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Grindr: Immoderation vs Sin in
the Global Virtual Gay Bar
Dr David Kreps, ISOS, University of Salford

July 2010
Agenda
Agenda


✤   Introduction - Sexual Social Networking

✤   Foucault’s History of Sexuality

✤   Queer theory

✤   Grindr

✤   Conclusion
Sexual social networking research
Sexual social networking research

✤   Participant observation

    ✤   Member of Gaydar (since 2000), Fitlads (since 2004), and Grindr (since 2009), as
        observer and conversationalist

    ✤   Time on ChatRoulette (since January 2010) meeting people from around the world

✤   Post-structuralist approach to concepts of identity, gender, sexuality - specifically
    Foucault, Butler, Deleuze (since 1995)

    ✤   Queer theory since 1990s, challenging hetero-normativity - Weeks, Halperin, Warner,
        Sedgwick, Butler - all heavily influenced by Foucault

    ✤   ‘Masculinities’ - Whitehead’s Foucauldian ‘masculine discursive subject’

✤   Situated within the broader phenomena of online social networking and of sex and the
    internet
Sexual Social Networking
publications
Sexual Social Networking
publications
✤   Kreps, D (2009) “Performing the Discourse of Sexuality Online: Foucault, Butler, and Video-
    sharing on Sexual Social Networking Sites” - focussing on Gaydar and Fitlads - at AMCIS 2009,
    San Francisco

    ✤   Due to be published as book chapter in Warburton, S (ed.) “Social Media and Digital Identity”
        IGI Global, early 2011

✤   Kreps, D (2010) “My Social Networking Profile: Copy, Resemblance, or Simulacrum? A
    Poststructuralist Interpretation of Social Information Systems”, European Journal of Information
    Systems 19 p104-115

✤   Kreps, D (2010) “Foucault, Exhibitionism and Voyeurism on ChatRoulette” - at CATaC 2010,
    Vancouver

✤   Kreps, D (2010) “Introducing Eco-Masculinities: How a masculine discursive subject approach to
    the Individual Differences Theory of Gender and IT impacts an environmental informatics
    project” - at AMCIS 2010, Lima

✤   Working towards a journal paper on sexual social networking
Home porn
Home porn


✤   ‘The Swinger’ - Polaroid Camera

✤   70s phenomenon “instant
    photography and instant
    pornography”

✤   Production of pornography -> from
    broadcast mode to distributed mode
Sex on the internet
Sex on the internet


 Saucy Polaroid now almost
 indistinguishable from
 professional pornography

 Naked photos and videos on
 Internet dating sites
Sexual Social Networking
Sexual Social Networking
✤   Adult Friend Finder - some 20m users

✤   Gaydar.co.uk “the world's most successful online dating
    site” (Guardian 2009) - over 3 million members [QSoft]

✤   Niche sites continue to grow while larger ones stagnate [TechCrunch]

✤   Subscriptions worth almost $1bn in US, €0.5bn in Europe




                           http://trust.mindswap.org/cgi-bin/relationshipTable.cgi
Foucault’s Scientia Sexualis
Foucault’s Scientia Sexualis

                   ✤   History of Sexuality vols 1,2 and 3

                   ✤   what appears as a "repression" of sexual drives
                       is a huge increase in the discussion of sex

                   ✤   Discourse on sexuality - confession >
                       consultation

                   ✤   from the Christian confessional box to the
                       sexologist’s, in the 19th century, and then in the
                       20th century the psychoanalyst’s couch

 Michel Foucault   ✤   Consultation + Web2.0 = Chat: sexual discourse
                       now the domain of all
Scientia Sexualis Videre
Scientia Sexualis Videre

✤   More than just
    self-advertising

✤   Competitive sexual
    exhibitionism

✤   more to do with
    communication
    about sex
    – albeit that that
    communication is visual
    rather than oral or textual – than it is about sex itself
Video-discourse
Video-discourse

✤   As Nakamura (2008) has described,
    digital images are as open to
    interpretation as Foucauldian visual
    “discourse-objects” (Foucault
    1995:140) as are vocal and written
    statements.

