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Inventor Models Used
In BIM
Curt Egli
&
Mark Lancaster
Session Objective & Benefits
• Explore how to repurpose your Inventor model
as Revit BIM content in the A/E’s building model
• At the end of this session you will….
– Know how to bring an Inventor model into Revit
– See the steps necessary to convert that model into
usable BIM format
– Gain insights into what Architects and Engineers want
from BIM content
– Understand the advantages of using the best solution
for the task
Creating Content With Autodesk Revit
( Without Inventor )
• Either :
– Start new component, extrude/revolve/sweep, add
connectors, save file, load into A/E’s project, place in
project
• Or :
– Duplicate & rename existing component from Autodesk,
make changes (i.e. use a new profile for a railing for
example), save file, transfer into A/E’s project, place in
project
• Then :
– optionally create a system, tag, confirm item is in the
schedule(s)
Revit Can Create Content for A/Es
• Inventor is not a necessary software when
creating Revit content
• But…. Inventor might save you time
So Why Should You Care?
• If the A/Es can make their own content with
Revit, why not just let them do the work?
• Because it’s WORK! And A/Es have deadlines
just like you
• Because editing content in Revit is an
additional skill set requiring additional training
Revit File Formats
• Project File (.RVT) • Family File (.RFA)
Steps To Convert Inventor Format
To Revit Format
• Open in Inventor
• Simplify the model
• Recognize geometry
– To find segments of model geometry and convert them into a
set of native modeling options included in Revit.
• Add and edit System connectors
• Verify data
• Export
– To .RFA or .ADSK
• (.ADSK can be opened by Revit or AutoCAD MEP)
“Sounds Easy Enough……”
• But here’s where it gets tricky…..
What do all of these elements have in
common?
• Ceilings
• Conduit
• Curtain Systems
• Curtain Wall Mullions
• Duct
• Floors
• Pipe
• Railings
• Ramps
• Roofs
• Stairs
• Structural Columns
• Structural Foundations
• Structural Framing
• Walls
• Etc.
They are Revit System Families
What do all of these elements have in
common?
• Casework
• Door
• Duct Accessory
• Duct Fitting
• Electrical Equipment
• Fire Alarm
• Furniture
• Light Fixture
• Light Switch
• Mechanical Equipment
• Pipe Fitting
• Plumbing Fixtures
• Specialty Equipment
• Sprinkler
• Window
• Etc.
They are Revit Loadable Families
Some Content Is Not “Loadable”……
• System Families:
– Typically prefabricated and/or
constructed onsite
– Many can host Component
elements
– Predefined by Autodesk
– They live in the Revit project file
(.RVT, not an .RFA)
– Can not be created from scratch in
the Family Editor
• Loadable Families:
– Typically installed onsite
– Can be freestanding or hosted by
Host elements
– User-defined families built in the
Family Editor
– They can be loaded into a project
(.RFA)
– They can be created from scratch
Creating A System Family For Use
1. In Inventor, sketch
the end the mullion
3. In the Revit Family
Editor, use the .DWG as
an outline Profile.
2. Export that sketch as
a .DWG
4. In the Revit project
file, use that profile for
your mullion
System Family Usage
• These previous 4 steps may help you get your
content ready for use
• Manufacturer’s that require Revit System Family
components frequently have a back-and-forth design
workflow with the Architect and/or Structural Engineer
– See Curt afterwards to discuss your unique situation
• Demonstration of Architect using your posted System
Family component
(again) Steps To Convert To A Revit
Loadable Family
• Open in Inventor
• Simplify the model
• Recognize geometry
– To find segments of model geometry and convert them into a
set of native modeling options included in Revit.
• Add and edit System connectors
• Verify data
• Export
– To .RFA or .ADSK
• (.ADSK can be opened by Revit or AutoCAD MEP)
Creating A Revit Loadable Family
For Use
• Demonstration
Optionally Add Revit Clearance Lines
For interference detection in the Revit project
1/4 MB4MB
“Simplify” For Smaller Revit File Size
The “Right Amount” Of Detail?
• It depends how it will be used…..
Construction documents? Marketing Material?
The “Right Amount” Of Detail?
• Complex components that don’t lend themselves
to simplification…..
– (where a “box” will not be enough)
So What Does An A/E Hope For?
• Speed and performance from the model
• Ability to schedule and tag model components
• Not having to model it ourselves
• Graphic appropriateness from the content
– not too much detail but not too little for
construction docs
– flexibility – detail levels that can be varied
– choices would be nice for construction docs and
for marketing material renderings
– Lack of color
Upward Compatibility
• Like Inventor, Revit is upward compatible only
– Manufacturer’s attempt to create content (.RFAs) in
old versions of Revit (i.e. Revit 2010) for maximum
market penetration
– The .ADSK format was introduced with the 2010
release of Autodesk products
Time For Additional
Questions & Answers
Thank you!!

