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Omaha Presbyterian
 School for Pastors
   Hastings 2012
     Session 2
Saving Job
School for Pastors

Hear our prayer for the School for
Pastors, O Lord.
School for Pastors

We pray that you may grant, in accor-
dance with the riches of your glory, that
we may be strengthened in our inner
being with power through your Spirit.
School for Pastors

We pray that you will dwell in our
hearts by faith, as we are established
and grounded in your love.
School for Pastors

We pray that we may have the power to
comprehend, with all the saints, the
breadth and length and height and
depth of your love: to know this love
that surpasses knowledge.
School for Pastors

We pray that we may be filled with all
your fullness, O God.
School for Pastors

By the power at work within us you are
able to accomplish abundantly far more
than we can ask or imagine.
School for Pastors

To you be glory in the church and in
Christ Jesus to all generations, forever
and ever. Amen.
          – from Ephesians 3:16-21
Saving Job

Job 1:1
Once there was, in the land of Uz, a
man named Job.
Saving Job

Job 1:1
Once upon a time, in the land of Uz,
there was a man named Job.
Saving Job

Job 1:1
That man was blameless and upright,
one who feared God and turned away
from evil.
Saving Job

“Nobody who believes in the doctrine
of total depravity can be all bad.”
Saving Job

The author of Job clearly does not
believe in the doctrine of universal
depravity
Saving Job

Job 1:2
There were born to him seven sons and
three daughters.
Saving Job

Job 1:3
He had seven thousand sheep, three
thousand camels, five hundred yoke of
oxen, five hundred donkeys,
Saving Job

Job 1:3
and very many servants, so that this
man was the greatest of all the people
of the east.
Saving Job

Job 1:4
His sons used to go and hold feasts in
one another’s houses in turn; and they
would send and invite their three
sisters to eat and drink with them.
Saving Job

Job 1:5
And when the feast days had run their
course, Job would send and sanctify
them,
Saving Job

Job 1:5
and he would rise early in the morning
and offer burnt offerings according to
the number of them all;
Saving Job

Job 1:5
for Job said, “It may be that my
children have sinned, and cursed God
in their hearts.”
Saving Job

Job 1:5
This is what Job always did.
Saving Job


How old are Job’s children?
Saving Job


How old are Job’s children?

  The seven sons all have houses
Saving Job


How old are Job’s children?

  The seven sons all have houses
  The three daughters do not?
Saving Job


How old are Job’s children?

If the three daughters are still at home,
they are perhaps 10 -15 years old?
Saving Job


How old are Job’s children?

If the seven sons have houses, they are
perhaps 18 - 28 years old?
Saving Job


How old are Job’s children?

Job is perhaps a grandfather?
Saving Job


How often do Job’s children have
family feasts?
Saving Job


How often do Job’s children have
family feasts?

  They rotate through 7 houses
Saving Job


How often do Job’s children have
family feasts?

  They rotate through 7 houses
  Once a month?
Saving Job


How often do Job’s children have
family feasts?

  They rotate through 7 houses
  Once a week?
Saving Job


How often do Job’s children have
family feasts?

  They rotate through 7 houses
  Every evening?
Saving Job


How often do Job’s children have
family feasts?

  They rotate through 7 houses
  There is a pattern of 7, which makes
  us think of another pattern of 7
Saving Job


How is it that Job offered burnt
offerings on behalf of his children?
Saving Job


How is it that Job offered burnt
offerings on behalf of his children?

  At the end of the cycle of 7
Saving Job


How is it that Job offered burnt
offerings on behalf of his children?

  On the Sabbath?
Saving Job


How is it that Job offered burnt
offerings on behalf of his children?

  Wait, can Job do that?
Saving Job


How is it that Job offered burnt
offerings on behalf of his children?

  Can’t just male descendants of
  Aaron offer burnt offerings?
Saving Job


How is it that Job offered burnt
offerings on behalf of his children?

