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WILDLAND FIRE HYDRAULICS CALCULATIONS - "BONEHEAD" vs. ACCURATE!
Is there truly a "CHOICE" which method to more EASILY vs. ACCURATELY calculate Fire Ground
Hydraulics when mathematics "NEVER" LIE!?! Well somebody is! Is it YOU !?! Hmmmm!?!
How do you explain 41.99% UNDER "CALCULATED" Engine Pressure at 1,100 feet at
53 GPM from an 1.5" "Attack" nozzle with 13 GPM "Laterals" every 200 feet and HEAD of 0
I was THREATENED to "DO NOT CONFUSE THE CLASS!!!" in May 1986 at the CAL FIRE Fire Academy
or face certain TERMINATION! Yet I graduated "TOP STUDENT" at Rank ONE (1) of 23 at 96.8%!?!
Are you even aware of this truly INSIGNIFICANT formula that is instructed INTERNATIONALLY!?!
FL = C * (Q / 100)^2 * (L / 100) Engine Pressure = Nozzle Pressure + Friction Loss + Appliance(s) + HEAD
Coefficient (C) for 1.5" hose is 24 Go to: http://frictionlosscalculator.com/
Coefficient (C) for 1" hose is 150 Also be "enlightened" at: http://www.hoseroller.info
GPM (Q) Please NOTE: You're wannabe "academy" demands accuracy within 10 PSI right!?! How can you justify FAILING past
Length (L) students now UNEMPLOYED when it's evidenced you INSTRUCT results that are GROSSLY INCORRECT by far MORE!?!
Please feel FREE to fill-in ONLY the - LIGHT BLUE - highlighted cells to satisfy your feeble curiousity!
But don't forget the maximum ENGINE PRESSURE CANNOT EXCEED 400 PSI! REMEMBER!?!
Or do you recall the "TEST PRESSURE" of fire hose is just as fire apparatus are "CONFUSINGLY" governed!?!
You're BUSTED! You've been INSTRUCTING YOUR "PERSONAL AGENDA" stuff for DECADES!!! Should I QUIT!?!
Have I crossed a "SACRED" POLITICAL LINE!?! Will I face CRIMINAL HARASSMENT CHARGES!?!
- But by all means, PLEASE try to have FUN!!! -
Hoffmann Fire & Rescue Technologies - West Des Moines, Iowa 50265 - (877) HOSEROLLER [(877) 467-3765] - rich@hftfire.com
www.hftfire.com - © 2014-2015 [Don't even fn' think about it *ss wipe! LOL!]
"CORRECT" METHOD - INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED "FIRE STANDARD"
HEAD: Enter feet elevation
0 1.5" 1.5" Prog. ACCURATE 1" Number of 1.0" Lateral ACTUAL
0 Hoseline Friction Loss 1.5" Hoselay 1.5" Sub-total Lateral 1.0" Laterals Friction Loss 1.0" Sub-total REQUIRED
NP - (T/C) GPM per 100' Length "Friction Loss" GPM at 100' each per 100' Friction Loss APPLIANCE EP
50 53 6.7 100 6.7 0 0 0.0 0 56.7
50 53 6.7 200 13.5 0 0 0.0 5 68.5
50 66 10.5 300 23.9 13 1 2.5 2.5 5 81.5
50 66 10.5 400 34.4 13 1 2.5 2.5 10 96.9
50 79 15.0 500 49.4 13 2 2.5 5.1 10 114.4
50 79 15.0 600 64.3 13 2 2.5 5.1 15 134.4
50 92 20.3 700 84.7 13 3 2.5 7.6 15 157.3
50 92 20.3 800 105.0 13 3 2.5 7.6 20 182.6
50 105 26.5 900 131.4 13 4 2.5 10.1 20 211.6
50 105 26.5 1000 157.9 13 4 2.5 10.1 25 243.0
50 118 33.4 1100 191.3 13 5 2.5 12.7 25 279.0
50 118 33.4 1200 224.7 13 5 2.5 12.7 30 317.4
50 131 41.2 1300 265.9 13 6 2.5 15.2 30 361.1
50 131 41.2 STOP! 307.1 13 6 2.5 15.2 35 407.3
50 144 49.8 STOP! 356.9 13 7 2.5 17.7 35 459.6
50 144 49.8 STOP! 406.6 13 7 2.5 17.7 40 514.4
THESE ARE THE ACCURATE CALCULATIONS PER INTERNATIONAL "LAW" YET…
CAL FIRE's "UNDISPUTED OR BE FIRED" calculation at 1100 ft. is 238.2 PSI of
"EXTRA" PRESSURE TO EXTEND YOUR HOSE LAY UP TO 603 feet MORE!
