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HSBC Holdings plc



Resilience in the
face of uncertainty
MICHAEL GEOGHEGAN

GROUP CHIEF EXECUTIVE
GOLDMAN SACHS CONFERENCE   JUNE 2008
Forward-looking statements


This presentation and subsequent discussion may contain certain forward-
looking statements with respect to the financial condition, results of operations
and business of the Group
These forward-looking statements represent the Group’s expectations or
beliefs concerning future events and involve known and unknown risks and
uncertainty that could cause actual results, performance or events to differ
materially from those expressed or implied in such statements
Additional detailed information concerning important factors that could cause
actual results to differ materially is available in our Annual Report




                                                                                    2
• Market turmoil and outlook


• Resilience of HSBC’s strategy


• Challenges and opportunities ahead




                                       3
Financial market dislocation


• Industry’s recent           US commercial paper: shrinking ABCP market
  propensity for high         USDbn
  leverage                    1,200

                              1,100                                   Asset-backed

• Growth models that
                              1,000
  depended on such
  leverage are now             900
  unsustainable
                               800


                               700                                             Financial


                               600


                               500


                               400
                                  2001   2002   2003   2004   2005   2006     2007         2008
Source: The Federal Reserve


                                                                                                  4
Outlook for rest of 2008


• US will be weak and may move into recession
• Europe will be relatively weak
• Asia and other emerging markets will probably exhibit reasonable growth
• Future risk from demand led inflationary pressure
• Illiquidity in the markets is a continuing concern
• Deleveraging of the financial system
• Tighter regulation




                                                                            5
• Market turmoil and outlook


• Resilience of HSBC’s strategy


• Challenges and opportunities ahead




                                       6
Resilience of HSBC’s strategy
The world’s leading international emerging markets bank



Generating sustainable and profitable growth through strategies that focus on:
• Being positioned in fast-growing markets
• Having good customer relationships based on fairness
• Running efficient operations
• A strong capital base and balance sheet




                                                                                 7
Strategy aligned with trends that will shape the global economy


Align ourselves with three
                                           We will
long-term trends
• Emerging markets growing faster than     • Invest primarily in fast-growing markets
  mature ones
                                           • Use our unique global network for the
• World trade and investment grow faster     benefit of our internationally connected
  than the world economy                     customers in developed markets
• Longevity is increasing                  • Maintain financial strength




                                                                                        8
We are reshaping to focus primarily on fast growing economies


   2004                                2005             2006       2007       Trending towards…


                                                                  37%                40%
         42%                                    42%         47%
                                                      53%
 58%                               58%                                                      60%
                                                                        63%




                                                                                 Mature economies*
                                                                                 Fast growing
                                                                                 economies




 Based on PBT (excluding the gains on
 dilution of interests in associates in 2007)
 * USA, Canada, Japan, Australia, New
 Zealand, EU15, Switzerland, Malta                                                                   9
Business models that define our ‘right to win’


1 Businesses with
  international                  Global Banking                           Private
                                    and Markets                           Banking
  customers where
                                          4,200                           96,000
  Emerging Markets                                             HNWI
                                     customers                            customers
  connectivity is critical                                     (PB)
                                                                                Personal
                                                               Mass
                             Commercial                                         Financial
                                                  Corporates
2 Businesses with                                              Affluent
                                Banking                                         Services
                                                               (PFS)
  local customers             2.8 million                                       125 million
                              customers
  where efficiency                                                              customers
                                             Small & Medium
  can be achieved                                              Mass Market
                                            Sized Businesses   (PFS)
  through global scale                                 (CMB)


3 Products where
  global scale is critical                        Global Product Platforms
                                                  (eg Cards, HSBC Direct)
  to effectiveness:
  efficiency, expertise
  and brand
                                                                                         10
We are defining business models that
determine how we will participate in markets


                                Today
Business models                                                Aspiration
                                (# of countries/territories)


                                                               • Measured increase
Full          Full service
                                • 14 PFS                         mainly in CMB
              bank across all
                                • 20 CMB                       • Sharpened deployment
              Customer
              Groups                                             of business model


              Targeted
Selective
              propositions in   • 31 PFS
                                                               • Realign countries
              specific
                                • 30 CMB                         between selective and
              customer
                                                                 network models
              segments
                                                               • Measured increase in
                                                                 country coverage
Network       Small presence
                                                               • Sharpened deployment
                                • 8 PFS
              complementing
                                                                 of business models
                                • 14 CMB
              the global
              network

                                                                                         11
Intra regional trade growing faster than world trade



                                                                                  New
                                                                                                       Japan
                                                                                           US$54b
                                                                                 Zealand
                                                                                             [2.1]