  What about Korah, Dathan, and
  Abiram? (Numbers 16)
Saving Job


Who is Job?
Saving Job


Who is Isaiah?
Saving Job


Who is Isaiah?
Isaiah, son of Amoz
Saving Job


Who is David?
Saving Job


Who is David?
David, son of Jesse
Saving Job


Who is Zephaniah?
Saving Job


Who is Zephaniah?
Zephaniah son of Cushi son of
Gedaliah son of Amariah son of
Hezekiah
Saving Job


Who is Job?
Saving Job


Who is Job?
Is there a single word to tell us that Job
is descended from Aaron, ordained to
make offerings?
Saving Job


Who is Job?
Is there a single word to tell us that Job
is descended from Levi?
Saving Job


Who is Job?
Is there a single word to tell us that Job
is descended from Abraham?
Saving Job


Who is Job’s friend Eliphaz?
Saving Job


Who is Job’s friend Eliphaz?
Eliphaz the Temanite
Saving Job

Genesis 36:9
These are the descendants of Esau,
ancestor of the Edomites, in the hill
country of Seir.
Saving Job

Genesis 36:10
These are the names of Esau’s sons:
Eliphaz, son of Adah the wife of Esau;
Reuel, the son of Esau’s wife
Basemath.
Saving Job

Genesis 36:10
These are the names of Esau’s sons:
Eliphaz, son of Adah the wife of Esau;
Reuel, the son of Esau’s wife
Basemath.
Saving Job

Genesis 36:11
The sons of Eliphaz were Teman, Omar,
Zepho, Gatam, and Kenaz …
Saving Job

Genesis 36:11
The sons of Eliphaz were Teman, Omar,
Zepho, Gatam, and Kenaz …
Saving Job


Thus Teman was the grandson of Esau,
the great-grandson of Isaac, the great-
great-grandson of Abraham.
Saving Job


Teman’s father Eliphaz was cousin to
Judah, Levi, Naphtali, Joseph, and the
rest of the sons of Jacob.
Saving Job


Teman was second cousin to Ephraim
and Manasseh, the sons of Joseph.
Saving Job


So the Temanites would be the
descendants of Teman, and many
generations later a boy born in that
tribe might be named Eliphaz the
Temanite
Saving Job


Who is Job’s friend Bildad?
Saving Job


Who is Job’s friend Bildad?
Bildad the Shuhite
Saving Job

Genesis 23:1
Sarah lived one hundred twenty-seven
years; this was the length of Sarah’s
life.
Saving Job

Genesis 23:1
Sarah lived one hundred twenty-seven
years; this was the length of Sarah’s
life.

Abraham was 10 years older, so 137
Saving Job

Genesis 23:2
And Sarah died at Kiriath-arba (that is,
Hebron) in the land of Canaan …
Saving Job

Genesis 25:1
Abraham took another wife, whose
name was Keturah.
Saving Job

Genesis 25:1
Abraham took another wife, whose
name was Keturah.
Saving Job

Genesis 25:2
She bore him Zimran, Jokshan, Medan,
Midian, Ishbak, and Shuah.
Saving Job


The descendants of Midian would be
the Midianites
Saving Job


The descendants of Shuah would be
the Shuhites
Saving Job


Who is Job’s friend Zophar?
Saving Job


Who is Job’s friend Zophar?
Zophar the Naamathite
Saving Job


Alas, there seems to be no other
reference to Naamath in the Bible
Saving Job


Alas, there seems to be no other
reference to Naamath in the Bible

Scholarly research has discovered one
more-contemporary reference:
Saving Job
Saving Job


Who is Job’s friend Elihu?
Saving Job


Who is Job’s friend Elihu?
Elihu son of Barachel the Buzite
Saving Job

Genesis 22:20
Now after these things it was told
Abraham, “Milcah also has borne
children, to your brother Nahor:
Saving Job

Genesis 22:21
“Uz the firstborn, Buz his brother,
Kemuel the father of Aram, Chesed,
Hazo, Pildash, Kidlaph, and Bethuel.”
Saving Job

The descendants of Buz would be
called the Buzites
Saving Job

The land where the descendants of Uz
lived might end up being called Uz
Saving Job

The land where the descendants of
Midian lived might end up being called
Midian
Saving Job

The land where the descendants of
Canaan lived might end up being called
Canaan
Saving Job

The land where the descendants of
Israel lived might end up being called
Israel
Saving Job