✤   the exchange of imagery online
    becomes a confessional sexual
    activity in its own right, quite apart
    from the physical meetings that may
    or may not be arranged through the
    website
The Use of Pleasure
The Use of Pleasure

✤   Christian taboos on non-procreative sex

    ✤   Anything non-procreative considered a
        transgression of ordained ‘natural’ activity

    ✤   Homosexuality intrinsically sinful

✤   Classical pagan concern with moderation

    ✤   Anything goes but best approach is ‘all things
        in moderation’

    ✤   Homosexuality institutionalised, ‘normal’ but
        subject to subtle restraints
Queer Theory
Queer Theory

1. “a conceptualization of sexuality which sees sexual power
   embodied in different levels of social life, expressed discursively
                                                                                 Sexuality
   and enforced through boundaries and binary divides”

2. “the problematization of sexual and gender categories, and of
   identities in general. Identities are always on uncertain ground,             Identity
   entailing displacements of identification and knowing”

3. “a rejection of civil-rights strategies in favor of a politics of carnival,
   transgression and parody which leads to deconstruction,                       Carnival
   decentering, revisionist readings and an anti-assimilationist politics”

4. “a willingness to interrogate areas which normally would not seen
   as the terrain of sexuality, and to conduct "queer" readings of                Queer
   ostensibly heterosexual or non-sexualized texts.”

   Stein and Plummer 1996
Queer Theory and reality
Queer Theory and reality

1. Radical deconstructionism - Sexuality and Identity
   “superimposes a postmodern self-concept onto the homosexual
   subject, thereby glossing over the enduring institutional organization
   of sexuality….”

2. Radical subversion - Carnival and Queer readings
   “superimposes a politically marginal self-concept onto the
   homosexual subject, thereby grossly oversimplifying complex
   developmental processes attendant to sexual identification.”
  Green A, “Gay but Not Queer: Toward a Post-Queer Study of Sexuality” Theory and Society, Vol. 31, No. 4 (Aug.,
  2002), pp. 521-545
Grindr
Grindr

✤   Location based service - ‘Gay GPS’

✤   500,000 members worldwide

✤   iPhone, Blackberry, Android

✤   Who’s online, how many metres away
    from you...

✤   Very simple personal profiles

✤   Chat application
Restraints
Restraints

✤   Steve Jobs April 2010

       ✤   “You know, there’s a porn store
           for Android. You can download
           nothing but porn. You can
           download porn, your kids can
           download porn. That’s a place
           we don’t want to go – so we’re
           not going to go there.” [Seeking Alpha]

✤   New Guidelines issued by Grindr
    shortly afterward - subject of some
    discussion online
Vancouver attack




                   This is NOT the boy in question
Vancouver attack

✤   Grindr condemned the attack on a 15yr old boy by a
    Vancouver 54 yr old. 

✤   Police blamed the geo-tagging iPhone app Grindr available on
    Apple Itunes for a sexual assault on a 15-year-old boy. 

✤   Bren Tynan, 54, from Vancouver was charged with sexual
    assault, sexual interference and invitation to sexual touching.

✤   “Grindr strongly condemns the inappropriate and criminal use
    of our service and actively cooperates with local authorities on
    any alleged illegal activity on our service,” Grindr spokesman

✤   Inter-generational sexual contact becomes an ‘attack’ when the
    boy is under the ‘legal’ age. At different times in recent history
    this age was 21. In Holland the age is 14, where in this case no
    ‘criminal’ act would have taken place.                               This is NOT the boy in question
Promiscuity
Promiscuity

✤   Does Grindr

    ✤   promote promiscuity?

    ✤   facilitate promiscuity?

    ✤   encourage promiscuity?

    ✤   celebrate promiscuity?
Anti-normalisation
Anti-normalisation
✤   Promiscuity one of several ‘kinds’ of sexual activities, including inter-
    generational sexual contact

✤   Both outside of hetero-normative behaviours and outside of assimilated
    ‘gay’ coupling - the healthy economic unit

✤   Associated with closeted individuals: ‘men who have sex with men’

✤   Associated with AIDs

✤   Liberated or libertine culture?

