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Getting	
  the	
  Goods:	
  
Interviews	
  that	
  Work	
  
Jacqui	
  Banaszynski	
  
Knight	
  Chair	
  in	
  Editing	
  at	
  the	
  University	
  of	
  Missouri	
  
May	
  8-­‐9,	
  2013	
  
Poll Question #1
What are your
primary purposes or
goals when you do
an interview?
Photo by flickr user isafmedia
THE	
  PURPOSE	
  OF	
  INTERVIEWS	
  
•  Quotes	
  
•  Informa:on	
  
•  Verifica:on	
  and	
  confirma:on	
  
•  Accountability	
  (puEng	
  it	
  on	
  the	
  
record)	
  
•  Credibility,	
  focus	
  and	
  relevance	
  
•  Context	
  or	
  background	
  
(But	
  wait!!!	
  There’s	
  more…)	
  
	
  
Photo by flickr user boboroshi
PURPOSE	
  (con:nued)	
  
•  Emo:on	
  
•  Character	
  
•  Color	
  
•  Scene	
  
•  Reconstruc:on	
  
•  Other	
  sources	
  
•  Other	
  stories	
  
	
  
MULTIPLE	
  PLATFORMS	
  and	
  
PRESSURES	
  
•  Inves:ga:ve	
  vs.	
  in:macy	
  
•  Deadline	
  vs.	
  immersion	
  
•  Print	
  vs.	
  broadcast	
  
•  Live	
  vs.	
  scripted	
  
•  In	
  person	
  vs.	
  phone	
  
•  Email	
  (uck!!!!)	
  
Photo by flickr user dmjarvey
PLAN,	
  PREPARE,	
  PROBLEM-­‐SOLVE	
  
•  Most	
  important	
  part	
  of	
  an	
  interview	
  
happens	
  BEFORE	
  the	
  interview	
  
•  Purpose	
  drives	
  sourcing,	
  strategy	
  and	
  
approach	
  
•  PlaVorm	
  plays	
  a	
  role	
  
•  Problems	
  need	
  to	
  be	
  an:cipated	
  and	
  
addressed	
  
•  And	
  then	
  there’s	
  personality…	
  
–  Yours	
  
–  Your	
  source/subject’s	
  
Photo by flickr user
stevendepolo
SOURCING	
  FOR	
  SUCCESS	
  
• 	
  Four	
  primary	
  techniques	
  to	
  
plan	
  and	
  source	
  stories	
  for	
  
best	
  success	
  
–  1.	
  Two-­‐plus-­‐two	
  planning	
  
–  2.	
  Stakeholder	
  wheel	
  
–  3.	
  Four	
  buckets	
  
–  4.	
  Magic	
  or	
  guru	
  sources	
  
	
  
Let’s	
  get	
  to	
  work…	
  Photo by flickr user Rafael Amado Deras
1.	
  TWO-­‐PLUS-­‐TWO	
  PLANNING	
  
•  Quickly	
  iden:fies	
  &	
  priori:zes	
  sources	
  
•  Iden:fies	
  related	
  enterprise	
  or	
  follow-­‐up	
  
•  Two	
  double-­‐barreled	
  lists:	
  
What	
  do	
  you	
  
need	
  to	
  know?	
  
• How	
  will	
  you	
  
find	
  out?	
  
What	
  do	
  you	
  
want	
  to	
  know?	
  
• How	
  will	
  you	
  
find	
  out?	
  
SITUATION	
  1:	
  DOWNTOWN	
  PARK	
  	
  
•  Tensions	
  at	
  a	
  downtown	
  park	
  or	
  
plaza	
  
–  Park	
  with	
  open	
  area	
  and	
  rides	
  
–  Put	
  in	
  by	
  city	
  to	
  ahract	
  families,	
  
events,	
  etc.	
  as	
  part	
  of	
  downtown	
  
revival	
  
–  Has	
  become	
  popular	
  spot	
  for	
  the	
  
homeless	
  	
  
–  Merchants	
  are	
  pushing	
  for	
  
crackdowns	
   Photo by flickr user jc.winkler
ACTIVITY	
  1:	
  	
  Plan	
  two-­‐plus-­‐two	
  
Photo by flickr user jc.winker
What	
  do	
  you	
  
need	
  to	
  know?	
  