                                                                                           Australia



                                           US$266b                                                                   US$161b
                                                                                           US$248b




                                                                                                                           Philippines            Indonesia
              Taiwan              Hong Kong
                                                                                           China
                                                                        US$519b                            US$110b
                      US$149b                                                                                                            US$53b
                         [49]                                                                                                            [13.4]
                                                                                                                           Thailand                  Malaysia
              Singapore
                                  Korea

                                                                                                                                         Vietnam
                                                                                           US$247b

Numbers in brackets give the number of times trade flows have increased from 1990-2006
Source: IMF
                                                                                                                                                                12
Signature capital strength


Tier 1 capital ratios (%)                                                                                Basel 2
                                                                                                         Tier 1:
                                                                                                          9.0%
10%                                                                     9.4%                       9.3%
                                            9.0%
               8.9%
9%                                                                                                 0.9
                                                                         1.1
                                             1.1
                1.3
8%

7%

6%

5%
                                                                                                   8.4
                                                                         8.3
4%                                           7.9
                7.6
3%

2%
1%

0%
               2004                         2005                        2006                      2007

      Shareholders' equity, minority interest and preference shares less deductions   Innovative Tier 1 capital
                                                                                                                   13
HSBC’s strong deposit base


US$ billion, 31 December 2007                          % Growth, 2007 vs 2006
1,200                                                  25
                      1,096
                                                                  +22%
                                   982
1,000
                                                       20

 800
                                                       15
                                                                                +13%
 600
                                                       10
 400

                                                        5
 200


   0                                                    0

  Customer Deposits      Customer Loans and Advances


             Money market/CP funding costs below Libor for main Group entities
                                                                                       14
Benefits of diversification by geography and customer group


2007 Profit before tax: US$24.2bn, up 10%
Geography               % share                        % change 2007 vs 2006
                                                                                                                      +57
                         Asia-Pacific (50% )
                                                                                                           +26
36%                      Middle East (5% )
                                                                                                           +26
                  50%    Latin America (9% )
                                                                                                           +23
                         Europe (36% )
                                                               -98
                         North America (0% )
      9%
           5%
                                                       -130     -100     -70   -40        -10         20         50         80

Customer group          % share                        % change 2007 vs 2006
  15%                                                    -38
                24%      Personal Financial Services
                                                                                            +19
6%                       Commercial Banking
                                                                                     +5
                         Global Banking and Markets
                                                                                                +24
                         Private Banking
25%                                                                                       n/a
                         Other
                30%
                                                       -50             -20           10                40               70
                                                                                                                            15
Performance in 1Q 2008



                            1Q 08 key highlights

• Q1 2008 profit ahead of Q1 2007

• Pre-tax profits up in all emerging markets in Asia-Pacific, the Middle East and
  Latin America

• European businesses performed well with the UK retail business increasing
  pre-tax profit

• US profit down as a result of higher consumer finance loan impairments and
  additional write-downs in Global Banking and Markets

• Resilient profitability in Global Banking and Markets

• Group underlying revenue comfortably ahead of 1Q 2007
                                                                                16
• Market turmoil and outlook


• Resilience of HSBC: strategy


• Challenges and opportunities ahead




                                       17
Financial targets




  Return on total shareholders’       Cost efficiency
   equity (through the cycle)              ratio

         15-19%                       48-52%

          Tier 1 capital          Total shareholder return
            (Basel 2)
                                    Above peer
        7.5-9.0%                   group average

                                                             18
Restructuring in the US consumer finance business


Actions taken include:
• Discontinued wholesale and correspondent originated mortgages
• Reduced mortgage services portfolio from US$50bn to US$34bn
• Reduced branch based business

Achievements
• US credit card business remains profitable
• HFC contribution breakeven since beginning of 2006
• Provisions have been increased




                                                                  19
Continue to build out organically and selectively through
acquisition in emerging markets


Strong growth in Rest of Asia           Acquisitions
2005-2007
• Customer loans up by US$32bn to       • KEB outstanding
  US$102bn
                                        • Strategic partnerships in Vietnam
• Incremental operating expense up by     (Techcombank and Bao Viet)
  US$2bn
                                        • Integration of the Chinese Bank and
• Operating profit up by US$1.5bn         rebranded Chailese Credit Card
                                          Services in Taiwan
                                        • 50% joint venture with National Trust
                                          Ltd in China
                                        • IL&FS Investsmart in India, retail
                                          brokerage (agreed to acquire 73%)



                                                                                  20
Mainland China – Expanding the network


• 67 service outlets
• Regional focus: Bohai Rim,
  Yangtze River Delta, Pearl River
  Delta and Western region
                                                                          Shenyang

