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JAMIA, 1997
“e-Patient Dave” deBronkart
Twitter: @ePatientDave
facebook.com / ePatientDave
LinkedIn.com / in / ePatientDave
dave@epatientdave.com Skype: ePatientDave
How Educated Consumers
Can Change Healthcare
“Patient” is not a
third person word
How I came to be here
•  High tech marketing
•  Data geek; tech trends; automation
•  2007: Cancer discover & recovery
•  2008: E-Patient blogger
•  2009: Participatory
Medicine, Public Speaker
•  2010: full time
•  2011: international
“e-Patient Dave” deBronkart
Twitter: @ePatientDave
facebook.com/ePatientDave
LinkedIn.com/in/ePatientDave
dave@epatientdave.com
e-Patient Boot Camp
Athens 2013
Photo of the Acropolis here
“e-Patient Dave” deBronkart
Twitter: @ePatientDave
Cows behind a veil of
secrecy
Reinhardt didn’t
realize!
facebook.com / ePatientDave
LinkedIn.com / in / ePatientDave
dave@epatientdave.com
“I want to note especially
the importance of the resource
that is most often under-
utilized in our information systems – our
patients”
Charles Safran MD, Beth Israel Deaconess
quoting his colleague,Warner Slack MD
Testimony to the HouseWays & Means
subcommittee on health, 2004
e-Patients.net founder
Tom Ferguson MD
1944-2006
Equipped
Engaged
Empowered
Enabled”
Doc Tom said,
“e-Patients are
Pt of future
Me? An indicator
of the future??
•  Who’s getting online:
–  1989: Me (CompuServe sysop)
–  2009: 83% of US adults (Pew)
•  Who’s romancing online:
–  1999: I met my wife (Match.com)
–  2009: One in eight weddings
in the U.S. met online
–  2011: One in five couples
met online
The Engaged Patient
12 items in my pre-appointment “agenda” email
The Incidental Finding
Routine shoulder x-ray, Jan. 2, 2007
“Your	
  shoulder	
  
	
  	
  will	
  be	
  fine	
  …	
  
	
  	
  but	
  there’s	
  	
  
	
  	
  something	
  	
  
	
  	
  in	
  your	
  lung”	
  
Multiple tumors in both lungs
Where’s This From??
E-Patient Activity 1:
Researching my condition
Classic
Stage IV,
Grade 4
Renal Cell
Carcinoma
Illustration on
the drug company’s
web site
Median Survival:
24 weeks
Facing the Reaper
My mother
My daughter
After the shock
you’re left with the question:
What are my options?
What can I do?
Get engaged.
Get it in gear.
Do everything you can.
E-Patient Activity 2:
“My doctor prescribed ACOR”
(Community of my patient peers)
ACOR members told me:
•  This is an uncommon disease –
get to a hospital that does a lot of cases
•  There’s no cure, but HDIL-2 sometimes works.
–  When it does, about half the time it’s permanent
–  The side effects are severe.
•  Don’t let them give you anything else first
•  Here are four doctors in your area who do it
–  And one of them was at my hospital
E-Patient Activity 3:
Reading (and sharing)
my hospital data online
Surgery & Interleukin worked.
Target Lesion 1 – Left Upper Lobe
Baseline: 39x43 mm 50 weeks: 20x12 mm
Question:
How can it be
that the most useful
and relevant and
up-to-the-minute information
can exist outside of
traditional channels?
“If I read two journal articles every night,
at the end of a year I’d be 400 years behind.”
It’s not humanly possible to keep up.
Dr. Lindberg: 400 years
The lethal lag time:
2-5 years
During this time,
people who might have benefitted can die.
Patients have all the time in the world
to look for such things.
The time it takes after successful research is completed
before publication is completed and the article’s been read.
Because of the Web,
Patients Can Connect to Information
and Each Other (and other Providers)
“Data Liberación!”
Todd Park
Innovator
Entrepreneur
HHS Chief Technical Officer
US Chief Technical Officer
“Information liquidity”
transforms
what’s possible
Not liquid Liquid
•  Moving it takes effort
•  Slow and predictable
•  Arrival on unexplained “tracks”
is suspicious
•  Frictionless – controlling
the flow takes effort
•  Fast and unpredictable
•  “Tracks” are everywhere
Compare with
- “To Err is Human” (98,000 deaths/yr Nov 1999)
Death by Googling:
Not.
(Dr. Gunther Eysenbach, Europe: 0 deaths found in a three year search)
“It may be
more dangerous
not to google
your condition.”
“These conclusions
are no more anti-doctor
or anti-medicine
than Copernicus and Galileo
..were anti-astronomer.”
Patients can simply contribute more
today than in the past.
Obstacle to adoption:
“But patients
don’t understand
this stuff.”
If the data’s unclear
let’s MAKE it clear
Like other industries do.
Thomas Goetz, Wired
Thomas Goetz, Wired
“It’s time to redesign medical data”
Same data –
better software.
Information: clearer.
Consumer:
informed, enabled.
Things look different
when you get the center right
Source: Wikipedia, Copernican Revolution
Everyone’s saying
“Patient engagement is the
blockbuster drug of the
century”
Not so fast.
Let’s look deeper.
Drugs have two components:
the Active Ingredient
that produces the result,
and the Vehicle,
which carries the active ingredient
to the point where it can act
to produce value.
Patient engagement
per se
is just the vehicle.
It enables potential value
to reach the point of need.
But what’s the active
ingredient??
What are the concrete, specific, real, tangible
ways
that patient engagement
genuinely alters value
in clinical and business reality?
People perform better
when they’re
informed better.
It’s perverse
to keep people
in the dark
and call them ignorant
Corollary:
What happens
when a consumer
tries to be responsible
about costs?
N.H. insurance shopping, 2011
Premium	
  
