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Manufacturing Day                                                 Page 1

May 10th, 2011
                        TechniQuote



                            Automated cost calculation
                                 of complex parts

                                             L. Berteloot
                                    Software Department manager
                                           Cetim - France




   Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
Manufacturing Day                                               Page 2

May 10th, 2011




                                                                         0706-05-GB
   Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
Manufacturing Day            The French Technological Institute   Page 3

May 10th, 2011               for mechanics


   Governed by Articles
   L342.1 to L342.13
   of the Code of Research


  Steered by mechanical industrialists
  under the State’s supervision

  Founded in 1965

  700 people
  with 56% engineers




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Manufacturing Day       Making Technological choices                            Page 4

May 10th, 2011          for the future




                                                                Mechatronics
                Design Simulation                 4              Inspection
                      Tests                                     Measurement
                                            Technological
                                                axes




             Materials - Processes                                Sustainable
                                                                  development

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Manufacturing Day                                                                                          Page 5

May 10th, 2011            Transfering of Technology to mechanical
                          Small and Medium Companies
    Permanent information




              30,000 visitors         15 technical days          2 international     800 participants to
               every month                             
                                   60 mechanical mondays          congresses       flash Midest lectures




            More than 30 000               30 new performance reports
           technical calls/year                 10 new issues/year

                                     Catalogues: Training, Publishing, Software



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May 10th, 2011




                      Automated cost calculation
                          for complex parts




   Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
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                        Introduction




    TIME, COST and PRICE
          • 3 different terms for a single concept COSTING




    Remark : Time will be also used for Delay




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                       Costing of complex parts

     A part is complex by:
          Geometry
          Precision
          Quantity of details
          Manufacturing process
          Assembly (number of parts and their types)
          Standards


    Costing can become complex with informal aspects :
          Importance for company (stakes and risks)
          Delay to cost


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                       What is in Technical Cost ?

    Technical Cost = Supply Cost + Manufacturing Cost
          • Cost = f(Quantity, Machine and Tools, Process, Labour Rate)

    Supply Cost
           preparation (bar, forged, casted)
           Losses (cutting mark, clamping, off cut)
    Manufacturing Cost :
             O&M department
             Prep. (machine / tools), Mounting
             Machining + Tool Cost
             Subcontracting (painting, treatment, …)
             Controlling, Assembling, Logistics



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                       What is NOT in Technical Cost ?

    Margins problem are complex and multiple :

    •    Real margins : price = cost (1+ margin)
           Manufacturing, Supplying, Subcontracting,


    • Hided costs
           Commercial or organization costs,
           Machine occupation rate, return on invest
           Non estimated activities (logistics, transportation, controlling, …)


    • Risk coverage percentage



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Manufacturing Day                                                                      Page 11

May 10th, 2011
                        Costing : a global concept for company

    •   Engineering : COST
           Design to cost
           Value engineering

    •   Manufacturing : TIME* and COST
             Process optimization
             Anticipation of working load
             Data Flow optimization
             Best practices

    •   Sales/Procurement : COST and PRICE
           Shorten delay for quotation
           Increase precision and reliability of tenders
           Argue a quotation

    •   Management : COST
           Decision making aids (delocalization, investment, politics and strategy)



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                       Why using an automated cost calculation ?

   What is the job of a Cost expert ?
         Analyse and consultation
         Optimize process
         Estimate Time and Cost

        Remark : Delay  and Risk 

   First reasons :
         Faster and more precise  One solution
         Optimization by simulation  The solution

   Main reasons:
         Repetitiveness, Reliability, Simulation tool
         Customizable (Costing know-how capitalization)
         Integration in the numerical chain (CAD-Costing-ERP)


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Manufacturing Day                                                                                           Page 13

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                        Costing : different approaches

    • Qualitative
           Intuitive or empirical
                From personal experience
           Analogical
                Search tool

    • Quantitative (calculation tool)
           Analytical
                Exhaustive description of all the process operations
           Parametrical
                Parameterization of analytical approach
           Statistical
                “Black box” system with variables  ex : pomp (flow rate, power, efficiency, rotation,…)