• How	
  will	
  you	
  
find	
  out?	
  
What	
  do	
  you	
  
want	
  to	
  know?	
  
• How	
  will	
  you	
  
find	
  out?	
  
PLOTTING:	
  
Priori:ze	
  and	
  Problem-­‐solve	
  
•  What	
  are	
  your	
  priority	
  needs	
  
in	
  order?	
  
–  Deadlines,	
  plaVorms,	
  audience	
  
•  What	
  problems	
  do	
  you	
  
an:cipate,	
  and	
  how	
  can	
  you	
  
solve?	
  
–  Access,	
  :me,	
  ethics,	
  off-­‐the-­‐record	
  
–  Source/subject	
  mistrust	
  
Photo by flickr user Hey Paul Studios
2.	
  STAKEHOLDER	
  or	
  SOURCING	
  
WHEELS	
  
•  Stakeholders	
  
–  Primary	
  experts	
  or	
  most	
  affected	
  subjects	
  
•  Story	
  keepers	
  
–  Eyewitnesses	
  
•  Readers/Audience	
  
–  Who	
  they	
  are	
  and	
  what	
  they	
  need/want	
  to	
  
know	
  
•  Other	
  experts	
  
–  Background,	
  context,	
  perspec:ve	
  
–  Fresh	
  insights	
  or	
  story	
  angles	
  
Photo by flickr user
Illusive Photography
STAKEHOLDER	
  WHEEL	
  
•  Quick	
  iden:fica:on	
  of	
  
everyone	
  who	
  is	
  a	
  source	
  
and	
  subject	
  
•  Also	
  iden:fies	
  secondary	
  
sources	
  &	
  audiences	
  for	
  in-­‐
depth	
  enterprise	
  follow-­‐ups
By Flickr user dok1
HUB = News
SPOKES = Primary
stakeholders
RIM = Secondary stakeholders
SITUATION	
  2:	
  GROCERY	
  STORE	
  
•  Hip	
  and	
  popular	
  up-­‐market	
  
grocery	
  store	
  announces	
  
opening	
  on	
  edge	
  of	
  
downtown	
  
–  Area	
  borders	
  downtown	
  with	
  
growing	
  residen:al	
  popula:on,	
  
large	
  college	
  campus	
  and	
  
poorest	
  neighborhood	
  in	
  town	
  
–  Three	
  well-­‐established,	
  locally	
  
owned	
  grocery	
  chains	
  already	
  
in	
  market,	
  along	
  city	
  edges	
  
Photo by flickr user SodanieChea
ACTIVITY	
  2:	
  Spoke	
  the	
  wheel	
  
•  Who	
  is	
  most	
  in-­‐the-­‐know?	
  
•  Who	
  is	
  most	
  affected?	
  
•  Who	
  has	
  other	
  
connec:ons	
  or	
  interests	
  
that	
  might	
  be	
  
overlooked?	
  
•  Who	
  has	
  valuable	
  
background	
  or	
  
perspec:ve?	
  
HUB = News
SPOKES = Primary stakeholders
RIM = Secondary stakeholders
3.	
  FOUR	
  BUCKETS	
  
1.  Primary	
  stuff	
  
	
  News	
  makers,	
  necessary	
  info	
  and	
  
experts	
  
2.  Reac>onary	
  stuff	
  
	
  Those	
  affected;	
  needed	
  comment	
  or	
  
response	
  
3.  Contextual	
  stuff	
  
	
  Background,	
  history,	
  broader	
  view,	
  
relevance	
  
4.  Cool	
  stuff	
  
	
  Color,	
  descrip:on,	
  scene,	
  character	
  
Photo by flickr user ross_hawkes
SITUATION	
  3:	
  PEA-­‐PATCH	
  WARS	
  
•  Urban	
  “Pea	
  Patches”	
  
growing	
  in	
  popularity;	
  
tensions	
  rise	
  over	
  use	
  	
  
–  Data	
  shows	
  recent	
  
changes	
  in	
  users	
  and	
  use	
  
–  Follows	
  gentrifica:on	
  in	
  
urban	
  neighborhoods	
  
•  Refugees	
  and	
  migrants	
  
pushed	
  further	
  out	
  
	
  	
