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ICNDT Workshop on Harmonisation of Third-party NDT Personnel Certification to ISO9712 and Aligned Standards 17 WCNDT, Shanghai  -  Monday 27 October 2008 9.00 a.m.  -  12.00 noon  Friendship Room
Purpose ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
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Timetable ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Industry view presented by Mike Farley, Doosan Babcock ,[object Object]
Company update ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],Nuclear Thermal Turbine & Generator Desalination Casting & Forging Construction
Globalisation of power plant projects ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],750MW ASC Doosan Babcock boiler – Trimble County E.ON USA
Third party or in-company? ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Duration, Content General theory exam General practical exam Specific theory exam Specific practical exam Employer   Authorisation to work Training Experience Syllabus, Hours Difficulty of questions, Difficulty of Practical Examinations + + Employer has to rely on his knowledge of the syllabus, scope and difficulty of theory and practical examinations Does not care about precise hours of training or experience !! = Background, Education Industry view of third party certification standards Employer specific training In company experience Specific theory exam Specific  practical exam Overall process described in company’s NDT Quality System (Written practice)  checked/audited by external inspection authority (eg ASME, or Notified Body) Sees no significance in the  minor differences between ISO9712, EN 473 and CP106 Very variable
Summary ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Industry view by John Zirnhelt ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Industry view – Ron Nesbitt ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Industry view- David Barnett ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
What do industry, regulators, NDT personnel need from third-party certification schemes? ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
A comparison of standards (highlighting key differences) Presented by  John Thompson
A comparison of standards (highlighting key differences) Presented by  John Thompson (Rev A, 2008-10-26)
Which Standards? ,[object Object],[object Object]
ANSI ASNT CP 106 : 2008 ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
ANSI ASNT CP 106 Definitions ,[object Object],[object Object]
AQB and AEC ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Eligibility ,[object Object]
Examination Content ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
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Re-examination ,[object Object],[object Object]
Partly completed examinations ,[object Object],[object Object]
Code of Ethics ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Conclusions ,[object Object],[object Object]
A comparison of the criteria in the latest revisions of EN 473 and ISO 9712 Presented by  John Thompson
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Normative references ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
EN 473:2008 Bibliography ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
ISO 9712:2005  Bibliography ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
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Renewal ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
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Level 3 recertification ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Level 3 recertification exam ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Introduction of new exams ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Conclusions ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
CEN TC138 initiative ,[object Object]
CEN TC138 initiative ,[object Object]
CEN TC138 initiative ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
How to accomplish this? ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Conclusions ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
List of key issues ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Recommendations ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
Way Forward agreed by all participants ,[object Object],[object Object],[object Object]
ICNDT Guide ,[object Object]
ICNDT Guide ,[object Object],[object Object]
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