Present Perfect for the Period to the Present - for - since - how long advanced points with 'meet' and 'know' and the difference between state and action verbs

1. Present Perfect
or
Past Simple
part 3

2. A: I‟ve lived in Rome for 20 years.

3. A: I‟ve lived in Rome for 20 years.
Where does ‘A’ live now?

4. A: I‟ve lived in Rome for 20 years.
Before coming to Rome,
I lived in London.

5. A: I‟ve lived in Rome for 20 years.
Before coming to Rome,
I lived in London.

6. Present Perfect
A: I‟ve lived in Rome for 20 years.
Before coming to Rome,
I lived in London.
Past Simple

7. open period
A: I‟ve lived in Rome for 20 years.
Before coming to Rome,
I lived in London.
closed period

8. this grammar is only about
defining the duration of periods

9. 1983
1993
10 years
now
20 years

10. I lived in London for 10 years.
between 1983 and 1993.
from 1983 to 1993.
until / till / ‟til 1993.
until I came to Rome.

11. I‟ve lived in Rome for 20 years.
since 1993.
since I left London.

12. 1983
1993
10 years
now
20 years

13. 1983
1993
I came to
London
now
I left I came to
London Rome
10 years
20 years
London
Rome

14. 1st RULE
Use the Present Perfect to define
the length of an open period.
Use the Past Simple to define the
length of a closed period.

15. ?ive:
How long have you lived in
Rome?
?ive:
How long did you live in London?

16. -ive:
I haven‟t seen Gianni since
Thursday.
but: I last saw Gianni on Thursday.

17. 1st RULE – in translation
Italian uses the Presente for open periods.
And it uses the Passato Prossimo for closed
periods.
BE CAREFUL: this can cause some confusion!

18. I‟ve lived in Rome
for 20 years.
Presente for open
periods.
I lived in London
for 10 years.
Passato Prossimo for
closed periods.

19. I‟ve lived in Rome
for 20 years.
Vivo a Roma
=
da 20 anni.
I lived in London
for 10 years.
Ho vissuto a Londra
=
per 10 anni.

20. I‟ve lived in Rome
for 20 years.
Vivo a Roma
=
da 20 anni.
I lived in London
for 10 years.
Ho vissuto a Londra
=
per 10 anni.

21. prepositions
and 1 adverb

22. now
from
to
for
since
for

23. da
a
from
da
to
for
now
since
for
per
da

24. She has lived in Rome for 30 years.

25. She has lived in Rome for 30 years.
BUT
She has always lived in Rome.
She has lived in Rome all her life.

26. She has lived in Rome for 30 years.
BUT
She has always lived in Rome.
She has lived in Rome all her life.
NOT for all her life

27. omit for before
always and all
She has always lived in Rome.
She has lived in Rome all her life.

28. translate the following sentences
Sono studente a Roma Tre.
Sono studente a Roma Tre da quattro anni.
Sono studente a Roma Tre dal 2007.
Vivo qui da quando sono venuto a Roma.
Sono sposati da diverse settimane.
Abbiamo studiato dalle 18:00 a mezzanotte.
È in ospedale da mercoledì.
Ero in Italia da gennaio a maggio.
Non fumo da quando ho deciso di smettere.
Siamo qui da 6 ore.
Dal inizio della storia usiamo acqua come una risorsa.

29. translate the following sentences
Sono studente a Roma Tre. I am …
Sono studente a Roma Tre da quattro anni. I‟ve been … for …
Sono studente a Roma Tre dal 2007. I‟ve been … since …
Vivo qui da quando sono venuto a Roma. I‟ve lived here since …
Sono sposati da diverse settimane. They‟ve been married for …
Abbiamo studiato dalle 18:00 a mezzanotte. We studied from .. to …
È in ospedale da mercoledì. He/She has been … since …
Ero in Italia da gennaio a maggio. I was … from ... to
Non fumo da quando ho deciso di smettere. I haven‟t smoked since I decided…
Siamo qui da 6 ore. We‟ve been here for …
Dal inizio della storia usiamo acqua come una risorsa. Since … we have used ..

30. put prepositions into the spaces
for since from to until between
She worked there ______ 12 years.
He has worked here ______ 12 years.
We were on holiday ______ June and September.
They were in the office ______ 10am ______ 6pm.
I‟ve been in the office ______ 10am.
The team haven‟t played together ______ the end of the season.
I studied ______ 3am.
I studied ______ my friend arrived.
I‟ve wanted one of these ______ I first saw one.
I‟ve wanted one ______ all year.
We‟ve studied this ______ hours.

31. put prepositions into the spaces
for since from to until between
She worked there for 12 years.
He has worked here for 12 years.
We were on holiday between June and September.
They were in the office from 10am to 6pm.
I‟ve been in the office since 10am.
The team haven‟t played together since the end of the season.
I studied until 3am.
I studied until my friend arrived.
I‟ve wanted one of these since I first saw one.
I‟ve wanted one - all year.
We‟ve studied this for hours.

32. advanced points
action and state verbs

33. meet
vs.
know

34. to meet sb. for the
first time
meet
vs.
know

35. action verb
meet
vs.
know

36. change between
„not knowing‟ and
„knowing‟
meet
vs.
know

37. meet
vs.
know
condition of
knowing sb.

38. meet
vs.
know
state verb

39. meet
vs.
know
no change in
„knowing‟

40. hear | learn | discover | find out
vs.
know
no change in
‘knowing’

41. action verbs
hear | learn | discover | find out
vs.
know
no change in
state verb
‘knowing’

42. action
people
conoscere
things
sapere
state
meet
know
hear | learn
discover | find out
know

43. meet, know etc.
in tenses

44. I met her at a party
I‟ve known her
for 3 years
now

45. choose the tense and verb
meet | know | hear | find out etc.
present | present perfect | past simple
I ________ his sister.
We ________ each other since we ________ at his house.
________ you ________ if he works in Paris?
When ________ you ________ ? How long ________ you ________ ?
I ________ not ________ the new boss yet.
They ________ each other at school, but now they‟ve lost contact.
“What should I do? I ________ that my husband‟s having an affair.”
“That‟s terrible! ________ you ________ for long?”
“________ you ________ the news? The President has died!”
Yes. I ________ for hours. I ________ on my way to work.
The Beatles are brilliant. I ________ always ________ that!
________ you ever ________ anyone famous?

46. choose the tense and verb
meet | know | hear | find out etc.
present | present perfect | past simple
I know his sister.
We have known each other since we met at his house.
Do you know if he works in Paris?
When did you find out? How long have you known?
I have not met the new boss yet.
They knew each other at school, but now they‟ve lost contact.
“What should I do? I have found out that my husband‟s having an affair.”
“That‟s terrible! Have you known for long?”
“Have you heard the news? The President has died!”
Yes. I have known for hours. I heard on my way to work.
The Beatles are brilliant. I have always known that!
Have you ever met anyone famous?

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