Job lives in a place, Uz, that has the
same name as one of Abraham’s
nephews.
Saving Job

Job’s friend Elihu is descended from
someone, Buz, who has the same name
as another of Abraham’s nephews.
Saving Job

Job’s friend Bildad is descended from
someone, Shuah, who has the same
name as Abraham’s sixth son by
Keturah.
Saving Job

Job’s friend Eliphaz is descended from
someone, Teman, who has the same
name as the grandson of Abraham’s
grandson Esau.
Saving Job

The story of Job and friends is about
people who are distantly related to “us”
– they are our cousins, but not in the
direct Abraham - Isaac - Jacob line
Saving Job

When would the people of Israel
compose and compile, perform and
treasure a story like Job?
Saving Job

Time of the Patriarchs
   ca 1900 – 1800 BC




Time of the Exodus
   ca 1350 BC
Saving Job

Time of the Patriarchs
   ca 1900 – 1800 BC

Where are the stories
 from this in-between time?

Time of the Exodus
   ca 1350 BC
Saving Job

Time of the Patriarchs
   ca 1900 – 1800 BC

The midwives Shiphrah & Puah
  (Exodus 1)

Time of the Exodus
   ca 1350 BC
Saving Job

Time of the Patriarchs
   ca 1900 – 1800 BC

Generations who taught their children
  God was faithful

Time of the Exodus
   ca 1350 BC
Saving Job

Time of the Patriarchs
   ca 1900 – 1800 BC

Generations who taught their children
  God would redeem them

Time of the Exodus
   ca 1350 BC
Saving Job

Time of the Patriarchs
   ca 1900 – 1800 BC

Generations who taught their children
  God had not forgotten them

Time of the Exodus
   ca 1350 BC
Saving Job

Time of the Patriarchs
   ca 1900 – 1800 BC

Generations who taught their children
  to believe: despite appearances

Time of the Exodus
   ca 1350 BC
Saving Job

Time of the Patriarchs
   ca 1900 – 1800 BC

Generations suffering in painful
  bondage, but still believing

Time of the Exodus
   ca 1350 BC
Saving Job

Time of the Patriarchs
   ca 1900 – 1800 BC

Generations suffering because
  God was silent

Time of the Exodus
   ca 1350 BC
Saving Job

Time of the Patriarchs
   ca 1900 – 1800 BC

Generations suffering in fear that
  it might be all their fault

Time of the Exodus
   ca 1350 BC
Saving Job

Time of the Patriarchs
   ca 1900 – 1800 BC

Generations that needed to hear
  a story like Job

Time of the Exodus
   ca 1350 BC
Saving Job

Job 1:8
The Lord said to the Satan, “Have you
considered my servant Job?
Saving Job

Job 1:8
“There is no one like him on the earth,
a blameless and upright man who fears
God and turns away from evil.”
Saving Job

Job 1:9
Then the Satan answered the Lord,
“Does Job fear God for nothing?
Saving Job

Job 1:10
“Have you not put a fence around him
and his house and all that he has, on
every side?
Saving Job

Job 1:10
“You have blessed the work of his
hands, and his possessions have
increased in the land.
Saving Job

Job 1:11
“But stretch out your hand now, and
touch all that he has, and he will curse
you to your face.”
Saving Job

Job 1:12
The Lord said to the Satan, “Very well,
all that he has is in your power; only do
not stretch out your hand against him.”
Saving Job


The book of Job turns on the fact that
God and the Satan have a bet going
Saving Job

The book of Job, Theory 1:
A poetical exploration of the Problem of
Evil; the narrative in chapters 1-2 and
42 is a later addition by an editor who
didn’t get the point of the poetry.
Saving Job
Saving Job

The book of Job, Theory 2:
A narrative exploration of the Problem
of God and Humanity;
Saving Job

The book of Job, Theory 2:
(most of) the poetry in chapters 3-41 is
a rhetorical device, pointing in the
wrong direction to build suspense
Saving Job

Job 3:23
Why is light given to one who cannot
see the way, whom God has fenced in?
Saving Job

Job 4:8-9
Those who plow iniquity and sow
trouble reap the same. By the breath of
God they perish.
Saving Job

