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Online Discussion Groups
Planning and facilitating for good
quality discussion
@leonie_learning
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Online Discussion Groups
1 Why include a group discussion in a course?
2 What discussion format or task best suits your purpose?
3 How will you motivate your students to contribute?
4 How will you prepare your students?
5 How will you coach your students?
Leonie Sloman
Instructional Design Manager
King’s Online
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These slides were developed from
 2012 assessed MA assignment for ‘Technology beyond the classroom’
module led by Martin Oliver, London Knowledge Lab
(now Institute of Education, University College London)
 2016 discussion for M25 LearningTechnologists Reading Group
established by Leonard Houx and MiraVogel, and presentation to
M25 LearningTechnology Group
 2017-19 workshops for:
Learning at City Conference, City, University of London
King’s Academy of Educators, King’sCollege London
E-Pedagogy module, MA in Clinical Education, King’sCollege London
1. Why include group
discussion in a course?
Why are you interested in including discussion in
your teaching?
What benefits do you hope for?
1 Why include group discussion in a course?
Why include group discussion in a course?1
Learners may find it more motivating to work
with others.
Particularly on online-only courses, where they
might be feeling isolated.
But some dislike it – how to support introverts?
Motivation?
Why include group discussion in a course?1
 articulation/explanation in own words
 exposure to different viewpoints
 theory applied to varied/personal contexts
 feedback - as well as direct feedback, can:
(a) witness peers’ feedback from teacher
(b) receive feedback from peers
Conceptual learning
Why include group discussion in a course?1
 Valuable in their own right
 Support better quality discussions in future
But these skills may need to be taught directly –
don’t just expect them to emerge from group work
Communication & argumentation skills
1 Why include group discussion in a course?
Start with a clear idea of why to include
discussion in teaching and what benefits are a
Motivation?
Conceptual learning:
 articulation/explanation in own words
 exposure to different viewpoints
 theory applied to varied/personal contexts
 feedback
Communication & argumentation skills?
Asterhan, C.S., & Schwarz, B.B. (2016). Argumentation for Learning: Well-
Trodden Paths and Unexplored Territories. Educational
Psychologist, 51(2), 164-187.
Online or face-to-face?
Robert
Heckman
Syracuse University,
Hala Annabi
University of Washington
Online vs face-to-face discussion
Heckman, R., & Annabi, H. (2005). A content analytic comparison of
learning processes in online and face‐to‐face case study
discussions. Journal of Computer‐Mediated Communication, 10 (2), 00-
Case
Study
Online vs face-to-face discussion
Robert taught a case-based Information Management course to 120 senior
undergraduates at Syracuse University.
He led facilitated discussions with four groups of about 30 students - each
group discussed two cases: one in a face-to-face (f2f) class and one in an
online discussion forum over a period of one week.
He tried to structure both the online and face-to-face discussions as similarly
as possible.
Hala then analysed and compared the discussion transcripts, coding them
according to a framework based partly on the ‘Practical Inquiry' model
(explained on Slide 20).
Case
Study
Heckman, R., &Annabi, H. (2005). A content analytic comparison of learning processes in online and
face‐to‐face case study discussions. Journal of Computer‐MediatedCommunication, 10 (2), 00-00.
Online vs face-to-face discussion
Face-to-face
More contributions (av 5)
Shorter contributions (av 30
words)
Case
Study
Online
Fewer contributions (av 2)
Longer contributions (av 100
words)
i.e. more words overall (200)
Heckman, R., & Annabi, H. (2005). A content analytic comparison of learning processes in
online and face‐to‐face case study discussions. Journal of Computer‐Mediated
Communication, 10 (2), 00-00.
Online vs face-to-face discussion
Face-to-face
Informal language
Safer environment to try out
formed ideas?
More exploration & factual
detail
Case
Study
Online
Formal, passive language
Space to try practice formal
language required in
assignments?
More analysis
Heckman, R., & Annabi, H. (2005). A content analytic comparison of learning processes in
online and face‐to‐face case study discussions. Journal of Computer‐Mediated
Communication, 10 (2), 00-00.
Face-to-face
Back and forth discussion
~50% teacher contributions
Online vs face-to-face discussionCase
Study
Heckman, R., & Annabi, H. (2005). A content analytic comparison of learning processes in online
and face‐to‐face case study discussions. Journal of Computer‐Mediated Communication, 10 (2),
00-00.
Online
Students took on more ‘teacher processes,
e.g. direct instruction, confirming
understanding and asking questions.
Teacher able to withdraw to 15%
But many posts didn’t receive any responsesS
S
S
T
T
T
T
T
S
S
T
S SS
S S S
T S
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S S
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Online and face-to-face?
Better nonverbal
communication & group
cohesion
Time for preparation – more analysis,
reflection & critical thinking
Flexible time & place
No technology needed
Searchable archive
Teacher less dominant
Repeated exposure through the
week
Simpler time commitment
More informal / experimental?
Online and face-to-face discussions complement each other and
may suit different people.
Face-to-face
Dyslexia / English as second language
–quicker than reading & writing
Online
More equal participation – especially
shy/introverted students
Schindler, L. A., & Burkholder, G. J. (2014). Instructional design and facilitation approaches that promote critical
thinking in asynchronous online discussions: A review of the literature. Higher Learning Research
Communications, 4(4), 11.
Hammond, M. (2005). A review of recent papers on online discussion in teaching and learning in higher
Online and face-to-face
Mon: STARTERS
Identify important insights
Identify difficult / confusing /
"murky“ aspects
Identify questions raised
Tues:
SEMINAR
Fri: INTEGRATORS
Synthesize discussion
Raise own questions
Wed:
RESPONDERS
Respond to starter’s
ideas
Raise own questions
Persell, C. H. (2004). Focused online discussions, moments of difficulty, and student understanding.
Social Science Computer Review 22 (2), 197-209.
An example of how to combine both (based around weekly
readings):
Triggers
Exploration
Integration
Resolution
Practical Inquiry
model
What is good quality discussion?
A lot of the literature analyses discussion contributions
in terms of the Practical Inquiry model:
Learners consider or test out how well the solutions
apply in the real world.
Learners become aware of a problem or express
confusion over an idea.
Learners share personal opinions and examples; they
might draw conclusions, make suggestions or
contradict each other, all without substantial rationale.
Learners connect together some of the ideas and
examples explored before, and make justified
conclusions/critiques.
Garrison, D. R., Anderson, T., & Archer, W. (2001). Critical thinking, cognitive presence, and
computer conferencing in distance education. American Journal of distance education, 15(1), 7-
23..
exploration
integration
resolution
triggers
Practical Inquiry
model
Researchers were disappointed
when studies showed students
tended to spend around half their
time in the exploration phase and
often barely reach a resolution.
But that accepts the view that all
good discussions reach a
resolution.
You may choose to use a
discussion to explore ideas and a
different task to integrate them.
Triggers
Exploration
Integration
Resolution
Experimental
studies
What is good quality discussion?
Practical Inquiry
model
Triggers
Exploration
Integration
Resolution
What is good quality discussion?
Other possible models for good quality thinking:
apply
analyze
evaluate
create
Blooms
identify/summarise an issue
Washington State University
Critical & Integrative Thinking
understand
consider context & assumptions
develop own perspective
use sources & evidence
integrate diverse perspectives
identify
conclusions/consequences
communicate effectively
What is good quality discussion?
Which stages of discussion or types of thinking
would you like your learners to display?
What counts as good quality thinking in the
discipline or topic you’re teaching?
2. What discussion format or
tasks best suit your purpose?
problems / exercises
project
resolution
creation
Can use online forums to support small group collaboration on a
task, or allow learners to compare approaches to completing a
task
case study
What discussion tasks best suit your purpose?2
Possible tasks / structures
Outcome-focused discussions:
If your aim is for learners to reach the ‘resolution’ stage (see
Practical Inquiry model explained earlier):
Aims
What discussion tasks best suit your purpose?2
Possible tasks / structures
FAQ Q&A
share information
build community sharing experiences
Simpler aims are also valid:
sharing
links/references
 to support each other as learners on this programme
 or to share different professional experiences from work/placements
Aims
case study
What discussion tasks best suit your purpose?2
Possible tasks / structures
integration
summaries
role play
(generic)
questioning
apply
analyze/
evaluate
understand
see different
perspectives
challenge and
defend ideas
debate
role play
(by disciplines)
Cognitive-focused discussions:
Discussion directly driving learning – building conceptual
knowledge.
Aims
Role play
By discipline:
Assigning professional roles to help learners engage with a case
study from different perspectives.
Role play
Wise, A. F., Saghafian, M., & Padmanabhan, P. (2012). Towards more precise design guidance:
Specifying and testing the functions of assigned student roles in online discussions. Educational
Technology Research and Development, 60(1), 55-82.
starter
devil’s advocate
elaborator questioner
summariser
new ideas evidence
Generic:
Assigning conversational roles – typically swapping each week
Does every student benefit or just those with key responsibilities?
e.g. the summariser, or the one who brings in the evidence.