This is AFTER the ACTUAL DEMANDS "STOP!!!" Hell! Go for it! If those "Pee-On" firefighters complain, just
shove it right back up their *SS 'cuz YOU KNOW the "CAL FIRE GOD'S" trained you RIGHT!
Hoffmann Fire & Rescue Technologies - West Des Moines, Iowa 50265 - (877) HOSEROLLER [(877) 467-3765] - www.hftfire.com - © 2014-2015
"POLITICALLY CORRECT" CAL FIRE ACADEMY METHOD IN WHICH THE "TRUNK LINE" NEVER ADJUSTS
FOR "INCREASED" GPM FOR EACH ONE (1") INCH LATERAL ADDED WHICH EXPONENTIALLY INCREASES "FL!"
HEAD: Enter feet elevation "Politically"
0 1.5" 1.5" FLAT Correct Number of 1.0" Lateral Politically
0 Hoseline Friction Loss 1.5" Hoselay 1.5" Sub-total 1.0" Laterals Friction Loss 1.0" Sub-total CORRECT
TIP NP GPM per 100' Length "Friction Loss" 1.0" GPM at 100' each per 100' Friction Loss APPLIANCE WRONG EP
50 53 6.7 100 6.7 0 0 0.0 0 56.7
50 53 6.7 200 13.5 0 0 0.0 5 68.5
50 53 6.7 300 20.2 13 1 2.5 2.5 5 77.8
50 53 6.7 400 27.0 13 1 2.5 2.5 10 89.5
50 53 6.7 500 33.7 13 2 2.5 5.1 10 98.8
50 53 6.7 600 40.4 13 2 2.5 5.1 15 110.5
50 53 6.7 700 47.2 13 3 2.5 7.6 15 119.8
50 53 6.7 800 53.9 13 3 2.5 7.6 20 131.5
50 53 6.7 900 60.7 13 4 2.5 10.1 20 140.8
50 53 6.7 1000 67.4 13 4 2.5 10.1 25 152.6
50 53 6.7 1100 74.2 13 5 2.5 12.7 25 161.8
50 53 6.7 1200 80.9 13 5 2.5 12.7 30 173.6
50 53 6.7 1300 87.6 13 6 2.5 15.2 30 182.9
50 53 6.7 1400 94.4 13 6 2.5 15.2 35 194.6
50 53 6.7 1500 101.1 13 7 2.5 17.7 35 203.9
50 53 6.7 1600 107.9 13 7 2.5 17.7 40 215.6
This should look really familiar to your "NORMAL" or "STATUS QUO" that has kept YOU and literally every
SEVERELY DECEIVED STUDENT feeling "SAFE AND SECURE" as "Ya' all got 'em through the MATH somehow!"
…but have you considered REALITY!?! Ask the USFS, BLM, NPS, OSF, NSF, & ASF what they do!
But what do you care 'cuz the only numbers important to you are "THE RESULTS" of an "EASIER" math equation!
Hoffmann Fire & Rescue Technologies - West Des Moines, Iowa 50265 - (877) HOSEROLLER [(877) 467-3765] - rich@hftfire.com
www.hftfire.com - © 2014-2015 [Don't even fn' think about it *ss wipe! LOL!]