                                                                         Dalian
                                                          Beijing
                                                           Tianjin
                                                                        Qingdao
                                                    Zhengzhou
                                                     Xi’an                Suzhou
                                                                           Shanghai
                                            Chengdu                      Hangzhou
                                                         Wuhan
                                               Chongqing       Changsha

                                                                        Xiamen
  Cities with branches and sub-branches
                                                                     Dongguan
                                                      Guangzhou
  Cities with branches only                                          Shenzhen
  Branch approved, to be opened this year
  Regions of focus
                                                                                      21
Progress in joining up the company


• HSBC Premier – on the way to achieving 6m target by 2011

• Global links system servicing global inter-connectivity for Commercial Banking
  customers

• Focused alignment in Global Banking Markets resulted in many awards including,
  Best Risk Management House – both globally and in Asia

• Staff engagement

• Monitor customer service

• One HSBC – continue to streamline our underlying processes through development of
  common systems for common products and services on a global basis




                                 Strengthen the brand

                                                                                   22
HSBC: the world’s local bank


     Leading international emerging markets bank

            Widespread international network

          Uniquely international customer base

               Signature financial strength


                      Diversity works
                                                   23

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HSBC Goldman Sachs European Financials Conference in Berlin

  • 1. HSBC Holdings plc Resilience in the face of uncertainty MICHAEL GEOGHEGAN GROUP CHIEF EXECUTIVE GOLDMAN SACHS CONFERENCE JUNE 2008
  • 2. Forward-looking statements This presentation and subsequent discussion may contain certain forward- looking statements with respect to the financial condition, results of operations and business of the Group These forward-looking statements represent the Group’s expectations or beliefs concerning future events and involve known and unknown risks and uncertainty that could cause actual results, performance or events to differ materially from those expressed or implied in such statements Additional detailed information concerning important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially is available in our Annual Report 2
  • 3. • Market turmoil and outlook • Resilience of HSBC’s strategy • Challenges and opportunities ahead 3
  • 4. Financial market dislocation • Industry’s recent US commercial paper: shrinking ABCP market propensity for high USDbn leverage 1,200 1,100 Asset-backed • Growth models that 1,000 depended on such leverage are now 900 unsustainable 800 700 Financial 600 500 400 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 Source: The Federal Reserve 4
  • 5. Outlook for rest of 2008 • US will be weak and may move into recession • Europe will be relatively weak • Asia and other emerging markets will probably exhibit reasonable growth • Future risk from demand led inflationary pressure • Illiquidity in the markets is a continuing concern • Deleveraging of the financial system • Tighter regulation 5
  • 6. • Market turmoil and outlook • Resilience of HSBC’s strategy • Challenges and opportunities ahead 6
  • 7. Resilience of HSBC’s strategy The world’s leading international emerging markets bank Generating sustainable and profitable growth through strategies that focus on: • Being positioned in fast-growing markets • Having good customer relationships based on fairness • Running efficient operations • A strong capital base and balance sheet 7
  • 8. Strategy aligned with trends that will shape the global economy Align ourselves with three We will long-term trends • Emerging markets growing faster than • Invest primarily in fast-growing markets mature ones • Use our unique global network for the • World trade and investment grow faster benefit of our internationally connected than the world economy customers in developed markets • Longevity is increasing • Maintain financial strength 8
  • 9. We are reshaping to focus primarily on fast growing economies 2004 2005 2006 2007 Trending towards… 37% 40% 42% 42% 47% 53% 58% 58% 60% 63% Mature economies* Fast growing economies Based on PBT (excluding the gains on dilution of interests in associates in 2007) * USA, Canada, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, EU15, Switzerland, Malta 9