  
-­‐-­‐	
  Land	
  publicly	
  owned	
  but	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  	
  
	
  privately	
  maintained	
  
•  Safety	
  issues	
  cited	
  
•  Use	
  changing	
  from	
  food	
  
to	
  scenery	
  
PhotobyflickruserMelissaWall
ACTIVITY	
  3:	
  Fill	
  the	
  buckets	
  
1.  Primary	
  stuff	
  
	
  News	
  makers,	
  necessary	
  info	
  and	
  
experts	
  
2.  Reac>onary	
  stuff	
  
	
  Those	
  affected;	
  needed	
  comment	
  or	
  
response	
  
3.  Contextual	
  stuff	
  
	
  Background,	
  history,	
  broader	
  view,	
  
relevance	
  
4.  Cool	
  stuff	
  
	
  Color,	
  descrip:on,	
  scene,	
  character	
  
Photo by flickr user ross_hawkes
4.	
  MAGIC	
  SOURCES:	
  Masters,	
  
guides	
  and	
  gurus	
  
•  Back-­‐pocket	
  experts	
  
–  In	
  the	
  know,	
  but	
  not	
  in	
  the	
  spotlight	
  
•  Gurus	
  and	
  guides	
  
–  Help	
  shape	
  the	
  right	
  story,	
  right	
  sources,	
  
right	
  approach,	
  right	
  ques:ons	
  
•  Brokers	
  
–  Ambassadors	
  to	
  sources	
  and	
  stories	
  
Photo by flickr user
miss_millions
SITUATION	
  4:	
  PARKING-­‐GARAGE	
  
COLLAPSE	
  
•  Construc:on	
  accident	
  at	
  
parking	
  garage	
  being	
  built	
  at	
  
airport	
  
–  I-­‐Beams	
  collapsed	
  suddenly	
  
–  Seven	
  workers	
  fell;	
  three	
  killed	
  
–  Worst	
  industrial	
  accident	
  in	
  your	
  
area	
  in	
  history	
  
–  Construc:on	
  company,	
  port	
  
authority,	
  federal	
  inves:gators	
  
won’t	
  talk,	
  ci:ng	
  open	
  inves:ga:on	
  
Photo by flickr user Sean-Franc
ACTIVITY	
  4:	
  Find	
  the	
  magic	
  
•  Back-­‐pocket	
  experts	
  
–  In	
  the	
  know,	
  but	
  not	
  in	
  the	
  
spotlight	
  
•  Gurus	
  and	
  guides	
  
–  Help	
  shape	
  the	
  right	
  story,	
  
right	
  sources	
  and	
  right	
  
approach	
  
•  Brokers	
  
–  Ambassadors	
  to	
  sources	
  and	
  
stories	
  
PhotobyflickruserOCAlways
Tomorrow…	
  
•  SOURCE	
  CATEGORIES:	
  Access	
  &	
  
Ethics	
  
•  QUESTIONS	
  THAT	
  WORK	
  
–  Advanced	
  methods:	
  
•  Metzler:	
  Plan	
  and	
  execu:on	
  
•  Sawatsky:	
  Effec:ve	
  ques:ons	
  
•  Wilkerson:	
  “Accelerated	
  In:macy”	
  	