Eg.s
Alyssa Wise and colleagues reviewed the kind of roles used in 8 other
studies and came up with 10 roles which they assigned out to students on
an educational technology course. Students rotated through the different
roles, and found the starter and devil’s advocate roles most effective.
Role play
Claim
I think….
Idea
How
about…?
Explanation
Because…
Question
But what if…?
Comment
I agree…
Scheuer, O., Loll, F., Pinkwart, N., & McLaren, B. M. (2010). Computer-supported argumentation: A
review of the state of the art. International Journal of Computer-Supported Collaborative
Learning, 5(1), 43-102.
Could encourage students to play any conversational role . Some software
packages prompt learners to decide what kind of contribution they're making.
E.g. Digalo: shape represents role ,and colour represents
agreement/disagreement.
Information
But what
about
when…
Argument
Yes,
because…
Because putting an idea into your own words and explaining it to a
peer helps you understand and remember material.
What discussion tasks best suit your purpose?2
understand
Cognitive-focus: building conceptual knowledge
summaries
explaining questioning
Why are these tasks recommended to build understanding?
What discussion tasks best suit your purpose?2
Cognitive-focus: building conceptual knowledge
For more complex subject matter, it helps to compare and try to resolve different
viewpoints or theories. This requires a ‘juicy’ discussion topic or an open problem,
and learners may need some coaching and prompting to argue in a productive way.
Complex
conceptual
understanding
compare
challenge
resolve disagreement role play
(by disciplines)
dilemma
express ideas
in own words
Simple
conceptual
understanding
Asterhan, C.S., & Schwarz, B.B. (2016). Argumentation for Learning: Well-
Trodden Paths and Unexplored Territories. Educational Psychologist, 51(2), 164-
187.
summaries
explaining questioning
What discussion tasks best suit your purpose?2
Both deliberative and competitive discussions help promote critical thinking, but
deliberative (collaborative) tasks are better for building conceptual knowledge.
In competitive discussion, the aim is to prove the other side wrong. Learning is
limited if people are reluctant to express more tentative ideas, or ignore others’
critiques of their own ideas.
In deliberative discussion, the emphasis is on exploring the strengths and weaknesses
of all ideas, regardless of who put them forward.
Deliberative
argument
comparing
challenging
resolving disagreement
convincing
discrediting debate
role play
(by disciplines)
dilemma
Competitive
argument
Asterhan, C.S., & Schwarz, B.B. (2016). Argumentation for Learning: Well-
Trodden Paths and Unexplored Territories. Educational Psychologist, 51(2), 164-
project
resolution creation
case study
What discussion tasks best suit your purpose?2
Possible tasks / structures
FAQ Q&Ashare information
build community sharing experiences
integration
summaries
role play
(generic)
questioning
apply
analyze/ evaluate
understand
see different
perspectives
challenge and
defend ideas
debate
role play
(by disciplines)
Cognitive-
focus
problems / exercises
Aims
Outcome-focus
Which formats or tasks will you try?
Looking over the list of suggested formats,
how easy do you think each would be to try
out?
Pick out which would be a good…
Quick win Next step Long-term
investment
3. How will you motivate
your students to contribute?
How will you motivate students to contribute?3
Will you assess?
Mark for contribution quality?
Flat participation mark?
How will you motivate students to contribute?3
VALUE
Should I do this?
Assessment /
penalty
extrinsic
value
intrinsic
value
PURPOSE
e.g. practising
assessed skills or
assignments
Assessment : risk of strategic contributions? e.g.
aiming to make a point before others, or waiting to the
end to summarise and elaborate on others' ideas.
Participation mark: risk of superficial hoop-jumping
contributions?
Purpose that clearly relates to the course aims, e.g.
• practice task, skills or language expected in the course or
for an exam/marked assignment
• receive and share feedback on each other's project plans.
Which is the best incentive for your learners?
What would best motivate your students?
Will they participate without an assessment?
What is the intrinsic value of the task?
3 How will you motivate students to contribute?
Sue Stearns
Eastern Washington University
Motivating students to read online discussions
Stearns, S.A. (2017). Student responsible learning: Getting students to read
online discussions. College Teaching, 65(2), 69-78.
Case
Study
Motivating students to read online discussions
Stearns, S.A. (2017). Student responsible learning: Getting students to
read online discussions. College Teaching, 65(2), 69-78.
Case
Study
Sue teaches a senior undergraduate course in communication
studies with two face-to-face seminars and one online discussion
a week.
Online discussion task:
Read set article
Post
Respond to 2 other posts
 link article’s scenario to relevant theory
 predict or evaluate the outcome
 justify their thinking
Motivating students to read online discussions
Stearns, S.A. (2017). Student responsible learning: Getting students to
read online discussions. College Teaching, 65(2), 69-78.
Case
Study
Sue was impressed by the quality of students posts, but only 1 or
2 out of 25 read the majority of their classmates’ posts. Most just
read the two required.
Her solution was to set an extended, graded task instead of the 2
responses:Read all posts & identify 3 themes
1
2
2
label theme
explain theme
provide 2 example
quotes
X 3themes
Sue found her time reading and grading their posts (2 hrs) still took less
than facilitating one face-to-face seminar (3 hrs).
Motivating students to read online discussions
Stearns, S.A. (2017). Student responsible learning: Getting students to read online
discussions. CollegeTeaching, 65(2), 69-78.
Case
Study
Full task timetable
Article available
Post
Read all posts and identify 3 themes
Wed pm
Fri 5pm
Sun 11pm
Mon amThemes graded
Sue’s work
90 mins
30 mins
Motivating students to read online discussions
Stearns, S.A. (2017). Student responsible learning: Getting students to
read online discussions. College Teaching, 65(2), 69-78.
Case
Study
Student outcomes and perceptions:
Students read 75-85% of available posts
87% recommended continuing the task
Student survey asking what they'd learned from the
assignment – they commonly said it was helpful:
- to see different perspectives
- when other posts clarified their own confusions
- when peers applied the themes to additional
contexts
Motivation
VALUE CONFIDENCE
Should I do
this?
Can I do this?
X
Confidence or ‘self-efficacy’
comes from:
• good preparation
• opportunities to practice
• feedback/coaching…
4. How will you
prepare your students?
4 How will you prepare your student?
Set clear expectations :
How many posts/responses should they write?
How long should posts be?
By when should they post?
How long should they spend on
this?
Alyssa Friend Wise
Simon Fraser University, British
(now New York University)
Jennifer Speer
Simon Fraser University, British Columbia
(now Prophix Software, Ontario)
Time spent on discussion forums
Wise, A. F., Speer, J., Marbouti, F., & Hsiao, Y. T. (2013). Broadening the notion
of participation in online discussions: examining patterns in learners’ online
listening behaviors. Instructional Science, 41 (2), 323-343.
Farshid Marbouti
Simon Fraser University, British Columbia
(now San Jose State University, California)
Ying-Ting (Tricia) Hsiao
Simon Fraser University, British Columbia
(now Exosite, Taiwan)
Case
Study
Time spent on discussion forumsCase
Study
It’s typical to ask students to write one or two posts a week. What
does that mean in terms of their time?
Alyssa led a research team that analysed the behaviour of 95
undergraduates studying organisational behaviour. Students had
participate in 3 online discussions in groups of 10-12, discussing a
challenge that related to the theory covered that week. The
one week each and students were encouraged to post more than
While many other studies focus on analysing the posts that
Alyssa's team was interested in the students’ reading behaviour –
call online ‘listening’.
They found that student behaviour fell into 3 main clusters…
Wise, A. F., Speer, J., Marbouti, F., & Hsiao, Y. T. (2013). Broadening the notion of participation
in online discussions: examining patterns in learners’ online listening behaviors. Instructional
Science, 41 (2), 323-343.
Time spent on discussion forumsCase
Study
Typical students (50%)
 Spent 25 min writing 2 posts (x190
 Also spent 1hr40 reading 20 posts!
 And scanned 15 posts
They logged in maybe 3-6 times a
half hour sessions.
Note that group size is important –
10 to 12 students in a group could
overwhelming number of posts to
Wise, A. F., Speer, J., Marbouti, F., & Hsiao, Y. T. (2013). Broadening the notion of
participation in online discussions: examining patterns in learners’ online listening behaviors.
Instructional Science, 41 (2), 323-343.
Time spent on discussion forumsCase
Study
‘Superficial listeners ‘(30%)
 Spent 20 min writing 1 or 2 posts (x210
 Spent 1 hour reading 20 posts
 And scanned 25 posts
These students logged in more often, maybe
times a week, but only for 10-15 min
They wrote posts of a similar length to the
students, but didn’t always write two.
Is the ‘superficial’ label fair or are they more
strategic? They opened more posts than
typical students, and read as many – might
be faster readers? Their grades weren’t
Wise, A. F., Speer, J., Marbouti, F., & Hsiao, Y. T. (2013). Broadening the notion of
participation in online discussions: examining patterns in learners’ online listening behaviors.
