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rnchat:         Tonight is #RNchat - 9pm ET. The role of sexism in the perception of Nursing.
                8/6/2010 15:17


rnchat:         Welcome, friends, to #RNchat. We'll get started in a few, but let's begin with introductions!
                Give 140 of yourself. :)
                8/6/2010 21:00


jtknowles007:   Good evening all. John Knowles here. I'm a student nurse in Indiana. #RNchat
                8/6/2010 21:03


rnchat:         @jtknowles007 Good evening! #RNchat
                8/6/2010 21:04


rnchat:         OK, we'll have one topic tonight - I'll break it into subtopics. Coming up in one minute!
                #RNchat
                8/6/2010 21:06


rnchat:         T1 The role of sexism in the perception of nursing. Do people (consciously/unconsciously)
                still enframe Nursing as a "female" field? #RNchat
                8/6/2010 21:08


joniwatson:     Hola! Joni Watson, Austin, oncology nurse, director of @NurseOEP providing continuing
                nursing education #rnchat
                8/6/2010 21:12


jtknowles007:   KNOCK KNOCK - Hello? Is this thing on? T1 I'd say yes-it is, and will be perceived as a
                female field for quite some time. !fb #RNchat
                8/6/2010 21:13


rnchat:         @joniwatson Hola! We have one topic tonight - I'll break into subtopics if we need to.
                Welcome! #RNchat
                8/6/2010 21:13


joniwatson:     T1 despite our best efforts, I think many still view nursing as a female profession. Proud
                to work alongside my male colleagues, tho #rnchat
                8/6/2010 21:15


suzishepherd:   Sorry I'm late. Suzishepherd (Suzanne Tietjen) Neonatal NP at Children's Hospital of
                Illinois. Post-call & stupid, but present. #rnchat
                8/6/2010 21:15


bobfine:        Lurking a bit tonight #rnchat Hi all.
                8/6/2010 21:16


rnchat:         @suzishepherd Welcome Suzanne! Here's our topic -
                http://twitter.com/RNchat/status/20513165506 #RNchat
                8/6/2010 21:16


jtknowles007:   T1 I know my family supports my decision to be a nurse, but I know several people who
                think I'm aiming low by entering nursing !fb #RNchat
                8/6/2010 21:17


joniwatson:     T1 RWJF has done a fabulous job highlighting male nursing and increasing nursing
                diversity #rnchat
                8/6/2010 21:18


suzishepherd:   Is it sexist of me to notice, but it seems there are more guys in ER and critical care?
#rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:18


jtknowles007:     T1 It's as if they think I should be ashamed to be a man who is also a nurse! !fb #RNchat
                  8/6/2010 21:19


joniwatson:       @suzishepherd lol! Welcome...post-call brain and all. :) #rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:19


rnchat:           @suzishepherd lol - well, I was ICU - but I think that's because I'm a control freak, not a
                  guy ;) #RNchat
                  8/6/2010 21:20


joniwatson:       T1 this topic reminds me of @redhourben in "Meet the Parents" #malenurse #rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:21


jtknowles007:     @suzishepherd - I don't think it's sexist to notice male vs female in a particular area. It
                  becomes sexist (cont) !fb #RNchat
                  8/6/2010 21:22


rnchat:           T1 As an example, are Police strikes perceived differently than Nursing strikes? If so,
                  might sexism partially explain? #RNchat
                  8/6/2010 21:22


jtknowles007:     @suzishepherd when we start to believe only a man or a woman belongs in a particular
                  place. !fb #RNchat
                  8/6/2010 21:22


joniwatson:       @jtknowles007 any clue what specialty you're leaning towards? #rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:23


jtknowles007:     @joniwatson - undecided at this time. I'm keeping my mind open at this point and waiting
                  to see what I find interesting. !fb #RNchat
                  8/6/2010 21:24


holisticnurses:   Working, but i will say male nurses rock! RT @PhilBaumann: Where oh where are the
                  #nurses tonight on #RNchat?
                  8/6/2010 21:25


joniwatson:       @jtknowles007 good plan! #rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:25


joniwatson:       @rnchat hmmm. Police vs. Nursing strikes. I perceive them the same. I have a pretty
                  strong opinion abt public servant strikes anyway #rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:27


suzishepherd:     @jtknowles007 Sorry, didn't read back enough. Got it. Enjoy my male colleagues and try
                  to be inclusive when I write about nurses. #rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:28


rnchat:           @joniwatson ok - then you're fair about it ;) ...still might there be a larger population that
                  reacts differently b/w the two? #rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:29


jtknowles007:     T1 as for the example - here in middle America, cop=man, nurse=woman, and since
                  man=breadwinner it is ok for them to strike !fb #RNchat
                  8/6/2010 21:29
jtknowles007:     @suzishepherd No problem. Obviously I didn't mean you specifically, I meant people's
                  perceptions in general. !fb #RNchat
                  8/6/2010 21:30


joniwatson:       @rnchat ha! Yes. Agree the public likely sees them differently; I do think sexism may play
                  a role in that. #rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:31


suzishepherd:     Lot of NICU parents (young) assume the men are doctors and the women are nurses (so
                  not true). I'd have thought we'd be past that. #rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:32


joniwatson:       T1 and don't forget the media plays a large role in our views of "who" nurses are. I feel a
                  rant coming on....#rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:33