  
–  Beyond	
  informa:on	
  to	
  scene,	
  
character	
  and	
  story	
  
•  Being	
  present:	
  Observa:on	
  &	
  senses	
  
•  Not	
  being	
  present:	
  Reconstruc:on	
  
•  Storyteller	
  ques:ons	
  
Photo by flickr user Xurble

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  • 1. Getting  the  Goods:   Interviews  that  Work   Jacqui  Banaszynski   Knight  Chair  in  Editing  at  the  University  of  Missouri   May  8-­‐9,  2013  
  • 2. Poll Question #1 What are your primary purposes or goals when you do an interview? Photo by flickr user isafmedia
  • 3. THE  PURPOSE  OF  INTERVIEWS   •  Quotes   •  Informa:on   •  Verifica:on  and  confirma:on   •  Accountability  (puEng  it  on  the   record)   •  Credibility,  focus  and  relevance   •  Context  or  background   (But  wait!!!  There’s  more…)     Photo by flickr user boboroshi
  • 4. PURPOSE  (con:nued)   •  Emo:on   •  Character   •  Color   •  Scene   •  Reconstruc:on   •  Other  sources   •  Other  stories    
  • 5. MULTIPLE  PLATFORMS  and   PRESSURES   •  Inves:ga:ve  vs.  in:macy   •  Deadline  vs.  immersion   •  Print  vs.  broadcast   •  Live  vs.  scripted   •  In  person  vs.  phone   •  Email  (uck!!!!)   Photo by flickr user dmjarvey
  • 6. PLAN,  PREPARE,  PROBLEM-­‐SOLVE   •  Most  important  part  of  an  interview   happens  BEFORE  the  interview   •  Purpose  drives  sourcing,  strategy  and   approach   •  PlaVorm  plays  a  role   •  Problems  need  to  be  an:cipated  and   addressed   •  And  then  there’s  personality…   –  Yours   –  Your  source/subject’s   Photo by flickr user stevendepolo
  • 7. SOURCING  FOR  SUCCESS   •   Four  primary  techniques  to   plan  and  source  stories  for   best  success   –  1.  Two-­‐plus-­‐two  planning   –  2.  Stakeholder  wheel   –  3.  Four  buckets   –  4.  Magic  or  guru  sources     Let’s  get  to  work…  Photo by flickr user Rafael Amado Deras
  • 8. 1.  TWO-­‐PLUS-­‐TWO  PLANNING   •  Quickly  iden:fies  &  priori:zes  sources   •  Iden:fies  related  enterprise  or  follow-­‐up   •  Two  double-­‐barreled  lists:   What  do  you   need  to  know?   • How  will  you   find  out?   What  do  you   want  to  know?   • How  will  you   find  out?  
  • 9. SITUATION  1:  DOWNTOWN  PARK     •  Tensions  at  a  downtown  park  or   plaza   –  Park  with  open  area  and  rides   –  Put  in  by  city  to  ahract  families,   events,  etc.  as  part  of  downtown   revival   –  Has  become  popular  spot  for  the   homeless     –  Merchants  are  pushing  for   crackdowns   Photo by flickr user jc.winkler
  • 10. ACTIVITY  1:    Plan  two-­‐plus-­‐two   Photo by flickr user jc.winker What  do  you   need  to  know?   • How  will  you   find  out?   What  do  you   want  to  know?   • How  will  you   find  out?  
  • 11. PLOTTING:   Priori:ze  and  Problem-­‐solve   •  What  are  your  priority  needs   in  order?   –  Deadlines,  plaVorms,  audience   •  What  problems  do  you   an:cipate,  and  how  can  you   solve?   –  Access,  :me,  ethics,  off-­‐the-­‐record   –  Source/subject  mistrust   Photo by flickr user Hey Paul Studios
  • 12. 2.  STAKEHOLDER  or  SOURCING   WHEELS   •  Stakeholders   –  Primary  experts  or  most  affected  subjects   •  Story  keepers   –  Eyewitnesses   •  Readers/Audience   –  Who  they  are  and  what  they  need/want  to   know   •  Other  experts   –  Background,  context,  perspec:ve   –  Fresh  insights  or  story  angles   Photo by flickr user Illusive Photography