  • 10. Business models that define our ‘right to win’ 1 Businesses with international Global Banking Private and Markets Banking customers where 4,200 96,000 Emerging Markets HNWI customers customers connectivity is critical (PB) Personal Mass Commercial Financial Corporates 2 Businesses with Affluent Banking Services (PFS) local customers 2.8 million 125 million customers where efficiency customers Small & Medium can be achieved Mass Market Sized Businesses (PFS) through global scale (CMB) 3 Products where global scale is critical Global Product Platforms (eg Cards, HSBC Direct) to effectiveness: efficiency, expertise and brand 10
  • 11. We are defining business models that determine how we will participate in markets Today Business models Aspiration (# of countries/territories) • Measured increase Full Full service • 14 PFS mainly in CMB bank across all • 20 CMB • Sharpened deployment Customer Groups of business model Targeted Selective propositions in • 31 PFS • Realign countries specific • 30 CMB between selective and customer network models segments • Measured increase in country coverage Network Small presence • Sharpened deployment • 8 PFS complementing of business models • 14 CMB the global network 11
  • 12. Intra regional trade growing faster than world trade New Japan US$54b Zealand [2.1] Australia US$266b US$161b US$248b Philippines Indonesia Taiwan Hong Kong China US$519b US$110b US$149b US$53b [49] [13.4] Thailand Malaysia Singapore Korea Vietnam US$247b Numbers in brackets give the number of times trade flows have increased from 1990-2006 Source: IMF 12
  • 13. Signature capital strength Tier 1 capital ratios (%) Basel 2 Tier 1: 9.0% 10% 9.4% 9.3% 9.0% 8.9% 9% 0.9 1.1 1.1 1.3 8% 7% 6% 5% 8.4 8.3 4% 7.9 7.6 3% 2% 1% 0% 2004 2005 2006 2007 Shareholders' equity, minority interest and preference shares less deductions Innovative Tier 1 capital 13
  • 14. HSBC’s strong deposit base US$ billion, 31 December 2007 % Growth, 2007 vs 2006 1,200 25 1,096 +22% 982 1,000 20 800 15 +13% 600 10 400 5 200 0 0 Customer Deposits Customer Loans and Advances Money market/CP funding costs below Libor for main Group entities 14
  • 15. Benefits of diversification by geography and customer group 2007 Profit before tax: US$24.2bn, up 10% Geography % share % change 2007 vs 2006 +57 Asia-Pacific (50% ) +26 36% Middle East (5% ) +26 50% Latin America (9% ) +23 Europe (36% ) -98 North America (0% ) 9% 5% -130 -100 -70 -40 -10 20 50 80 Customer group % share % change 2007 vs 2006 15% -38 24% Personal Financial Services +19 6% Commercial Banking +5 Global Banking and Markets +24 Private Banking 25% n/a Other 30% -50 -20 10 40 70 15
  • 16. Performance in 1Q 2008 1Q 08 key highlights • Q1 2008 profit ahead of Q1 2007 • Pre-tax profits up in all emerging markets in Asia-Pacific, the Middle East and Latin America • European businesses performed well with the UK retail business increasing pre-tax profit • US profit down as a result of higher consumer finance loan impairments and additional write-downs in Global Banking and Markets • Resilient profitability in Global Banking and Markets • Group underlying revenue comfortably ahead of 1Q 2007 16
  • 17. • Market turmoil and outlook • Resilience of HSBC: strategy • Challenges and opportunities ahead 17
  • 18. Financial targets Return on total shareholders’ Cost efficiency equity (through the cycle) ratio 15-19% 48-52% Tier 1 capital Total shareholder return (Basel 2) Above peer 7.5-9.0% group average 18
  • 19. Restructuring in the US consumer finance business Actions taken include: • Discontinued wholesale and correspondent originated mortgages • Reduced mortgage services portfolio from US$50bn to US$34bn • Reduced branch based business Achievements • US credit card business remains profitable • HFC contribution breakeven since beginning of 2006 • Provisions have been increased 19
  • 20. Continue to build out organically and selectively through acquisition in emerging markets Strong growth in Rest of Asia Acquisitions 2005-2007 • Customer loans up by US$32bn to • KEB outstanding US$102bn • Strategic partnerships in Vietnam • Incremental operating expense up by (Techcombank and Bao Viet) US$2bn • Integration of the Chinese Bank and • Operating profit up by US$1.5bn rebranded Chailese Credit Card Services in Taiwan • 50% joint venture with National Trust Ltd in China • IL&FS Investsmart in India, retail brokerage (agreed to acquire 73%) 20
  • 21. Mainland China – Expanding the network • 67 service outlets • Regional focus: Bohai Rim, Yangtze River Delta, Pearl River Delta and Western region Shenyang Dalian Beijing Tianjin Qingdao Zhengzhou Xi’an Suzhou Shanghai Chengdu Hangzhou Wuhan Chongqing Changsha Xiamen Cities with branches and sub-branches Dongguan Guangzhou Cities with branches only Shenzhen Branch approved, to be opened this year Regions of focus 21
  • 22. Progress in joining up the company • HSBC Premier – on the way to achieving 6m target by 2011 • Global links system servicing global inter-connectivity for Commercial Banking customers • Focused alignment in Global Banking Markets resulted in many awards including, Best Risk Management House – both globally and in Asia • Staff engagement • Monitor customer service • One HSBC – continue to streamline our underlying processes through development of common systems for common products and services on a global basis Strengthen the brand 22
  • 23. HSBC: the world’s local bank Leading international emerging markets bank Widespread international network Uniquely international customer base Signature financial strength Diversity works 23