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What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Cold Calling:
How to get from
Interruption to
Conversation!
September 19, 2013
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Tibor Shanto
• Principal – Renbor Sales Solutions Inc.
• Drive numbers by building top sales performers through
process and behavioural change
• Focus on Execution
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Commitment to Action
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Today’s Focus
• Current Climate
• Leveraging Intel and Strategy to win
• The Dynamics of B2B Prospecting
• Proactive regimen
• Execution
@discoverorg @TiborShanto
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
• Sales (All) people will do one of two things:
▪ Execute
▪ Excuses
• Execution – Everything Else is Just Talk
Taking Action
@discoverorg @TiborShanto
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Persistent Execution
• 48% Of Sales People Never Follow Up with a Prospect
• 25% Of Sales People Make a Second Contact and Stop
• 12% Of Sales People Make a Third Contact and Stop
• Only 10% Of Sales People Make More Than Three
Contacts
• 2% Of Sales Are Made On the First Contact
• 3% Of Sales Are Made On the Second Contact
• 5% Of Sales Are Made On the Third Contact
• 10% Of Sales Are Made On the Fourth Contact
• 80% Of Sales Are Made On the Fifth to Twelfth
Contact
@discoverorg @TiborShanto
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Sales
Revenue
$$$$$$$
Profit
Prospects
Direct
Engagement
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Using DiscoverOrg to QUICKLY
• Identify the new IT Buyer
• Better understand them
• Speak their language
@discoverorg @TiborShanto
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Target
Market70%
Status Quo
Timing
@discoverorg @TiborShanto
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Quality of Execution
70%
Status Quo
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
75% of customers who leave or switch vendors for a competitor,
when asked, say they were ‘satisfied or completely satisfied’ with
the vendor they left, at the time they switched.
‘Customer Loyalty Guaranteed’ Bell & Patterson
Old Perception: Happy – Not Looking = Closed to alternatives
Yet to be presented or perceive a solution worth switching for!
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
75% of customers who leave or switch vendors for a competitor,
when asked, say they were ‘satisfied or completely satisfied’ with
the vendor they left, at the time they switched.
‘Customer Loyalty Guaranteed’ Bell & Patterson
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Prospects are Created – Not found
Why People Buy
@disoverorg @TiborShanto
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Why Do People Buy
Risk Avoidance
Financial
Productivity
Time Shifting
Self-Interest
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Business
Continuity
State of the Art
NOC –
Continuity of
operations
through
disruption
Anticipate
Prevent
Respond
Predictable
operating costs
Scalable
Mitigate Client
impact/sat and
financial losses
Reduced
downtime
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Deficient Pipeline
Lack of Prospects
Job Loss
Disciplined Metrics
hands-on support
20%  in real
prospects – Ian
Martin IT
Allows them to
be selective
Higher Margins
Accurate
Forecasts
Shorter Sales
Cycles
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Talk Track
• How can you directly support their goals?
• Can you help resolve their biggest issue?
• Can you help them reduce risk?
• Can you add value to their services?
• Can you enhance their reputation?
• Can you reduce their cost of doing business?
Win – Lose – Draw – 360o Deal Review
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Building a Talk Track QUICKLY with
DiscoverOrg
• Identify your Target accounts
• Understand their technology landscape
• Outline how you can solve their problem
• Build the Red Alerts and Real-Time Trigger notification
• Email notifications
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Speak Their Language
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
The Fact Remains
• Nearly 50% of B2B reps did not make quota?
• Over 80% of revenue from existing accounts & products
▪ What is your attrition rate?
• Conversion rate of lead to engagement remains low?
@discoverorg @TiborShanto
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
The Big Question
• Why is it that Sales People don’t like to Prospect?
1. Fear of Rejection – Objections
2. Not a good use of time
3. Too many other things to do
4. Not enough leads
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Their Answer
• Why is it that Sales People don’t like to prospect?
1. Fear of Rejection – Objections
 Not about avoiding – it is about managing
 The Good News – One sure proof way to avoid Rejection
 Bad News – Don’t make the call
 Oddly, the number one choice of many sellers!
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Consider
• According to Sales Benchmark Index
(www.salesbenchmarkindex.com)
• The median conversion (across all B2B industries) for
SQL (Sales Qualified Lead) to Close is 11-15%
• The average contact to appointment conversion rate is
roughly 14%
@discoverorg @TiborShanto
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Reality
• Lack of process!