✤   Anti-normalisation post-queer theory simply attempting to allow space
    for such non-assimilated behaviours
Conclusion
Conclusion

✤   Grindr epitomises activities outside heteronormative, assimilated gay
    coupling, and attracts opprobium because of it

✤   Neither the Christian concept of non-procreative ‘sin’ nor the more
    liberal classical pagan focus upon ‘moderation’ would seem to
    approve of the contacts and activities Grindr facilitates

✤   The AppStore iPhone platform contrains at the same time as allowing
    Grindr

✤   Niche Sexual Social Networking moving off the web into mobile
    location-based services pushing at the boundaries of social
    acceptability
Contact
Contact

✤   Dr David Kreps

✤   Director, Centre for Information
    Systems, Organisations and Society

✤   http://www.isos.salford.ac.uk

✤   http://snipr.com/davidkreps

✤   d.g.kreps@salford.ac.uk

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Grindr: immoderation vs sin in the global virtual gay bar

  • 1. Grindr: Immoderation vs Sin in the Global Virtual Gay Bar Dr David Kreps, ISOS, University of Salford July 2010
  • 3. Agenda ✤ Introduction - Sexual Social Networking ✤ Foucault’s History of Sexuality ✤ Queer theory ✤ Grindr ✤ Conclusion
  • 5. Sexual social networking research ✤ Participant observation ✤ Member of Gaydar (since 2000), Fitlads (since 2004), and Grindr (since 2009), as observer and conversationalist ✤ Time on ChatRoulette (since January 2010) meeting people from around the world ✤ Post-structuralist approach to concepts of identity, gender, sexuality - specifically Foucault, Butler, Deleuze (since 1995) ✤ Queer theory since 1990s, challenging hetero-normativity - Weeks, Halperin, Warner, Sedgwick, Butler - all heavily influenced by Foucault ✤ ‘Masculinities’ - Whitehead’s Foucauldian ‘masculine discursive subject’ ✤ Situated within the broader phenomena of online social networking and of sex and the internet
  • 7. Sexual Social Networking publications ✤ Kreps, D (2009) “Performing the Discourse of Sexuality Online: Foucault, Butler, and Video- sharing on Sexual Social Networking Sites” - focussing on Gaydar and Fitlads - at AMCIS 2009, San Francisco ✤ Due to be published as book chapter in Warburton, S (ed.) “Social Media and Digital Identity” IGI Global, early 2011 ✤ Kreps, D (2010) “My Social Networking Profile: Copy, Resemblance, or Simulacrum? A Poststructuralist Interpretation of Social Information Systems”, European Journal of Information Systems 19 p104-115 ✤ Kreps, D (2010) “Foucault, Exhibitionism and Voyeurism on ChatRoulette” - at CATaC 2010, Vancouver ✤ Kreps, D (2010) “Introducing Eco-Masculinities: How a masculine discursive subject approach to the Individual Differences Theory of Gender and IT impacts an environmental informatics project” - at AMCIS 2010, Lima ✤ Working towards a journal paper on sexual social networking
  • 9. Home porn ✤ ‘The Swinger’ - Polaroid Camera ✤ 70s phenomenon “instant photography and instant pornography” ✤ Production of pornography -> from broadcast mode to distributed mode
  • 10. Sex on the internet
  • 11. Sex on the internet Saucy Polaroid now almost indistinguishable from professional pornography Naked photos and videos on Internet dating sites
  • 13. Sexual Social Networking ✤ Adult Friend Finder - some 20m users ✤ Gaydar.co.uk “the world's most successful online dating site” (Guardian 2009) - over 3 million members [QSoft] ✤ Niche sites continue to grow while larger ones stagnate [TechCrunch] ✤ Subscriptions worth almost $1bn in US, €0.5bn in Europe http://trust.mindswap.org/cgi-bin/relationshipTable.cgi
  • 15. Foucault’s Scientia Sexualis ✤ History of Sexuality vols 1,2 and 3 ✤ what appears as a "repression" of sexual drives is a huge increase in the discussion of sex ✤ Discourse on sexuality - confession > consultation ✤ from the Christian confessional box to the sexologist’s, in the 19th century, and then in the 20th century the psychoanalyst’s couch Michel Foucault ✤ Consultation + Web2.0 = Chat: sexual discourse now the domain of all
  • 17. Scientia Sexualis Videre ✤ More than just self-advertising ✤ Competitive sexual exhibitionism ✤ more to do with communication about sex – albeit that that communication is visual rather than oral or textual – than it is about sex itself
  • 19. Video-discourse ✤ As Nakamura (2008) has described, digital images are as open to interpretation as Foucauldian visual “discourse-objects” (Foucault 1995:140) as are vocal and written statements. ✤ the exchange of imagery online becomes a confessional sexual activity in its own right, quite apart from the physical meetings that may or may not be arranged through the website
