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30 | Winning Edge
feature face time
rep spends with individuals on the buying team has
to demonstrate a level of understanding, knowledge,
empathy and technical competence that sets them apart
— for all the right reasons.
During these meetings the performance of the sales
rep and members of the sales team is obviously
important to the outcome of the opportunity. What is
also becoming clear is the high expectation of the buying
team, especially in terms of their hopes and fears in
selecting a vendor. While buyers are becoming more
sophisticated, they are still being sold to in a way that:
n Does not recognise where they are in the buying cycle
n Is not respectful of their time
n Is not seen as sophisticated and does not add value to
the process.
This is emphasised by the quote here from a site for
chief information officers (CIOs), who for many of us
represent one of the most important buyers. They
found that, “CIOs constantly tell us that they want a
partnership from the vendors they work with. In every
interview or conference session we chair with CIOs, they
say their nirvana is to treat vendors as an equal in the
gnoring the state of the economy,
today’s sales challenges can be
seen in two dimensions. The first
is the sheer level of information
available to buyers, both factual and
through social networking, which
is ‘arming them to the teeth’, to
quote from a previous article (see
Winning Edge, November/
December 2011). These issues
can be described as a ‘clear and
present threat’, many of which I
covered in that article.
The second is, as it has always
been, people buying from people.
This aspect has never been so
important, even though it is clear the
amount of time a rep has with buyers
is reducing. As such, it has never been
so important that the rep makes this
time as productive as possible, but
also meets the needs of the buyer in a
way that differentiates them from the
competition. This makes the time reps
have with buyers a real opportunity and, at
the same time, a real risk.
To compound the challenge the buying
process is getting longer and the number of
buyers involved is growing. The 2013 Sales
Performance Optimization report by CSO
Insights highlights this, finding:
n 75% of deals sold to new name customers took 	
	 four months or more to close
n 80% of deals involved three or more buyers
(see graph)
n 53% of initial conversations with prospects do not 		
	 progress to the next stage.
While it is problematic to try to reduce the amount
of time a deal takes to close, or the number of buyers
involved, it is possible to make the initial conversations
as effective as they can be.
As mentioned, the amount of time a sales rep has
in conversation with prospects is reducing, and the
likelihood is that this trend will continue. But many
complex purchases still depend on face-to-face meetings
and presentations. In these opportunities, the time the
Having
the right
conversationIn today’s selling environment, the time salespeople spend with
buyers is critical. They must make it count, says David Batup
I
Right conversion matrix
3
33.4%
5
19.2%
≥6
14.7%
4
12.3%
2
16.4%
1
4%
Number of individuals involved in final buy decision
development of applications that will benefit both
businesses. But the sad truth that they experience is
an ill-informed visitor who has not researched their
organisation or its needs and then all too often bores
them to death with a time-wasting PowerPoint
presentation.” (Source: www.cio.co.uk)
In a complex sale, we all know the problem is
compounded by the growing number of people in the
buying team. Each member is tasked with the same goal
of sourcing a solution, but all with very different needs
and wants. These needs will range considerably from
strategic to business to technical to contractual.
Meeting the needs of each buyer or influencer is complex
and requires an understanding of:
n Each role and their responsibilities in terms of the
procurement solution
n The impact of the decision on them and their career
n Any preferences or prejudices towards vendors that
they might have.
So far this is fairly standard stuff — except that for a
significant number of sales reps this is not standard.
Researchers at Forrester, among others, have found that
sales reps are not relating to buyers, let alone meeting
their needs as part of the buying team. In its 2012 report,
Executive buyer insight study: Are salespeople prepared
for executive conversations? Forrester found that:
“To avoid being relegated to commodity status,
vendors are refining their sales strategies to engage with
higher level decision-makers earlier in the problem-
solving process. Getting a meeting with these executives
is hard, but turning that meeting into a successful first
conversation takes a lot more effort. Forrester’s survey
of senior-level buyers highlights the gap between what
they expect and their actual experience with salespeople.
To close this preparation gap, sales enablement
professionals must start shifting the sales support
content and training agendas from focusing on their own
company and offerings to focusing more on the specific
people that sales teams will encounter and the realities
those customers deal with.”
As part of an ongoing assignment, I have been
fortunate to be working with a buyer in a major financial
services organisation and a CIO from a mobile operator.
I asked them what it is that, beyond the mechanics
of buying, annoys them the most about sales team
behaviour. Their responses were almost word for word
the same and they were animated when they described
their experiences. They were very similar to those
documented before in much larger studies by
organisations such as CSO Insights and Rain Group.
