Maia Josebachvili

VP of Strategy & People
@MaiaJo_
R O I I S H A R D E R TO M E A S U R E W I T H P E O P L E
M O S T C O M PA N I E S D O T W O T H I N G S
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YEAR 2
100K
YEAR 1
50K
Marketing leads per year
Q1
1 Year
Q2
Q3
Q4
P R O D U C T R O A D M A P P L A N
6 Months
P R O D U C T R O A D M A P P L A N
Q1
Q2
Q3
Q4
Employee Lifetime Value
How?ELTV
Too many 

variables
Too

subjective
Difficult to assign

value to people
T H E C A L C U L AT I O N P R O B L E M
Don’t calculate.
Compare.
ELTV model
Put it into action
Compare two scenarios
Framework
H o d i e O r d o
F I G N º 0 1
TIME
-6
-4
-2
0
2
4
6
8OUTPUT
T H E E M P L O Y E E L I F E C Y C L E
Start
Fully contributing
Decision to leave
Last day
ELTV
TIME
-6
-4
-2
0
2
4
6
8OUTPUT
R A I S I N G T H E B A R
How quickly 

they ramp
TIME
-6
-4
-2
0
2
4
6
8OUTPUT
R A I S I N G T H E B A R
How high someone can go
How quickly 

they ramp
TIME
-6
-4
-2
0
2
4
6
8OUTPUT
R A I S I N G T H E B A R
How high someone can go How much higher 

they go over time
How quickly 

they ramp
TIME
-6
-4
-2
0
2
4
6
8OUTPUT
R A I S I N G T H E B A R
How high someone can go How much higher 

they go over time
How long they stay
How quickly 

they ramp
TIME
-6
-4
-2
0
2
4
6
8OUTPUT
T H E E M P L O Y E E L I F E C Y C L E
How high someone can go How much higher 

they go over time
How long they stay
How quickly 

they ramp
TIME
-6
-4
-2
0
2
4
6
8OUTPUT
T H E E M P L O Y E E L I F E C Y C L E
How high someone can go How much higher 

they go over time
How long they stay
How quickly 

they ramp
Onboarding
Hiring Management &
Development
Management &
Culture
PER YEAR
600K
PER YEAR
60K
QuotaSalary
A S S U M P T I O N
CASE 1
6 months to ramp and 

consistently hit quota
A better onboarding
program can decrease 

ramp time by 30%1
CASE 2
4 months to ramp and

constituently hit quota
1. Organizations with a strong onboarding process improve new hire
retention by 82% and productivity by over 70%. (Brandon Hall, The
True Cost of a Bad Hire, 2015)
O N B O A R D I N G
A S S U M P T I O N
CASE 1
6 months to ramp and 

consistently hit quota
CASE 2
4 months to ramp and

constituently hit quota
A better onboarding
program can decrease 

ramp time by 30%1
O N B O A R D I N G
1. Organizations with a strong onboarding process improve new hire
retention by 82% and productivity by over 70%. (Brandon Hall, The
True Cost of a Bad Hire, 2015)
A S S U M P T I O N
1. A study from the Boston Consulting Group shows that recruiting is
the HR function with the highest impact on revenue. Excellent
recruiting practices contribute to more than 3x revenue growth and 2x
profit margins.
A better hire can
outperform a peer 

by 20%1
CASE 2
Consistently surpasses 

monthly sales quota by

bringing on $60k per month
Consistently hits $50k 

per month sales quota
CASE 1
H I R I N G
A S S U M P T I O N
A better hire can
outperform a peer 