Job 12:1-2
Then Job answered, “No doubt you are
the people, and wisdom will die with
you.”
Saving Job

Job 5-37

Et cetera, et cetera …
Saving Job

Job 30:18
With violence God seizes my garment;
he grasps me by the collar of my tunic.
Saving Job

Job 30:19
He has cast me into the mire, and I
have become like dust and ashes.
Saving Job

Job 30:20
I cry to you and you do not answer me;
I stand, and you merely look at me.
Saving Job

Job 30:21
You have turned cruel to me; with the
might of your hand you persecute me.
Saving Job

The children of Israel, suffering in
slavery in Egypt, could say that:
Saving Job

The children of Israel, suffering in
slavery in Egypt, could say that:
You have turned cruel to me; with the
might of your hand you persecute me.
Saving Job

The children of Israel, suffering in
slavery in Egypt, could say that:
I cry to you and you do not answer me;
I stand, and you merely look at me.
Saving Job

The children of Israel, suffering in
slavery in Egypt, could say that:
He has cast me into the mire, and I
have become like dust and ashes.
Saving Job

The children of Israel would identify
with Job’s feeling of being cast off: I’m
nothing more than dust and ashes,
blown away by God
Saving Job

What if the book of Job ended here?
Saving Job

Job 38:1
Then the Lord answered Job out of the
whirlwind:
Saving Job

Job 38:2
“Who is this that darkens counsel by
words without knowledge?
Saving Job

Job 38:3
“Gird up your loins like a man, I will
question you, and you shall declare to
me.
Saving Job

Job 38:4
“Where were you when I laid the
foundations of the earth …
Saving Job

Job 38:5 – 39:30
Saving Job

Job 38:5 – 39:30
The natural order is way cool.
Saving Job

Job 38:5 – 39:30
The natural order is way cool.
Look at the constellations!
Saving Job

Job 38:5 – 39:30
The natural order is way cool.
Look at the constellations!
How ’bout them mountain goats?
Saving Job

Job 38:5 – 39:30
The natural order is way cool.
Look at the constellations!
How ’bout them mountain goats?
Ostriches, horses, and hawks, oh my!
Saving Job

Job 40:1
And the Lord said to Job:
Saving Job

Job 40:2
“Shall a faultfinder contend with the
Almighty? Anyone who argues with
God must respond.”
Saving Job

Job 40:3
Then Job answered the Lord:
Saving Job

Job 40:4
“Oops.”
Saving Job

Job 40:4
“See, I am of small account; what shall
I answer you? I lay my hand upon my
mouth.
Saving Job

Job 40:5
“I have spoken once, and I will not
answer; twice, but will proceed no
further.”
Saving Job

Job 40:5
“I have spoken once, and I will not
answer; twice, but will proceed no
further.”

What if the book of Job ended here?
Saving Job

Job 40:6
Then the Lord answered Job out of the
whirlwind:
Saving Job

Job 40:7
“Gird up your loins like a man; I will
question you, and you will declare to
me.
Saving Job

Job: I won’t speak up again
Saving Job

Job: I won’t speak up again

God: Oh yes you will
Saving Job

Job 40:7
“Gird up your loins like a man; I will
question you, and you will declare to
me.
Saving Job

Part of the essence of humanity is to do
question-and-answer with God
Saving Job

Job’s intention to keep silent before
God gets firmly rebuked:
“Gird up your loins like a man; I will
question you, and you will declare to
me.
Saving Job

Job 40:8
“Will you even put me in the wrong?
Will you condemn me that you may be
justified?
Saving Job

Job 40:9
“Have you an arm like God, and can
you thunder with a voice like his?
Saving Job

Job 40:10
“Deck yourself with majesty and
dignity; clothe yourself with glory and
splendor.
Saving Job

Job 40:11
“Pour out the overflowings of your
anger, and look on all who are proud,
and abase them.
Saving Job

Job 40:12
“Look on all who are proud, and bring
them low; tread down the wicked where
they stand.
Saving Job

Job 40:13
“Hide them all in the dust together;
bind their faces in the world below.
Saving Job

Job 40:14
“Then I will also acknowledge to you
that your own right hand can give you
victory.
Saving Job

