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FAQ for Beyond Job Boards – A Job-Hunter’s GuruGuide

 The questions inspiring the following answers come largely from                                           author:@oracle.com at Google Groups (substitute the company
 the “Using LinkedIn” and "Beyond Job Boards: Use No-Cost                                                  email domain of your desired person) and click on any message in
 Social Networking and Web 2.0 Search to Uncover Full-Time                                                 your results. Then click View Profile next to the message author's
 Careers and Freelance Work" presentations by Shally Steckerl and                                          name. This will reveal the email format for the company. Most of
 Glenn Gutmacher of Arbita ACES. This is not meant to be an                                                the time it's first initial plus last name @, firstname.lastname@ or
 exhaustive set of answers to job-seeker questions, but rather                                             firstname_lastname@ so you could just email all three and
 complement what was taught in the webinar about innovative                                                whichever doesn't bounce back is the right one!
 online research and networking methods adapted for job search.
                                                                                                           Q: When you do a Boolean search, how do choose which item goes
                                Job Meta-Aggregators                                                       first in the search query (job title, area code or what)?

 Q: Are you aware of any services (job boards, subscription                                                A: Start with most important keywords first, least important at end
 services, etc.) that 'mine' jobs from companies' own employment                                           of string. When searching for potential hiring managers, start with
 pages as opposed to job boards? TheLadders and                                                            company name(s), then job title(s), then any unique skill
 EmploymentCrossing claim to do this, but I only find job board                                            terms/jargon, and end with geographic filters (area codes and state
 postings there.                                                                                           abbreviation).

 A: GetTheJob does this, as does DirectEmployers for its 300+                                              Q: What if you know a person's name and phone, but not what
 member companies. However, the sites you mentioned datamine                                               company they work for?
 directly also. To maximize reach and efficiency, most employers
 don't list a job solely on their website. Many employer jobs are                                          A: Try a reverse phone lookup with Argali (free download) or
 crossposted on various boards (our parent company pioneered the                                           simply type the person's name on an aggregated search tool like
 technology to automate this in the early 1990s) so it may appear a                                        Wink that searches profiles across most major social networks. Or
 job comes from a board even when the employer's site is the                                               simply type the person's name (inside quotation marks) on a regular
 source. To see the most job postings, you are currently best off                                          search engine.
 with job aggregator sites like Indeed, SimplyHired, Juju, etc.
 Remember, when your search results appear, you can set an email                                           Q: You ran the searches related:www.altitudeinc.com and
 alert or RSS feed to keep getting relevant results.                                                       site:nike.com on Google. Does it impact results if you include the
                                                                                                           www or not?
 Q: Do you know whether and when Google and its fellow web
 crawlers plan to spider actual companies' employment pages?                                               A: Yes, results will vary, sometimes significantly. For a highly
                                                                                                           important search, it's worth running the query both ways.
 A: First, there are technical hurdles to index dynamically-
 generated content (bots currently can't do that well) which is                                            Q: How can I gather the email addresses of my Facebook 'friends'
 unfortunately the platform for most job databases. This caused                                            so that I can conduct a mailing to them?
 Google to go in another direction for now: Get companies and job
 boards to facilitate it: Googlebase lets people upload jobs and                                           A: You currently can't export friends' contact information from
 submit other kinds of content free, which also end up in regular                                          Facebook. But you can search Facebook and then use the person
 Google search results. And most job meta-aggregators have                                                 and company name with the above-mentioned method to get their
 figured out how to make the jobs they collect appear in search                                            email and/or phone.
 engine results. We don't know their plans, but if one can make
 money from spidering any kind of online content, it's just a matter                                       Q: I realize the social networks let me target people searches
 of time.                                                                                                  geographically, but how can I find people in my field in my local
                                                                                                           area who may not be on those networks?
           Search Methods & Obtaining Contact Information
                                                                                                           A: You could search membership rosters or post networking
 Q: How do you get phones or email addresses for people you find?                                          messages within local chapters of relevant associations, user groups,
                                                                                                           etc. Find their resumes or bios via search engines (add geographic
 A: For phone numbers, you can call the company's main number                                              criteria to your searches such as area code/state - e.g., (508 OR 617
 (listed on their website) and ask to be transferred to [Name]. Try                                        OR 781 OR 978) ", MA" for greater Boston). Google also allows
 Argali (free download) or Zabasearch for home phones. For phone                                           zipcode range search.
 or email, check their social network profiles (Wink lets you find
 most all of them) which often list contact information. Otherwise,                                        Q: How can I find out who in my Facebook or Twitter universe
 for emails, the webinar presentation mentioned the search engine                                          works at a given company? Posting "Tom is looking for someone
 method, i.e., typing "Firstname Lastname" (CompanyName OR                                                 who can introduce him to the right manager at X company" seems
 *@companyemaildomain) but you can also try typing                                                         inefficient and whiny. What works better?
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FAQ for Beyond Job Boards – A Job-Hunter’s GuruGuide