But it seemed much more impactful talking to them in
person. Summarising their personal issues came down to:
n Being heard and understood
n Talking with someone who can relate and empathise
with their challenges
n Engaging with individuals who earn their trust through
what they do, not what they say.
You would think by now that these behavioural traits
in sales teams would have been adopted as standard and
relegated to the most basic of sales training courses —
but it would seem not. I think this presents a great
opportunity to those leaders of sales teams who see the
problem and are prepared to do something about it.
People will continue to buy from people, and the focus
on customer experience and emotional intelligence in
32 | Winning Edge
sales is, and will be in the future, as important as the
technical and motivational components that make up a
first class sales rep. However, as both buying and selling
processes become more and more sophisticated through
systems, unprecedented levels of information, and sheer
immediacy of access to data, it is easy to overlook buyers
as people with individual business needs and feelings.
The members of the buying team have:
n The same goal but different needs
n Different levels of risk reward
n Differing understanding of the business needs and
technical requirements
n Personal preferences or prejudices that could get in
the way.
So how does the sales team relate to these challenges
and ensure that they work and behave in a way that
differentiates them from the competition? This is a
challenge because, when it comes to the shortlist stage, a
lot of what might have been seen as differentiation by
the sales team will have been marginalised. Usually, as a
result of pre-decision negotiation, factors such as price,
technical fit, contract, features and functions will be on
or near par with your competition.
The differentiation in these situations will be down to
the buying team’s answer to, ‘Can we work with these
people?’ and how they feel about you. Their experience
of working with you during the procurement cycle will
shape this view of you, your team and your company.
Of course, within the buying team there will be
preferences and clear differences. But when the shortlist
is viewed as a whole it often presents the buyers with a
difficult decision, as there will not be much clear water
between the vendors. But clear water can be created by
ensuring that:
n The overall customer experience enhances the way the
prospect assesses what it would be like to work with you
n The sales team is able to establish professional and
personal credibility with the buying team
n The sales team is able to articulate the business need
and the impact of your proposed solution at all levels
and functions within the prospect.
It is this last item that is both obvious, but at the same
time opaque. It is obvious that being able to relate to a
chief executive in a way that is meaningful is a good
thing. But it is not enough. Being able to relate to all
the buyers in their own terms, regardless of the job role
they have or the part they play in the buying team,
demonstrates a deep understanding and empathy.
I would go further. This ability to relate at a personal
level also shows respect to the individual you are talking
to through an understanding of how difficult their role is
in the procurement process. Many of these decisions can
be career-limiting for buyers if the solution does not
meet its stated aims.
This can be described as ‘business chaining’ and it is
‘Remember, most buyers are work-
rich and time-poor. Generally, they
favour giving time to sellers who add
value and just understand how to
communicate with them’
feature face time
Winning Edge | 33
mapped to the hierarchy of the buying team and its
influencers. The benefit of this approach is to ensure
all meetings with all buyers have a positive outcome.
You could call this the ‘right conversation’. The right
conversation is one that:
n Is in the Context of the business and its goals
n Is Relevant to the role of the person you are talking to
n Is Timely in terms of the challenges they face or
actions they are about to take.
Remember, most buyers are work-rich and time-poor.
Generally, they favour giving time to sellers who add
value and just understand how to communicate with
them. Everyone else gets a poor look in or no time at all.
The principle of the right conversation applies to buyers
and influencers alike. It works best if the selling team
can have these conversations up and down the
organisational structure of the buying team. They should
converse using the principles of Context, Relevance and
Timing with whomever they are meeting, be that the
CEO, business manager or staff specialist.
The best way to do this is to relate to the individual,
their role, needs and responsibilities within the
framework of the project or business challenge being
addressed. This requires some effort and is best
undertaken by the sales team as a whole.
Above is a ‘Right Conversation Matrix’ developed for
an IT storage solution. The challenge here was to relate
storage all the way up to a business and strategic level.
In the first column we put the core strategic and
business needs of the customer. The individuals involved
in the procurement are listed across the form to create
the matrix. The traffic light indicates the strength of the
relationship that has been built so far.
In this example, it is clear that there is some significant
ground to make up.
As you can see there were five decision-makers in the
buying team from C-suite to specialist level. In order to
have the right conversation with each individual, the
accurate development of the matrix was important.