KPNurseRecruit:   @philbaumann I'm sorry I'm unable to tune in--or even lurk tonight. I'm at OVO! #RNchat
                  8/6/2010 21:33


holisticnurses:   RT @joniwatson: T1 and don't forget the media plays a large role in our views of "who"
                  nurses are. I feel a rant coming on....#rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:33


rnchat:           @joniwatson And so, regardless of the inherent ethics of N striking, might then sexism
                  add an extra emotional layer to the debate? #RNchat
                  8/6/2010 21:34


rnchat:           @KPNurseRecruit No worries. Cheers! #RNchat
                  8/6/2010 21:34


joniwatson:       @rnchat definitely. Great point, Phil. #rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:36


rnchat:           T1 What do you think about this claim?: "Modern nursing was forged as a female-
                  dominated profession w/in a male-dominated society." #RNchat
                  8/6/2010 21:41


hoyce:            RT @cerner: Healthcare providers, insurers lay out plans to boost EHR use:
                  http://bit.ly/bmIm0w #HCIT #HCSM #RNchat
                  8/6/2010 21:44


joniwatson:       T1 great ? I must agree with it. Females *really* stood up to make nursing a true
                  profession. #rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:45


joniwatson:       T1 for example, the ANA & most state nsg associations were started by groups of women
                  b4 they even had the right 2 vote. *a-maz-ing* #rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:47


jtknowles007:     @joniwatson T1 RE: ANA & nrsg assocs. hmm...I'd never considered that before. Great
                  point. !fb #RNchat
                  8/6/2010 21:50


rnchat:           RT @joniwatson: T1 for example, the ANA & most state nsg associations were started by
                  groups of women b4 they even had the right 2 vote. *a-maz-ing* #rnchat
                  8/6/2010 21:51
joniwatson:     T1 men have had and continue to have an unquestionable impact within the nsg
                profession. #rnchat
                8/6/2010 21:51


rnchat:         So, what can be done to address any sexism out there? How to raise awareness if some
                of this is latent? #RNchat
                8/6/2010 21:53


suzishepherd:   Are men still being discouraged from some fields? It's been done in the past. #rnchat
                8/6/2010 21:54


jtknowles007:   What can be done to address sexism? Didn't someone mention the media before?
                Changing media stereotypes would do wonders. !fb #RNchat
                8/6/2010 21:55


joniwatson:     I keep going back to it, but I really believe the TV media can help. 5 seconds of
                discussion here, a strong male nurse role there...#rnchat
                8/6/2010 21:57


jtknowles007:   It wouldn't hurt if men would be vocal about their contributions to nrsg and let everyone
                know its ok for a man provide care. !fb #RNchat
                8/6/2010 21:58


joniwatson:     Male nurse bloggers are also helpful, I think. Telling it like it is. In their own voices.
                #rnchat
                8/6/2010 21:58


rnchat:         @suzishepherd I haven't seen much, but once in Nsg school, an instructor said in a quiet
                voice that men shouldn't go into Maternity. #RNchat
                8/6/2010 21:59


rnchat:         @suzishepherd ...I asked her how she felt about male obstetricians. Her answer: "that's
                different". #RNchat
                8/6/2010 22:00


suzishepherd:   @jtknowles007 Lot of residents R surprised at the kind of care MDs provide. Grey's
                Anatomy let them think their work was like ours. #rnchat
                8/6/2010 22:01


joniwatson:     Our society certainly discourages. RT @suzishepherd: Are men still being discouraged
                from some fields? It's been done in the past. #rnchat
                8/6/2010 22:01


rnchat:         Well, this was a small but very cozy group tonight! Let's wrap up in a few. Any final
                thoughts on nursing's perception in 2010? #RNchat
                8/6/2010 22:02


suzishepherd:   People's perceptions are changed when they see us at work OR when we tell our stories.
                #rnchat
                8/6/2010 22:04


rnchat:         RT @suzishepherd: Peoples perceptions are changed when they see us at work OR
                when we tell our stories. #RNchat
                8/6/2010 22:06


joniwatson:     Agreed! RT @suzishepherd: People's perceptions are changed when they see us at work
                OR when we tell our stories. #rnchat
                8/6/2010 22:06
jtknowles007:   Educate the patients: doesn't matter if an RN is a male or female, as long as he/she can
                provide competent, compassionate care. !fb #RNchat
                8/6/2010 22:07


rnchat:         OK, everyone - a great time. I'll revisit this in another chat sometime. Transcript will be up
                later. Thank you!!! #RNchat
                8/6/2010 22:07


joniwatson:     It was fun y'all! Stay cool. #rnchat
                8/6/2010 22:07


jtknowles007:   Good night everyone! !fb #RNchat
                8/6/2010 22:08


rnchat:         @jtknowles007 @joniwatson @suzishepherd Good night! :) #RNchat
                8/6/2010 22:10