                                                                                                           account begin after five strikes. This can be remedied, but it's safer
 A: On Facebook, type the company name in the main search (top                                             to send a mass-email via regular email with a link to your profile,
 right box on homepage), click the People tab in your results, then                                        requesting they click it and connect or give their permission for you
 after "Show results from", select "My Networks" in the menu                                               to make the connection.
 (though you'd have more results with the default "All networks").
 A tool that lets you search through friends' bios only for keywords,                                      Q: How can you filter for Open Networkers when searching?
 locations, etc., is TweepSearch (click Help for how-to) but again,
 you might want to use Twitter itself to search through everyone.                                          A: On the Advanced Search form, Search only open network
                                                                                                           members (the checkbox beside the circle of colored blue and orange
                             LinkedIn-related questions                                                    dots).

 Q: When building one's social network, should I focus on people                                           Q: Once you find someone via social networks that you want to
 who know me well for my first-degree connections?                                                         approach for a job, is it best to just send a direct message and
                                                                                                           see if they will talk with you?
 A: No. If you worked at the same company with someone but not
 with them, maybe bumped into each other occasionally, they                                                A: Yes, but first try to learn something about the person by
 should be made first degree connections. Same for people you                                              looking at their profiles, their past blogposts, etc., much as you
 went to school with, and maybe had a class in common. You don't                                           would prefer to research your recipient when sending a resume
 have to be buddies with someone to make them first degree. They                                           so the cover letter isn't generic. How you approach matters: Be
 have something in common (membership in an association, etc.).                                            succinct, think about what would intrigue the recipient, and lead
 First-degree should extend to them as well.                                                               with that. Don't indicate a job hunting need in the first
                                                                                                           communication. Focus on how you can help them (not your job-
 Q: When building one's social network (e.g., on LinkedIn), should                                         search), a common point of interest (same industry niche,
 my emphasis be to add as many well-connected people as possible                                           location, alma mater, etc.) and just a web link leading to more
 even though I hardly know them and they know nothing about me?                                            detail about you

 A: Yes and no. It's fine to add the super-connectors who accept                                                                            LinkedIn Groups
 connections from anyone (these so-called "Open Networkers" are
 people who have an icon of a ring of small blue circles next to their                                     Q: Why should I create a group on LinkedIn?
 name and/or display their email address on their profiles). You can
 find these people in many ways, such as at TopLinked. If you                                              A: First, it allows you to see the name and email address of
 want to add people in your particular industry, etc., then first reach                                    everyone who asks to join your group, so you could save that
 out with a short get-to-know you communication (not a connection                                          contact information for future outreach. Second, you can help
 request).                                                                                                 shape the group's focus by inviting people in your area of
                                                                                                           interest. As the group grows, you create a network that helps
 Q: Is professional credibility or having something substantive in                                         you both to find work and to enhance your career and others'
 common crucial when asking for introductions?                                                             even afterwards. You create goodwill that pays you back in
                                                                                                           unforeseen ways. For many more reasons, see Shally's blogpost.
 A: Having worked at the same company, attended the same school,
 member of the same association, or have any other common                                                  Q: How do I create a group on LinkedIn?
 interest, is sufficient to initiate an introduction. But if you want to
 be introduced to someone, choose the person who you think knows                                           A: Go to LinkedIn Groups Directory search and see if another
 you best, would be more likely to do you a favor, and/or would give                                       similar group exists. (If another such group is large and active,
 the most meaningful introduction. LinkedIn lets you pick the                                              you may or may not want to create your own.) Click the Create
 person among those with a path to your target to forward the                                              a Group button and follow the free steps. For step-by-step, see
 introduction through.                                                                                     LinkedIn's blogpost on it or this article for more detail.

 Q: After I use LinkedIn's Outlook contacts import, it shows                                               Q: What is the most important factor to the success of a group
 hundreds of names of my contacts using LinkedIn. Should I send a                                          on LinkedIn?
 mass-invitation through LinkedIn to connect?
                                                                                                           A: The level of participation. If it's not seeded with posts early
 A: No, because if some of those contacts are old and the recipient                                        on, and builds in activity, it will wither and die. So don't just get
 clicks the "I don't know this person" button on the connection                                            people to join. Encourage them to post news, updates, jobs,
 request, you get a strike against you. Certain restrictions on your                                       respond to discussions, etc.