Instructional Science, 41 (2), 323-343.
Time spent on discussion forumsCase
Study
‘Broad listeners’ - or super-swots!
(20%)
 Spent 45 min writing 3 posts (x180
 Spent over 4 hrs reading 55 posts
 And scanned 55 posts – i.e. scanned
They'd often write an extra post.
They logged in daily, but tended to
at the end of the week, making sure
every post.
They also reviewed their own posts
times (others reviewed each once) – were
comparing their posts to others?
Wise, A. F., Speer, J., Marbouti, F., & Hsiao, Y. T. (2013). Broadening the notion of
participation in online discussions: examining patterns in learners’ online listening behaviors.
Instructional Science, 41 (2), 323-343.
Time spent on discussion forumsCase
Study
Typical students (50%)
30 min writing 2 posts
2 hr reading 20 posts
‘Superficial listeners’ /
strategic students (30%)
20 min writing 1or2
posts
1 hr reading 20 posts
‘Broad listeners’ /
conscientious students
(20%)45 min writing 3 posts
4 hr reading 55 posts
If students have to write one or two posts a week, they may
spend 1 to 5 hours on the task if they read other students’
posts too.
Wise, A. F., Speer, J., Marbouti, F., & Hsiao, Y. T. (2013). Broadening the notion of
participation in online discussions: examining patterns in learners’ online listening behaviors.
Instructional Science, 41 (2), 323-343.
How will you prepare your students?
Set clear expectations :
How many posts/responses should they write?
How long should posts
be?
By when should they post? (early deadline allows for more
responses)
How long should they spend on
this?
What makes a good post?
4
How will you prepare your students?
Think back to your discussion aims and task
– what kind of posts would count as ‘good’?
What kind of writing is unacceptable, or not quite
good enough?
4
Good posts: example guidelines
1. Writing style:
• Keep to one point per message
• Keep messages short
• Keep the discussion informal
2. Quality of posts: Support your arguments with evidence, e.g. established theories,
empirical data, thought experiments, etc.
3. Interaction:
• Comment on at least two other groups' posting
• You must always reply to comments to your posts
• If no one answers your posting, you can send invitations to three students for responses
• Build on existing ideas by quoting and paraphrasing other people’s messages
• If you have nothing more to add, wrap it up nicely with a concise summary
4. Constructive discussion:
• Be generous with compliments and encouragement
• It's also OK to disagree; try playing devil's advocate sometimes.
• Questions can be valuable contributions.
5. Risk-taking: This is a space to try out new ideas and share any confusion, struggles or
ignorance.
Wang, Y. M., & Chen, D. T. (2010). Promoting spontaneous facilitation in online
discussions: designing object and ground rules. Educational Media International, 47(3),
Good posts: example rubric
Criteria A (90-100%)
Outstanding
B (80-89%)
Proficient
C (70-79%)
Basic
D/F (0-69%)
Below expectations
Critical
thinking
Clear and logical statements
Shows insight, and engages
in analysis
Refutes bias
Substantial information
Thought, insight, and
analysis has taken place
Detects bias
Generally competent
Information is thin
and commonplace
Rudimentary and superficial
No analysis/insight displayed
Confusing
Lacks explanation of
reasoning
Evidence/
Argument
construction
Uses reliable evidence when
constructing arguments
Uses reliable evidence,
but may be out of
context or unrelated
Uses some evidence
although it may not
be sufficient to
support the argument
Uses no evidence or
unreliable, biased, or
misleading evidence
Uniqueness New ideas or examples
Connections made with
depth and detail
New ideas or
connections
Lacks depth and/or detail
Few, if any new ideas
or connections
Rehash or summarize
other postings no
new ideas
Simply stating “I agree with
…” without providing a solid
explanation that offers new
ideas
Timeliness See link below for full rubric
Grammar &
style
Regis University, Colorado: discussion board guidelines for Health Care Ethics course
Good posts
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Handouts:
 Explicit guidelines or rubrics (especially if assessing
contributions)
 Examples of good and ‘nearly good’ posts
 But beware overloading students with too much material to read
at the start of the course – a brief checklist might be enough
Good posts
Handouts: guidelines/rubrics/examples/checklist
Collaborative activity for students to create their own guidelines
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Good posts
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Handouts: guidelines/rubrics/examples/checklist
Collaborative activity to create own guidelines -
General skills training: critical thinking, constructive argument etc.
– May be worth investing in generic training if whole faculty plan to
use discussion throughout a course
Ongoing coaching & feedback – typically skills develop gradually
during the course with the facilitator’s help
How will you prepare your students?
Set clear expectations :
How many posts/responses should they write?
How long should posts
be?
By when should they post? (early deadline allows for more
responses)
How long should they spend on
this?
What makes a good post?
 provide guidance and examples or get students to create
some
 provide training or coaching to help students develop
discussion skills
4
5. How will you coach
your students?
‘Restrained’
presence
How will you coach your students?
Students often look to the teacher for the ‘right
answer’.
Take a step back to allow students the space to
answer each others' questions and take intellectual
risks, without feeling too closely monitored.
5
How will you coach your students?
Most advice is adapted from general small-group teaching:
5
 Use questions to prompt students to explain their thinking and
challenge each others' thinking, modelling how to do this politely.
 Try to direct their attention to the important aspects of the
problem or key concepts, rather than outright explaining or
summarising for them.
 Push for further detail in their explanations, and
clarifications.
Webb, N.M. (2009). The teacher's role in promoting collaborative
dialogue in the classroom. British Journal of Educational
Facilitation skills
How will you coach your students?
This is a systematic approach to promote critical thinking. There are
lots of resources available online that explain it.
Example questions are often grouped by the following purposes:
 clarify thinking
 probe underlying assumptions
 explore reasons/evidence
 explore alternative perspectives
 consider implications
 question the questions
5
Socratic questioning
Social presence
Social presence is a popular concept, but researchers often use it in
different ways.
1. Conveying your personality and mood via text
2. Interpreting others’ attempts to do the same
Kehrwald, B. (2008). Understanding social presence in text‐based online learning
environments. Distance Education, 29(1), 89-106.
Ben Kehrwald explains it as a student’s ability to demonstrate
that they are a real person with personality, feelings and
context – and engaged or available for discussion.
There are two skills involved in social presence:
Is social presence relevant?
The theory grew from concerns that the lack of social cues in online
discussion environments makes it hard to view other learners as real
people.
No eye contact, no body language, no tone of voice, maybe no photo.
MSN chat in 2005:
Is social presence relevant?
Facebook use in 2016: Approx 33 million Brits (half the population)
0
200
400
600
800
1000
1200
1400
1600
1800
2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015
Monthly active users on Facebook & Twitter (in millions)
Facebook
Twitter
Sources: Statista.com/eMarketer
Is social presence relevant?
All school leavers and most older adults are used to expressing
themselves in email and text messages.
Source: Office for National Statistics
0
20
40
60
80
100
16-24 25-34 35-44 45-54 55-64 65+
Daily computer use by age group (% UK)
2006 vs 2014
2006
2014
Internet use in 2018: 99% of Brits aged 16-44 (in previous 3
months)
80% of Brits aged 65-75 (in previous 3
months)
Is social presence relevant?
Social media is now very
widespread, so people know
how to demonstrate and
perceive social presence
Many discussion forums
support emoticons, images
and gifs .
Bullying and lack of authenticity
online suggest problems with
social presence
What is appropriate in social
media is not the same as in
educational settings
No! Yes!
Is social presence relevant?
Do your students already know each other?
Have they studied online before?
Are they all used to expressing themselves in
email and social media?
Do they use appropriate language?
How will you coach your students?5
Social presence
Students may need guidance and coaching to develop
these social skills in a similar way to the cognitive skills .
 Provide ice-breaker opportunities for students to find out more
about each other
 Model netiquette, incl. appropriate details to share about
oneself, and appropriate ways to express one’s personality and
mood online.
Netiquette
E.g. ‘Discussion Board Netiquette’ (2012) by byuicurdev
You could suggest a video for anyone who’s not taken an online course
before.
Ben Kehrwald
University of Southern Queenland
(now University of South Australia)
Social dynamics supporting collaborative learning
Kehrwald, B. (2010). Towards More Productive Online Discussions: Social
Presence and the Development of Interpersonal Relations. In L. Shedletsky &
J.E. Aitken (eds) Cases on Online Discussion and Interaction: Experiences and
Outcomes. New York: Information Science Reference (IGI Global), pp.159-174.
Case
Study
Social dynamics supporting collaborative learningCase
Study
Kehrwald, B. (2010). Towards More Productive Online Discussions: Social Presence and the
Development of Interpersonal Relations. In L. Shedletsky & J.E. Aitken (eds) Cases on Online
Discussion and Interaction: Experiences and Outcomes. New York: Information Science Reference
(IGI Global), pp.159-174.
Ben interviewed 20 postgraduates in Queensland who each had lots of
experience studying online in highly collaborative courses.