by 20%1
CASE 2
Consistently surpasses 

monthly sales quota by

bringing on $60k per month
Consistently hits $50k 

per month sales quota
CASE 1
H I R I N G
1. A study from the Boston Consulting Group shows that recruiting is
the HR function with the highest impact on revenue. Excellent
recruiting practices contribute to more than 3x revenue growth and 2x
profit margins.
A S S U M P T I O N
1. Companies that hire managers based on their management skills
saw a 48% increase in profitability. (State of the American Manager,
Gallup, April 2015)
Great management and
development practices
can improve an
employee’s performance
by 20% in a year1
CASE 2
Goes from $60k in monthly
sales to $72k in monthly
sales in year 2
Continues to hit $50k
per month sales quota
CASE 1
M A N A G E M E N T & D E V E L O P M E N T
A S S U M P T I O N
CASE 2
Goes from $60k in monthly
sales to $72k in monthly
sales in year 2
Continues to hit $50k
per month sales quota
CASE 1
M A N A G E M E N T & D E V E L O P M E N T
1. Companies that hire managers based on their management skills
saw a 48% increase in profitability. (State of the American Manager,
Gallup, April 2015)
Great management and
development practices
can improve an
employee’s performance
by 20% in a year1
A S S U M P T I O N
1. 36% of people switching jobs left because they were “unsatisfied
with the work environment / culture” of their previous employer. (Why
and How People Change Jobs, LinkedIn, 2015)
A great culture,
coupled with good
management, can
increase employee
tenure by one year1
CASE 2
Continues to thrive for
another year
Starts to look for a new 

job 20 months in; leaves 

after 2 years
CASE 1
C U LT U R E & M A N A G E M E N T
A S S U M P T I O N
1. 36% of people switching jobs left because they were “unsatisfied
with the work environment / culture” of their previous employer. (Why
and How People Change Jobs, LinkedIn, 2015)
A great culture,
coupled with good
management, can
increase employee
tenure by one year1
CASE 2
Continues to thrive for
another year
Starts to look for a new 

job 20 months in; leaves 

after 2 years
CASE 1
C U LT U R E & M A N A G E M E N T
P U T T I N G I T A L L TO G E T H E R : 3 - Y E A R O V E RV I E W
P U T T I N G I T A L L TO G E T H E R : 3 - Y E A R O V E RV I E W
$1,300,000
2.5x
Making the case
F r u c t u s L a b o r i s
F I G N º 3
Typical
(tactical) conversations
Don’t have

enough people
We’re

swamped
Need to

hire more
TIME
-6
-4
-2
0
2
4
6
8OUTPUT
Start
Fully contributing
Decision to leave
Last day
ELTV
R E V I S I T I N G E M P L O Y E E L I F E T I M E VA L U E
R E V I S I T I N G E M P L O Y E E L I F E T I M E VA L U E
E X A M P L E
Proposal

Template
G R E E N H O U S E P R O P O S A L
Situation Analysis
W h a t ’s t h e c u r r e n t s t a t e o f t h i n g s ? 

U s e d a t a a n d i n f o r m a t i o n f r o m y o u r
c o m p a n y a n d s u p p o r t i n g d a t a f r o m e x t e r n a l
s t u d i e s .
Proposed Solution
H o w d o y o u ‘ c o m b a t ’ t h e p r o b l e m , 

o r l e v e r a g e t h e o p p o r t u n i t y ?
E X A M P L E
Proposal

Template
G R E E N H O U S E P R O P O S A L
Return on Investment
I n v e s t m e n t r e q u i r e d a n d b u s i n e s s i m p a c t .
Obstacles, Challenges
and Open Questions
N o p l a n i s f r e e f r o m o b s t a c l e s . 

B e u p f r o n t a b o u t w h a t t h o s e a r e .
E X A M P L E
Proposal

Template
G R E E N H O U S E P R O P O S A L
Situation Analysis
As we’ve grown as a company, our culture is not as strong
as it was when we first started. As a result, engagement
and attrition are becoming more of a concern for our
organization.
•At [OUR.CO], our employee engagement survey scores
have been decreasing for two quarters in a row and our
attrition has gone from 10% to 15%.
•At [OUR.CO], our hiring plan predicts to be 50% bigger
in one year, meaning a large portion of the company
won’t have the institutional knowledge of our original,
start-up culture.
• 36% of people switching jobs left because they were
“unsatisfied with the work environment / culture” of their
previous employer. (Why and How People Change Jobs,
LinkedIn, 2015)
E X A M P L E
Proposal

Template
G R E E N H O U S E P R O P O S A L
Proposed Solution
Make ’Nurturing a Culture’ a company-wide initiative

• Hire an Employee Experience Specialist to coordinate
efforts

•Allocate a culture budget of 3% of total salary load to be
used for culture-related activities

• Have the CEO report on progress quarterly so that
everyone understands this is an important priority
E X A M P L E
Proposal