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LinkedIn and Job Hunting FAQ

  • 1. FAQ for Beyond Job Boards – A Job-Hunter’s GuruGuide The questions inspiring the following answers come largely from author:@oracle.com at Google Groups (substitute the company the “Using LinkedIn” and "Beyond Job Boards: Use No-Cost email domain of your desired person) and click on any message in Social Networking and Web 2.0 Search to Uncover Full-Time your results. Then click View Profile next to the message author's Careers and Freelance Work" presentations by Shally Steckerl and name. This will reveal the email format for the company. Most of Glenn Gutmacher of Arbita ACES. This is not meant to be an the time it's first initial plus last name @, firstname.lastname@ or exhaustive set of answers to job-seeker questions, but rather firstname_lastname@ so you could just email all three and complement what was taught in the webinar about innovative whichever doesn't bounce back is the right one! online research and networking methods adapted for job search. Q: When you do a Boolean search, how do choose which item goes Job Meta-Aggregators first in the search query (job title, area code or what)? Q: Are you aware of any services (job boards, subscription A: Start with most important keywords first, least important at end services, etc.) that 'mine' jobs from companies' own employment of string. When searching for potential hiring managers, start with pages as opposed to job boards? TheLadders and company name(s), then job title(s), then any unique skill EmploymentCrossing claim to do this, but I only find job board terms/jargon, and end with geographic filters (area codes and state postings there. abbreviation). A: GetTheJob does this, as does DirectEmployers for its 300+ Q: What if you know a person's name and phone, but not what member companies. However, the sites you mentioned datamine company they work for? directly also. To maximize reach and efficiency, most employers don't list a job solely on their website. Many employer jobs are A: Try a reverse phone lookup with Argali (free download) or crossposted on various boards (our parent company pioneered the simply type the person's name on an aggregated search tool like technology to automate this in the early 1990s) so it may appear a Wink that searches profiles across most major social networks. Or job comes from a board even when the employer's site is the simply type the person's name (inside quotation marks) on a regular source. To see the most job postings, you are currently best off search engine. with job aggregator sites like Indeed, SimplyHired, Juju, etc. Remember, when your search results appear, you can set an email Q: You ran the searches related:www.altitudeinc.com and alert or RSS feed to keep getting relevant results. site:nike.com on Google. Does it impact results if you include the www or not? Q: Do you know whether and when Google and its fellow web crawlers plan to spider actual companies' employment pages? A: Yes, results will vary, sometimes significantly. For a highly important search, it's worth running the query both ways. A: First, there are technical hurdles to index dynamically- generated content (bots currently can't do that well) which is Q: How can I gather the email addresses of my Facebook 'friends' unfortunately the platform for most job databases. This caused so that I can conduct a mailing to them? Google to go in another direction for now: Get companies and job boards to facilitate it: Googlebase lets people upload jobs and A: You currently can't export friends' contact information from submit other kinds of content free, which also end up in regular Facebook. But you can search Facebook and then use the person Google search results. And most job meta-aggregators have and company name with the above-mentioned method to get their figured out how to make the jobs they collect appear in search email and/or phone. engine results. We don't know their plans, but if one can make money from spidering any kind of online content, it's just a matter Q: I realize the social networks let me target people searches of time. geographically, but how can I find people in my field in my local area who may not be on those networks? Search Methods & Obtaining Contact Information A: You could search membership rosters or post networking Q: How do you get phones or email addresses for people you find? messages within local chapters of relevant associations, user groups, etc. Find their resumes or bios via search engines (add geographic A: For phone numbers, you can call the company's main number criteria to your searches such as area code/state - e.g., (508 OR 617 (listed on their website) and ask to be transferred to [Name]. Try OR 781 OR 978) ", MA" for greater Boston). Google also allows Argali (free download) or Zabasearch for home phones. For phone zipcode range search. or email, check their social network profiles (Wink lets you find most all of them) which often list contact information. Otherwise, Q: How can I find out who in my Facebook or Twitter universe for emails, the webinar presentation mentioned the search engine works at a given company? Posting "Tom is looking for someone method, i.e., typing "Firstname Lastname" (CompanyName OR who can introduce him to the right manager at X company" seems *@companyemaildomain) but you can also try typing inefficient and whiny. What works better? Retail Value: $19.97 © 2009 http://aces.arbita.net All rights reserved. For info, contact info@arbita.net. Print reproduction strictly limited to copies for personal use and allowable only if this copyright message is left intact. Duplication, alteration, or republishing permissible only with written consent from Arbita.net. Any unauthorized distribution via print or electronic media without express permission is prohibited. All copyright infringement will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. For questions, contact: +1 (877) 293-3541 or +1 (612) 278-0000. This GuruGuide is sold as a reference for educational purposes only. Authors make no claim of association with any websites or brands/organizations mentioned in this document, other than their own. This GuruGuide is intended to facilitate the location of information on the Internet. Authors are not responsible for the content of pages found using these methods nor for sites' changes that render methods less effective.