▪ Timing/Time
▪ System/Methodology/Process
▪ Metrics
▪ Persistence
▪ Execution
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Time
• Time – The Great Equalizer
• 1760 Hours – Investment Capital
How do you Maximize
your ROT?
Return On Time
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Time
• There are only two things you can do with Time
• Clue: One of them is not Manage it!
• You can Use It or Waste It
• Time Management – A stupid Concept
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Time Allocation
• You can only allocate time, you can’t manage it
• You can manage activities within the time allocated!
Prospecting
Selling
Acc’t Mgent
Admin
Prep/research
Prospecting %
Selling %
Acc’t Mgent %
Admin %
Prep/research %
%
%
%
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Manage Activities
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Multi-Tasking
Another Stupid Concept
Just an opportunity to not get a
whole bunch of things done at once
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
The Usual System
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
How Important is a System?
1996 - 2002
@discoverorg @TiborShanto
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
How Important is a System?
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Appointments
Prospects
Proposals
Leads
Metrics
Sales
1
2
2
2
3
6
12
24
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Annual Target Average Deal Size
$500,000 $10,410
Monthly Target Sales Per Month
$41,667 4.00
Conversion Rates: Ratio
PROPOSAL to CLOSED! 60%
DISCOVERY to PROPOSAL 55%
INITIAL MEETING to DISCOVERY 75%
PROPOSAL 7
DISCOVERY 12
INITIAL MEETING 16
Prospecting Ratios Average Monthly
Required
Daily
Prospecting
Activity
Attempted calls (Dials) 12 194 10
Talk to (Contacts) 6 97 5
Appointments 1 16 0.8
©Renbor Sales Solutions Inc. 2004 -2012
Monthly Actuals Needed
Monthly Initial Meeting Reaquired
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Segment & Target
Industry Clasification or
Type of Business
Total in My
Territory
Number I
have as
Customers
Remaining
Prospects
Potential
Revenue
Profile
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALESPotential to Close
10
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
X
XX
X
X
X
Opportunity Matrix
“What’s in Your Pipeline?”
10
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
A Proven Methodology
I - Initiate
E - Engage
IQ - Impact Question
R - Ready
TiA - Take it Away
C - Commit
• The average contact to appointment is roughly 14%,
or 7 : 1 That’s for Cold Calls!
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
NO!
NO!
NO!
NO!
Objections – Rejection
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Deal with Rejection
• Interruptive Marketing
• Five Biggies:
Status Quo
No Interest
Time
Bad Experience
Send
What you do – Not how you avoid!
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Recycle
• Touch: keep on DRIP list,
indirect communication
every 30 to 90 days, i.e.
Newsletter, product
notices…
▪ Move to Contact 30 days before
scheduled contact date
• Contact: qualified for a call
back as a result of initial
call, but not immediate
appointment; or those move
up from Touch
• Engage: Those leads that
take an appointment and
are now either a firm first
appointment or Prospect
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Persistence
• Persistence: You are a long way from an Injunction Order!
• 48% Of Sales People Never Follow Up with a Prospect
• 25% Of Sales People Make a Second Contact and Stop
• 12% Of Sales People Make a Third Contact and Stop
• Only 10% Of Sales People Make More Than Three Contacts
• 2% Of Sales Are Made On the First Contact
• 3% Of Sales Are Made On the Second Contact
• 5% Of Sales Are Made On the Third Contact
• 10% Of Sales Are Made On the Fourth Contact
• 80% Of Sales Are Made On the Fifth to Twelfth Contact
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Time To Commit
Write Down Three Things You Will Put Into
Practice
When
1)
2)
3)
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Tibor Shanto
What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
Thank you
Tibor Shanto
Principal
Renbor Sales Solution$ Inc.