Template
G R E E N H O U S E P R O P O S A L
Return on Investment
Business impact

By improving our culture, we believe we can increase
average tenure by 3 months and drive up the employee
lifetime value (ELTV). We estimate this to be a deferred cost
savings of $500,000 over the course of two years.
Investment required

• Employee Experience Specialist to oversee the program
($50k/year)
• Culture budget ($100k/year based on 3% of total salary
load)
E X A M P L E
Proposal

Template
G R E E N H O U S E P R O P O S A L
Obstacles, Challenges,
& Open questions
Improving our culture will not be successful if it is
only a “People” initiative.
This initiative will need significant manager
involvement and buy-in in creation and execution of
initiatives. Specifically, we’ll need:
• Managers to focus on the engagement survey
results and address their issues with their teams.
•CEO to report on progress during all-hands
meetings
•Attendance at culture events from senior
leadership
G R E E N H O U S E P R O P O S A L
Return on Investment
I n v e s t m e n t r e q u i r e d a n d b u s i n e s s i m p a c t .
Situation Analysis
W h a t ’s t h e c u r r e n t s t a t e 

o f t h i n g s ? U s e d a t a a n d i n f o r m a t i o n 

f r o m y o u r c o m p a n y a n d s u p p o r t i n g 

d a t a f r o m e x t e r n a l s t u d i e s .
Proposed Solution
H o w d o y o u ‘ c o m b a t ’ t h e p r o b l e m , 

o r l e v e r a g e t h e o p p o r t u n i t y ?
Obstacles, Challenges
and Open Questions
N o p l a n i s f r e e f r o m o b s t a c l e s . B e u p f r o n t
a b o u t w h a t t h o s e a r e .
E X A M P L E
Proposal

Template
Employee Lifetime Value
Inputs: onboarding, hiring,
development, management
& culture
Relative value vs absolute
numbersTakeaways
H o d i e O r d o
F I G N º 0 1
Small improvements can
have a 6x return on ELTV
4
Articulate the return; don’t
ask for investment
5
@MaiaJo_
maia@greenhouse.io
G R E E N H O U S E . I O

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How to Understand the ROI of Investing in People - CMX Summit West 2016