Number ACTUAL ACTUAL ACTUAL Hose CAN "Politically NET NET ASS-U-ME d Hose TO
1.5" Hose of 1" REQUIRED REMAINING to ADD w/o WE Correct" Incorrect RESULT REMAINING ADD Beyond
Length Laterals EP PSI TO 400 NEW Laterals PUMP? EP EP ERROR! PSI TO 400 ACTUAL
100 56.7 343.3 5092 YES 56.7 0.0 0.00% 343.3 0
200 68.5 331.5 4917 YES 68.5 0.0 0.00% 331.5 0
300 1 81.5 318.5 3047 YES 77.8 3.7 4.56% 322.2 40
400 1 96.9 303.1 2899 YES 89.5 7.4 7.66% 310.5 80
500 2 114.4 285.6 1906 YES 98.8 15.7 13.69% 301.2 133
600 2 134.4 265.6 1773 YES 110.5 23.9 17.78% 289.5 202
700 3 157.3 242.7 1195 YES 119.8 37.5 23.83% 280.2 261
800 3 182.6 217.4 1070 YES 131.5 51.0 27.96% 268.5 356
900 4 211.6 188.4 712 YES 140.8 70.8 33.45% 259.2 419
1000 4 243.0 157.0 593 YES 152.6 90.5 37.23% 247.4 536
1100 5 279.0 121.0 362 YES 161.8 117.2 41.99% 238.2 603
1200 5 317.4 82.6 247 YES 173.6 143.8 45.31% 226.4 741
1300 6 361.1 38.9 94 YES 182.9 178.3 49.37% 217.1 812
1400 6 407.3 0.0 0 STOP! 194.6 212.7 52.23% 205.4 936
1500 7 459.6 0.0 0 STOP! 203.9 255.7 55.64% 196.1 801
1600 7 514.4 0.0 0 STOP! 215.6 298.8 58.08% 184.4 753
And you question why Firefighters SCREAM, "MORE PRESSURE!!! MORE PRESSURE!!! MORE PRESSURE!!!"???
How many have been INJURED!?! …AND RISK DEATH UPON "PURPOSEFUL" DISREGARD TO PHYSICS!?!
…or are "YOU" who "Firefighter SAFETY" is a very distant "NON-PRIORITY" to securing the GRADUATING NUMBERS!?!
Hoffmann Fire & Rescue Technologies - West Des Moines, Iowa 50265 - (877) HOSEROLLER [(877) 467-3765] - rich@hftfire.com
CAL FIRE INTEGRITY!?! ZERO!!! www.hftfire.com - © 2014-2015 CAL FIRE Firefighter SAFETY!?! INSIGNIFICANT!!!

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CAL FIRE Academy INSTRUCTS FALSIFIED Fire Hydraulics Calculations, etc.

  • 1. WILDLAND FIRE HYDRAULICS CALCULATIONS - "BONEHEAD" vs. ACCURATE! Is there truly a "CHOICE" which method to more EASILY vs. ACCURATELY calculate Fire Ground Hydraulics when mathematics "NEVER" LIE!?! Well somebody is! Is it YOU !?! Hmmmm!?! How do you explain 41.99% UNDER "CALCULATED" Engine Pressure at 1,100 feet at 53 GPM from an 1.5" "Attack" nozzle with 13 GPM "Laterals" every 200 feet and HEAD of 0 I was THREATENED to "DO NOT CONFUSE THE CLASS!!!" in May 1986 at the CAL FIRE Fire Academy or face certain TERMINATION! Yet I graduated "TOP STUDENT" at Rank ONE (1) of 23 at 96.8%!?! Are you even aware of this truly INSIGNIFICANT formula that is instructed INTERNATIONALLY!?! FL = C * (Q / 100)^2 * (L / 100) Engine Pressure = Nozzle Pressure + Friction Loss + Appliance(s) + HEAD Coefficient (C) for 1.5" hose is 24 Go to: http://frictionlosscalculator.com/ Coefficient (C) for 1" hose is 150 Also be "enlightened" at: http://www.hoseroller.info GPM (Q) Please NOTE: You're wannabe "academy" demands accuracy within 10 PSI right!?! How can you justify FAILING past Length (L) students now UNEMPLOYED when it's evidenced you INSTRUCT results that are GROSSLY INCORRECT by far MORE!?! Please feel FREE to fill-in ONLY the - LIGHT BLUE - highlighted cells to satisfy your feeble curiousity! But don't forget the maximum ENGINE PRESSURE CANNOT EXCEED 400 PSI! REMEMBER!?! Or do you recall the "TEST PRESSURE" of fire hose is just as fire apparatus are "CONFUSINGLY" governed!?! You're BUSTED! You've been INSTRUCTING YOUR "PERSONAL AGENDA" stuff for DECADES!!! Should I QUIT!?! Have I crossed a "SACRED" POLITICAL LINE!?! Will I face CRIMINAL HARASSMENT CHARGES!?! - But by all means, PLEASE try to have FUN!!! - Hoffmann Fire & Rescue Technologies - West Des Moines, Iowa 50265 - (877) HOSEROLLER [(877) 467-3765] - rich@hftfire.com www.hftfire.com - © 2014-2015 [Don't even fn' think about it *ss wipe! LOL!]