  • 20. The Use of Pleasure
  • 21. The Use of Pleasure ✤ Christian taboos on non-procreative sex ✤ Anything non-procreative considered a transgression of ordained ‘natural’ activity ✤ Homosexuality intrinsically sinful ✤ Classical pagan concern with moderation ✤ Anything goes but best approach is ‘all things in moderation’ ✤ Homosexuality institutionalised, ‘normal’ but subject to subtle restraints
  • 23. Queer Theory 1. “a conceptualization of sexuality which sees sexual power embodied in different levels of social life, expressed discursively Sexuality and enforced through boundaries and binary divides” 2. “the problematization of sexual and gender categories, and of identities in general. Identities are always on uncertain ground, Identity entailing displacements of identification and knowing” 3. “a rejection of civil-rights strategies in favor of a politics of carnival, transgression and parody which leads to deconstruction, Carnival decentering, revisionist readings and an anti-assimilationist politics” 4. “a willingness to interrogate areas which normally would not seen as the terrain of sexuality, and to conduct "queer" readings of Queer ostensibly heterosexual or non-sexualized texts.” Stein and Plummer 1996
  • 24. Queer Theory and reality
  • 25. Queer Theory and reality 1. Radical deconstructionism - Sexuality and Identity “superimposes a postmodern self-concept onto the homosexual subject, thereby glossing over the enduring institutional organization of sexuality….” 2. Radical subversion - Carnival and Queer readings “superimposes a politically marginal self-concept onto the homosexual subject, thereby grossly oversimplifying complex developmental processes attendant to sexual identification.” Green A, “Gay but Not Queer: Toward a Post-Queer Study of Sexuality” Theory and Society, Vol. 31, No. 4 (Aug., 2002), pp. 521-545
  • 27. Grindr ✤ Location based service - ‘Gay GPS’ ✤ 500,000 members worldwide ✤ iPhone, Blackberry, Android ✤ Who’s online, how many metres away from you... ✤ Very simple personal profiles ✤ Chat application
  • 29. Restraints ✤ Steve Jobs April 2010 ✤ “You know, there’s a porn store for Android. You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That’s a place we don’t want to go – so we’re not going to go there.” [Seeking Alpha] ✤ New Guidelines issued by Grindr shortly afterward - subject of some discussion online
  • 30. Vancouver attack This is NOT the boy in question
  • 31. Vancouver attack ✤ Grindr condemned the attack on a 15yr old boy by a Vancouver 54 yr old.  ✤ Police blamed the geo-tagging iPhone app Grindr available on Apple Itunes for a sexual assault on a 15-year-old boy.  ✤ Bren Tynan, 54, from Vancouver was charged with sexual assault, sexual interference and invitation to sexual touching. ✤ “Grindr strongly condemns the inappropriate and criminal use of our service and actively cooperates with local authorities on any alleged illegal activity on our service,” Grindr spokesman ✤ Inter-generational sexual contact becomes an ‘attack’ when the boy is under the ‘legal’ age. At different times in recent history this age was 21. In Holland the age is 14, where in this case no ‘criminal’ act would have taken place. This is NOT the boy in question
  • 33. Promiscuity ✤ Does Grindr ✤ promote promiscuity? ✤ facilitate promiscuity? ✤ encourage promiscuity? ✤ celebrate promiscuity?
  • 35. Anti-normalisation ✤ Promiscuity one of several ‘kinds’ of sexual activities, including inter- generational sexual contact ✤ Both outside of hetero-normative behaviours and outside of assimilated ‘gay’ coupling - the healthy economic unit ✤ Associated with closeted individuals: ‘men who have sex with men’ ✤ Associated with AIDs ✤ Liberated or libertine culture? ✤ Anti-normalisation post-queer theory simply attempting to allow space for such non-assimilated behaviours
  • 37. Conclusion ✤ Grindr epitomises activities outside heteronormative, assimilated gay coupling, and attracts opprobium because of it ✤ Neither the Christian concept of non-procreative ‘sin’ nor the more liberal classical pagan focus upon ‘moderation’ would seem to approve of the contacts and activities Grindr facilitates ✤ The AppStore iPhone platform contrains at the same time as allowing Grindr ✤ Niche Sexual Social Networking moving off the web into mobile location-based services pushing at the boundaries of social acceptability
  • 39. Contact ✤ Dr David Kreps ✤ Director, Centre for Information Systems, Organisations and Society ✤ http://www.isos.salford.ac.uk ✤ http://snipr.com/davidkreps ✤ d.g.kreps@salford.ac.uk

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