Based on these interviews, he identified six factors that help improve
online communication and critical discussion.
He argues that students need to establish good social presence for
these factors to emerge – and then these factors support good quality
discussion.
Social dynamics supporting collaborative learningCase
Study
Kehrwald, B. (2010). Towards More Productive Online Discussions: Social Presence and the
Development of Interpersonal Relations. In L. Shedletsky & J.E. Aitken (eds) Cases on Online
Discussion and Interaction: Experiences and Outcomes. New York: Information Science Reference
(IGI Global), pp.159-174.
NB Ben describes how the six factors are interconnected and
describes a progression between them in 5 stages, which I’ve
simplified into 3 stages:
Stage 1 / short term
commonality
respect
Stage 3 / longer term
interdependence
rapport /
group cohesion
Stage 2 / medium
term
safety
trust
Social dynamics supporting collaborative learningCase
Study
Kehrwald, B. (2010). Towards More Productive Online Discussions: Social Presence and the
Development of Interpersonal Relations. In L. Shedletsky & J.E. Aitken (eds) Cases on Online
Discussion and Interaction: Experiences and Outcomes. New York: Information Science Reference
(IGI Global), pp.159-174.
People feel more motivated to communicate with
group members they perceive as being similar to
themselves or who they admire.
 Similar background or interests sparks rapport.
 Shared aims for studying helped group cohesion.
 Similar professional/personal backgrounds made
people more confident interpreting others' posts or
sharing examples from their own context.
Respect is particularly important if there is nothing
obvious in common, and no natural rapport.
Stage 1 / short term
commonality
respect
Social dynamics supporting collaborative learningCase
Study
Kehrwald, B. (2010). Towards More Productive Online Discussions: Social Presence and the
Development of Interpersonal Relations. In L. Shedletsky & J.E. Aitken (eds) Cases on Online
Discussion and Interaction: Experiences and Outcomes. New York: Information Science Reference
(IGI Global), pp.159-174.
Stage 2 / medium
term
safety
trust
The ongoing social climate should make members
feel safe enough to take intellectual risks (ask
questions, admit confusion, test ideas) and engage
in more critical discussion – tolerating
disagreement.
Safety/trust also allows more open personal
disclosure – of anxieties about learning or of
personal context, helping build more commonality
and rapport.
Social dynamics supporting collaborative learningCase
Study
Kehrwald, B. (2010). Towards More Productive Online Discussions: Social Presence and the
Development of Interpersonal Relations. In L. Shedletsky & J.E. Aitken (eds) Cases on Online
Discussion and Interaction: Experiences and Outcomes. New York: Information Science Reference
(IGI Global), pp.159-174.
Stage 3/ long term Moving from discussion to collaboration (agreeing
shared meanings or creating a joint product).
This requires good rapport/group cohesion.
It also requires interdependence - relying on and
valuing each other's contributions.interdependence
rapport /
group cohesion
How will you coach your students?5
Ice-breakers
In light of Ben’s theory, an ice-breaker is an opportunity to help
students discover their points of commonality or explore their
differences.
You might ask them to share something about themselves
they're proud of to help spark respect.
Consider a trust-building exercise after a few weeks if tackling
difficult or controversial topics.
You might ask students to share what they’ve found most
difficult about the course so far and help another person with a
topic they’ve found difficult.
The aim is students feel safe to admit confusion and test out
semi- formed ideas, and comfortable disagreeing respectfully.
Building trust
How will you coach your students?5
How will you coach your students?5
Initial icebreaker to share personal context and find commonalities
Discuss, model and feedback on netiquette and appropriate ways
to show social presence - personality and mood
Restrained presence – allow them space to explain and summarise
Questioning – prompt them to explain / clarify / explore
ideas
Trust-building exercise if tacking difficult/controversial topic
Discuss , model and feedback on how to challenge ideas
respectfully
How will you prepare/coach your students?4 5
Intellectual
Preparation
Coaching
Marking rubric
General training in
discussion skills
Guidance
Clear task
instructions
Ice-breaker
Model appropriate
social presence
Model appropriate
constructive criticism
Trust-building exerciseRestrained presence
Social
Examples of posts
Checklist
Collaborative
activity
Questioning
What kind of support will you offer?
Looking over the list of possible student
support, which do you think are priorities?
How easy do you think each would be to offer?
Pick out which would be a good…
Quick win Next step Long-term
investment
Teacher’s roles?
intellectual
managerial technical
social
Too much to take on? Who else might
help?
Teacher’s roles?
intellectual
managerial technical
social
Too much to take on? Who else might
help?
Instructional designer
or learning technologist
help plan aims
and tasks?
Course administrator or
learning technologist
help with student’s
technical problems?
Marijke De Smet
Ghent University, Belgium
Student tutors
De Smet, M., Van Keer, H., De Wever, B., & Valcke, M. (2010). Studying thought
processes of online peer tutors through stimulated-recall interviews. Higher
Education, 59( 5), 645-661.
Hilde Van Keer
Ghent University, Belgium
Bram De Wever
Ghent University, Belgium
Martin Valcke
Ghent University, Belgium
Case
Study
?
Student tutors
De Smet, M., Van Keer, H., De Wever, B., & Valcke, M. (2010). Studying thought
processes of online peer tutors through stimulated-recall interviews. Higher
Education, 59( 5), 645-661.
Case
Study
Over 300 1st-year educational sciences students take the Instructional
Sciences course at Ghent University. The course leaders trained 4th-
year educational sciences students to facilitate online discussions for
the beginner students, for which they earn credit on their own course.
As part of her PhD, Marijke studied how the student tutors interacted
with the 1st year students and how they felt about their tutoring
experience.
Each tutor was interviewed about the two discussions they led, and
asked to keep a daily diary to reflect on their experiences and submit a
report at the end. Marijke and colleagues analysed diaries of 56 tutors
and 45 interviews transcripts.
Student tutors
De Smet, M., Van Keer, H., De Wever, B., & Valcke, M. (2010). Studying thought
processes of online peer tutors through stimulated-recall interviews. Higher
Education, 59( 5), 645-661.
Case
Study
Support/training for the student tutors:
 previous experience learning in discussion groups
 3 hours initial training and a manual
 worked in pairs – took turns facilitating groups of 12-14 students
 supervision group every 2 weeks (4 in total)
The tutors found the training helpful – they felt that both the
preparatory workshop and the ongoing supervision groups were
vital.
Student tutors
De Smet, M., Van Keer, H., De Wever, B., & Valcke, M. (2010). Studying thought
processes of online peer tutors through stimulated-recall interviews. Higher
Education, 59( 5), 645-661.
Case
Study
A lot of the tutors found the experience challenging despite all the
support provided, and their own interest in educational sciences or
teaching.
Typical concerns:
 Intervene or let discussion flow?
 Push more critical thinking? Or just be encouraging?
 Might their comments be misinterpreted?
 Uncomfortable in teacher role
 Unconfident in knowledge of the topic
These concerns are probably similar to any new tutor’s concerns. But
this may suggest peer tutoring is too challenging for typical
undergraduates.
@leonie_learning
Planning and facilitating for good quality discussion
1 Decide on the purpose of your discussion – it should feel useful/vital to the
students
2 Pick a format that suits your purpose
3 Decide on extra incentives to motivate students (if needed)
4 Prepare your students!
• clear expectations for how long to spend and how much to contribute
• guidance and examples on what makes a good post in this subject
• general netiquette
• longer-term: consider preparatory activity / sessions
• ice-breaker activity to support social presence/relations
5 Coach your students intellectually and socially
• model/praise/feedback to encourage high quality thinking & interactions
• longer-term: train others to help with the coaching!
Questions and feedback?
Please send your thoughts to leonie.sloman@kcl.ac.uk or tweet @leonie_learning
1 Do learners really need so much preparation and
support to discuss well?
2 Have you tried using undergraduates as peer
tutors?
3 Do you have any other strategies for very large
groups?
Icons made by Freepik from www.flatiron.com
These slides were developed from
 2012 assessed MA assignment for ‘Technology beyond the
classroom’ module led by Martin Oliver, London Knowledge Lab
(now Institute of Education, University College London)
 2016 discussion for M25 Learning Technologists Reading
Group established by Leonard Houx and Mira Vogel, and
presentation to M25 Learning Technology Group
 2017-19 workshops for:
Learning at City Conference, City, University of London
King’s Academy of Educators, King’s College London
E-Pedagogy module, MA in Clinical Education, King’s College
London

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Here are some examples of role play discussion tasks by discipline:- In history, learners could take on the roles of different historical figures and debate an event from their perspectives. - In literature, learners could analyze a text from the viewpoint of different characters.- In science, learners could take on the roles of scientists and debate theories, experiments or findings. - In business, learners could simulate business meetings, negotiations or case studies from the roles of stakeholders.- In law, learners could debate a legal case from the roles of prosecution, defense and judge.- In politics, learners could simulate political debates or crisis scenarios from the roles of politicians, advisors and constituents

  • 1. Online Discussion Groups Planning and facilitating for good quality discussion @leonie_learning Image based on ‘Life on the Wire’ by Karunakar Rayker (2007)
  • 2. Online Discussion Groups 1 Why include a group discussion in a course? 2 What discussion format or task best suits your purpose? 3 How will you motivate your students to contribute? 4 How will you prepare your students? 5 How will you coach your students?