Using a combination of research, insights and company
knowledge we were able to help the sales team identify
the link between the business need, the individual’s role
and how the solution benefited them. To reinforce the
importance of this, everything in any of the boxes had to
have a provenance that would stand scrutiny. This might
seem overkill, but it helped to eliminate the main
enemies of this process, namely:
n Assumptions, “I thought…”
n Unverifiable sources, “But we all know...”
n Preconceptions or views, “The last time I did this...”
This development of the matrix was run as a workshop
with the extended sales team and other technical help.
Throughout the workshop everyone in the sales team
developed a deep understanding of how their solution
related to each of the buyers. The benefits were:
n Confidence in discussing the business need and
solution with all the buyers
n Having what could be described as a value proposition
for each buyer
n Being able to rehearse different situations before
meeting or phoning buyers.
By taking a workshop approach many misconceptions
and misunderstandings were cleared up early, before
they became issues or were aired at the customer site.
The business-chaining shown in the example above
meant that all conversations with prospects were in
context, relevant and timely to the individual concerned.
The messages developed were also used in the
proposal and in the final presentation of the solution.
Again, the objective was to ensure that everyone in the
decision process was engaged with and that their needs
were met. Anyone new to the selling team (other
specialists, project managers etc.) was talked through the
opportunity and the needs of each individual using the
right-conversation table. This had a deep, positive impact
on the buyers and influencers involved in the process.
A significant spin-off advantage was the consistency
of the message being relayed to the buying team. This
increased the clarity of the benefits of the solution.
The application of the right conversation is powerful.
It relates to buyers as individuals and is respectful of
their time, position and workload. In this way, sales
teams can create clear water between themselves and
their competitors, which will influence the final decision.
Contributor David Batup is a director of SBR Consulting, a
specialist sales performance consultancy. Visit www.sbrconsulting.com,
call 0845 873 3939 or mobile 07785 593827.
.
Achieve more for less Reduced IT operating
environments, leading
to simplification and
reduced cost
Reducing footprint and cost,
increased efficiency, faster
deployment, simple and easy
to manage
Has this goal for the firm’s IT,
reducing footprint and cost,
increased efficiency, faster
deployment, simple and easy
to manage
Reducing cost and operating
complexity
Reduced footprint and
faster access
Driving efficiency and
effectiveness across IT
Reducing the storage
capacity; more efficient and
cost-effective
Providing agility – efficient
deployment
Data centre project – what
was achieved, especially in
terms of‘net positive’
Cost of management and
running (power and cooling)
Common platform for
management and
deployment
Improve energy savings Supporting the 2020
‘net positive’energy goal
‘Net positive’achievement
of goals
‘Net positive’message to
improve market perception
Supporting the 2020
‘net positive’, especially in
terms of footprint/energy
Reduce footprint (up to 50%)
leading to a reduction in
power and cooling
Enable expansion into new
markets
Re-use existing resources and
develop new markets
Common platform to allow
rapid roll out, reduced time
to market
Reduced complexity and
management of new
installations
Improved user experience
and reduced complexity
Proven pre-built architecture
with rapid deployment
Meet compliance and
governance requirements
Faster reporting and
awareness of non-
compliance issues
Unified architecture, single
platformfor allrequirements,
enhanced reporting
Unified architecture, single
platformfor allrequirements,
reduced complexity and total
cost of ownership
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operating environment
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platformfor allrequirements,
reduced complexity and total
cost of ownership
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Right conversation

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  • 2. rep spends with individuals on the buying team has to demonstrate a level of understanding, knowledge, empathy and technical competence that sets them apart — for all the right reasons. During these meetings the performance of the sales rep and members of the sales team is obviously important to the outcome of the opportunity. What is also becoming clear is the high expectation of the buying team, especially in terms of their hopes and fears in selecting a vendor. While buyers are becoming more sophisticated, they are still being sold to in a way that: n Does not recognise where they are in the buying cycle n Is not respectful of their time n Is not seen as sophisticated and does not add value to the process. This is emphasised by the quote here from a site for chief information officers (CIOs), who for many of us represent one of the most important buyers. They found that, “CIOs constantly tell us that they want a partnership from the vendors they work with. In every interview or conference session we chair with CIOs, they say their nirvana is to treat vendors as an equal in the gnoring the state of the economy, today’s sales challenges can be seen in two dimensions. The first is the sheer level of information available to buyers, both factual and through social networking, which is ‘arming them to the teeth’, to quote from a previous article (see Winning Edge, November/ December 2011). These issues can be described as a ‘clear and present threat’, many of which I covered in that article. The second is, as it has always been, people buying from people. This aspect has never been so important, even though it is clear the amount of time a rep has with buyers is reducing. As