  • 2. "CORRECT" METHOD - INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED "FIRE STANDARD" HEAD: Enter feet elevation 0 1.5" 1.5" Prog. ACCURATE 1" Number of 1.0" Lateral ACTUAL 0 Hoseline Friction Loss 1.5" Hoselay 1.5" Sub-total Lateral 1.0" Laterals Friction Loss 1.0" Sub-total REQUIRED NP - (T/C) GPM per 100' Length "Friction Loss" GPM at 100' each per 100' Friction Loss APPLIANCE EP 50 53 6.7 100 6.7 0 0 0.0 0 56.7 50 53 6.7 200 13.5 0 0 0.0 5 68.5 50 66 10.5 300 23.9 13 1 2.5 2.5 5 81.5 50 66 10.5 400 34.4 13 1 2.5 2.5 10 96.9 50 79 15.0 500 49.4 13 2 2.5 5.1 10 114.4 50 79 15.0 600 64.3 13 2 2.5 5.1 15 134.4 50 92 20.3 700 84.7 13 3 2.5 7.6 15 157.3 50 92 20.3 800 105.0 13 3 2.5 7.6 20 182.6 50 105 26.5 900 131.4 13 4 2.5 10.1 20 211.6 50 105 26.5 1000 157.9 13 4 2.5 10.1 25 243.0 50 118 33.4 1100 191.3 13 5 2.5 12.7 25 279.0 50 118 33.4 1200 224.7 13 5 2.5 12.7 30 317.4 50 131 41.2 1300 265.9 13 6 2.5 15.2 30 361.1 50 131 41.2 STOP! 307.1 13 6 2.5 15.2 35 407.3 50 144 49.8 STOP! 356.9 13 7 2.5 17.7 35 459.6 50 144 49.8 STOP! 406.6 13 7 2.5 17.7 40 514.4 THESE ARE THE ACCURATE CALCULATIONS PER INTERNATIONAL "LAW" YET… CAL FIRE's "UNDISPUTED OR BE FIRED" calculation at 1100 ft. is 238.2 PSI of "EXTRA" PRESSURE TO EXTEND YOUR HOSE LAY UP TO 603 feet MORE! This is AFTER the ACTUAL DEMANDS "STOP!!!" Hell! Go for it! If those "Pee-On" firefighters complain, just shove it right back up their *SS 'cuz YOU KNOW the "CAL FIRE GOD'S" trained you RIGHT! Hoffmann Fire & Rescue Technologies - West Des Moines, Iowa 50265 - (877) HOSEROLLER [(877) 467-3765] - www.hftfire.com - © 2014-2015
  • 3. "POLITICALLY CORRECT" CAL FIRE ACADEMY METHOD IN WHICH THE "TRUNK LINE" NEVER ADJUSTS FOR "INCREASED" GPM FOR EACH ONE (1") INCH LATERAL ADDED WHICH EXPONENTIALLY INCREASES "FL!" HEAD: Enter feet elevation "Politically" 0 1.5" 1.5" FLAT Correct Number of 1.0" Lateral Politically 0 Hoseline Friction Loss 1.5" Hoselay 1.5" Sub-total 1.0" Laterals Friction Loss 1.0" Sub-total CORRECT TIP NP GPM per 100' Length "Friction Loss" 1.0" GPM at 100' each per 100' Friction Loss APPLIANCE WRONG EP 50 53 6.7 100 6.7 0 0 0.0 0 56.7 50 53 6.7 200 13.5 0 0 0.0 5 68.5 50 53 6.7 300 20.2 13 1 2.5 2.5 5 77.8 50 53 6.7 400 27.0 13 1 2.5 2.5 10 89.5 50 53 6.7 500 33.7 13 2 2.5 5.1 10 98.8 50 53 6.7 600 40.4 13 2 2.5 5.1 15 110.5 50 53 6.7 700 47.2 13 3 2.5 7.6 15 119.8 50 53 6.7 800 53.9 13 3 2.5 7.6 20 131.5 50 53 6.7 900 60.7 13 4 2.5 10.1 20 140.8 50 53 6.7 1000 67.4 13 4 2.5 10.1 