  • 1. How to understand the ROI of investing in People U s i n g E m p l o y e e L i f e t i m e Va l u e t o a r t i c u l a t e R O I Maia Josebachvili
 VP of Strategy & People @MaiaJo_
  • 2.
  • 3. R O I I S H A R D E R TO M E A S U R E W I T H P E O P L E
  • 4. M O S T C O M PA N I E S D O T W O T H I N G S Ctrl C Ctrl V + Copy others Underinvest
  • 6. Q1 1 Year Q2 Q3 Q4 P R O D U C T R O A D M A P P L A N
  • 7. 6 Months P R O D U C T R O A D M A P P L A N Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
  • 9. Too many 
 variables Too
 subjective Difficult to assign
 value to people T H E C A L C U L AT I O N P R O B L E M
  • 11. ELTV model Put it into action Compare two scenarios Framework H o d i e O r d o F I G N º 0 1
  • 12. TIME -6 -4 -2 0 2 4 6 8OUTPUT T H E E M P L O Y E E L I F E C Y C L E Start Fully contributing Decision to leave Last day ELTV
  • 13. TIME -6 -4 -2 0 2 4 6 8OUTPUT R A I S I N G T H E B A R How quickly 
 they ramp
  • 14. TIME -6 -4 -2 0 2 4 6 8OUTPUT R A I S I N G T H E B A R How high someone can go How quickly 
 they ramp
  • 15. TIME -6 -4 -2 0 2 4 6 8OUTPUT R A I S I N G T H E B A R How high someone can go How much higher 
 they go over time How quickly 
 they ramp
  • 16. TIME -6 -4 -2 0 2 4 6 8OUTPUT R A I S I N G T H E B A R How high someone can go How much higher 
 they go over time How long they stay How quickly 
 they ramp
  • 17. TIME -6 -4 -2 0 2 4 6 8OUTPUT T H E E M P L O Y E E L I F E C Y C L E How high someone can go How much higher 
 they go over time How long they stay How quickly 
 they ramp
  • 18. TIME -6 -4 -2 0 2 4 6 8OUTPUT T H E E M P L O Y E E L I F E C Y C L E How high someone can go How much higher 
 they go over time How long they stay How quickly 
 they ramp Onboarding Hiring Management & Development Management & Culture
  • 20. A S S U M P T I O N CASE 1 6 months to ramp and 
 consistently hit quota A better onboarding program can decrease 
 ramp time by 30%1 CASE 2 4 months to ramp and
 constituently hit quota 1. Organizations with a strong onboarding process improve new hire retention by 82% and productivity by over 70%. (Brandon Hall, The True Cost of a Bad Hire, 2015) O N B O A R D I N G
  • 21. A S S U M P T I O N CASE 1 6 months to ramp and 
 consistently hit quota CASE 2 4 months to ramp and
 constituently hit quota A better onboarding program can decrease 
 ramp time by 30%1 O N B O A R D I N G 1. Organizations with a strong onboarding process improve new hire retention by 82% and productivity by over 70%. (Brandon Hall, The True Cost of a Bad Hire, 2015)
  • 22. A S S U M P T I O N 1. A study from the Boston Consulting Group shows that recruiting is the HR function with the highest impact on revenue. Excellent recruiting practices contribute to more than 3x revenue growth and 2x profit margins. A better hire can outperform a peer 
 by 20%1 CASE 2 Consistently surpasses 
 monthly sales quota by
 bringing on $60k per month Consistently hits $50k 
 per month sales quota CASE 1 H I R I N G
  • 23. A S S U M P T I O N A better hire can outperform a peer 
 by 20%1 CASE 2 Consistently surpasses 
 monthly sales quota by
 bringing on $60k per month Consistently hits $50k 
 per month sales quota CASE 1 H I R I N G 1. A study from the Boston Consulting Group shows that recruiting is the HR function with the highest impact on revenue. Excellent recruiting practices contribute to more than 3x revenue growth and 2x profit margins.
  • 24. A S S U M P T I O N 1. Companies that hire managers based on their management skills saw a 48% increase in profitability. (State of the American Manager, Gallup, April 2015) Great management and development practices can improve an employee’s performance by 20% in a year1 CASE 2 Goes from $60k in monthly sales to $72k in monthly sales in year 2 Continues to hit $50k per month sales quota CASE 1 M A N A G E M E N T & D E V E L O P M E N T
  • 25. A S S U M P T I O N CASE 2 Goes from $60k in monthly sales to $72k in monthly sales in year 2 Continues to hit $50k per month sales quota CASE 1 M A N A G E M E N T & D E V E L O P M E N T 1. Companies that hire managers based on their management skills saw a 48% increase in profitability. (State of the American Manager, Gallup, April 2015) Great management and development practices can improve an employee’s performance by 20% in a year1
  • 26. A S S U M P T I O N 1. 36% of people switching jobs left because they were “unsatisfied with the work environment / culture” of their previous employer. (Why and How People Change Jobs, LinkedIn, 2015) A great culture, coupled with good management, can increase employee tenure by one year1 CASE 2 Continues to thrive for another year Starts to look for a new 
 job 20 months in; leaves 
 after 2 years CASE 1 C U LT U R E & M A N A G E M E N T