You think if you were God, you could
solve all the world’s problems
Saving Job

You think if you were God, you could
just apply your omnipotence and do it
Saving Job

Well, why don’t you just try to apply
your omnipotence and do it
Saving Job

Oh, that’s right, you don’t actually have
the omnipotence to do it
Saving Job

And actually, omnipotence isn’t all it’s
cracked up to be
Saving Job

Being omnipotent doesn’t mean you
can do just anything, you know
Saving Job

If the idea is to create the Pleiades or
snow or oceans, that’s easy enough
Saving Job

If the idea is to cast down the wicked
and destroy them, that’s easy enough
Saving Job

But there are some problems that no
amount of power can solve
Saving Job

If the book of Job is about the Problem
of Evil, omnipotence could destroy evil
Saving Job

The cost is high: to destroy all evil
would be to destroy all humanity
Saving Job

If the book of Job is about the Problem
of God and Humanity, omnipotence
won’t solve that problem
Saving Job

If the book of Job is about the Problem
of God and Humanity, that problem
won’t be “solved”
Saving Job

If the book of Job is about the Problem
of God and Humanity, it’s a relationship
that involves asking and answering
questions
Saving Job

Job 42:1
Then Job answered the Lord:
Saving Job

Job 42:2
“I know that you can do all things, and
that no purpose of yours can be
thwarted.
Saving Job

Job 42:3
“[You asked,] ‘Who is this that hides
counsel without knowledge?’
Saving Job

Job 42:3
“Indeed, I have uttered what I did not
understand, things too wonderful for
me, which I did not know.
Saving Job

Job 42:4
“[You said,] ‘Hear, and I will speak; I
will question you, and you declare to
me.’
Saving Job

Job 42:5
“I had heard of you by the hearing of
the ear, but now my eye sees you;
Saving Job

Job 42:6
“therefore I despise myself and repent
in dust and ashes.”
Saving Job

What does it mean, if Job now despises
himself and repents in dust and ashes?
Saving Job

Job 42:6
“therefore I retract; I repent dust and
ashes.”
Saving Job

Job 42:6
“therefore I retract; I repent [in] dust
and ashes.”
Saving Job

Job 42:6
“therefore I retract; I repent [of] dust
and ashes.”
Saving Job

Job 42:6
“therefore I take back what I said
before; I change my mind about ‘dust
and ashes.’ ”
Saving Job

Job 30:19
The relationship between God and a
human like me is this: I am nothing but
dust and ashes, blown away by God
Saving Job

Job 42:6
I retract my previous analysis; I’ve
changed my mind about ‘humans are
nothing more than dust and ashes’
Saving Job

One of the stories we remember from
the heritage of Israel:
To be human isn’t simply to be silent in
the face of God’s inscrutable power.
                              Job 40:4-5
Saving Job

One of the stories we remember from
the heritage of Israel:
To be human is to be called into
conversation with God.
                               Job 40:7
Saving Job

One of the stories we remember from
the heritage of Israel:
No matter how much distress the Satan
might create, God is betting on Job.
                              Job 1:8-12
Saving Job

One of the stories we remember from
the heritage of Israel:
In the end God will restore all things.
                            Job 42:10-17
Saving Job

One of the stories we remember from
the heritage of Israel:
Job’s prayers will save Eliphaz, Bildad,
and Zophar, even though they had
misunderstood the ways of God.
                              Job 42:7-9
Saving Job

One of the stories we remember from
the heritage of Israel:
We are not just dust and ashes.
                               Job 42:6
Saving Job

Deep in their time of bondage in Egypt,
this is a message that would have
resonated with the people of Israel
Saving Job

God is betting that we will be faithful,
despite all the trials and suffering we
experience
Saving Job

We are invited to be deep in question-
and-answer with God: to be fully
human is to interact with God about our
hardest situations
Saving Job

And someday – someday! – we will see
that all things will be restored.
Saving Job

And in the meantime, perhaps our
prayers will save those who have never
quite understood.
Saving Job

What do we learn, about God and about
ourselves, from hearing the story of
God betting on Job?
Saving Job

What do we learn, about God and about
ourselves, from the story of Job
learning he isn’t just dust and ashes,
he’s God’s conversation partner?

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