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                       Intuitive Approach

    • Unformal analogical approach

    • No real tool aids (sometime : excel file)
          cross-multiplication
          extrapolation
          direct costing without feedback loops


    • Implementation
        Based on personal experience and feeling




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Manufacturing Day                                                              Page 15

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                       Analogical approach

    • Concept
          Database of part references with specific description and cost
          Search engine or multicriteria request to find closest references
          Interpolation to estimate Cost


    • Problem : how do you valorize differences ?
          dimension, material
          serie

    • Implementation
          Collect data on part description with associated cost
          Formalize of part description
          Determinate cost drivers
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                       Analytical Approach

    • Description of the operational process
             “Exhaustive” list of all the required operations
             Calculation of TIME (Raw material, Machine)  COST
             Estimation of TIME (technological data)  COST
             Sum up to get global COST



• Implementation
     Customize cost database
     Add-on specific ops.




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                       Parametrical approach (1)

  • Plain parametrical formula :

       Cost = Cost (material+drilling+machining+controlling)
              Raw Material = Vol (L*l*H) * C1
              Drilling = (Nb of drills)*C2+(Nb of taps)*C3
              Machining = (Vraw-Vfinish)*C4
              Controlling = (50 ch) * C5

       Implementation
            Quite close from intuitive approach



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May 10th, 2011
                       Parametrical approach (2)

  • Parametrical based on analytical approach
       Identification of the
            relevant process
       Change parameters
       Validate for
          cost calculation


   • Implementation
         Collect data on process
         Realize initial estimates
          with analytical approach



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Manufacturing Day                                                                        Page 19

May 10th, 2011
                       Statistical approach

  • No access to analytical approach / Few information / Complex project
  • Early phase in the Product Life Cycle
       Parametrical approach based on statistical laws (Cost Estimation Relationship)
        extracted from large ERP database




  • Implementation
        Collect input data on project
        Determine cost drivers
        Identify stat. laws :
             Regression
             Main composant analyse
             Difference


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Manufacturing Day                                                                              Page 21

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                           How to choose your approach ?



   Few information      Projects           Intuitive                   Analogical         Statistical
                                    X1                    X 10                      X50
                                                                   Parametrical
                                           Analytical

    Risk
                         Parts      X1     Analytical
  reduction
                                                                                    X50
                        Process     X1     Parametrical

 Maxi of information

                       Operations
                                    X1                    Change control


                                                          Setting-up


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                          Advantages / disadvantages

                                       Intuitive   Analogical   Analytical   Parametrical   Statistical


        Precise evaluation
                         Reliability                                                        
                      Sensitiveness                                                         
                        Right price
                                                                                            

        Implementation                                                                      

        Set-up easiness                                                                     

        Automation                                                                          

        Technical Level                                                                     

        Budget and resources                                                                




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Manufacturing Day                                                                         Page 23

May 10th, 2011         Challenges for a company
                       implementing a costing solution

    1. Correlation cost estimation and manufacturing cost
        (feedback loop)

    2. Update data (technical and economical)

    3. Training and customization

    4. Integration with ERP system (input and/or output)

    5. Implementation in a group with subsidiaries

    6. Vulgarization of Costing tool

    7. Education of “ordering party” and “sub/contractors” in exchanging 3D model files




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Manufacturing Day                                                Page 24

May 10th, 2011
                       Study-case : automated cost calculation

    from CAD file to Costing in few clicks !

    • Cetim TechniQuote
           analytical
           automatic/interactive

            Video




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Manufacturing Day                                                    Page 25

May 10th, 2011
                        Costing : perspectives

    -   Enlarge Costing to multi-technology :
          -   Sheet metal
          -   Tooling
          -   Forging
          -   Composites

    -   Mix performant approaches
          -   Statistical and analytical

    -   Costing orientations
          -   Introduce as a major phase in the Product Life Cycle
          -   Feed back to engineering
          -   Optimization of process for O&M department




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Manufacturing Day                                                          Page 26