	
  
Deduc+ble	
  
	
  
Co-­‐pay	
  
a4er	
  	
  
deduc+ble	
  
Max	
  OOP	
  	
  
(deduc+ble	
  	
  
+	
  co-­‐pay)	
  
Stop-­‐loss	
  max	
  
(in-­‐network	
  +	
  
out)	
  
Op#on	
  A	
   $894	
  	
  
Op#on	
  B	
   $705	
  	
  
Op#on	
  C	
   $581	
  	
  
Op#on	
  D	
   $495	
  	
  
Op#on	
  H	
   $624	
  	
  
The choices they offered
Premium	
  
	
  
Deduc+ble	
  
	
  
Co-­‐pay	
  
a4er	
  	
  
deduc+ble	
  
Max	
  OOP	
  	
  
(deduc+ble	
  	
  
+	
  co-­‐pay)	
  
Stop-­‐loss	
  max	
  
(in-­‐network	
  +	
  
out)	
  
Op#on	
  A	
   $894	
  	
   $1,000	
  	
  
Op#on	
  B	
   $705	
  	
   $2,500	
  	
  
Op#on	
  C	
   $581	
  	
   $5,000	
  	
  
Op#on	
  D	
   $495	
  	
   $10,000	
  	
  
Op#on	
  H	
   $624	
  	
   $5,950	
  	
  
The choices they offered
Premium	
  
	
  
Deduc+ble	
  
	
  
Co-­‐pay	
  
a4er	
  	
  
deduc+ble	
  
Max	
  OOP	
  	
  
(deduc+ble	
  	
  
+	
  co-­‐pay)	
  
Stop-­‐loss	
  max	
  
(in-­‐network	
  +	
  
out)	
  
Op#on	
  A	
   $894	
  	
   $1,000	
  	
   20%	
  
Op#on	
  B	
   $705	
  	
   $2,500	
  	
   20%	
  
Op#on	
  C	
   $581	
  	
   $5,000	
  	
   20%	
  
Op#on	
  D	
   $495	
  	
   $10,000	
  	
   0%	
  
Op#on	
  H	
   $624	
  	
   $5,950	
  	
   0%	
  
The choices they offered
Premium	
  
	
  
Deduc+ble	
  
	
  
Co-­‐pay	
  
a4er	
  	
  
deduc+ble	
  
Max	
  OOP	
  	
  
(deduc+ble	
  	
  
+	
  co-­‐pay)	
  
Stop-­‐loss	
  max	
  
(in-­‐network	
  +	
  
out)	
  