  • 27. A S S U M P T I O N 1. 36% of people switching jobs left because they were “unsatisfied with the work environment / culture” of their previous employer. (Why and How People Change Jobs, LinkedIn, 2015) A great culture, coupled with good management, can increase employee tenure by one year1 CASE 2 Continues to thrive for another year Starts to look for a new 
 job 20 months in; leaves 
 after 2 years CASE 1 C U LT U R E & M A N A G E M E N T
  • 28. P U T T I N G I T A L L TO G E T H E R : 3 - Y E A R O V E RV I E W
  • 29. P U T T I N G I T A L L TO G E T H E R : 3 - Y E A R O V E RV I E W $1,300,000 2.5x
  • 30. Making the case F r u c t u s L a b o r i s F I G N º 3
  • 31. Typical (tactical) conversations Don’t have
 enough people We’re
 swamped Need to
 hire more
  • 32. TIME -6 -4 -2 0 2 4 6 8OUTPUT Start Fully contributing Decision to leave Last day ELTV R E V I S I T I N G E M P L O Y E E L I F E T I M E VA L U E
  • 33. R E V I S I T I N G E M P L O Y E E L I F E T I M E VA L U E
  • 34. E X A M P L E Proposal
 Template G R E E N H O U S E P R O P O S A L Situation Analysis W h a t ’s t h e c u r r e n t s t a t e o f t h i n g s ? 
 U s e d a t a a n d i n f o r m a t i o n f r o m y o u r c o m p a n y a n d s u p p o r t i n g d a t a f r o m e x t e r n a l s t u d i e s . Proposed Solution H o w d o y o u ‘ c o m b a t ’ t h e p r o b l e m , 
 o r l e v e r a g e t h e o p p o r t u n i t y ?
  • 35. E X A M P L E Proposal
 Template G R E E N H O U S E P R O P O S A L Return on Investment I n v e s t m e n t r e q u i r e d a n d b u s i n e s s i m p a c t . Obstacles, Challenges and Open Questions N o p l a n i s f r e e f r o m o b s t a c l e s . 
 B e u p f r o n t a b o u t w h a t t h o s e a r e .
  • 36. E X A M P L E Proposal
 Template G R E E N H O U S E P R O P O S A L Situation Analysis As we’ve grown as a company, our culture is not as strong as it was when we first started. As a result, engagement and attrition are becoming more of a concern for our organization. •At [OUR.CO], our employee engagement survey scores have been decreasing for two quarters in a row and our attrition has gone from 10% to 15%. •At [OUR.CO], our hiring plan predicts to be 50% bigger in one year, meaning a large portion of the company won’t have the institutional knowledge of our original, start-up culture. • 36% of people switching jobs left because they were “unsatisfied with the work environment / culture” of their previous employer. (Why and How People Change Jobs, LinkedIn, 2015)
  • 37. E X A M P L E Proposal
 Template G R E E N H O U S E P R O P O S A L Proposed Solution Make ’Nurturing a Culture’ a company-wide initiative
 • Hire an Employee Experience Specialist to coordinate efforts
 •Allocate a culture budget of 3% of total salary load to be used for culture-related activities
 • Have the CEO report on progress quarterly so that everyone understands this is an important priority
  • 38. E X A M P L E Proposal
 Template G R E E N H O U S E P R O P O S A L Return on Investment Business impact
 By improving our culture, we believe we can increase average tenure by 3 months and drive up the employee lifetime value (ELTV). We estimate this to be a deferred cost savings of $500,000 over the course of two years. Investment required
 • Employee Experience Specialist to oversee the program ($50k/year) • Culture budget ($100k/year based on 3% of total salary load)
  • 39. E X A M P L E Proposal
 Template G R E E N H O U S E P R O P O S A L Obstacles, Challenges, & Open questions Improving our culture will not be successful if it is only a “People” initiative. This initiative will need significant manager involvement and buy-in in creation and execution of initiatives. Specifically, we’ll need: • Managers to focus on the engagement survey results and address their issues with their teams. •CEO to report on progress during all-hands meetings •Attendance at culture events from senior leadership
  • 40. G R E E N H O U S E P R O P O S A L Return on Investment I n v e s t m e n t r e q u i r e d a n d b u s i n e s s i m p a c t . Situation Analysis W h a t ’s t h e c u r r e n t s t a t e 
 o f t h i n g s ? U s e d a t a a n d i n f o r m a t i o n 
 f r o m y o u r c o m p a n y a n d s u p p o r t i n g 
 d a t a f r o m e x t e r n a l s t u d i e s . Proposed Solution H o w d o y o u ‘ c o m b a t ’ t h e p r o b l e m , 
 o r l e v e r a g e t h e o p p o r t u n i t y ? Obstacles, Challenges and Open Questions N o p l a n i s f r e e f r o m o b s t a c l e s . B e u p f r o n t a b o u t w h a t t h o s e a r e . E X A M P L E Proposal
 Template
  • 41. Employee Lifetime Value Inputs: onboarding, hiring, development, management & culture Relative value vs absolute numbersTakeaways H o d i e O r d o F I G N º 0 1 Small improvements can have a 6x return on ELTV 4 Articulate the return; don’t ask for investment 5 @MaiaJo_ maia@greenhouse.io
  • 42. G R E E N H O U S E . I O