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The Dismal Scientist!

The Price of Everything, the Value of Nothing



                         Ken Paterson
              RMCSG/GSMS Joint Meeting
                      10 January 2013
Health Technology Assessment
► Why do we need it at all?
► What is it?
► How is it actually done?
     Is it about science or just about money?
     Can it really assess costs, benefits and value?
     Is it too complex for ‘real people’ to grasp?
► What can prescribers (and patients) add?
► Are ‘they’ all heartless bean-counters?
   …or is it the way forward?
Increasing Pressures in all
          Health-Care Systems
► Population demography
   Aging population in almost all countries
   Increasing obesity and physical inactivity
► Patient/Public expectation
     More possibilities to intervene beneficially
     “a pill for every ill!”
     Lifestyle drugs/disease mongering
► Changing environment for new           medicines
   Mature market place
Pharmaceutical Market 2013
► Three decades of major advances
► Effective medicines for most common diseases
   Often now ‘generic’ agents at low cost
   Most needs met (at least to some extent)
► New medicines of two main types
   Extend choice in existing crowded areas
   New options in niche areas of unmet need
► Do the benefits justify the (opportunity) costs?
Medicines Licensing
► Safety
► Quality
► Efficacy (v placebo)


► Not comparative efficacy (or effectiveness)
► Not ‘place in therapy’
► Not ‘value for money’


► Licensing important but limited
Health Technology Assessment
► Provides a logical framework for decisions
► Has to compare many options –
   Different disease areas
   Different interventions
   Different patient groups
► Has to be as objective and dispassionate as
 possible
   …but still with a human face
► Inevitably produces ‘winners’ and ‘losers’
HTA - How is it Actually Done?
► Liraglutide – a new GLP-1 agonist
     Usually more expensive than exenatide
     Possibly better efficacy/tolerability
► A new option after 1 or 2 existing therapies
     Usually more expensive than TZD or DPP-4
     Different efficacy and tolerability profile
     Different ‘added value’ – eg weight
► Is it a good use of limited NHS money?
Clinical Issues for HTA
► S, Q and E covered by licensing
► Comparative efficacy tested
► Comparative safety tested
   …includes tolerability
► Likely effectiveness in ‘real-world’ clinical
  practice tested
   …will it do what it says on the tin?
► Overall, is it ‘value for money’?
Liraglutide Study Programme
► LEAD 1 – on SU, compare L to TZD
► LEAD 2 – on MF, compare L to SU
► LEAD 4 – on MF/TZD, compare L to glargine
► LEAD 5 – on MF/SU, compare L to glargine
► LEAD 6 – on MF/SU, compare L to exenatide


► Which is/are the most relevant comparisons?
   No comparison to DDP-4 inhibitor (‘gliptin’)
How Do We Measure Health Gain?
► 2 main domains
   Quantity of life (= survival)
   Quality of life
► QALY (quality-adjusted life year) gets both
How To Measure Quality of Life
► Utility from 1 (perfect health) to 0 (death)
► Visual analogue scale
► Generic questionnaire
   EQ-5D has 200 health states with utility for each
► Preference–based measures
     Time trade off
     Standard gamble
► An inexact science – ?what would be better
Utility Value Examples
► Diabetes, no complications    0.814
► MI, 2 years after event       0.736
► Congestive heart failure      0.633
► Painful neuropathy            0.624
► Stroke, 2 years after event   0.545
► Haemodialysis                 0.490
► BMI (per kg/m2   above 25)    0.006-
Trial v Lifetime Benefit
► Clinical trial shows short-term effects on
 surrogates
     HbA1c
     Blood pressure
     Lipids
     Weight
► HTA needs to see the consequent
 outcomes
   Mortality
   Morbidity
► Health economic ‘modelling’ the key
Modelling in Diabetes
► LOTS of great epidemiological data
   … including outcome of interventions
► LOTS of complexity
   Many surrogates
   Many outcomes
     ►Macrovascular events
     ►Microvascular complications