  • 3. Leonie Sloman Instructional Design Manager King’s Online Icons made by Freepik from www.flatiron.com @leonie_learning leonie.sloman@kcl.ac.uk www.slideshare.net/LeonieSloman
  • 4. Icons made by Freepik from www.flatiron.com Cognitive psychology & physiology HE textbook publishing Educational psychology & learning technology Instructional design for online courses About me
  • 5. Icons made by Freepik from www.flatiron.com These slides were developed from  2012 assessed MA assignment for ‘Technology beyond the classroom’ module led by Martin Oliver, London Knowledge Lab (now Institute of Education, University College London)  2016 discussion for M25 LearningTechnologists Reading Group established by Leonard Houx and MiraVogel, and presentation to M25 LearningTechnology Group  2017-19 workshops for: Learning at City Conference, City, University of London King’s Academy of Educators, King’sCollege London E-Pedagogy module, MA in Clinical Education, King’sCollege London
  • 6. 1. Why include group discussion in a course?
  • 7. Why are you interested in including discussion in your teaching? What benefits do you hope for? 1 Why include group discussion in a course?
  • 8. Why include group discussion in a course?1 Learners may find it more motivating to work with others. Particularly on online-only courses, where they might be feeling isolated. But some dislike it – how to support introverts? Motivation?
  • 9. Why include group discussion in a course?1  articulation/explanation in own words  exposure to different viewpoints  theory applied to varied/personal contexts  feedback - as well as direct feedback, can: (a) witness peers’ feedback from teacher (b) receive feedback from peers Conceptual learning
  • 10. Why include group discussion in a course?1  Valuable in their own right  Support better quality discussions in future But these skills may need to be taught directly – don’t just expect them to emerge from group work Communication & argumentation skills
  • 11. 1 Why include group discussion in a course? Start with a clear idea of why to include discussion in teaching and what benefits are a Motivation? Conceptual learning:  articulation/explanation in own words  exposure to different viewpoints  theory applied to varied/personal contexts  feedback Communication & argumentation skills? Asterhan, C.S., & Schwarz, B.B. (2016). Argumentation for Learning: Well- Trodden Paths and Unexplored Territories. Educational Psychologist, 51(2), 164-187.
  • 13. Robert Heckman Syracuse University, Hala Annabi University of Washington Online vs face-to-face discussion Heckman, R., & Annabi, H. (2005). A content analytic comparison of learning processes in online and face‐to‐face case study discussions. Journal of Computer‐Mediated Communication, 10 (2), 00- Case Study
  • 14. Online vs face-to-face discussion Robert taught a case-based Information Management course to 120 senior undergraduates at Syracuse University. He led facilitated discussions with four groups of about 30 students - each group discussed two cases: one in a face-to-face (f2f) class and one in an online discussion forum over a period of one week. He tried to structure both the online and face-to-face discussions as similarly as possible. Hala then analysed and compared the discussion transcripts, coding them according to a framework based partly on the ‘Practical Inquiry' model (explained on Slide 20). Case Study Heckman, R., &Annabi, H. (2005). A content analytic comparison of learning processes in online and face‐to‐face case study discussions. Journal of Computer‐MediatedCommunication, 10 (2), 00-00.
  • 15. Online vs face-to-face discussion Face-to-face More contributions (av 5) Shorter contributions (av 30 words) Case Study Online Fewer contributions (av 2) Longer contributions (av 100 words) i.e. more words overall (200) Heckman, R., & Annabi, H. (2005). A content analytic comparison of learning processes in online and face‐to‐face case study discussions. Journal of Computer‐Mediated Communication, 10 (2), 00-00.
  • 16. Online vs face-to-face discussion Face-to-face Informal language Safer environment to try out formed ideas? More exploration & factual detail Case Study Online Formal, passive language Space to try practice formal language required in assignments? More analysis Heckman, R., & Annabi, H. (2005). A content analytic comparison of learning processes in online and face‐to‐face case study discussions. Journal of Computer‐Mediated Communication, 10 (2), 00-00.
  • 17. Face-to-face Back and forth discussion ~50% teacher contributions Online vs face-to-face discussionCase Study Heckman, R., & Annabi, H. (2005). A content analytic comparison of learning processes in online and face‐to‐face case study discussions. Journal of Computer‐Mediated Communication, 10 (2), 00-00. Online Students took on more ‘teacher processes, e.g. direct instruction, confirming understanding and asking questions. Teacher able to withdraw to 15% But many posts didn’t receive any responsesS S S T T T T T S S T S SS S S S T S T S S S S S S
  • 18. Online and face-to-face? Better nonverbal communication & group cohesion Time for preparation – more analysis, reflection & critical thinking Flexible time & place No technology needed Searchable archive Teacher less dominant Repeated exposure through the week Simpler time commitment More informal / experimental? Online and face-to-face discussions complement each other and may suit different people. Face-to-face Dyslexia / English as second language –quicker than reading & writing Online More equal participation – especially shy/introverted students Schindler, L. A., & Burkholder, G. J. (2014). Instructional design and facilitation approaches that promote critical thinking in asynchronous online discussions: A review of the literature. Higher Learning Research Communications, 4(4), 11. Hammond, M. (2005). A review of recent papers on online discussion in teaching and learning in higher
  • 19. Online and face-to-face Mon: STARTERS Identify important insights Identify difficult / confusing / "murky“ aspects Identify questions raised Tues: SEMINAR Fri: INTEGRATORS Synthesize discussion Raise own questions Wed: RESPONDERS Respond to starter’s ideas Raise own questions Persell, C. H. (2004). Focused online discussions, moments of difficulty, and student understanding. Social Science Computer Review 22 (2), 197-209. An example of how to combine both (based around weekly readings):
  • 20. Triggers Exploration Integration Resolution Practical Inquiry model What is good quality discussion? A lot of the literature analyses discussion contributions in terms of the Practical Inquiry model: Learners consider or test out how well the solutions apply in the real world. Learners become aware of a problem or express confusion over an idea. Learners share personal opinions and examples; they might draw conclusions, make suggestions or contradict each other, all without substantial rationale. Learners connect together some of the ideas and examples explored before, and make justified conclusions/critiques. Garrison, D. R., Anderson, T., & Archer, W. (2001). Critical thinking, cognitive presence, and computer conferencing in distance education. American Journal of distance education, 15(1), 7- 23..
  • 21. exploration integration resolution triggers Practical Inquiry model Researchers were disappointed when studies showed students tended to spend around half their time in the exploration phase and often barely reach a resolution. But that accepts the view that all good discussions reach a resolution. You may choose to use a discussion to explore ideas and a different task to integrate them. Triggers Exploration Integration Resolution Experimental studies What is good quality discussion?
  • 22. Practical Inquiry model Triggers Exploration Integration Resolution What is good quality discussion? Other possible models for good quality thinking: apply analyze evaluate create Blooms identify/summarise an issue Washington State University Critical & Integrative Thinking understand consider context & assumptions develop own perspective use sources & evidence integrate diverse perspectives identify conclusions/consequences communicate effectively
  • 23. What is good quality discussion? Which stages of discussion or types of thinking would you like your learners to display? What counts as good quality thinking in the discipline or topic you’re teaching?
  • 24. 2. What discussion format or tasks best suit your purpose?
  • 25. problems / exercises project resolution creation Can use online forums to support small group collaboration on a task, or allow learners to compare approaches to completing a task case study What discussion tasks best suit your purpose?2 Possible tasks / structures Outcome-focused discussions: If your aim is for learners to reach the ‘resolution’ stage (see Practical Inquiry model explained earlier): Aims
  • 26. What discussion tasks best suit your purpose?2 Possible tasks / structures FAQ Q&A share information build community sharing experiences Simpler aims are also valid: sharing links/references  to support each other as learners on this programme  or to share different professional experiences from work/placements Aims
  • 27. case study What discussion tasks best suit your purpose?2 Possible tasks / structures integration summaries role play (generic) questioning apply analyze/ evaluate understand see different perspectives challenge and defend ideas debate role play (by disciplines) Cognitive-focused discussions: Discussion directly driving learning – building conceptual knowledge. Aims
  • 28. Role play By discipline: Assigning professional roles to help learners engage with a case study from different perspectives.