such, it has never been so important that the rep makes this time as productive as possible, but also meets the needs of the buyer in a way that differentiates them from the competition. This makes the time reps have with buyers a real opportunity and, at the same time, a real risk. To compound the challenge the buying process is getting longer and the number of buyers involved is growing. The 2013 Sales Performance Optimization report by CSO Insights highlights this, finding: n 75% of deals sold to new name customers took four months or more to close n 80% of deals involved three or more buyers (see graph) n 53% of initial conversations with prospects do not progress to the next stage. While it is problematic to try to reduce the amount of time a deal takes to close, or the number of buyers involved, it is possible to make the initial conversations as effective as they can be. As mentioned, the amount of time a sales rep has in conversation with prospects is reducing, and the likelihood is that this trend will continue. But many complex purchases still depend on face-to-face meetings and presentations. In these opportunities, the time the Having the right conversationIn today’s selling environment, the time salespeople spend with buyers is critical. They must make it count, says David Batup I Right conversion matrix 3 33.4% 5 19.2% ≥6 14.7% 4 12.3% 2 16.4% 1 4% Number of individuals involved in final buy decision
  • 3. development of applications that will benefit both businesses. But the sad truth that they experience is an ill-informed visitor who has not researched their organisation or its needs and then all too often bores them to death with a time-wasting PowerPoint presentation.” (Source: www.cio.co.uk) In a complex sale, we all know the problem is compounded by the growing number of people in the buying team. Each member is tasked with the same goal of sourcing a solution, but all with very different needs and wants. These needs will range considerably from strategic to business to technical to contractual. Meeting the needs of each buyer or influencer is complex and requires an understanding of: n Each role and their responsibilities in terms of the procurement solution n The impact of the decision on them and their career n Any preferences or prejudices towards vendors that they might have. So far this is fairly standard stuff — except that for a significant number of sales reps this is not standard. Researchers at Forrester, among others, have found that sales reps are not relating to buyers, let alone meeting their needs as part of the buying team. In its 2012 report, Executive buyer insight study: Are salespeople prepared for executive conversations? Forrester found that: “To avoid being relegated to commodity status, vendors are refining their sales strategies to engage with higher level decision-makers earlier in the problem- solving process. Getting a meeting with these executives is hard, but turning that meeting into a successful first conversation takes a lot more effort. Forrester’s survey of senior-level buyers highlights the gap between what they expect and their actual experience with salespeople. To close this preparation gap, sales enablement professionals must start shifting the sales support content and training agendas from focusing on their own company and offerings to focusing more on the specific people that sales teams will encounter and the realities those customers deal with.” As part of an ongoing assignment, I have been fortunate to be working with a buyer in a major financial services organisation and a CIO from a mobile operator. I asked them what it is that, beyond the mechanics of buying, annoys them the most about sales team behaviour. Their responses were almost word for word the same and they were animated when they described their experiences. They were very similar to those documented before in much larger studies by organisations such as CSO Insights and Rain Group. But it seemed much more impactful talking to them in person. Summarising their personal issues came down to: n Being heard and understood n Talking with someone who can relate and empathise with their challenges n Engaging with individuals who earn their trust through what they do, not what they say. You would think by now that these behavioural traits in sales teams would have been adopted as standard and relegated to the most basic of sales training courses — but it would seem not. I think this presents a great opportunity to those leaders of sales teams who see the problem and are prepared to do something about it. People will continue to buy from people, and the focus on customer experience and emotional intelligence in 32 | Winning Edge sales is, and will be in the future, as important as the technical and motivational components that make up a first class sales rep. However, as both buying and selling processes become more and more sophisticated through systems, unprecedented levels of information, and sheer immediacy of access to data, it is easy to overlook buyers as people with individual business needs and feelings. The members of the buying team have: n The same goal but different needs n Different levels of risk reward n Differing understanding of the business needs and technical requirements n Personal preferences or prejudices that could get in the way. So how does the sales team relate to these challenges and ensure that they work and behave in a way that differentiates them from the competition? This is a challenge because, when it comes to the shortlist stage, a lot of what might have been seen as differentiation by the sales team will have been marginalised. Usually, as a result of pre-decision negotiation, factors such as price, technical fit, contract, features and functions will be on or near par with your competition. The differentiation in these situations will be down to the buying team’s answer to, ‘Can we work with these people?’ and how they feel about you. Their experience of working with you during the procurement cycle will shape this view of you, your team and your company. Of course, within the buying team there will be preferences and clear differences. But when the shortlist is viewed as a whole it often presents the buyers with a difficult decision, as there will not be much clear water between the vendors. But clear water can be created by ensuring that: n The overall customer experience enhances the way the prospect assesses what it would be like to work with you n The sales team is able to establish professional and personal credibility with the buying team n The sales team is able to articulate the business need and the impact of your proposed solution at all levels and functions within the prospect. It is this last item that is both obvious, but at the same time opaque. It is obvious that being able to relate to a chief executive in a way that is meaningful is a good thing. But it is not enough. Being able to relate to all the buyers in their own terms, regardless of the job role they have or the part they play in the buying team, demonstrates a deep understanding and empathy. I would go further. This ability to relate at a personal level also shows respect to the individual you are talking to through an understanding of how difficult their role is in the procurement process. Many of these decisions can be career-limiting for buyers if the solution does not meet its stated aims. This can be described as ‘business chaining’ and it is ‘Remember, most buyers are work- rich and time-poor. Generally, they favour giving time to sellers who add value and just understand how to communicate with them’ feature face time
  • 4. Winning Edge | 33 mapped to the hierarchy of the buying team and its influencers. The benefit of this approach is to ensure all meetings with all buyers have a positive outcome. You could call this the ‘right conversation’. The right conversation is one that: n Is in the Context of the business and its goals n Is Relevant to the role of the person you are talking to n Is Timely in terms of the challenges they face or actions they are about to take. Remember, most buyers are work-rich and time-poor. Generally, they favour giving time to sellers who add value and just understand how to communicate with them. Everyone else gets a poor look in or no time at all. The principle of the right conversation applies to buyers and influencers alike. It works best if the selling team can have these conversations up and down the organisational structure of the buying team. They should converse using the principles of Context, Relevance and Timing with whomever they are meeting, be that the CEO, business manager or staff specialist. The best way to do this is to relate to the individual, their role, needs and responsibilities within the framework of the project or business challenge being addressed. This requires some effort and is best undertaken by the sales team as a whole. Above is a ‘Right Conversation Matrix’ developed for an IT storage solution. The challenge here was to relate storage all the way up to a business and strategic level. In the first column we put the core strategic and business needs of the customer. The individuals involved in the procurement are listed across the form to create the matrix. The traffic light indicates the strength of the relationship that has been built so far. In this example, it is clear that there is some significant ground to make up. As you can see there were five decision-makers in the buying team from C-suite to specialist level. In order to have the right conversation with each individual, the accurate development of the matrix was important. Using a combination of research, insights and company knowledge we were able to help the sales team identify the link between the business need, the individual’s role and how the solution benefited them. To reinforce the importance of this, everything in any of the boxes had to have a provenance that would stand scrutiny. This might seem overkill, but it helped to eliminate the main enemies of this process, namely: n Assumptions, “I thought…” n Unverifiable sources, “But we all know...” n Preconceptions or views, “The last time I did this...” This development of the matrix was run as a workshop with the extended sales team and other technical help. Throughout the workshop everyone in the sales team developed a deep understanding of how their solution related to each of the buyers. The benefits were: n Confidence in discussing the business need and solution with all the buyers n Having what could be described as a value proposition for each buyer n Being able to rehearse different situations before meeting or phoning buyers. By taking a workshop approach many misconceptions and misunderstandings were cleared up early, before they became issues or were aired at the customer site. The business-chaining shown in the example above meant that all conversations with prospects were in context, relevant and timely to the individual concerned. The messages developed were also used in the proposal and in the final presentation of the solution. Again, the objective was to ensure that everyone in the decision process was engaged with and that their needs were met. Anyone new to the selling team (other specialists, project managers etc.) was talked through the opportunity and the needs of each individual using the right-conversation table. This had a deep, positive impact on the buyers and influencers involved in the process. A significant spin-off advantage was the consistency of the message being relayed to the buying team. This increased the clarity of the benefits of the solution. The application of the right conversation is powerful. It relates to buyers as individuals and is respectful of their time, position and workload. In this way, sales teams can create clear water between themselves and their competitors, which will influence the final decision. Contributor David Batup is a director of SBR Consulting, a specialist sales performance consultancy. Visit www.sbrconsulting.com, call 0845 873 3939 or mobile 07785 593827. . 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