► How can we put all this together?
The Black Box Approach

         Input




         Output
The Actual Modelling
                                                                         User sets simulation
                                                                              conditions



                                                                          Generate baseline
                                                                             population


                                                                 No         Any patients
                                                                              to run?
                                                   Stop                                   Yes
                                                                            Time horizon
                                                                 Yes          Reached?
                                                                                          No

                                                                                                                                                                                           Screening
   ACEI
treatment
                                                                                                                                                                                             LASER
                                                                                                                                                                                           treatment
  Statin
treatment


  Aspirin                                                       Neuro-      Foot ulcer,         Retino-   Macular              Nephro--     Hypo-       Keto-       Lactic     Non-spec.
treatment      MI       Angina     CHF        Stroke      PVD                                                       Cataract
                                                                pathy       amputation           pathy    edema                 pathy      glycemia    acidosis    acidosis    mortality




            Specific             Specific    Specific                      Specific                                            Specific    Specific    Specific    Specific
            mortality            mortality   mortality                     mortality                                           mortality   mortality   mortality   mortality




                                                                               Overall annual
                                                                                  survival



                                                                                Time counter
                                                                                  advances



                                                                             Update simulation
                                                                                   data
CORE Diabetes Model
►CORE Diabetes Model                            ►UKPDS Outcomes Model
     Angina                                             Ischaemic heart disease
                                                         Myocardial infarction
     Myocardial infarction
                                                         Heart failure
     Heart failure
                                                         Stroke
     Stroke                                             Blindness
     Peripheral vascular disease                        Renal failure
     Diabetic retinopathy and blindness                 Amputation
     Macular oedema                            ►   First occurrence only
     Cataract
     Hypoglycaemia
     Ketoacidosis, lactic acidosis
     Nephropathy and end-stage renal disease
     Neuropathy
     Foot ulcer and amputation
CORE Model – How Reliable?
CORE Diabetes Model values




                                       66 validation analyses
                             100
                                       R2 = 0.9222
                                       y = 1.0187 x
                             80



                             60



                             40



                              20



                              0

                                   0          20        40       60         80   100


                                                   Published study values
Basic Model Structure

Cohort                                           Economics
             Treatment            Clinical        (costs and
(baseline)
                                                   utilities)




                   Data processing
                 (calculating annual risks
              for 15 different complications)




                      The results
             (predicting the clinical outcomes
                and associated HE results:
                      incidence rates,
                LE, QALE, costs, and more)
Simple Markov Model

                    Healthy                                                                                                                                                                            Ill   Dead




                                                                         User sets simulation
                                                                              conditions



                                                                          Generate baseline
                                                                             population


                                                                 No         Any patients
                                                                              to run?
                                                   Stop                                   Yes
                                                                            Time horizon
                                                                 Yes          Reached?
                                                                                          No

                                                                                                                                                                                           Screening
   ACEI
treatment
                                                                                                                                                                                             LASER
                                                                                                                                                                                           treatment
  Statin
treatment


  Aspirin                                                       Neuro-      Foot ulcer,         Retino-   Macular              Nephro--     Hypo-       Keto -      Lactic     Non-spec.
treatment      MI       Angina     CHF        Stroke      PVD                                                       Cataract
                                                                pathy       amputation           pathy    edema                 pathy      glycemia    acidosis    acidosis    mortality




            Specific             Specific    Specific                      Specific                                            Specific    Specific    Specific    Specific
            mortality            mortality   mortality                     mortality                                           mortality   mortality   mortality   mortality




                                                                               Overall annual
                                                                                  survival



                                                                                Time counter
                                                                                  advances



                                                                             Update simulation
                                                                                   data
Costs to NHS by Health

   Healthy           Ill           Dead
  Cost: € 25    Cost: € 2500      Cost: € 0




Not only medicines costs but ALL costs
from NHS budgets
A costly medicine may offset its cost by
producing savings elsewhere
Quality of Life

 Healthy             Ill        Dead
Cost: € 25      Cost: € 2500   Cost: € 0
 QoL: 1.0         QoL: 0.5     QoL: 0.0
Over Time – nothing changes…

   Healthy          Ill        Dead
  Cost: € 25   Cost: € 2500   Cost: € 0
   QoL: 1.0      QoL: 0.5     QoL: 0.0
…or you can move on!

