The Value Play - Finding the Right Level of Engagement
1. The Value Play –
Finding the Right Level
of Engagement
Jill Sawatzky
Director, Customer Success
Cloud Adoption Services - Citrix
2. About Me
Director of Customer Success at Citrix
• 6 years of experience in Customer Success
IBM
Citrix
Many customers transitioning to the cloud in both companies
Provides secure digital workspaces that unify apps, data and services for our customers.
2016 annual revenue of $3.42 billion
Citrix solutions are in use by more than 400,000 organizations including 99 percent of the
Fortune 100 and 98 percent of the Fortune 500.
6. Finding the right level of Engagement
1. Start with a high touch model.
2. Figure out which tasks are the most impactful.
3. Understand your sales pipeline.
4. Determine logical segments.
5. Build a CSM profile for each segment.
6. Calculate time required per segment.
7. Determine how many customers per CSM.
8. Sanity check: Determine revenue per CSM.
9. Calculate the number of CSMs needed in each segment.
10. 4. Determine Logical Segments
Global
(>$1M ACV)
Enterprise
(Named Account or >$350k
ACV)
Commercial
(Non-Named, <$350k ACV)
Pooled
(non-managed, >20% Active Use)
11. 5. Build a CSM Profile for each Segment
Focus Experience Accounts Portfolio Size
Customer
Success
Associate
Practice basics of CS
through success
planning and high level
product training
Entry level 0-2 years Small
1:20 (onboarding) or
1:200 (tech touch)
Customer
Success
Manager
Practice CS
fundamentals and learn
to develop health of
accounts and drive
expansion
3-5 years Medium
1:20 (onboarding) or
1:100 (tech touch)
Enterprise
Customer
Success
Manager
Practice strategic CS
methodologies that
improve the health of
the portfolio and drive
customer retention and
expansion
5+ years Large
1:20 (onboarding) or
1:12 (tech touch)
Global
Customer
Success
Manager
Expert on strategic CS
methodologies that
improve the health of
the portfolio and drives
customer retention and
expansion
10+ years Large+ 1:5 (managed)
12. 6. Calculate Time Required per Segment
0-90 DAYS 90-180 DAYS 180+ DAYS
EVENT BASED
AUTOMATED TOUCHES
TIME-BASED AUTOMATED
TOUCHES
HIGH • Warm intro from sales
• CAS kickoff session
• Monthly scheduled meetings
Review success plan
• Cloud configuration options
walk thru
• Technical check list walk
thru
• Roll-out plan guidance
• Communication plan
guidance
• Training plan guidance
• CSM monitored usage
• Monthly scheduled meetings
• Executive business reviews
• Customer reference
solicitation
• CSM monitored usage
• Monthly scheduled meetings
• Executive business reviews
• Customer reference
solicitation
• Best practice guidance
• Use case & success plan
expansion
• On-site visits CSM
monitored usage
• Drop in usage
• Low rNPS score
• High rNPS score
• Change in admin
• Change in sponsor
• Renewal in
120 days
• Many support tickets
• CAS welcome email
• tNPS SURVEY
• Account review email
• Various campaigns
• Cloud release guidance
MEDIUM
• Warm intro from sales
• CAS kickoff session
• Monthly scheduled meetings
• Review success plan
• Cloud configuration options
walk thru
• Technical check list walk
thru
• CSM monitored usage
• Account reviews
• Regular scheduled meetings
• Customer reference
solicitation
• CSM monitored usage
• Account reviews
• Regular scheduled meetings
• Customer reference
solicitation
• CSM monitored usage
• Drop in usage
• Low rNPS score
• High rNPS score
• Change in admin
• Change in sponsor
• Renewal in 120 days
• Many support tickets
• CAS welcome email
• tNPS survey
• Account review email
• Various campaigns
• Cloud release guidance
LOW
• Warm intro from sales
• CAS kickoff session
• Monthly scheduled meetings
• Review success plan
• Cloud configuration options
walk thru
• Technical check list walk
thru
• CSM monitored usage
• Customer reference
solicitation
• CSM monitored usage
• Customer reference
solicitation
• CSM monitored usage
• Drop in usage
• Low rNPS score
• High rNPS score
• Change in admin
• Change in sponsor
• Renewal in 120 days
• Many support tickets
• CAS welcome email
• tNPS SURVEY
• Account review email
• Various campaigns
• Cloud release guidance
13. Enterprise
15
Customers
per E.CSM
30
Customers
per
C.CSM
25%
Quarterly
Convert to
Low Touch
Global Enterprise CSM (G.CSM)
• $1M+ ACV Per Account
Enterprise CSM (E.CSM)
• Named or any customer >$350k
ACV
Commercial CSM (C.CSM)
• Customers <$350k ACV
• Move accounts to 20%+ Active Use
triggering movement from High Touch to
Low Touch
200
Customers
per P.CSM
Pooled
Pooled CSM (P.CSM)
• Reactive response to
Low Touch Adoption
Marketing Efforts
• Support F.CSM &
E.CSM
7. Determine How Many Customers Per CSM
Commercial
14. 8. Sanity Check: Calculate Revenue to be Managed
per CSM
200
Customers per
C.SM
Low Touch
15
Customers per
E.CSM
High Touch
30
Customers per
C.CSM
High Touch
Assumptions:
5
Customers per
G.CSM
High Touch
$5 M
ACV per HC
$4.5 M
ACV per HC
$1.5 M
ACV per HC
$10 M
ACV per HC
15. 9. Calculate the Number of CSMs Needed
CSMs Needed Q1 2018 Q2 2018 Q3 2018 Q4 2018 Q1 2019
Managers 3 5 5 6 7
Senior Enterprise 1 2 4 6
Enterprise 4 7 11 16 24
Commercial 5 9 14 18 27
Pooled 1 1 2 3 4
Total HC Needed 13 23 34 47 68
16. Results – the Citrix Engagement Model
$350 ACV
Enterprise
Customer Success Manager
$50-350k ACV
Commercial
Customer Success Manager
< $50k ACV
Customer Success Associate
Citrix Cloud
Customers
Cloud Adoption Services
Meaningful
Active Use
Every customer engages with CAS
until they reach meaningful active
use
Advise Implement Manage
Low
Touch
High
Touch
17. Results – $$’s!
Customers who engage
Cloud Adoption Services
expand revenue and
renew at an average of
126% of original purchase
So know that you know you need CAS on that wall, want us on that wall let’s talk about the make up of the team and how we are positioning the right talent in the right locations to deliver.
Now that we know that the Cloud Adoption team is all about setting up the expansion sale and making the renewal a non-event by focusing on getting customers to a level of active use that is meaningful to them, let’s talk about how. The true secret to a CAS engagement is ensuring the customer has defined measurable business outcomes that Citrix technologies can help them achieve and then creating a plan for achieving those outcomes.
From there we are supporting the customer and partner in executing against that plan should it how to put the end user at the center of the experience, sharing adoption best practices or simply keeping them informed of the newest/latest features available to them as part of their subscription.
It’s through these activities that we uncover revenue expansion opportunities and ultimately make the renewal a non-event.