  • 13. STAKEHOLDER  WHEEL   •  Quick  iden:fica:on  of   everyone  who  is  a  source   and  subject   •  Also  iden:fies  secondary   sources  &  audiences  for  in-­‐ depth  enterprise  follow-­‐ups By Flickr user dok1 HUB = News SPOKES = Primary stakeholders RIM = Secondary stakeholders
  • 14. SITUATION  2:  GROCERY  STORE   •  Hip  and  popular  up-­‐market   grocery  store  announces   opening  on  edge  of   downtown   –  Area  borders  downtown  with   growing  residen:al  popula:on,   large  college  campus  and   poorest  neighborhood  in  town   –  Three  well-­‐established,  locally   owned  grocery  chains  already   in  market,  along  city  edges   Photo by flickr user SodanieChea
  • 15. ACTIVITY  2:  Spoke  the  wheel   •  Who  is  most  in-­‐the-­‐know?   •  Who  is  most  affected?   •  Who  has  other   connec:ons  or  interests   that  might  be   overlooked?   •  Who  has  valuable   background  or   perspec:ve?   HUB = News SPOKES = Primary stakeholders RIM = Secondary stakeholders
  • 16. 3.  FOUR  BUCKETS   1.  Primary  stuff    News  makers,  necessary  info  and   experts   2.  Reac>onary  stuff    Those  affected;  needed  comment  or   response   3.  Contextual  stuff    Background,  history,  broader  view,   relevance   4.  Cool  stuff    Color,  descrip:on,  scene,  character   Photo by flickr user ross_hawkes
  • 17. SITUATION  3:  PEA-­‐PATCH  WARS   •  Urban  “Pea  Patches”   growing  in  popularity;   tensions  rise  over  use     –  Data  shows  recent   changes  in  users  and  use   –  Follows  gentrifica:on  in   urban  neighborhoods   •  Refugees  and  migrants   pushed  further  out       -­‐-­‐  Land  publicly  owned  but                    privately  maintained   •  Safety  issues  cited   •  Use  changing  from  food   to  scenery   PhotobyflickruserMelissaWall
  • 18. ACTIVITY  3:  Fill  the  buckets   1.  Primary  stuff    News  makers,  necessary  info  and   experts   2.  Reac>onary  stuff    Those  affected;  needed  comment  or   response   3.  Contextual  stuff    Background,  history,  broader  view,   relevance   4.  Cool  stuff    Color,  descrip:on,  scene,  character   Photo by flickr user ross_hawkes
  • 19. 4.  MAGIC  SOURCES:  Masters,   guides  and  gurus   •  Back-­‐pocket  experts   –  In  the  know,  but  not  in  the  spotlight   •  Gurus  and  guides   –  Help  shape  the  right  story,  right  sources,   right  approach,  right  ques:ons   •  Brokers   –  Ambassadors  to  sources  and  stories   Photo by flickr user miss_millions
  • 20. SITUATION  4:  PARKING-­‐GARAGE   COLLAPSE   •  Construc:on  accident  at   parking  garage  being  built  at   airport   –  I-­‐Beams  collapsed  suddenly   –  Seven  workers  fell;  three  killed   –  Worst  industrial  accident  in  your   area  in  history   –  Construc:on  company,  port   authority,  federal  inves:gators   won’t  talk,  ci:ng  open  inves:ga:on   Photo by flickr user Sean-Franc
  • 21. ACTIVITY  4:  Find  the  magic   •  Back-­‐pocket  experts   –  In  the  know,  but  not  in  the   spotlight   •  Gurus  and  guides   –  Help  shape  the  right  story,   right  sources  and  right   approach   •  Brokers   –  Ambassadors  to  sources  and   stories   PhotobyflickruserOCAlways
  • 22. Tomorrow…   •  SOURCE  CATEGORIES:  Access  &   Ethics   •  QUESTIONS  THAT  WORK   –  Advanced  methods:   •  Metzler:  Plan  and  execu:on   •  Sawatsky:  Effec:ve  ques:ons   •  Wilkerson:  “Accelerated  In:macy”     –  Beyond  informa:on  to  scene,   character  and  story   •  Being  present:  Observa:on  &  senses   •  Not  being  present:  Reconstruc:on   •  Storyteller  ques:ons   Photo by flickr user Xurble