May 10th, 2011




                                      Thank you for your attention

                                                  Cetim
                                         52, Avenue Félix-Louat
                                      France - 60 304 Senlis Cedex



                                             Laurent BERTELOOT
                                            Tel : (+33) 3 44 67 47 79
                                       Mail : laurent.berteloot@cetim.fr




   Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot

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Sirris manufacturingday2011 automated-calculation-cetim

  • 1. Manufacturing Day Page 1 May 10th, 2011 TechniQuote Automated cost calculation of complex parts L. Berteloot Software Department manager Cetim - France Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 2. Manufacturing Day Page 2 May 10th, 2011 0706-05-GB Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 3. Manufacturing Day The French Technological Institute Page 3 May 10th, 2011 for mechanics Governed by Articles L342.1 to L342.13 of the Code of Research Steered by mechanical industrialists under the State’s supervision Founded in 1965 700 people with 56% engineers Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 4. Manufacturing Day Making Technological choices Page 4 May 10th, 2011 for the future Mechatronics Design Simulation 4 Inspection Tests Measurement Technological axes Materials - Processes Sustainable development Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 5. Manufacturing Day Page 5 May 10th, 2011 Transfering of Technology to mechanical Small and Medium Companies Permanent information 30,000 visitors 15 technical days 2 international 800 participants to every month  60 mechanical mondays congresses flash Midest lectures More than 30 000 30 new performance reports technical calls/year 10 new issues/year Catalogues: Training, Publishing, Software Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 6. Manufacturing Day Page 6 May 10th, 2011 Automated cost calculation for complex parts Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 7. Manufacturing Day Page 7 May 10th, 2011 Introduction TIME, COST and PRICE • 3 different terms for a single concept COSTING Remark : Time will be also used for Delay Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 8. Manufacturing Day Page 8 May 10th, 2011 Costing of complex parts A part is complex by:  Geometry  Precision  Quantity of details  Manufacturing process  Assembly (number of parts and their types)  Standards Costing can become complex with informal aspects :  Importance for company (stakes and risks)  Delay to cost Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 9. Manufacturing Day Page 9 May 10th, 2011 What is in Technical Cost ? Technical Cost = Supply Cost + Manufacturing Cost • Cost = f(Quantity, Machine and Tools, Process, Labour Rate) Supply Cost  preparation (bar, forged, casted)  Losses (cutting mark, clamping, off cut) Manufacturing Cost :  O&M department  Prep. (machine / tools), Mounting  Machining + Tool Cost  Subcontracting (painting, treatment, …)  Controlling, Assembling, Logistics Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 10. Manufacturing Day Page 10 May 10th, 2011 What is NOT in Technical Cost ? Margins problem are complex and multiple : • Real margins : price = cost (1+ margin)  Manufacturing, Supplying, Subcontracting, • Hided costs  Commercial or organization costs,  Machine occupation rate, return on invest  Non estimated activities (logistics, transportation, controlling, …) • Risk coverage percentage Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 11. Manufacturing Day Page 11 May 10th, 2011 Costing : a global concept for company • Engineering : COST  Design to cost  Value engineering • Manufacturing : TIME* and COST  Process optimization  Anticipation of working load  Data Flow optimization  Best practices • Sales/Procurement : COST and PRICE  Shorten delay for quotation  Increase precision and reliability of tenders  Argue a quotation • Management : COST  Decision making aids (delocalization, investment, politics and strategy) Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 12. Manufacturing Day Page 12 May 10th, 2011 Why using an automated cost calculation ? What is the job of a Cost expert ?  