 Healthy          Ill        Dead
Cost: € 25   Cost: € 2500   Cost: € 0
 QoL: 1.0      QoL: 0.5     QoL: 0.0
…and we know the chances!!
                30%

    Healthy                Ill              Dead
   Cost: € 25         Cost: € 2500         Cost: € 0
    QoL: 1.0            QoL: 0.5           QoL: 0.0
                 15%                 20%

       80%                50%




                           5%

Chances are obviously dependent on time -
these are the chances per cycle length (1 year)
How Does the Model Run?
► We know all the clinical issues
   …and chances of progression/improvement
► We know the impact of changes in -
     Weight
     HbA1c
     BP
     Lipids
► … on chances of progression/improvement
► We know how the interventions (liraglutide
 and comparators) affect these surrogates
Monte-Carlo Simulation!
► We know our diabetes population
► Let’s invent 1000 patients
    … representative of ALL Scottish patients
► Let’s treat them with liraglutide or comparator
► Let’s run the model until they all die (~20 years)
► Let’s see the costs and health gains with
  liraglutide and with the comparator
    For each patient calculate the extra cost and extra
     QALYs (or less cost or QALYs)
► Let’s see what the overall cost-per-QALY looks
  like
The Actual Markov Model
                                                                         User sets simulation
                                                                              conditions



                                                                          Generate baseline
                                                                             population


                                                                 No         Any patients
                                                                              to run?
                                                   Stop                                   Yes
                                                                            Time horizon
                                                                 Yes          Reached?
                                                                                          No

                                                                                                                                                                                           Screening
   ACEI
treatment
                                                                                                                                                                                             LASER
                                                                                                                                                                                           treatment
  Statin
treatment


  Aspirin                                                       Neuro-      Foot ulcer,         Retino-   Macular              Nephro--     Hypo-       Keto -      Lactic     Non-spec.
treatment      MI       Angina     CHF        Stroke      PVD                                                       Cataract
                                                                pathy       amputation           pathy    edema                 pathy      glycemia    acidosis    acidosis    mortality




            Specific             Specific    Specific                      Specific                                            Specific    Specific    Specific    Specific
            mortality            mortality   mortality                     mortality                                           mortality   mortality   mortality   mortality




                                                                               Overall annual
                                                                                  survival



                                                                                Time counter
                                                                                  advances



                                                                             Update simulation
                                                                                   data
Single Patient Data

£   Additional
      Health




                 Additional
                    Cost



                              QALY
The Whole Population

 £




            QALY
Liraglutide 1.2mg v Exenatide
                     £10,000


                       £5,000


                           £0
  -1          -0.5              0       0.5   1
∆ Costs (£)
                      -£5,000


                     -£10,000
                       ∆ QALY (years)


Most patients are cheaper with most getting
health-gain – liraglutide DOMINANT
Liraglutide 1.8mg v Exenatide
                          £10,000


                            £5,000


                                £0
       -1          -0.5              0       0.5   1
     ∆ Costs (£)
                           -£5,000


                          -£10,000
                            ∆ QALY (years)



Most patients cost more but get more health-gain
– median cost-per-QALY £15,581
Sensitivity Analysis
► A series of ‘what-if’ tests
► Allows exploration of doubt in the model
     Remove or add individual factors (eg mortality)
     Allow for ‘real-world’ rather than clinical trial
     Use different utility (QoL) values
► Shows what are the key assumptions
   We can then test these with real clinicians
   We can focus our final judgment on these
► Cost-per-QALY is not set in stone!!
Liraglutide 1.2mg Cost-Effectiveness

