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State of CJK
issues of
LibreOffice,
2018 edition
Shinji Enoki
shinji.enoki@gmail.com
TIRANA | 27 Sept. 2018
Agenda
●
About the CJK features &
issues
●
CJK issue status
●
Next challenge for the CJK
issues
Who am I?
● Shinji Enoki ( 榎真治 )
● A member of LibreOffice Japanese Team(2011-)
● A member of The Document Foundation (2014-)
● Activity: organizing events, grows community, sometimes
QA
● Other community:
– Chairperson of Japan UNIX Society
– A member of Kyoto OpenData Community
– A staff of KANSAI OPEN SOURCE
Do you know the word CJK
bug?
What are CJK issues / bugs
● CJK is an abbreviation for Chinese-Japanese-
Korean
● LibreOffice has many language-specific features
and issues, CJK issue is one of them.
● CJK issues happen when used in CJK's
environment
– A function of CJK is broken
– A bug occurs only with the CJK environment
The Document Foundation:
Next Decade Manifesto
‘’To support the preservation of mother tongue by
encouraging people to translate,document,
support, and promote our office productivity tools
in their mother tongue’’
● I think these “Our Values” are very good
Why do CJK people need to work
CJK bugs?
●
Many LibreOffice developers are European
people
● It is hard to notice / understand CJK bug unless
it is from people of CJK
● Then, It is very important for CJK users to
report / reproduce CJK bugs
CJK Meta issues
● CJK bugs are tracked META issues
– Bug 83066(CJK) - [META] issues
Check [META] CJK issues
● Open: Including 6 meta bugs “Text Grid “, “ruby”,
“CJK-Japanese” and othe (not meta: 67)
● Some cases are not added to CJK META issues
due to CJK related buga
2017/10 2018/9
Depends on:(All) 135 168
Open 59 73
Close 76 95
● Mark Hung is fixing some CJK issues
● Thanks Mark!
CJK features
● In common with CJK
1.using Kanji (Chinese characters)
2.vertical writing
3.phonetic guides (ruby)
● Chinese characters are also different in Simplified Chinese
(Mainland China), Traditional Chinese (Taiwan, Hong
Kong) and Kanji (Japanese)
● Even with common functions, usage methods are not
always the same
– Vertical writing
Vertical writing
● Exsample: Witer page stype
– Menu [Format] – [Page...]
– [Page] tab
Vertical writing(2)
Features specific to Japanese
● Line breaking rules : ” ”禁則処理 Kinsokushori
● [Paragraph style]-[Japanese appearance] tab
line adjustment by hanging
punctuation
https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/ja/
LibreOffice Brno 2016 Conference Presentation 18
Kanji variant is a Kanji character
with the same meaning but by
different shape.
崎 﨑 埼
碕 嵜
External Character ( 異体字 )
& Kanji variants
LibreOffice Brno 2016 Conference Presentation 19
IVS
Ideographic Variation
Sequence/Selector
In Japan, using a mechanism called
IVS to make it easier to deal with a
Kanji variant.
IVS is combine the characters,
as one of the character.
Variation
Sequence
Unicode character
http://mojikiban.ipa.go.jp/1292.html
IVS using case bug#113481
● Deleting the character behind two same IVS
characters with Backspace will result in another
character
● Demo
IVS using case bug#113481
(2)
● I explained this bug at LibreOffice conference
2017
● Mark Hung created a patch
● 6.1 : FIXED
Bug#35301: Allow vertical ruby
text in the Asian phonetic guide
Bug#35301 (2)
● LibreOffice 6.1 can become on the right side
with ruby in horizontal writing
● Mark Hung created a patch
Bug 115258 - FILESAVE: text with Asian
phonetic guide (ruby) disappear after save to
docx and reopened
● Text with Asian phonetic guide (ruby)
disappears after saving as “docx” and then
reopening
● Mark Hung created a patch
● 6.1 : FIXED
Multilingual issues that matter even
at CJK
● Multilingual problem that becomes a problem with
CJK
● In some time zone Date is shifted: (Already fixed)
● Bug 59850 - EDITING: typed date decreased one
day
● Bug 63230 - Calc: Date decreased by 1
depending on Timezone
Bug 118849 - Impress hang when
input multibyte character.
● On Japanese Input mode. Select multiple lines,
Input multibyte character, hang.
● Only Linux
● 6.0.5 reproduced, 6.1 not reproduc
● demo
Meta issue for each CJK
language
● [META] Japanese language-specific CJK issues
● https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113195
● [META] Traditional Chinese (zh_TW, zh_HK)
– https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113193
● [META] Simplified Chinese (zh_CN)
– https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113194
● But, it is not used now
Checking is difficult
● It is difficult to understand the meaning
● Test case, sample file is not enough
● I do not understand when I read the comment
to the end
Next task as I think
● 1st: Re-make or arrange the summary and test
cases in Bugzilla
– Against high risk and high probability of regression
● 2nd: CJK Meta issue and list maintenance
● 3rd: Finding critical bugs that users don't
immediately notice
Telegram: LibreOffice CJK
● If you want contribute to report / resolving CJK
bug, please join this channel
● https://web.telegram.org/#/im?
p=s1119055114_15674911573967734518
Conclusion
● Sharing the Unique functions and issues about
CJK with a lot of members
● I’d like to work to solve issues with our
Japanese members
● wanting to progress organization of Bugzilla
such as CJK issue
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State of CJK issues of LibreOffice, 2018 edition

  • 1. State of CJK issues of LibreOffice, 2018 edition Shinji Enoki shinji.enoki@gmail.com TIRANA | 27 Sept. 2018
  • 2. Agenda ● About the CJK features & issues ● CJK issue status ● Next challenge for the CJK issues
  • 3. Who am I? ● Shinji Enoki ( 榎真治 ) ● A member of LibreOffice Japanese Team(2011-) ● A member of The Document Foundation (2014-) ● Activity: organizing events, grows community, sometimes QA ● Other community: – Chairperson of Japan UNIX Society – A member of Kyoto OpenData Community – A staff of KANSAI OPEN SOURCE
  • 4. Do you know the word CJK bug?