(855) 25-SALES
Tibor.Shanto@SellBetterca
www.SellBetter.ca
www.SellBetter.ca/blog
twitter.com/TiborShanto
Henry Schuck
Chief Revenue Officer
DiscoverOrg
800-914-1220
hschuck@discoverorg.com
@discoverorg

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Cold Calling: How to get From Interruption to Conversation

  • 1. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Cold Calling: How to get from Interruption to Conversation! September 19, 2013
  • 2. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Tibor Shanto • Principal – Renbor Sales Solutions Inc. • Drive numbers by building top sales performers through process and behavioural change • Focus on Execution
  • 3. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Commitment to Action
  • 4. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Today’s Focus • Current Climate • Leveraging Intel and Strategy to win • The Dynamics of B2B Prospecting • Proactive regimen • Execution @discoverorg @TiborShanto
  • 5. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES • Sales (All) people will do one of two things: ▪ Execute ▪ Excuses • Execution – Everything Else is Just Talk Taking Action @discoverorg @TiborShanto
  • 6. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Persistent Execution • 48% Of Sales People Never Follow Up with a Prospect • 25% Of Sales People Make a Second Contact and Stop • 12% Of Sales People Make a Third Contact and Stop • Only 10% Of Sales People Make More Than Three Contacts • 2% Of Sales Are Made On the First Contact • 3% Of Sales Are Made On the Second Contact • 5% Of Sales Are Made On the Third Contact • 10% Of Sales Are Made On the Fourth Contact • 80% Of Sales Are Made On the Fifth to Twelfth Contact @discoverorg @TiborShanto
  • 7. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Sales Revenue $$$$$$$ Profit Prospects Direct Engagement
  • 8. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
  • 9. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
  • 10. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Using DiscoverOrg to QUICKLY • Identify the new IT Buyer • Better understand them • Speak their language @discoverorg @TiborShanto
  • 11. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Target Market70% Status Quo Timing @discoverorg @TiborShanto
  • 12. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Quality of Execution 70% Status Quo
  • 13. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES 75% of customers who leave or switch vendors for a competitor, when asked, say they were ‘satisfied or completely satisfied’ with the vendor they left, at the time they switched. ‘Customer Loyalty Guaranteed’ Bell & Patterson Old Perception: Happy – Not Looking = Closed to alternatives Yet to be presented or perceive a solution worth switching for!
  • 14. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES 75% of customers who leave or switch vendors for a competitor, when asked, say they were ‘satisfied or completely satisfied’ with the vendor they left, at the time they switched. ‘Customer Loyalty Guaranteed’ Bell & Patterson
  • 15. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Prospects are Created – Not found Why People Buy @disoverorg @TiborShanto
  • 16. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Why Do People Buy Risk Avoidance Financial Productivity Time Shifting Self-Interest
  • 17. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Business Continuity State of the Art NOC – Continuity of operations through disruption Anticipate Prevent Respond Predictable operating costs Scalable Mitigate Client impact/sat and financial losses Reduced downtime
  • 18. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Deficient Pipeline Lack of Prospects Job Loss Disciplined Metrics hands-on support 20%  in real prospects – Ian Martin IT Allows them to be selective Higher Margins Accurate Forecasts Shorter Sales Cycles
  • 19. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Talk Track • How can you directly support their goals? • Can you help resolve their biggest issue? • Can you help them reduce risk? • Can you add value to their services? • Can you enhance their reputation? • Can you reduce their cost of doing business? Win – Lose – Draw – 360o Deal Review
  • 20. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Building a Talk Track QUICKLY with DiscoverOrg • Identify your Target accounts • Understand their technology landscape • Outline how you can solve their problem • Build the Red Alerts and Real-Time Trigger notification • Email notifications
  • 21. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Speak Their Language
  • 22. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES The Fact Remains • Nearly 50% of B2B reps did not make quota? • Over 80% of revenue from existing accounts & products ▪ What is your attrition rate? • Conversion rate of lead to engagement remains low? @discoverorg @TiborShanto
  • 23. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES The Big Question • Why is it that Sales People don’t like to Prospect? 1. Fear of Rejection – Objections 2. Not a good use of time 3. Too many other things to do 4. Not enough leads
  • 24. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Their Answer • Why is it that Sales People don’t like to prospect? 1. Fear of Rejection – Objections  Not about avoiding – it is about managing  The Good News – One sure proof way to avoid Rejection  Bad News – Don’t make the call  Oddly, the number one choice of many sellers!