► LEAD 1 – on SU, L v TZD       £10,751
► LEAD 2 – on MF, L v SU        £23,598
► LEAD 4 – on MF/TZD, L v glarg £7,801
► LEAD 5 – on MF/SU, L v glarg  £8,847
► LEAD 6 – on MF/SU, L v exen   dominant
Liraglutide 1.8mg Cost-Effectiveness

► LEAD 1 – on SU, L v TZD       £17,394
► LEAD 2 – on MF, L v SU        £43,369
► LEAD 4 – on MF/TZD, L v glarg £14,923
► LEAD 5 – on MF/SU, L v glarg  £17,777
► LEAD 6 – on MF/SU, L v exen   £15,581
Cost-Effectiveness Threshold
► <£20K – YES; >£30K – NO
► Plucked from thin air – no ‘scientific’ basis
   Industry (?patients) think it should be higher (!)
   Economists think it should be lower (?£15K)
► Provides a level of fairness even if wrong!
   … but links poorly to other initiatives
     ►Motorway barriers
     ►Automated train signalling
     ►Airport security

► Worthy of greater discussion/debate
What Can Prescribers Add?
► Information on real-world practice
     … what is/are the best comparator(s)?
     … how are these patients looked after?
     … what is the extent/nature of unmet need?
► Comment on the health economic case
     Not the detail but the clinical assumptions
     Is the model capturing all benefits (and ADRs)?
     Economists (pharma and HTA!) good at maths
      and models, not clinical practice
The Larkin Tests!
► The Poke of Chips test
   Drug X                        outcomes…..
   Drug X + docetaxel       outcomes…..

► The Larkin Test
   “If this medicine does very little and costs £5000
    per year, why is the cost per QALY £10?”

► Sense-checking always crucial!!
What Can Patients Add?
► Real insights into their experience of diabetes
► Detail on the problems of current therapy
   Tolerability
   Convenience
► Potential patient sub-groups for new therapy
   … beyond pure clinical trial data
   … based on vignettes/anecdote at times
► Main role is in finely-balanced decisions
How Good Are New Medicines?
► Manufacturers’ assessments of lifetime
 health gain for 256 medicines
      27% NO health gain
      20% >0 but ≤0.1 QALY
      25% >0.1 but ≤0.5 QALY
      15% >0.5 but ≤1.0 QALY
      13% >1 QALY
    Median 0.14 QALY; mean 0.59 QALY
HTA - Implications for
            Prescribers
► Good prescribing cannot ignore cost
► Cost-effectiveness is not about saving money
► Why would you prescribe outwith guidance?
   You don’t care!
    ►Why not? - it’s not your money!!

   There are patient specific benefits not captured
    ►Are you sure? Why would they be omitted if real?

   There are reasons to ‘push the boat out’
    ►Good reasons? How would you justify if asked?
Do We Need to Redefine
               ‘Value’?
► Licensing based on ‘risk:benefit’
► Benefit is the impact on the disease
   …easily measured in clinical trials
► Value is the impact of ‘risk:benefit’ on the
  patient
     …not easily measured in clinical trials
     May well need ‘modelling’, use of surrogates etc
     May not be measured in £££/€€€/$$$
► Health economic modelling or value
  modelling?
Anti-Disease to Pro-Patient
  ► Anti-cancer
  ► Anti-retroviral
  ► Anti-infective
  ► Anti-fungal
  ► Anti-diabetic
  ► Anti-hypertensive
  ► Anti-inflammatory


  ► Where is the patient?
Medicine for Cancer or Patient?