Geek2Nurse:     Reading through tonight's #rnchat tweets. Interestingly, I'm a female RN who is often
                mistaken for a doctor.
                8/6/2010 22:50

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RNchat Transcript August 6, 2010

  • 1. rnchat: Tonight is #RNchat - 9pm ET. The role of sexism in the perception of Nursing. 8/6/2010 15:17 rnchat: Welcome, friends, to #RNchat. We'll get started in a few, but let's begin with introductions! Give 140 of yourself. :) 8/6/2010 21:00 jtknowles007: Good evening all. John Knowles here. I'm a student nurse in Indiana. #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:03 rnchat: @jtknowles007 Good evening! #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:04 rnchat: OK, we'll have one topic tonight - I'll break it into subtopics. Coming up in one minute! #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:06 rnchat: T1 The role of sexism in the perception of nursing. Do people (consciously/unconsciously) still enframe Nursing as a "female" field? #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:08 joniwatson: Hola! Joni Watson, Austin, oncology nurse, director of @NurseOEP providing continuing nursing education #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:12 jtknowles007: KNOCK KNOCK - Hello? Is this thing on? T1 I'd say yes-it is, and will be perceived as a female field for quite some time. !fb #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:13 rnchat: @joniwatson Hola! We have one topic tonight - I'll break into subtopics if we need to. Welcome! #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:13 joniwatson: T1 despite our best efforts, I think many still view nursing as a female profession. Proud to work alongside my male colleagues, tho #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:15 suzishepherd: Sorry I'm late. Suzishepherd (Suzanne Tietjen) Neonatal NP at Children's Hospital of Illinois. Post-call & stupid, but present. #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:15 bobfine: Lurking a bit tonight #rnchat Hi all. 8/6/2010 21:16 rnchat: @suzishepherd Welcome Suzanne! Here's our topic - http://twitter.com/RNchat/status/20513165506 #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:16 jtknowles007: T1 I know my family supports my decision to be a nurse, but I know several people who think I'm aiming low by entering nursing !fb #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:17 joniwatson: T1 RWJF has done a fabulous job highlighting male nursing and increasing nursing diversity #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:18 suzishepherd: Is it sexist of me to notice, but it seems there are more guys in ER and critical care?
  • 2. #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:18 jtknowles007: T1 It's as if they think I should be ashamed to be a man who is also a nurse! !fb #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:19 joniwatson: @suzishepherd lol! Welcome...post-call brain and all. :) #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:19 rnchat: @suzishepherd lol - well, I was ICU - but I think that's because I'm a control freak, not a guy ;) #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:20 joniwatson: T1 this topic reminds me of @redhourben in "Meet the Parents" #malenurse #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:21 jtknowles007: @suzishepherd - I don't think it's sexist to notice male vs female in a particular area. It becomes sexist (cont) !fb #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:22 rnchat: T1 As an example, are Police strikes perceived differently than Nursing strikes? If so, might sexism partially explain? #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:22 jtknowles007: @suzishepherd when we start to believe only a man or a woman belongs in a particular place. !fb #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:22 joniwatson: @jtknowles007 any clue what specialty you're leaning towards? #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:23 jtknowles007: @joniwatson - undecided at this time. I'm keeping my mind open at this point and waiting to see what I find interesting. !fb #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:24 holisticnurses: Working, but i will say male nurses rock! RT @PhilBaumann: Where oh where are the #nurses tonight on #RNchat? 8/6/2010 21:25 joniwatson: @jtknowles007 good plan! #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:25 joniwatson: @rnchat hmmm. Police vs. Nursing strikes. I perceive them the same. I have a pretty strong opinion abt public servant strikes anyway #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:27 suzishepherd: @jtknowles007 Sorry, didn't read back enough. Got it. Enjoy my male colleagues and try to be inclusive when I write about nurses. #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:28 rnchat: @joniwatson ok - then you're fair about it ;) ...still might there be a larger population that reacts differently b/w the two? #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:29 jtknowles007: T1 as for the example - here in middle America, cop=man, nurse=woman, and since man=breadwinner it is ok for them to strike !fb #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:29