Analyse and consultation  Optimize process  Estimate Time and Cost Remark : Delay  and Risk  First reasons :  Faster and more precise  One solution  Optimization by simulation  The solution Main reasons:  Repetitiveness, Reliability, Simulation tool  Customizable (Costing know-how capitalization)  Integration in the numerical chain (CAD-Costing-ERP) Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 13. Manufacturing Day Page 13 May 10th, 2011 Costing : different approaches • Qualitative  Intuitive or empirical  From personal experience  Analogical  Search tool • Quantitative (calculation tool)  Analytical  Exhaustive description of all the process operations  Parametrical  Parameterization of analytical approach  Statistical  “Black box” system with variables  ex : pomp (flow rate, power, efficiency, rotation,…) Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 14. Manufacturing Day Page 14 May 10th, 2011 Intuitive Approach • Unformal analogical approach • No real tool aids (sometime : excel file)  cross-multiplication  extrapolation  direct costing without feedback loops • Implementation  Based on personal experience and feeling Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 15. Manufacturing Day Page 15 May 10th, 2011 Analogical approach • Concept  Database of part references with specific description and cost  Search engine or multicriteria request to find closest references  Interpolation to estimate Cost • Problem : how do you valorize differences ?  dimension, material  serie • Implementation  Collect data on part description with associated cost  Formalize of part description  Determinate cost drivers Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 16. Manufacturing Day Page 16 May 10th, 2011 Analytical Approach • Description of the operational process  “Exhaustive” list of all the required operations  Calculation of TIME (Raw material, Machine)  COST  Estimation of TIME (technological data)  COST  Sum up to get global COST • Implementation  Customize cost database  Add-on specific ops. Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 17. Manufacturing Day Page 17 May 10th, 2011 Parametrical approach (1) • Plain parametrical formula :  Cost = Cost (material+drilling+machining+controlling)  Raw Material = Vol (L*l*H) * C1  Drilling = (Nb of drills)*C2+(Nb of taps)*C3  Machining = (Vraw-Vfinish)*C4  Controlling = (50 ch) * C5  Implementation  Quite close from intuitive approach Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 18. Manufacturing Day Page 18 May 10th, 2011 Parametrical approach (2) • Parametrical based on analytical approach  Identification of the relevant process  Change parameters  Validate for cost calculation • Implementation  Collect data on process  Realize initial estimates with analytical approach Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 19. Manufacturing Day Page 19 May 10th, 2011 Statistical approach • No access to analytical approach / Few information / Complex project • Early phase in the Product Life Cycle  Parametrical approach based on statistical laws (Cost Estimation Relationship) extracted from large ERP database • Implementation  Collect input data on project  Determine cost drivers  Identify stat. laws :  Regression  Main composant analyse  Difference Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 20. Manufacturing Day Page 21 May 10th, 2011 How to choose your approach ? Few information Projects Intuitive Analogical Statistical X1 X 10 X50 Parametrical Analytical Risk Parts X1 Analytical reduction X50 Process X1 Parametrical Maxi of information Operations X1 Change control Setting-up Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 21. Manufacturing Day Page 22 May 10th, 2011 Advantages / disadvantages Intuitive Analogical Analytical Parametrical Statistical Precise evaluation Reliability      Sensitiveness      Right price      Implementation      Set-up easiness      Automation      Technical Level      Budget and resources      Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 22. Manufacturing Day Page 23 May 10th, 2011 Challenges for a company implementing a costing solution 1. Correlation cost estimation and manufacturing cost (feedback loop) 2. Update data (technical and economical) 3. Training and customization 4. Integration with ERP system (input and/or output) 5. Implementation in a group with subsidiaries 6. Vulgarization of Costing tool 7. Education of “ordering party” and “sub/contractors” in exchanging 3D model files Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 23. Manufacturing Day Page 24 May 10th, 2011 Study-case : automated cost calculation from CAD file to Costing in few clicks ! • Cetim TechniQuote  analytical  automatic/interactive Video Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 24. Manufacturing Day Page 25 May 10th, 2011 Costing : perspectives - Enlarge Costing to multi-technology : - Sheet metal - Tooling - Forging - Composites - Mix performant approaches - Statistical and analytical - Costing orientations - Introduce as a major phase in the Product Life Cycle - Feed back to engineering - Optimization of process for O&M department Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot
  • 25. Manufacturing Day Page 26 May 10th, 2011 Thank you for your attention Cetim 52, Avenue Félix-Louat France - 60 304 Senlis Cedex Laurent BERTELOOT Tel : (+33) 3 44 67 47 79 Mail : laurent.berteloot@cetim.fr Automated cost calculation of complex parts – L. Berteloot