 •Two medicines for the same cancer -
 outcome at 8 months
   – Medicine A - 30% reduction in primary
   tumour size; mean 12.5 kg weight loss,
   mean loss of 1.5 in performance status;
   mean 28 days as in-patient
   – Medicine B - 30% increase in primary
   tumour size; no change in mean weight; no
   change in performance status; mean 4 days
   as in-patient
The Paradigm Shift
► NOT ‘how does the medicine impact the
 disease’
   RECIST, viral load, CRP etc
► BUT “how does the medicine impact the
 patient with the disease’
     Perception of health
     Functional abilities
     Quality of life
► The real value of a medicine (or anything else)
Value Assessment in Healthcare
► Probably a necessary ‘evil’
   The worst way apart from all the others!
► Principles of health economics are sound
     Clinically based
     Far from ‘facile’, ‘simple’ or all about price
     Aims to capture all benefits and true value
► Money wasted in NHS helps no-one
   … and deprives other patients of real benefits
► Health economists (and friends) are human -
 they and their subject are not DISMAL!
Thomas Carlyle
        “That there should one
        man die ignorant who
        had capacity for
        knowledge, this I call a
        tragedy!”

        “The greatest of
        faults, I should say,
        is to be conscious of
        none!”
Oscar Wilde
       “It is always a silly
       thing to give advice,
       but to give good advice
       is fatal!”


       “Always forgive
       your enemies -
       nothing annoys
       them so much!!”
Thank You!