Op#on	
  A	
   $894	
  	
   $1,000	
  	
   20%	
   $3,500	
  	
   $12,500	
  	
  
Op#on	
  B	
   $705	
  	
   $2,500	
  	
   20%	
   $5,000	
  	
   $12,500	
  	
  
Op#on	
  C	
   $581	
  	
   $5,000	
  	
   20%	
   $7,500	
  	
   $12,500	
  	
  
Op#on	
  D	
   $495	
  	
   $10,000	
  	
   0%	
   $10,000	
  	
   n/a	
  
Op#on	
  H	
   $624	
  	
   $5,950	
  	
   0%	
   $5,950	
  	
   $12,500	
  	
  
I know – run some scenarios!
=IF(maxoop<J17+J18,maxoop,J17+J18)
I know – graph it!
My favorite
complaint:
“Patients are the only
ones who don’t have
any skin in the game”
- Practice manager, quoted in
Health Leaders, Fall 2011
2011: EOB for a scan
Winter: Shingles vaccines
Speaking of
skin in the game…
Doing what empowered buyers do
dave.pt/skincancerRFP
Obstacle to adoption:
“My patients
aren’t asking
for this.”
And finally:
recognition
from the establishment
Patient-Clinician Partnerships
Engaged, empowered patients—
A learning health care system is
anchored on patient needs and perspectives
and promotes the inclusion of patients,
families, and other caregivers as vital
members of the continuously learning care
team.
Institute of Medicine – Sept 2012
Major New Report:“Best Care at Lower Cost”
October 2007
2.8 e-PatientYears in Pictures
December 2006 May 2009
Thank you,
medicine.
JAMIA, 1997
“e-Patient Dave” deBronkart
Twitter: @ePatientDave
facebook.com / ePatientDave
LinkedIn.com / in / ePatientDave
dave@epatientdave.com Skype: ePatientDave
How Educated Consumers
Can Change Healthcare

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HealthSparq Customer Summit Feb 25 2015