  • 29. Role play Wise, A. F., Saghafian, M., & Padmanabhan, P. (2012). Towards more precise design guidance: Specifying and testing the functions of assigned student roles in online discussions. Educational Technology Research and Development, 60(1), 55-82. starter devil’s advocate elaborator questioner summariser new ideas evidence Generic: Assigning conversational roles – typically swapping each week Does every student benefit or just those with key responsibilities? e.g. the summariser, or the one who brings in the evidence. Eg.s Alyssa Wise and colleagues reviewed the kind of roles used in 8 other studies and came up with 10 roles which they assigned out to students on an educational technology course. Students rotated through the different roles, and found the starter and devil’s advocate roles most effective.
  • 30. Role play Claim I think…. Idea How about…? Explanation Because… Question But what if…? Comment I agree… Scheuer, O., Loll, F., Pinkwart, N., & McLaren, B. M. (2010). Computer-supported argumentation: A review of the state of the art. International Journal of Computer-Supported Collaborative Learning, 5(1), 43-102. Could encourage students to play any conversational role . Some software packages prompt learners to decide what kind of contribution they're making. E.g. Digalo: shape represents role ,and colour represents agreement/disagreement. Information But what about when… Argument Yes, because…
  • 31. Because putting an idea into your own words and explaining it to a peer helps you understand and remember material. What discussion tasks best suit your purpose?2 understand Cognitive-focus: building conceptual knowledge summaries explaining questioning Why are these tasks recommended to build understanding?
  • 32. What discussion tasks best suit your purpose?2 Cognitive-focus: building conceptual knowledge For more complex subject matter, it helps to compare and try to resolve different viewpoints or theories. This requires a ‘juicy’ discussion topic or an open problem, and learners may need some coaching and prompting to argue in a productive way. Complex conceptual understanding compare challenge resolve disagreement role play (by disciplines) dilemma express ideas in own words Simple conceptual understanding Asterhan, C.S., & Schwarz, B.B. (2016). Argumentation for Learning: Well- Trodden Paths and Unexplored Territories. Educational Psychologist, 51(2), 164- 187. summaries explaining questioning
  • 33. What discussion tasks best suit your purpose?2 Both deliberative and competitive discussions help promote critical thinking, but deliberative (collaborative) tasks are better for building conceptual knowledge. In competitive discussion, the aim is to prove the other side wrong. Learning is limited if people are reluctant to express more tentative ideas, or ignore others’ critiques of their own ideas. In deliberative discussion, the emphasis is on exploring the strengths and weaknesses of all ideas, regardless of who put them forward. Deliberative argument comparing challenging resolving disagreement convincing discrediting debate role play (by disciplines) dilemma Competitive argument Asterhan, C.S., & Schwarz, B.B. (2016). Argumentation for Learning: Well- Trodden Paths and Unexplored Territories. Educational Psychologist, 51(2), 164-
  • 34. project resolution creation case study What discussion tasks best suit your purpose?2 Possible tasks / structures FAQ Q&Ashare information build community sharing experiences integration summaries role play (generic) questioning apply analyze/ evaluate understand see different perspectives challenge and defend ideas debate role play (by disciplines) Cognitive- focus problems / exercises Aims Outcome-focus
  • 35. Which formats or tasks will you try? Looking over the list of suggested formats, how easy do you think each would be to try out? Pick out which would be a good… Quick win Next step Long-term investment
  • 36. 3. How will you motivate your students to contribute?
  • 37. How will you motivate students to contribute?3 Will you assess? Mark for contribution quality? Flat participation mark?
  • 38. How will you motivate students to contribute?3 VALUE Should I do this? Assessment / penalty extrinsic value intrinsic value PURPOSE e.g. practising assessed skills or assignments Assessment : risk of strategic contributions? e.g. aiming to make a point before others, or waiting to the end to summarise and elaborate on others' ideas. Participation mark: risk of superficial hoop-jumping contributions? Purpose that clearly relates to the course aims, e.g. • practice task, skills or language expected in the course or for an exam/marked assignment • receive and share feedback on each other's project plans. Which is the best incentive for your learners?
  • 39. What would best motivate your students? Will they participate without an assessment? What is the intrinsic value of the task? 3 How will you motivate students to contribute?
  • 40. Sue Stearns Eastern Washington University Motivating students to read online discussions Stearns, S.A. (2017). Student responsible learning: Getting students to read online discussions. College Teaching, 65(2), 69-78. Case Study
  • 41. Motivating students to read online discussions Stearns, S.A. (2017). Student responsible learning: Getting students to read online discussions. College Teaching, 65(2), 69-78. Case Study Sue teaches a senior undergraduate course in communication studies with two face-to-face seminars and one online discussion a week. Online discussion task: Read set article Post Respond to 2 other posts  link article’s scenario to relevant theory  predict or evaluate the outcome  justify their thinking
  • 42. Motivating students to read online discussions Stearns, S.A. (2017). Student responsible learning: Getting students to read online discussions. College Teaching, 65(2), 69-78. Case Study Sue was impressed by the quality of students posts, but only 1 or 2 out of 25 read the majority of their classmates’ posts. Most just read the two required. Her solution was to set an extended, graded task instead of the 2 responses:Read all posts & identify 3 themes 1 2 2 label theme explain theme provide 2 example quotes X 3themes
  • 43. Sue found her time reading and grading their posts (2 hrs) still took less than facilitating one face-to-face seminar (3 hrs). Motivating students to read online discussions Stearns, S.A. (2017). Student responsible learning: Getting students to read online discussions. CollegeTeaching, 65(2), 69-78. Case Study Full task timetable Article available Post Read all posts and identify 3 themes Wed pm Fri 5pm Sun 11pm Mon amThemes graded Sue’s work 90 mins 30 mins
  • 44. Motivating students to read online discussions Stearns, S.A. (2017). Student responsible learning: Getting students to read online discussions. College Teaching, 65(2), 69-78. Case Study Student outcomes and perceptions: Students read 75-85% of available posts 87% recommended continuing the task Student survey asking what they'd learned from the assignment – they commonly said it was helpful: - to see different perspectives - when other posts clarified their own confusions - when peers applied the themes to additional contexts
  • 45. Motivation VALUE CONFIDENCE Should I do this? Can I do this? X Confidence or ‘self-efficacy’ comes from: • good preparation • opportunities to practice • feedback/coaching…
  • 46. 4. How will you prepare your students?
  • 47. 4 How will you prepare your student? Set clear expectations : How many posts/responses should they write? How long should posts be? By when should they post? How long should they spend on this?
  • 48. Alyssa Friend Wise Simon Fraser University, British (now New York University) Jennifer Speer Simon Fraser University, British Columbia (now Prophix Software, Ontario) Time spent on discussion forums Wise, A. F., Speer, J., Marbouti, F., & Hsiao, Y. T. (2013). Broadening the notion of participation in online discussions: examining patterns in learners’ online listening behaviors. Instructional Science, 41 (2), 323-343. Farshid Marbouti Simon Fraser University, British Columbia (now San Jose State University, California) Ying-Ting (Tricia) Hsiao Simon Fraser University, British Columbia (now Exosite, Taiwan) Case Study
  • 49. Time spent on discussion forumsCase Study It’s typical to ask students to write one or two posts a week. What does that mean in terms of their time? Alyssa led a research team that analysed the behaviour of 95 undergraduates studying organisational behaviour. Students had participate in 3 online discussions in groups of 10-12, discussing a challenge that related to the theory covered that week. The one week each and students were encouraged to post more than While many other studies focus on analysing the posts that Alyssa's team was interested in the students’ reading behaviour – call online ‘listening’. They found that student behaviour fell into 3 main clusters… Wise, A. F., Speer, J., Marbouti, F., & Hsiao, Y. T. (2013). Broadening the notion of participation in online discussions: examining patterns in learners’ online listening behaviors. Instructional Science, 41 (2), 323-343.
  • 50. Time spent on discussion forumsCase Study Typical students (50%)  Spent 25 min writing 2 posts (x190  Also spent 1hr40 reading 20 posts!  And scanned 15 posts They logged in maybe 3-6 times a half hour sessions. Note that group size is important – 10 to 12 students in a group could overwhelming number of posts to Wise, A. F., Speer, J., Marbouti, F., & Hsiao, Y. T. (2013). Broadening the notion of participation in online discussions: examining patterns in learners’ online listening behaviors. Instructional Science, 41 (2), 323-343.
  • 51. Time spent on discussion forumsCase Study ‘Superficial listeners ‘(30%)  Spent 20 min writing 1 or 2 posts (x210  Spent 1 hour reading 20 posts  And scanned 25 posts These students logged in more often, maybe times a week, but only for 10-15 min They wrote posts of a similar length to the students, but didn’t always write two. Is the ‘superficial’ label fair or are they more strategic? They opened more posts than typical students, and read as many – might be faster readers? Their grades weren’t Wise, A. F., Speer, J., Marbouti, F., & Hsiao, Y. T. (2013). Broadening the notion of participation in online discussions: examining patterns in learners’ online listening behaviors. Instructional Science, 41 (2), 323-343.