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  • 1. The Dismal Scientist! The Price of Everything, the Value of Nothing Ken Paterson RMCSG/GSMS Joint Meeting 10 January 2013
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  • 5. Health Technology Assessment ► Why do we need it at all? ► What is it? ► How is it actually done?  Is it about science or just about money?  Can it really assess costs, benefits and value?  Is it too complex for ‘real people’ to grasp? ► What can prescribers (and patients) add? ► Are ‘they’ all heartless bean-counters?  …or is it the way forward?
  • 6. Increasing Pressures in all Health-Care Systems ► Population demography  Aging population in almost all countries  Increasing obesity and physical inactivity ► Patient/Public expectation  More possibilities to intervene beneficially  “a pill for every ill!”  Lifestyle drugs/disease mongering ► Changing environment for new medicines  Mature market place
  • 7. Pharmaceutical Market 2013 ► Three decades of major advances ► Effective medicines for most common diseases  Often now ‘generic’ agents at low cost  Most needs met (at least to some extent) ► New medicines of two main types  Extend choice in existing crowded areas  New options in niche areas of unmet need ► Do the benefits justify the (opportunity) costs?
  • 8. Medicines Licensing ► Safety ► Quality ► Efficacy (v placebo) ► Not comparative efficacy (or effectiveness) ► Not ‘place in therapy’ ► Not ‘value for money’ ► Licensing important but limited
  • 9. Health Technology Assessment ► Provides a logical framework for decisions ► Has to compare many options –  Different disease areas  Different interventions  Different patient groups ► Has to be as objective and dispassionate as possible  …but still with a human face ► Inevitably produces ‘winners’ and ‘losers’
  • 10. HTA - How is it Actually Done? ► Liraglutide – a new GLP-1 agonist  Usually more expensive than exenatide  Possibly better efficacy/tolerability ► A new option after 1 or 2 existing therapies  Usually more expensive than TZD or DPP-4  Different efficacy and tolerability profile  Different ‘added value’ – eg weight ► Is it a good use of limited NHS money?
  • 11. Clinical Issues for HTA ► S, Q and E covered by licensing ► Comparative efficacy tested ► Comparative safety tested  …includes tolerability ► Likely effectiveness in ‘real-world’ clinical practice tested  …will it do what it says on the tin? ► Overall, is it ‘value for money’?
  • 12. Liraglutide Study Programme ► LEAD 1 – on SU, compare L to TZD ► LEAD 2 – on MF, compare L to SU ► LEAD 4 – on MF/TZD, compare L to glargine ► LEAD 5 – on MF/SU, compare L to glargine ► LEAD 6 – on MF/SU, compare L to exenatide ► Which is/are the most relevant comparisons?  No comparison to DDP-4 inhibitor (‘gliptin’)
  • 13. How Do We Measure Health Gain? ► 2 main domains  Quantity of life (= survival)  Quality of life ► QALY (quality-adjusted life year) gets both
  • 14. How To Measure Quality of Life ► Utility from 1 (perfect health) to 0 (death) ► Visual analogue scale ► Generic questionnaire  EQ-5D has 200 health states with utility for each ► Preference–based measures  Time trade off  Standard gamble ► An inexact science – ?what would be better
  • 15. Utility Value Examples ► Diabetes, no complications 0.814 ► MI, 2 years after event 0.736 ► Congestive heart failure 0.633 ► Painful neuropathy 0.624 ► Stroke, 2 years after event 0.545 ► Haemodialysis 0.490 ► BMI (per kg/m2 above 25) 0.006-
  • 16. Trial v Lifetime Benefit ► Clinical trial shows short-term effects on surrogates  HbA1c  Blood pressure  Lipids  Weight ► HTA needs to see the consequent outcomes  Mortality  Morbidity ► Health economic ‘modelling’ the key
  • 17. Modelling in Diabetes ► LOTS of great epidemiological data  … including outcome of interventions ► LOTS of complexity  Many surrogates  Many outcomes ►Macrovascular events ►Microvascular complications ► How can we put all this together?
  • 18. The Black Box Approach Input Output
  • 19. The Actual Modelling User sets simulation conditions Generate baseline population No Any patients to run? Stop Yes Time horizon Yes Reached? No Screening ACEI treatment LASER treatment Statin treatment Aspirin Neuro- Foot ulcer, Retino- Macular Nephro-- Hypo- Keto- Lactic Non-spec. treatment MI Angina CHF Stroke PVD Cataract pathy amputation pathy edema pathy glycemia acidosis acidosis mortality Specific Specific Specific Specific Specific Specific Specific Specific mortality mortality mortality mortality mortality mortality mortality mortality Overall annual survival Time counter advances Update simulation data