  • 5. What are CJK issues / bugs ● CJK is an abbreviation for Chinese-Japanese- Korean ● LibreOffice has many language-specific features and issues, CJK issue is one of them. ● CJK issues happen when used in CJK's environment – A function of CJK is broken – A bug occurs only with the CJK environment
  • 6.
  • 7. The Document Foundation: Next Decade Manifesto ‘’To support the preservation of mother tongue by encouraging people to translate,document, support, and promote our office productivity tools in their mother tongue’’ ● I think these “Our Values” are very good
  • 8. Why do CJK people need to work CJK bugs? ● Many LibreOffice developers are European people ● It is hard to notice / understand CJK bug unless it is from people of CJK ● Then, It is very important for CJK users to report / reproduce CJK bugs
  • 9. CJK Meta issues ● CJK bugs are tracked META issues – Bug 83066(CJK) - [META] issues
  • 10.
  • 11. Check [META] CJK issues ● Open: Including 6 meta bugs “Text Grid “, “ruby”, “CJK-Japanese” and othe (not meta: 67) ● Some cases are not added to CJK META issues due to CJK related buga 2017/10 2018/9 Depends on:(All) 135 168 Open 59 73 Close 76 95
  • 12. ● Mark Hung is fixing some CJK issues ● Thanks Mark!
  • 13. CJK features ● In common with CJK 1.using Kanji (Chinese characters) 2.vertical writing 3.phonetic guides (ruby) ● Chinese characters are also different in Simplified Chinese (Mainland China), Traditional Chinese (Taiwan, Hong Kong) and Kanji (Japanese) ● Even with common functions, usage methods are not always the same – Vertical writing
  • 14. Vertical writing ● Exsample: Witer page stype – Menu [Format] – [Page...] – [Page] tab
  • 16. Features specific to Japanese ● Line breaking rules : ” ”禁則処理 Kinsokushori ● [Paragraph style]-[Japanese appearance] tab
  • 17. line adjustment by hanging punctuation https://www.w3.org/TR/jlreq/ja/
  • 18. LibreOffice Brno 2016 Conference Presentation 18 Kanji variant is a Kanji character with the same meaning but by different shape. 崎 﨑 埼 碕 嵜 External Character ( 異体字 ) & Kanji variants
  • 19. LibreOffice Brno 2016 Conference Presentation 19 IVS Ideographic Variation Sequence/Selector In Japan, using a mechanism called IVS to make it easier to deal with a Kanji variant. IVS is combine the characters, as one of the character. Variation Sequence Unicode character
  • 21. IVS using case bug#113481 ● Deleting the character behind two same IVS characters with Backspace will result in another character ● Demo
  • 22. IVS using case bug#113481 (2) ● I explained this bug at LibreOffice conference 2017 ● Mark Hung created a patch ● 6.1 : FIXED
  • 23. Bug#35301: Allow vertical ruby text in the Asian phonetic guide
  • 24. Bug#35301 (2) ● LibreOffice 6.1 can become on the right side with ruby in horizontal writing ● Mark Hung created a patch
  • 25. Bug 115258 - FILESAVE: text with Asian phonetic guide (ruby) disappear after save to docx and reopened ● Text with Asian phonetic guide (ruby) disappears after saving as “docx” and then reopening ● Mark Hung created a patch ● 6.1 : FIXED
  • 26. Multilingual issues that matter even at CJK ● Multilingual problem that becomes a problem with CJK ● In some time zone Date is shifted: (Already fixed) ● Bug 59850 - EDITING: typed date decreased one day ● Bug 63230 - Calc: Date decreased by 1 depending on Timezone
  • 27. Bug 118849 - Impress hang when input multibyte character. ● On Japanese Input mode. Select multiple lines, Input multibyte character, hang. ● Only Linux ● 6.0.5 reproduced, 6.1 not reproduc ● demo
  • 28. Meta issue for each CJK language ● [META] Japanese language-specific CJK issues ● https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113195 ● [META] Traditional Chinese (zh_TW, zh_HK) – https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113193 ● [META] Simplified Chinese (zh_CN) – https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113194 ● But, it is not used now
  • 29. Checking is difficult ● It is difficult to understand the meaning ● Test case, sample file is not enough ● I do not understand when I read the comment to the end
  • 30. Next task as I think ● 1st: Re-make or arrange the summary and test cases in Bugzilla – Against high risk and high probability of regression ● 2nd: CJK Meta issue and list maintenance ● 3rd: Finding critical bugs that users don't immediately notice
  • 31. Telegram: LibreOffice CJK ● If you want contribute to report / resolving CJK bug, please join this channel ● https://web.telegram.org/#/im? p=s1119055114_15674911573967734518
  • 32. Conclusion ● Sharing the Unique functions and issues about CJK with a lot of members ● I’d like to work to solve issues with our Japanese members ● wanting to progress organization of Bugzilla such as CJK issue
  • 33. All text and image content in this document is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 License (unless otherwise specified). “LibreOffice” and “The Document Foundation” are registered trademarks. Their respective logos and icons are subject to international copyright laws. The use of these thereof is subject to trademark policy. Thank you !