  • 2. FAQ for Beyond Job Boards – A Job-Hunter’s GuruGuide account begin after five strikes. This can be remedied, but it's safer A: On Facebook, type the company name in the main search (top to send a mass-email via regular email with a link to your profile, right box on homepage), click the People tab in your results, then requesting they click it and connect or give their permission for you after "Show results from", select "My Networks" in the menu to make the connection. (though you'd have more results with the default "All networks"). A tool that lets you search through friends' bios only for keywords, Q: How can you filter for Open Networkers when searching? locations, etc., is TweepSearch (click Help for how-to) but again, you might want to use Twitter itself to search through everyone. A: On the Advanced Search form, Search only open network members (the checkbox beside the circle of colored blue and orange LinkedIn-related questions dots). Q: When building one's social network, should I focus on people Q: Once you find someone via social networks that you want to who know me well for my first-degree connections? approach for a job, is it best to just send a direct message and see if they will talk with you? A: No. If you worked at the same company with someone but not with them, maybe bumped into each other occasionally, they A: Yes, but first try to learn something about the person by should be made first degree connections. Same for people you looking at their profiles, their past blogposts, etc., much as you went to school with, and maybe had a class in common. You don't would prefer to research your recipient when sending a resume have to be buddies with someone to make them first degree. They so the cover letter isn't generic. How you approach matters: Be have something in common (membership in an association, etc.). succinct, think about what would intrigue the recipient, and lead First-degree should extend to them as well. with that. Don't indicate a job hunting need in the first communication. Focus on how you can help them (not your job- Q: When building one's social network (e.g., on LinkedIn), should search), a common point of interest (same industry niche, my emphasis be to add as many well-connected people as possible location, alma mater, etc.) and just a web link leading to more even though I hardly know them and they know nothing about me? detail about you A: Yes and no. It's fine to add the super-connectors who accept LinkedIn Groups connections from anyone (these so-called "Open Networkers" are people who have an icon of a ring of small blue circles next to their Q: Why should I create a group on LinkedIn? name and/or display their email address on their profiles). You can find these people in many ways, such as at TopLinked. If you A: First, it allows you to see the name and email address of want to add people in your particular industry, etc., then first reach everyone who asks to join your group, so you could save that out with a short get-to-know you communication (not a connection contact information for future outreach. Second, you can help request). shape the group's focus by inviting people in your area of interest. As the group grows, you create a network that helps Q: Is professional credibility or having something substantive in you both to find work and to enhance your career and others' common crucial when asking for introductions? even afterwards. You create goodwill that pays you back in unforeseen ways. For many more reasons, see Shally's blogpost. A: Having worked at the same company, attended the same school, member of the same association, or have any other common Q: How do I create a group on LinkedIn? interest, is sufficient to initiate an introduction. But if you want to be introduced to someone, choose the person who you think knows A: Go to LinkedIn Groups Directory search and see if another you best, would be more likely to do you a favor, and/or would give similar group exists. (If another such group is large and active, the most meaningful introduction. LinkedIn lets you pick the you may or may not want to create your own.) Click the Create person among those with a path to your target to forward the a Group button and follow the free steps. For step-by-step, see introduction through. LinkedIn's blogpost on it or this article for more detail. Q: After I use LinkedIn's Outlook contacts import, it shows Q: What is the most important factor to the success of a group hundreds of names of my contacts using LinkedIn. Should I send a on LinkedIn? mass-invitation through LinkedIn to connect? A: The level of participation. If it's not seeded with posts early A: No, because if some of those contacts are old and the recipient on, and builds in activity, it will wither and die. So don't just get clicks the "I don't know this person" button on the connection people to join. Encourage them to post news, updates, jobs, request, you get a strike against you. Certain restrictions on your respond to discussions, etc. Retail Value: $19.97 © 2009 http://aces.arbita.net All rights reserved. For info, contact info@arbita.net. Print reproduction strictly limited to copies for personal use and allowable only if this copyright message is left intact. Duplication, alteration, or republishing permissible only with written consent from Arbita.net. Any unauthorized distribution via print or electronic media without express permission is prohibited. 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