  • 20. CORE Diabetes Model ►CORE Diabetes Model ►UKPDS Outcomes Model  Angina  Ischaemic heart disease  Myocardial infarction  Myocardial infarction  Heart failure  Heart failure  Stroke  Stroke  Blindness  Peripheral vascular disease  Renal failure  Diabetic retinopathy and blindness  Amputation  Macular oedema ► First occurrence only  Cataract  Hypoglycaemia  Ketoacidosis, lactic acidosis  Nephropathy and end-stage renal disease  Neuropathy  Foot ulcer and amputation
  • 21. CORE Model – How Reliable? CORE Diabetes Model values 66 validation analyses 100 R2 = 0.9222 y = 1.0187 x 80 60 40 20 0 0 20 40 60 80 100 Published study values
  • 22. Basic Model Structure Cohort Economics Treatment Clinical (costs and (baseline) utilities) Data processing (calculating annual risks for 15 different complications) The results (predicting the clinical outcomes and associated HE results: incidence rates, LE, QALE, costs, and more)
  • 23. Simple Markov Model Healthy Ill Dead User sets simulation conditions Generate baseline population No Any patients to run? Stop Yes Time horizon Yes Reached? No Screening ACEI treatment LASER treatment Statin treatment Aspirin Neuro- Foot ulcer, Retino- Macular Nephro-- Hypo- Keto - Lactic Non-spec. treatment MI Angina CHF Stroke PVD Cataract pathy amputation pathy edema pathy glycemia acidosis acidosis mortality Specific Specific Specific Specific Specific Specific Specific Specific mortality mortality mortality mortality mortality mortality mortality mortality Overall annual survival Time counter advances Update simulation data
  • 24. Costs to NHS by Health Healthy Ill Dead Cost: € 25 Cost: € 2500 Cost: € 0 Not only medicines costs but ALL costs from NHS budgets A costly medicine may offset its cost by producing savings elsewhere
  • 25. Quality of Life Healthy Ill Dead Cost: € 25 Cost: € 2500 Cost: € 0 QoL: 1.0 QoL: 0.5 QoL: 0.0
  • 26. Over Time – nothing changes… Healthy Ill Dead Cost: € 25 Cost: € 2500 Cost: € 0 QoL: 1.0 QoL: 0.5 QoL: 0.0
  • 27. …or you can move on! Healthy Ill Dead Cost: € 25 Cost: € 2500 Cost: € 0 QoL: 1.0 QoL: 0.5 QoL: 0.0
  • 28. …and we know the chances!! 30% Healthy Ill Dead Cost: € 25 Cost: € 2500 Cost: € 0 QoL: 1.0 QoL: 0.5 QoL: 0.0 15% 20% 80% 50% 5% Chances are obviously dependent on time - these are the chances per cycle length (1 year)
  • 29. How Does the Model Run? ► We know all the clinical issues  …and chances of progression/improvement ► We know the impact of changes in -  Weight  HbA1c  BP  Lipids ► … on chances of progression/improvement ► We know how the interventions (liraglutide and comparators) affect these surrogates
  • 30. Monte-Carlo Simulation! ► We know our diabetes population ► Let’s invent 1000 patients  … representative of ALL Scottish patients ► Let’s treat them with liraglutide or comparator ► Let’s run the model until they all die (~20 years) ► Let’s see the costs and health gains with liraglutide and with the comparator  For each patient calculate the extra cost and extra QALYs (or less cost or QALYs) ► Let’s see what the overall cost-per-QALY looks like
  • 31. The Actual Markov Model User sets simulation conditions Generate baseline population No Any patients to run? Stop Yes Time horizon Yes Reached? No Screening ACEI treatment LASER treatment Statin treatment Aspirin Neuro- Foot ulcer, Retino- Macular Nephro-- Hypo- Keto - Lactic Non-spec. treatment MI Angina CHF Stroke PVD Cataract pathy amputation pathy edema pathy glycemia acidosis acidosis mortality Specific Specific Specific Specific Specific Specific Specific Specific mortality mortality mortality mortality mortality mortality mortality mortality Overall annual survival Time counter advances Update simulation data
  • 32. Single Patient Data £ Additional Health Additional Cost QALY
  • 34. Liraglutide 1.2mg v Exenatide £10,000 £5,000 £0 -1 -0.5 0 0.5 1 ∆ Costs (£) -£5,000 -£10,000 ∆ QALY (years) Most patients are cheaper with most getting health-gain – liraglutide DOMINANT
  • 35. Liraglutide 1.8mg v Exenatide £10,000 £5,000 £0 -1 -0.5 0 0.5 1 ∆ Costs (£) -£5,000 -£10,000 ∆ QALY (years) Most patients cost more but get more health-gain – median cost-per-QALY £15,581
  • 36. Sensitivity Analysis ► A series of ‘what-if’ tests ► Allows exploration of doubt in the model  Remove or add individual factors (eg mortality)  Allow for ‘real-world’ rather than clinical trial  Use different utility (QoL) values ► Shows what are the key assumptions  We can then test these with real clinicians  We can focus our final judgment on these ► Cost-per-QALY is not set in stone!!