  • 1. JAMIA, 1997 “e-Patient Dave” deBronkart Twitter: @ePatientDave facebook.com / ePatientDave LinkedIn.com / in / ePatientDave dave@epatientdave.com Skype: ePatientDave How Educated Consumers Can Change Healthcare
  • 2. “Patient” is not a third person word
  • 3. How I came to be here •  High tech marketing •  Data geek; tech trends; automation •  2007: Cancer discover & recovery •  2008: E-Patient blogger •  2009: Participatory Medicine, Public Speaker •  2010: full time •  2011: international
  • 4.
  • 5. “e-Patient Dave” deBronkart Twitter: @ePatientDave facebook.com/ePatientDave LinkedIn.com/in/ePatientDave dave@epatientdave.com e-Patient Boot Camp Athens 2013 Photo of the Acropolis here
  • 6. “e-Patient Dave” deBronkart Twitter: @ePatientDave Cows behind a veil of secrecy Reinhardt didn’t realize! facebook.com / ePatientDave LinkedIn.com / in / ePatientDave dave@epatientdave.com
  • 7. “I want to note especially the importance of the resource that is most often under- utilized in our information systems – our patients” Charles Safran MD, Beth Israel Deaconess quoting his colleague,Warner Slack MD Testimony to the HouseWays & Means subcommittee on health, 2004
  • 8. e-Patients.net founder Tom Ferguson MD 1944-2006 Equipped Engaged Empowered Enabled” Doc Tom said, “e-Patients are
  • 9.
  • 11.
  • 12. Me? An indicator of the future?? •  Who’s getting online: –  1989: Me (CompuServe sysop) –  2009: 83% of US adults (Pew) •  Who’s romancing online: –  1999: I met my wife (Match.com) –  2009: One in eight weddings in the U.S. met online –  2011: One in five couples met online
  • 13. The Engaged Patient 12 items in my pre-appointment “agenda” email
  • 14. The Incidental Finding Routine shoulder x-ray, Jan. 2, 2007 “Your  shoulder      will  be  fine  …      but  there’s        something        in  your  lung”  
  • 15. Multiple tumors in both lungs Where’s This From??
  • 17. Classic Stage IV, Grade 4 Renal Cell Carcinoma Illustration on the drug company’s web site Median Survival: 24 weeks
  • 21. After the shock you’re left with the question: What are my options? What can I do?
  • 22. Get engaged. Get it in gear. Do everything you can.
  • 23. E-Patient Activity 2: “My doctor prescribed ACOR” (Community of my patient peers)
  • 24. ACOR members told me: •  This is an uncommon disease – get to a hospital that does a lot of cases •  There’s no cure, but HDIL-2 sometimes works. –  When it does, about half the time it’s permanent –  The side effects are severe. •  Don’t let them give you anything else first •  Here are four doctors in your area who do it –  And one of them was at my hospital
  • 25. E-Patient Activity 3: Reading (and sharing) my hospital data online
  • 26. Surgery & Interleukin worked. Target Lesion 1 – Left Upper Lobe Baseline: 39x43 mm 50 weeks: 20x12 mm
  • 27.
  • 29. How can it be that the most useful and relevant and up-to-the-minute information can exist outside of traditional channels?
  • 30. “If I read two journal articles every night, at the end of a year I’d be 400 years behind.” It’s not humanly possible to keep up. Dr. Lindberg: 400 years
  • 31. The lethal lag time: 2-5 years During this time, people who might have benefitted can die. Patients have all the time in the world to look for such things. The time it takes after successful research is completed before publication is completed and the article’s been read.
  • 32. Because of the Web, Patients Can Connect to Information and Each Other (and other Providers)
  • 33. “Data Liberación!” Todd Park Innovator Entrepreneur HHS Chief Technical Officer US Chief Technical Officer
  • 35. Not liquid Liquid •  Moving it takes effort •  Slow and predictable •  Arrival on unexplained “tracks” is suspicious •  Frictionless – controlling the flow takes effort •  Fast and unpredictable •  “Tracks” are everywhere
  • 36.
  • 37. Compare with - “To Err is Human” (98,000 deaths/yr Nov 1999) Death by Googling: Not. (Dr. Gunther Eysenbach, Europe: 0 deaths found in a three year search)
  • 38. “It may be more dangerous not to google your condition.”
  • 39. “These conclusions are no more anti-doctor or anti-medicine than Copernicus and Galileo ..were anti-astronomer.” Patients can simply contribute more today than in the past.
  • 40. Obstacle to adoption: “But patients don’t understand this stuff.”
  • 41. If the data’s unclear let’s MAKE it clear Like other industries do.
  • 43. Thomas Goetz, Wired “It’s time to redesign medical data”
  • 44. Same data – better software. Information: clearer. Consumer: informed, enabled.
  • 45.
  • 46. Things look different when you get the center right Source: Wikipedia, Copernican Revolution
  • 47.
  • 48. Everyone’s saying “Patient engagement is the blockbuster drug of the century”
  • 49.
  • 50. Not so fast. Let’s look deeper.
  • 51. Drugs have two components: the Active Ingredient that produces the result, and the Vehicle, which carries the active ingredient to the point where it can act to produce value.
  • 52. Patient engagement per se is just the vehicle. It enables potential value to reach the point of need.
  • 53. But what’s the active ingredient??
  • 54. What are the concrete, specific, real, tangible ways that patient engagement genuinely alters value in clinical and business reality?
  • 55. People perform better when they’re informed better.
  • 56. It’s perverse to keep people in the dark and call them ignorant Corollary:
  • 57. What happens when a consumer tries to be responsible about costs?
  • 58. N.H. insurance shopping, 2011 Premium     Deduc+ble     Co-­‐pay   a4er     deduc+ble   Max  OOP     (deduc+ble     +  co-­‐pay)   Stop-­‐loss  max   (in-­‐network  +   out)   Op#on  A   $894     Op#on  B   $705     Op#on  C   $581     Op#on  D   $495     Op#on  H   $624    
  • 59. The choices they offered Premium     Deduc+ble     Co-­‐pay   a4er     deduc+ble   Max  OOP     (deduc+ble     +  co-­‐pay)   Stop-­‐loss  max   (in-­‐network  +   out)   Op#on  A   $894     $1,000     Op#on  B   $705     $2,500     Op#on  C   $581     $5,000     Op#on  D   $495     $10,000     Op#on  H   $624     $5,950    
  • 60. The choices they offered Premium     Deduc+ble     Co-­‐pay   a4er     deduc+ble   Max  OOP     (deduc+ble     +  co-­‐pay)   Stop-­‐loss  max   (in-­‐network  +   out)   Op#on  A   $894     $1,000     20%   Op#on  B   $705     $2,500     20%   Op#on  C   $581     $5,000     20%   Op#on  D   $495     $10,000     0%   Op#on  H   $624     $5,950     0%  
  • 61. The choices they offered Premium     Deduc+ble     Co-­‐pay   a4er     deduc+ble   Max  OOP     (deduc+ble     +  co-­‐pay)   Stop-­‐loss  max   (in-­‐network  +   out)   Op#on  A   $894     $1,000     20%   $3,500     $12,500     Op#on  B   $705     $2,500     20%   $5,000     $12,500     Op#on  C   $581     $5,000     20%   $7,500     $12,500     Op#on  D   $495     $10,000     0%   $10,000     n/a   Op#on  H   $624     $5,950     0%   $5,950     $12,500    
  • 62. I know – run some scenarios!
  • 64. I know – graph it!
  • 66. “Patients are the only ones who don’t have any skin in the game” - Practice manager, quoted in Health Leaders, Fall 2011
  • 67. 2011: EOB for a scan
  • 69. Speaking of skin in the game…
  • 70.
  • 71. Doing what empowered buyers do dave.pt/skincancerRFP
  • 72.
  • 73. Obstacle to adoption: “My patients aren’t asking for this.”
  • 74.
  • 75.
  • 77. Patient-Clinician Partnerships Engaged, empowered patients— A learning health care system is anchored on patient needs and perspectives and promotes the inclusion of patients, families, and other caregivers as vital members of the continuously learning care team. Institute of Medicine – Sept 2012 Major New Report:“Best Care at Lower Cost”
  • 78. October 2007 2.8 e-PatientYears in Pictures December 2006 May 2009
  • 79.
  • 80.
  • 82. JAMIA, 1997 “e-Patient Dave” deBronkart Twitter: @ePatientDave facebook.com / ePatientDave LinkedIn.com / in / ePatientDave dave@epatientdave.com Skype: ePatientDave How Educated Consumers Can Change Healthcare