  • 52. Time spent on discussion forumsCase Study ‘Broad listeners’ - or super-swots! (20%)  Spent 45 min writing 3 posts (x180  Spent over 4 hrs reading 55 posts  And scanned 55 posts – i.e. scanned They'd often write an extra post. They logged in daily, but tended to at the end of the week, making sure every post. They also reviewed their own posts times (others reviewed each once) – were comparing their posts to others? Wise, A. F., Speer, J., Marbouti, F., & Hsiao, Y. T. (2013). Broadening the notion of participation in online discussions: examining patterns in learners’ online listening behaviors. Instructional Science, 41 (2), 323-343.
  • 53. Time spent on discussion forumsCase Study Typical students (50%) 30 min writing 2 posts 2 hr reading 20 posts ‘Superficial listeners’ / strategic students (30%) 20 min writing 1or2 posts 1 hr reading 20 posts ‘Broad listeners’ / conscientious students (20%)45 min writing 3 posts 4 hr reading 55 posts If students have to write one or two posts a week, they may spend 1 to 5 hours on the task if they read other students’ posts too. Wise, A. F., Speer, J., Marbouti, F., & Hsiao, Y. T. (2013). Broadening the notion of participation in online discussions: examining patterns in learners’ online listening behaviors. Instructional Science, 41 (2), 323-343.
  • 54. How will you prepare your students? Set clear expectations : How many posts/responses should they write? How long should posts be? By when should they post? (early deadline allows for more responses) How long should they spend on this? What makes a good post? 4
  • 55. How will you prepare your students? Think back to your discussion aims and task – what kind of posts would count as ‘good’? What kind of writing is unacceptable, or not quite good enough? 4
  • 56. Good posts: example guidelines 1. Writing style: • Keep to one point per message • Keep messages short • Keep the discussion informal 2. Quality of posts: Support your arguments with evidence, e.g. established theories, empirical data, thought experiments, etc. 3. Interaction: • Comment on at least two other groups' posting • You must always reply to comments to your posts • If no one answers your posting, you can send invitations to three students for responses • Build on existing ideas by quoting and paraphrasing other people’s messages • If you have nothing more to add, wrap it up nicely with a concise summary 4. Constructive discussion: • Be generous with compliments and encouragement • It's also OK to disagree; try playing devil's advocate sometimes. • Questions can be valuable contributions. 5. Risk-taking: This is a space to try out new ideas and share any confusion, struggles or ignorance. Wang, Y. M., & Chen, D. T. (2010). Promoting spontaneous facilitation in online discussions: designing object and ground rules. Educational Media International, 47(3),
  • 57. Good posts: example rubric Criteria A (90-100%) Outstanding B (80-89%) Proficient C (70-79%) Basic D/F (0-69%) Below expectations Critical thinking Clear and logical statements Shows insight, and engages in analysis Refutes bias Substantial information Thought, insight, and analysis has taken place Detects bias Generally competent Information is thin and commonplace Rudimentary and superficial No analysis/insight displayed Confusing Lacks explanation of reasoning Evidence/ Argument construction Uses reliable evidence when constructing arguments Uses reliable evidence, but may be out of context or unrelated Uses some evidence although it may not be sufficient to support the argument Uses no evidence or unreliable, biased, or misleading evidence Uniqueness New ideas or examples Connections made with depth and detail New ideas or connections Lacks depth and/or detail Few, if any new ideas or connections Rehash or summarize other postings no new ideas Simply stating “I agree with …” without providing a solid explanation that offers new ideas Timeliness See link below for full rubric Grammar & style Regis University, Colorado: discussion board guidelines for Health Care Ethics course
  • 58. Good posts 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Handouts:  Explicit guidelines or rubrics (especially if assessing contributions)  Examples of good and ‘nearly good’ posts  But beware overloading students with too much material to read at the start of the course – a brief checklist might be enough
  • 59. Good posts Handouts: guidelines/rubrics/examples/checklist Collaborative activity for students to create their own guidelines 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
  • 60. Good posts 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Handouts: guidelines/rubrics/examples/checklist Collaborative activity to create own guidelines - General skills training: critical thinking, constructive argument etc. – May be worth investing in generic training if whole faculty plan to use discussion throughout a course Ongoing coaching & feedback – typically skills develop gradually during the course with the facilitator’s help
  • 61. How will you prepare your students? Set clear expectations : How many posts/responses should they write? How long should posts be? By when should they post? (early deadline allows for more responses) How long should they spend on this? What makes a good post?  provide guidance and examples or get students to create some  provide training or coaching to help students develop discussion skills 4
  • 62. 5. How will you coach your students?
  • 63. ‘Restrained’ presence How will you coach your students? Students often look to the teacher for the ‘right answer’. Take a step back to allow students the space to answer each others' questions and take intellectual risks, without feeling too closely monitored. 5
  • 64. How will you coach your students? Most advice is adapted from general small-group teaching: 5  Use questions to prompt students to explain their thinking and challenge each others' thinking, modelling how to do this politely.  Try to direct their attention to the important aspects of the problem or key concepts, rather than outright explaining or summarising for them.  Push for further detail in their explanations, and clarifications. Webb, N.M. (2009). The teacher's role in promoting collaborative dialogue in the classroom. British Journal of Educational Facilitation skills
  • 65. How will you coach your students? This is a systematic approach to promote critical thinking. There are lots of resources available online that explain it. Example questions are often grouped by the following purposes:  clarify thinking  probe underlying assumptions  explore reasons/evidence  explore alternative perspectives  consider implications  question the questions 5 Socratic questioning
  • 66. Social presence Social presence is a popular concept, but researchers often use it in different ways. 1. Conveying your personality and mood via text 2. Interpreting others’ attempts to do the same Kehrwald, B. (2008). Understanding social presence in text‐based online learning environments. Distance Education, 29(1), 89-106. Ben Kehrwald explains it as a student’s ability to demonstrate that they are a real person with personality, feelings and context – and engaged or available for discussion. There are two skills involved in social presence:
  • 67. Is social presence relevant? The theory grew from concerns that the lack of social cues in online discussion environments makes it hard to view other learners as real people. No eye contact, no body language, no tone of voice, maybe no photo. MSN chat in 2005:
  • 68. Is social presence relevant? Facebook use in 2016: Approx 33 million Brits (half the population) 0 200 400 600 800 1000 1200 1400 1600 1800 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 Monthly active users on Facebook & Twitter (in millions) Facebook Twitter Sources: Statista.com/eMarketer
  • 69. Is social presence relevant? All school leavers and most older adults are used to expressing themselves in email and text messages. Source: Office for National Statistics 0 20 40 60 80 100 16-24 25-34 35-44 45-54 55-64 65+ Daily computer use by age group (% UK) 2006 vs 2014 2006 2014 Internet use in 2018: 99% of Brits aged 16-44 (in previous 3 months) 80% of Brits aged 65-75 (in previous 3 months)
  • 70. Is social presence relevant? Social media is now very widespread, so people know how to demonstrate and perceive social presence Many discussion forums support emoticons, images and gifs . Bullying and lack of authenticity online suggest problems with social presence What is appropriate in social media is not the same as in educational settings No! Yes!
  • 71. Is social presence relevant? Do your students already know each other? Have they studied online before? Are they all used to expressing themselves in email and social media? Do they use appropriate language?
  • 72. How will you coach your students?5 Social presence Students may need guidance and coaching to develop these social skills in a similar way to the cognitive skills .  Provide ice-breaker opportunities for students to find out more about each other  Model netiquette, incl. appropriate details to share about oneself, and appropriate ways to express one’s personality and mood online.
  • 73. Netiquette E.g. ‘Discussion Board Netiquette’ (2012) by byuicurdev You could suggest a video for anyone who’s not taken an online course before.
  • 74. Ben Kehrwald University of Southern Queenland (now University of South Australia) Social dynamics supporting collaborative learning Kehrwald, B. (2010). Towards More Productive Online Discussions: Social Presence and the Development of Interpersonal Relations. In L. Shedletsky & J.E. Aitken (eds) Cases on Online Discussion and Interaction: Experiences and Outcomes. New York: Information Science Reference (IGI Global), pp.159-174. Case Study
  • 75. Social dynamics supporting collaborative learningCase Study Kehrwald, B. (2010). Towards More Productive Online Discussions: Social Presence and the Development of Interpersonal Relations. In L. Shedletsky & J.E. Aitken (eds) Cases on Online Discussion and Interaction: Experiences and Outcomes. New York: Information Science Reference (IGI Global), pp.159-174. Ben interviewed 20 postgraduates in Queensland who each had lots of experience studying online in highly collaborative courses. Based on these interviews, he identified six factors that help improve online communication and critical discussion. He argues that students need to establish good social presence for these factors to emerge – and then these factors support good quality discussion.