  • 25. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Consider • According to Sales Benchmark Index (www.salesbenchmarkindex.com) • The median conversion (across all B2B industries) for SQL (Sales Qualified Lead) to Close is 11-15% • The average contact to appointment conversion rate is roughly 14% @discoverorg @TiborShanto
  • 26. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
  • 27. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Reality • Lack of process! ▪ Timing/Time ▪ System/Methodology/Process ▪ Metrics ▪ Persistence ▪ Execution
  • 28. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Time • Time – The Great Equalizer • 1760 Hours – Investment Capital How do you Maximize your ROT? Return On Time
  • 29. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Time • There are only two things you can do with Time • Clue: One of them is not Manage it! • You can Use It or Waste It • Time Management – A stupid Concept
  • 30. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Time Allocation • You can only allocate time, you can’t manage it • You can manage activities within the time allocated! Prospecting Selling Acc’t Mgent Admin Prep/research Prospecting % Selling % Acc’t Mgent % Admin % Prep/research % % % %
  • 31. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Manage Activities
  • 32. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Multi-Tasking Another Stupid Concept Just an opportunity to not get a whole bunch of things done at once
  • 33. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES The Usual System
  • 34. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES How Important is a System? 1996 - 2002 @discoverorg @TiborShanto
  • 35. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES How Important is a System?
  • 36. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Appointments Prospects Proposals Leads Metrics Sales 1 2 2 2 3 6 12 24
  • 37. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Annual Target Average Deal Size $500,000 $10,410 Monthly Target Sales Per Month $41,667 4.00 Conversion Rates: Ratio PROPOSAL to CLOSED! 60% DISCOVERY to PROPOSAL 55% INITIAL MEETING to DISCOVERY 75% PROPOSAL 7 DISCOVERY 12 INITIAL MEETING 16 Prospecting Ratios Average Monthly Required Daily Prospecting Activity Attempted calls (Dials) 12 194 10 Talk to (Contacts) 6 97 5 Appointments 1 16 0.8 ©Renbor Sales Solutions Inc. 2004 -2012 Monthly Actuals Needed Monthly Initial Meeting Reaquired
  • 38. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
  • 39. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Segment & Target Industry Clasification or Type of Business Total in My Territory Number I have as Customers Remaining Prospects Potential Revenue Profile
  • 40. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALESPotential to Close 10 X X X X X X X X XX X X X Opportunity Matrix “What’s in Your Pipeline?” 10
  • 41. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES A Proven Methodology I - Initiate E - Engage IQ - Impact Question R - Ready TiA - Take it Away C - Commit • The average contact to appointment is roughly 14%, or 7 : 1 That’s for Cold Calls!
  • 42. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES NO! NO! NO! NO! Objections – Rejection
  • 43. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Deal with Rejection • Interruptive Marketing • Five Biggies: Status Quo No Interest Time Bad Experience Send What you do – Not how you avoid!
  • 44. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Recycle • Touch: keep on DRIP list, indirect communication every 30 to 90 days, i.e. Newsletter, product notices… ▪ Move to Contact 30 days before scheduled contact date • Contact: qualified for a call back as a result of initial call, but not immediate appointment; or those move up from Touch • Engage: Those leads that take an appointment and are now either a firm first appointment or Prospect
  • 45. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Persistence • Persistence: You are a long way from an Injunction Order! • 48% Of Sales People Never Follow Up with a Prospect • 25% Of Sales People Make a Second Contact and Stop • 12% Of Sales People Make a Third Contact and Stop • Only 10% Of Sales People Make More Than Three Contacts • 2% Of Sales Are Made On the First Contact • 3% Of Sales Are Made On the Second Contact • 5% Of Sales Are Made On the Third Contact • 10% Of Sales Are Made On the Fourth Contact • 80% Of Sales Are Made On the Fifth to Twelfth Contact
  • 46. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES
  • 47. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Time To Commit Write Down Three Things You Will Put Into Practice When 1) 2) 3)
  • 48. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Tibor Shanto
  • 49. What’s in Your Pipeline? www.SellBetter.ca (855) 25-SALES Thank you Tibor Shanto Principal Renbor Sales Solution$ Inc. (855) 25-SALES Tibor.Shanto@SellBetterca www.SellBetter.ca www.SellBetter.ca/blog twitter.com/TiborShanto Henry Schuck Chief Revenue Officer DiscoverOrg 800-914-1220 hschuck@discoverorg.com @discoverorg