  • 3. jtknowles007: @suzishepherd No problem. Obviously I didn't mean you specifically, I meant people's perceptions in general. !fb #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:30 joniwatson: @rnchat ha! Yes. Agree the public likely sees them differently; I do think sexism may play a role in that. #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:31 suzishepherd: Lot of NICU parents (young) assume the men are doctors and the women are nurses (so not true). I'd have thought we'd be past that. #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:32 joniwatson: T1 and don't forget the media plays a large role in our views of "who" nurses are. I feel a rant coming on....#rnchat 8/6/2010 21:33 KPNurseRecruit: @philbaumann I'm sorry I'm unable to tune in--or even lurk tonight. I'm at OVO! #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:33 holisticnurses: RT @joniwatson: T1 and don't forget the media plays a large role in our views of "who" nurses are. I feel a rant coming on....#rnchat 8/6/2010 21:33 rnchat: @joniwatson And so, regardless of the inherent ethics of N striking, might then sexism add an extra emotional layer to the debate? #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:34 rnchat: @KPNurseRecruit No worries. Cheers! #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:34 joniwatson: @rnchat definitely. Great point, Phil. #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:36 rnchat: T1 What do you think about this claim?: "Modern nursing was forged as a female- dominated profession w/in a male-dominated society." #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:41 hoyce: RT @cerner: Healthcare providers, insurers lay out plans to boost EHR use: http://bit.ly/bmIm0w #HCIT #HCSM #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:44 joniwatson: T1 great ? I must agree with it. Females *really* stood up to make nursing a true profession. #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:45 joniwatson: T1 for example, the ANA & most state nsg associations were started by groups of women b4 they even had the right 2 vote. *a-maz-ing* #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:47 jtknowles007: @joniwatson T1 RE: ANA & nrsg assocs. hmm...I'd never considered that before. Great point. !fb #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:50 rnchat: RT @joniwatson: T1 for example, the ANA & most state nsg associations were started by groups of women b4 they even had the right 2 vote. *a-maz-ing* #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:51
  • 4. joniwatson: T1 men have had and continue to have an unquestionable impact within the nsg profession. #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:51 rnchat: So, what can be done to address any sexism out there? How to raise awareness if some of this is latent? #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:53 suzishepherd: Are men still being discouraged from some fields? It's been done in the past. #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:54 jtknowles007: What can be done to address sexism? Didn't someone mention the media before? Changing media stereotypes would do wonders. !fb #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:55 joniwatson: I keep going back to it, but I really believe the TV media can help. 5 seconds of discussion here, a strong male nurse role there...#rnchat 8/6/2010 21:57 jtknowles007: It wouldn't hurt if men would be vocal about their contributions to nrsg and let everyone know its ok for a man provide care. !fb #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:58 joniwatson: Male nurse bloggers are also helpful, I think. Telling it like it is. In their own voices. #rnchat 8/6/2010 21:58 rnchat: @suzishepherd I haven't seen much, but once in Nsg school, an instructor said in a quiet voice that men shouldn't go into Maternity. #RNchat 8/6/2010 21:59 rnchat: @suzishepherd ...I asked her how she felt about male obstetricians. Her answer: "that's different". #RNchat 8/6/2010 22:00 suzishepherd: @jtknowles007 Lot of residents R surprised at the kind of care MDs provide. Grey's Anatomy let them think their work was like ours. #rnchat 8/6/2010 22:01 joniwatson: Our society certainly discourages. RT @suzishepherd: Are men still being discouraged from some fields? It's been done in the past. #rnchat 8/6/2010 22:01 rnchat: Well, this was a small but very cozy group tonight! Let's wrap up in a few. Any final thoughts on nursing's perception in 2010? #RNchat 8/6/2010 22:02 suzishepherd: People's perceptions are changed when they see us at work OR when we tell our stories. #rnchat 8/6/2010 22:04 rnchat: RT @suzishepherd: Peoples perceptions are changed when they see us at work OR when we tell our stories. #RNchat 8/6/2010 22:06 joniwatson: Agreed! RT @suzishepherd: People's perceptions are changed when they see us at work OR when we tell our stories. #rnchat 8/6/2010 22:06
  • 5. jtknowles007: Educate the patients: doesn't matter if an RN is a male or female, as long as he/she can provide competent, compassionate care. !fb #RNchat 8/6/2010 22:07 rnchat: OK, everyone - a great time. I'll revisit this in another chat sometime. Transcript will be up later. Thank you!!! #RNchat 8/6/2010 22:07 joniwatson: It was fun y'all! Stay cool. #rnchat 8/6/2010 22:07 jtknowles007: Good night everyone! !fb #RNchat 8/6/2010 22:08 rnchat: @jtknowles007 @joniwatson @suzishepherd Good night! :) #RNchat 8/6/2010 22:10 Geek2Nurse: Reading through tonight's #rnchat tweets. Interestingly, I'm a female RN who is often mistaken for a doctor. 8/6/2010 22:50