  • 76. Social dynamics supporting collaborative learningCase Study Kehrwald, B. (2010). Towards More Productive Online Discussions: Social Presence and the Development of Interpersonal Relations. In L. Shedletsky & J.E. Aitken (eds) Cases on Online Discussion and Interaction: Experiences and Outcomes. New York: Information Science Reference (IGI Global), pp.159-174. NB Ben describes how the six factors are interconnected and describes a progression between them in 5 stages, which I’ve simplified into 3 stages: Stage 1 / short term commonality respect Stage 3 / longer term interdependence rapport / group cohesion Stage 2 / medium term safety trust
  • 77. Social dynamics supporting collaborative learningCase Study Kehrwald, B. (2010). Towards More Productive Online Discussions: Social Presence and the Development of Interpersonal Relations. In L. Shedletsky & J.E. Aitken (eds) Cases on Online Discussion and Interaction: Experiences and Outcomes. New York: Information Science Reference (IGI Global), pp.159-174. People feel more motivated to communicate with group members they perceive as being similar to themselves or who they admire.  Similar background or interests sparks rapport.  Shared aims for studying helped group cohesion.  Similar professional/personal backgrounds made people more confident interpreting others' posts or sharing examples from their own context. Respect is particularly important if there is nothing obvious in common, and no natural rapport. Stage 1 / short term commonality respect
  • 78. Social dynamics supporting collaborative learningCase Study Kehrwald, B. (2010). Towards More Productive Online Discussions: Social Presence and the Development of Interpersonal Relations. In L. Shedletsky & J.E. Aitken (eds) Cases on Online Discussion and Interaction: Experiences and Outcomes. New York: Information Science Reference (IGI Global), pp.159-174. Stage 2 / medium term safety trust The ongoing social climate should make members feel safe enough to take intellectual risks (ask questions, admit confusion, test ideas) and engage in more critical discussion – tolerating disagreement. Safety/trust also allows more open personal disclosure – of anxieties about learning or of personal context, helping build more commonality and rapport.
  • 79. Social dynamics supporting collaborative learningCase Study Kehrwald, B. (2010). Towards More Productive Online Discussions: Social Presence and the Development of Interpersonal Relations. In L. Shedletsky & J.E. Aitken (eds) Cases on Online Discussion and Interaction: Experiences and Outcomes. New York: Information Science Reference (IGI Global), pp.159-174. Stage 3/ long term Moving from discussion to collaboration (agreeing shared meanings or creating a joint product). This requires good rapport/group cohesion. It also requires interdependence - relying on and valuing each other's contributions.interdependence rapport / group cohesion
  • 80. How will you coach your students?5 Ice-breakers In light of Ben’s theory, an ice-breaker is an opportunity to help students discover their points of commonality or explore their differences. You might ask them to share something about themselves they're proud of to help spark respect.
  • 81. Consider a trust-building exercise after a few weeks if tackling difficult or controversial topics. You might ask students to share what they’ve found most difficult about the course so far and help another person with a topic they’ve found difficult. The aim is students feel safe to admit confusion and test out semi- formed ideas, and comfortable disagreeing respectfully. Building trust How will you coach your students?5
  • 82. How will you coach your students?5 Initial icebreaker to share personal context and find commonalities Discuss, model and feedback on netiquette and appropriate ways to show social presence - personality and mood Restrained presence – allow them space to explain and summarise Questioning – prompt them to explain / clarify / explore ideas Trust-building exercise if tacking difficult/controversial topic Discuss , model and feedback on how to challenge ideas respectfully
  • 83. How will you prepare/coach your students?4 5 Intellectual Preparation Coaching Marking rubric General training in discussion skills Guidance Clear task instructions Ice-breaker Model appropriate social presence Model appropriate constructive criticism Trust-building exerciseRestrained presence Social Examples of posts Checklist Collaborative activity Questioning
  • 84. What kind of support will you offer? Looking over the list of possible student support, which do you think are priorities? How easy do you think each would be to offer? Pick out which would be a good… Quick win Next step Long-term investment
  • 86. Teacher’s roles? intellectual managerial technical social Too much to take on? Who else might help? Instructional designer or learning technologist help plan aims and tasks? Course administrator or learning technologist help with student’s technical problems?
  • 87. Marijke De Smet Ghent University, Belgium Student tutors De Smet, M., Van Keer, H., De Wever, B., & Valcke, M. (2010). Studying thought processes of online peer tutors through stimulated-recall interviews. Higher Education, 59( 5), 645-661. Hilde Van Keer Ghent University, Belgium Bram De Wever Ghent University, Belgium Martin Valcke Ghent University, Belgium Case Study ?
  • 88. Student tutors De Smet, M., Van Keer, H., De Wever, B., & Valcke, M. (2010). Studying thought processes of online peer tutors through stimulated-recall interviews. Higher Education, 59( 5), 645-661. Case Study Over 300 1st-year educational sciences students take the Instructional Sciences course at Ghent University. The course leaders trained 4th- year educational sciences students to facilitate online discussions for the beginner students, for which they earn credit on their own course. As part of her PhD, Marijke studied how the student tutors interacted with the 1st year students and how they felt about their tutoring experience. Each tutor was interviewed about the two discussions they led, and asked to keep a daily diary to reflect on their experiences and submit a report at the end. Marijke and colleagues analysed diaries of 56 tutors and 45 interviews transcripts.
  • 89. Student tutors De Smet, M., Van Keer, H., De Wever, B., & Valcke, M. (2010). Studying thought processes of online peer tutors through stimulated-recall interviews. Higher Education, 59( 5), 645-661. Case Study Support/training for the student tutors:  previous experience learning in discussion groups  3 hours initial training and a manual  worked in pairs – took turns facilitating groups of 12-14 students  supervision group every 2 weeks (4 in total) The tutors found the training helpful – they felt that both the preparatory workshop and the ongoing supervision groups were vital.
  • 90. Student tutors De Smet, M., Van Keer, H., De Wever, B., & Valcke, M. (2010). Studying thought processes of online peer tutors through stimulated-recall interviews. Higher Education, 59( 5), 645-661. Case Study A lot of the tutors found the experience challenging despite all the support provided, and their own interest in educational sciences or teaching. Typical concerns:  Intervene or let discussion flow?  Push more critical thinking? Or just be encouraging?  Might their comments be misinterpreted?  Uncomfortable in teacher role  Unconfident in knowledge of the topic These concerns are probably similar to any new tutor’s concerns. But this may suggest peer tutoring is too challenging for typical undergraduates.
  • 91. @leonie_learning Planning and facilitating for good quality discussion 1 Decide on the purpose of your discussion – it should feel useful/vital to the students 2 Pick a format that suits your purpose 3 Decide on extra incentives to motivate students (if needed) 4 Prepare your students! • clear expectations for how long to spend and how much to contribute • guidance and examples on what makes a good post in this subject • general netiquette • longer-term: consider preparatory activity / sessions • ice-breaker activity to support social presence/relations 5 Coach your students intellectually and socially • model/praise/feedback to encourage high quality thinking & interactions • longer-term: train others to help with the coaching!
  • 92. Questions and feedback? Please send your thoughts to leonie.sloman@kcl.ac.uk or tweet @leonie_learning 1 Do learners really need so much preparation and support to discuss well? 2 Have you tried using undergraduates as peer tutors? 3 Do you have any other strategies for very large groups?
  • 93. Icons made by Freepik from www.flatiron.com These slides were developed from  2012 assessed MA assignment for ‘Technology beyond the classroom’ module led by Martin Oliver, London Knowledge Lab (now Institute of Education, University College London)  2016 discussion for M25 Learning Technologists Reading Group established by Leonard Houx and Mira Vogel, and presentation to M25 Learning Technology Group  2017-19 workshops for: Learning at City Conference, City, University of London King’s Academy of Educators, King’s College London E-Pedagogy module, MA in Clinical Education, King’s College London

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  6. NB – how many posts were there in each discussion? These students only viewed half available posts – were there 40 posts? Or did they view some posts multiple times? Did they scan and reject or scan and return?
  7. Yu-Mei Wang and Der-Thanq Chen set up an online discussion forum to support 20 graduate students while working on research projects undertaken as part of a course on Training Strategies and Methods at the Nayang Technical University in Singapore. The students had three weeks to work on the research projects, in pairs. They had to post their research topics and preliminary findings in the forum, and comment on each other's postings. Finally, they had to present their research projects to the class and include how they'd used feedback from the forum to improve. Yu-Mei and Der-Thanq deliberately encouraged the students to facilitate the discussion themselves, with minimal intervention and without assigning particular students to the role of facilitator. They achieved this by setting the following ground rules [adapted here]: http://blogs.onlineeducation.touro.edu/15-rules-netiquette-online-discussion-boards/ http://rhchp.regis.edu/hce/hce430/discussionrubric.pdf Netiquet Videos - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwdqQjCfWSc
  8. Netiquet Videos - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwdqQjCfWSc Initial netiquette task
  9. https://www.ons.gov.uk/businessindustryandtrade/itandinternetindustry/bulletins/internetusers/2018 http://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/householdcharacteristics/homeinternetandsocialmediausage/bulletins/internetaccesshouseholdsandindividuals/2014-08-07
  10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwdqQjCfWSc
  11. Roles – based on asking students and tutors
  12. Roles – based on asking students and tutors