  • 37. Liraglutide 1.2mg Cost-Effectiveness ► LEAD 1 – on SU, L v TZD £10,751 ► LEAD 2 – on MF, L v SU £23,598 ► LEAD 4 – on MF/TZD, L v glarg £7,801 ► LEAD 5 – on MF/SU, L v glarg £8,847 ► LEAD 6 – on MF/SU, L v exen dominant
  • 38. Liraglutide 1.8mg Cost-Effectiveness ► LEAD 1 – on SU, L v TZD £17,394 ► LEAD 2 – on MF, L v SU £43,369 ► LEAD 4 – on MF/TZD, L v glarg £14,923 ► LEAD 5 – on MF/SU, L v glarg £17,777 ► LEAD 6 – on MF/SU, L v exen £15,581
  • 39. Cost-Effectiveness Threshold ► <£20K – YES; >£30K – NO ► Plucked from thin air – no ‘scientific’ basis  Industry (?patients) think it should be higher (!)  Economists think it should be lower (?£15K) ► Provides a level of fairness even if wrong!  … but links poorly to other initiatives ►Motorway barriers ►Automated train signalling ►Airport security ► Worthy of greater discussion/debate
  • 40. What Can Prescribers Add? ► Information on real-world practice  … what is/are the best comparator(s)?  … how are these patients looked after?  … what is the extent/nature of unmet need? ► Comment on the health economic case  Not the detail but the clinical assumptions  Is the model capturing all benefits (and ADRs)?  Economists (pharma and HTA!) good at maths and models, not clinical practice
  • 41. The Larkin Tests! ► The Poke of Chips test  Drug X outcomes…..  Drug X + docetaxel outcomes….. ► The Larkin Test  “If this medicine does very little and costs £5000 per year, why is the cost per QALY £10?” ► Sense-checking always crucial!!
  • 42. What Can Patients Add? ► Real insights into their experience of diabetes ► Detail on the problems of current therapy  Tolerability  Convenience ► Potential patient sub-groups for new therapy  … beyond pure clinical trial data  … based on vignettes/anecdote at times ► Main role is in finely-balanced decisions
  • 43. How Good Are New Medicines? ► Manufacturers’ assessments of lifetime health gain for 256 medicines 27% NO health gain 20% >0 but ≤0.1 QALY 25% >0.1 but ≤0.5 QALY 15% >0.5 but ≤1.0 QALY 13% >1 QALY Median 0.14 QALY; mean 0.59 QALY
  • 44. HTA - Implications for Prescribers ► Good prescribing cannot ignore cost ► Cost-effectiveness is not about saving money ► Why would you prescribe outwith guidance?  You don’t care! ►Why not? - it’s not your money!!  There are patient specific benefits not captured ►Are you sure? Why would they be omitted if real?  There are reasons to ‘push the boat out’ ►Good reasons? How would you justify if asked?
  • 45. Do We Need to Redefine ‘Value’? ► Licensing based on ‘risk:benefit’ ► Benefit is the impact on the disease  …easily measured in clinical trials ► Value is the impact of ‘risk:benefit’ on the patient  …not easily measured in clinical trials  May well need ‘modelling’, use of surrogates etc  May not be measured in £££/€€€/$$$ ► Health economic modelling or value modelling?
  • 46. Anti-Disease to Pro-Patient ► Anti-cancer ► Anti-retroviral ► Anti-infective ► Anti-fungal ► Anti-diabetic ► Anti-hypertensive ► Anti-inflammatory ► Where is the patient?
  • 47. Medicine for Cancer or Patient? •Two medicines for the same cancer - outcome at 8 months – Medicine A - 30% reduction in primary tumour size; mean 12.5 kg weight loss, mean loss of 1.5 in performance status; mean 28 days as in-patient – Medicine B - 30% increase in primary tumour size; no change in mean weight; no change in performance status; mean 4 days as in-patient
  • 48. The Paradigm Shift ► NOT ‘how does the medicine impact the disease’  RECIST, viral load, CRP etc ► BUT “how does the medicine impact the patient with the disease’  Perception of health  Functional abilities  Quality of life ► The real value of a medicine (or anything else)
  • 49. Value Assessment in Healthcare ► Probably a necessary ‘evil’  The worst way apart from all the others! ► Principles of health economics are sound  Clinically based  Far from ‘facile’, ‘simple’ or all about price  Aims to capture all benefits and true value ► Money wasted in NHS helps no-one  … and deprives other patients of real benefits ► Health economists (and friends) are human - they and their subject are not DISMAL!
  • 50. Thomas Carlyle “That there should one man die ignorant who had capacity for knowledge, this I call a tragedy!” “The greatest of faults, I should say, is to be conscious of none!”
  • 51. Oscar Wilde “It is always a silly thing to give advice, but to give good advice is fatal!” “Always forgive your enemies - nothing annoys them so much!!”

Notas del editor

  1. QALY Gain 0.118 Cost £1841