25 152.6 50 53 6.7 1100 74.2 13 5 2.5 12.7 25 161.8 50 53 6.7 1200 80.9 13 5 2.5 12.7 30 173.6 50 53 6.7 1300 87.6 13 6 2.5 15.2 30 182.9 50 53 6.7 1400 94.4 13 6 2.5 15.2 35 194.6 50 53 6.7 1500 101.1 13 7 2.5 17.7 35 203.9 50 53 6.7 1600 107.9 13 7 2.5 17.7 40 215.6 This should look really familiar to your "NORMAL" or "STATUS QUO" that has kept YOU and literally every SEVERELY DECEIVED STUDENT feeling "SAFE AND SECURE" as "Ya' all got 'em through the MATH somehow!" …but have you considered REALITY!?! Ask the USFS, BLM, NPS, OSF, NSF, & ASF what they do! But what do you care 'cuz the only numbers important to you are "THE RESULTS" of an "EASIER" math equation! Hoffmann Fire & Rescue Technologies - West Des Moines, Iowa 50265 - (877) HOSEROLLER [(877) 467-3765] - rich@hftfire.com www.hftfire.com - © 2014-2015 [Don't even fn' think about it *ss wipe! LOL!]
  • 4. Number ACTUAL ACTUAL ACTUAL Hose CAN "Politically NET NET ASS-U-ME d Hose TO 1.5" Hose of 1" REQUIRED REMAINING to ADD w/o WE Correct" Incorrect RESULT REMAINING ADD Beyond Length Laterals EP PSI TO 400 NEW Laterals PUMP? EP EP ERROR! PSI TO 400 ACTUAL 100 56.7 343.3 5092 YES 56.7 0.0 0.00% 343.3 0 200 68.5 331.5 4917 YES 68.5 0.0 0.00% 331.5 0 300 1 81.5 318.5 3047 YES 77.8 3.7 4.56% 322.2 40 400 1 96.9 303.1 2899 YES 89.5 7.4 7.66% 310.5 80 500 2 114.4 285.6 1906 YES 98.8 15.7 13.69% 301.2 133 600 2 134.4 265.6 1773 YES 110.5 23.9 17.78% 289.5 202 700 3 157.3 242.7 1195 YES 119.8 37.5 23.83% 280.2 261 800 3 182.6 217.4 1070 YES 131.5 51.0 27.96% 268.5 356 900 4 211.6 188.4 712 YES 140.8 70.8 33.45% 259.2 419 1000 4 243.0 157.0 593 YES 152.6 90.5 37.23% 247.4 536 1100 5 279.0 121.0 362 YES 161.8 117.2 41.99% 238.2 603 1200 5 317.4 82.6 247 YES 173.6 143.8 45.31% 226.4 741 1300 6 361.1 38.9 94 YES 182.9 178.3 49.37% 217.1 812 1400 6 407.3 0.0 0 STOP! 194.6 212.7 52.23% 205.4 936 1500 7 459.6 0.0 0 STOP! 203.9 255.7 55.64% 196.1 801 1600 7 514.4 0.0 0 STOP! 215.6 298.8 58.08% 184.4 753 And you question why Firefighters SCREAM, "MORE PRESSURE!!! MORE PRESSURE!!! MORE PRESSURE!!!"??? How many have been INJURED!?! …AND RISK DEATH UPON "PURPOSEFUL" DISREGARD TO PHYSICS!?! …or are "YOU" who "Firefighter SAFETY" is a very distant "NON-PRIORITY" to securing the GRADUATING NUMBERS!?! Hoffmann Fire & Rescue Technologies - West Des Moines, Iowa 50265 - (877) HOSEROLLER [(877) 467-3765] - rich@hftfire.com CAL FIRE INTEGRITY!?! ZERO!!! www.hftfire.com - © 2014-2015 CAL FIRE Firefighter SAFETY!?! INSIGNIFICANT!!!