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Synergis University 2014-Autodesk Inventor for BIM

  • 1. Inventor Models Used In BIM Curt Egli & Mark Lancaster
  • 2. Session Objective & Benefits • Explore how to repurpose your Inventor model as Revit BIM content in the A/E’s building model • At the end of this session you will…. – Know how to bring an Inventor model into Revit – See the steps necessary to convert that model into usable BIM format – Gain insights into what Architects and Engineers want from BIM content – Understand the advantages of using the best solution for the task
  • 3. Creating Content With Autodesk Revit ( Without Inventor ) • Either : – Start new component, extrude/revolve/sweep, add connectors, save file, load into A/E’s project, place in project • Or : – Duplicate & rename existing component from Autodesk, make changes (i.e. use a new profile for a railing for example), save file, transfer into A/E’s project, place in project • Then : – optionally create a system, tag, confirm item is in the schedule(s)
  • 4. Revit Can Create Content for A/Es • Inventor is not a necessary software when creating Revit content • But…. Inventor might save you time
  • 5. So Why Should You Care? • If the A/Es can make their own content with Revit, why not just let them do the work? • Because it’s WORK! And A/Es have deadlines just like you • Because editing content in Revit is an additional skill set requiring additional training
  • 6. Revit File Formats • Project File (.RVT) • Family File (.RFA)
  • 7. Steps To Convert Inventor Format To Revit Format • Open in Inventor • Simplify the model • Recognize geometry – To find segments of model geometry and convert them into a set of native modeling options included in Revit. • Add and edit System connectors • Verify data • Export – To .RFA or .ADSK • (.ADSK can be opened by Revit or AutoCAD MEP)
  • 8. “Sounds Easy Enough……” • But here’s where it gets tricky…..
  • 9. What do all of these elements have in common? • Ceilings • Conduit • Curtain Systems • Curtain Wall Mullions • Duct • Floors • Pipe • Railings • Ramps • Roofs • Stairs • Structural Columns • Structural Foundations • Structural Framing • Walls • Etc. They are Revit System Families
  • 10. What do all of these elements have in common? • Casework • Door • Duct Accessory • Duct Fitting • Electrical Equipment • Fire Alarm • Furniture • Light Fixture • Light Switch • Mechanical Equipment • Pipe Fitting • Plumbing Fixtures • Specialty Equipment • Sprinkler • Window • Etc. They are Revit Loadable Families
  • 11. Some Content Is Not “Loadable”…… • System Families: – Typically prefabricated and/or constructed onsite – Many can host Component elements – Predefined by Autodesk – They live in the Revit project file (.RVT, not an .RFA) – Can not be created from scratch in the Family Editor • Loadable Families: – Typically installed onsite – Can be freestanding or hosted by Host elements – User-defined families built in the Family Editor – They can be loaded into a project (.RFA) – They can be created from scratch
  • 12. Creating A System Family For Use 1. In Inventor, sketch the end the mullion 3. In the Revit Family Editor, use the .DWG as an outline Profile. 2. Export that sketch as a .DWG 4. In the Revit project file, use that profile for your mullion
  • 13. System Family Usage • These previous 4 steps may help you get your content ready for use • Manufacturer’s that require Revit System Family components frequently have a back-and-forth design workflow with the Architect and/or Structural Engineer – See Curt afterwards to discuss your unique situation • Demonstration of Architect using your posted System Family component
  • 14. (again) Steps To Convert To A Revit Loadable Family • Open in Inventor • Simplify the model • Recognize geometry – To find segments of model geometry and convert them into a set of native modeling options included in Revit. • Add and edit System connectors • Verify data • Export – To .RFA or .ADSK • (.ADSK can be opened by Revit or AutoCAD MEP)
  • 15. Creating A Revit Loadable Family For Use • Demonstration
  • 16. Optionally Add Revit Clearance Lines For interference detection in the Revit project
  • 17. 1/4 MB4MB “Simplify” For Smaller Revit File Size
  • 18. The “Right Amount” Of Detail? • It depends how it will be used….. Construction documents? Marketing Material?
  • 19. The “Right Amount” Of Detail? • Complex components that don’t lend themselves to simplification….. – (where a “box” will not be enough)
  • 20. So What Does An A/E Hope For? • Speed and performance from the model • Ability to schedule and tag model components • Not having to model it ourselves • Graphic appropriateness from the content – not too much detail but not too little for construction docs – flexibility – detail levels that can be varied – choices would be nice for construction docs and for marketing material renderings – Lack of color
  • 21. Upward Compatibility • Like Inventor, Revit is upward compatible only – Manufacturer’s attempt to create content (.RFAs) in old versions of Revit (i.e. Revit 2010) for maximum market penetration – The .ADSK format was introduced with the 2010 release of Autodesk products
  • 22. Time For Additional Questions & Answers Thank you!!