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Amada
http://www.thefabricator.com/Buyers-Guides/Punching-Machine-Buyers-Guide.cfm
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Competiton analysis;
Amada EM
• 20 and 30 ton models No difference
• 1250 or 1500 frame size No difference
• 2500 0r 3000 table size FINN-POWER has both
• 4300 table size FINN-POWER only
• Overload control FINN-POWER automatic recovery
• Tooling, FINN-POWER versatility unmatched
• Turret FINN-POWER with customer specific lay-out
• Punching speeds No difference
• Axis speeds, FINN-POWER has higher
• Axis lenght, (2,5) FINN-POWER has full 3 meter
• Tables (75) FINN-POWER max 200 kg brush tables
• 3 sheet clamp FINN-POWER standard, optional 4th
• PCS FINN-POWER standard
• Work chute FINN-POWER also sorting available
• Index speed FINN-POWER has faster
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Competiton analysis;
Amada EM
• Tapping FINN-POWER tapping tool available
• Productivity FINN-POWER, tested, C5 is faster
• Connection power No difference
• Power consunption No difference
• Noise level No difference
• Lubrication No difference, standard on both
• Upforming FINN-POWER indexable with standard forming
tools, programmable
• Cooling (air) FINN-POWER has water cooling
• User interface FINN-POWER has Tulus as standard
• Adjustable stroke lenght No difference, both directions, up and low
postition
• Static force on forming FINN-POWER has 20 ton static force
• Options and automation FINN-POWER has wider range
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Production time comparison
Nesting run on different FINN-POWER
machines:
”Old” E5: 7 min 9 sec.
Amada EM: 6 min 12 sec
E5: 5 min 53 sec.
C5: 5 min 10 sec.
E6: 5 min 47 sec.
C6: 4 min 48 sec
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AMADA AC 2510: 8min 16sec.
Finn-Power E5x
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AMADA AC 2510: 6min 32sec.
Finn-Power E5x
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Amada automation
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Amada automation
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Amada automation
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Amada automation
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The Finn-Power TURRET
The turret! turret totally
INDEX std INDEX std INDEX std INDEX std INDEX std (16 mm) (8 mm)
Finn-Power (MT6A) 20 25 2 2 1 4 2 8 6
Finn-Power (MT24-8) 20 43 2 2 1 4 2 6 2 24
Finn-Power (MT6A, MT24-8) 20 48 2 2 1 3 2 8 6 24
Finn-Power ( 4 MT stations) 20 62 2 1 1 2 2 8 12 10 24
Finn-Power ( 4 MT stations) 20 80 3 1 2 2 8 6 10 48
Amada 31 Station 31 31 2 1 1 2 6 19 (8*)
Amada 44 Station 44 44 2 4 2 16 18 (6*)
Amada 45 Station 45 45 2 1 2 2 2 12 24 (16*)
Amada 58 Station 58 58 2 2 4 2 24 24 (16*)
Amada 62 Station 62 62 2 2 4 2 28 24 (16*)
LFK T3 30 30 2 2 2 8 16 (4*)
Trumpf 19 29 19 10
STATIONS
MultiToolsD (88,9 mm) C (50,8 mm) B (31,75 mm) A/MT6 (12,7mm)
STATION SIZE (max. punch diameter, mm) (* keyed)
E (114,3 mm)
Finn-Power:
•5...6 INDEX up to 88,9 mm (D)!
•More BIG stations!
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Amada
• Fixed turret
• Index stations, amount
• No multitools
• Wheel is not good
• Upforming, tools, indexing
• Overload recovery
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Trumpf
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Competiton analysis;
Trumpf
• 16,5 – 22 ton punching force FINN-POWER 20 – 30 ton
• 1250 or 1500 frame size No difference
• 2500 0r 3000 table size No difference
• 4300 table size FINN-POWER only ?
• Tooling, Multitools, forming, max diameter
• Tools on rail FINN-POWER with customer specific lay-out
• Punching speeds No difference
• Axis speeds, No difference
• Axis lenght, (2,5 or 3m) No difference
• Tables (200kg) No difference
• 3 sheet clamp FINN-POWER standard, optional 4th
• No PCS FINN-POWER standard
• Work chute +sorting No difference
• Index speed 330 FINN-POWER 166
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Competiton analysis;
Trumpf
• Tapping tool FINN-POWER tapping tool and TU6
• Productivity see next slides
• Connection power No difference
• Power consunption No difference
• Noise level No difference
• No machine Lubrication FP central lubrication
• No Upforming FINN-POWER indexable with standard forming
tools, programmable, bigger diam.
• Cooling (air) No difference
• GUI User interface FINN-POWER GUI option available
• Adjustable stroke lenght No difference, both directions, up and low
postition
• Options and automation FINN-POWER has wider range
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Trumpf automation
TruPunch 2020 C5 Compact express
Working range (without
repositioning)
2540 mm x 1270 mm 2530 mm x 1270 mm
Max. sheet thickness 6.4 mm 8.0 mm
Max. punching force 180 kN 300 kN
Max. stroke rate punching 900 1/min 1100 1/min
Max. stroke rate marking 2200 1/min 3000 1/min
Tools 19 with 2 clamps
Linear magazine
upto 150 with 3 clamps & PCS
Turret magazine
Programmable parts chute 180 mm x 200 mm 500 mm x 500 mm
Sorted part removal, to the left
and right
Yes Yes
Space requirements approx. 6448 mm x 7440 mm approx. 7100 mm x 7500 mm
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Trumpf automation
Sheet master
Trumpf’s ”LST”
• Same problems with
gripper
• Clamps are on the ”right” –
side
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Trumpf
NewTC5000:
• Water cooled motors
• Double motors (Like C6) on Y-axis
• 2g acc on small sheets with X-axis
• 330 rpm index
• Trumpf tooling, max diameter, upforming, tool change time, grindlife, wheel size
• Single head
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Danobat
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Why servo electric machine…?
• It has lower connection power
• It has lower electric consumption
• It is more accurate on punch control
• It is more accurate and versatile on forming
• Upforming is servo controlled and programmable
• It has same tonnages than hydraulic machine
• It has almost same punch speed than hydraulic machine
• There are no oil inside
• Lower maintenance costs
• When needed accurate and versatile forming functions
Give me more reasons…
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Why hydraulic machine…?
It has more speed on punching today
It will be allways faster
It has allways 30 ton available
It has more tonnages on forming
It has full automatic overload protection and recovery
No mechanical tear and wear
NewF4 hydraulic has lower connection power
NewF4 hydraulic has lower electric consumption
NewF4 is more accurate on punch control
NewF4 has less oil inside
When needed a strong work horse
Give me more reasons…
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Production time comparison - Nesting below run on different FINN-POWER
machines:
A5: 14 min 30 sec
X5: 13 min 3 sec.
E5x: 11 min 25 sec.
C5: 10 min 51 sec.
E5: 10 min 56 sec.
E6: 10min 25 sec.
C6: 9 min 9 sec