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THE MARSHBERRY LETTER
   Volume XXVIII, Number 2                                                                      February, 2012

Understanding the Sales                 person who doesn’t recognize            cies are not as likely to provide
Process                                 an insurance need, doesn’t have         their producers with pre-estab-
                                        the resources or decision power,        lished / pre-qualified lead lists.
Do you have a well-defined,             has no sense of urgency, may
successful sales process that           or may not be engaged, or has           Forum
consistently wins you business?         a decision date that falls outside      After you have found the suspect,
Do you know what steps you              your typical sales cycle. Con-          you need to approach the oppor-
took in the past that made you          versely, a prospect agrees to           tunity. This is the “forum” stage in
successful? Or on the con-              work with you to find a solution,       the model. There are six levels in
trary, when you didn’t win the          has a high probability of closing,      the forum stage:
business, do you know where             fits your profile of a client, and is
there was a breakdown? Most             an individual with decision mak-         1. Cold calls and drop-ins
successful producers have a             ing power. In most cases, agen-          2. Drop-off / follow-up and drip
formalized and deliberate sales         cies with a clearly defined sales           method
process or strategy they consis-        process will also place heavy            3. Associations
tently follow which is the founda-      emphasis on the new business
tion to their continuous success.                                                4. Introductions via phone or email
                                        appointment and use this step to
This article articulates a fun-         differentiate between suspects           5. Building the bridge through
damental and consistent sales           and prospects. There are a num-             social networking
process which, when applied,            ber of ways to find new suspects         6. Introductions in person / referrals
can help producers consistently         and prospects. Technology is
exceed sales goals.                                                              7. Cross-selling
                                        progressing at such a fast pace
Suspecting                              that most people use the internet       1. Cold calls and drop-ins:
                                        to generate suspects. There are
In all sales processes, suspect-        many websites that are great            This is the most impersonal sus-
ing is the first step (see Figure 1     to research valuable informa-           pecting method and typically the
below for entire sales process).        tion such as SIC code, number           most ineffective method, but is a
Before discussing suspecting, it        of employees, industry type,            great way to expose producers
is important to define the differ-      geographic location, contact            to potential buyers’ objections.
ence between a suspect and a            information, and in some cases,         Experience from overcoming these
prospect. In terms of pipeline          decision dates. Figure 2 (Page          objections will lead to a more pol-
management, a suspect is a              2) shows that high-growth agen-         ished sales approach in the future.


                                      Figure 1 - A Successful Sales Process



                                      Establish          Identify        Determine
  Suspecting            Forum                                                            Present              Close
                                      Credibility         Needs          Solutions




 The MarshBerry Letter                                  Page 1                                      February, 2012
2. Drop-off / follow-up and          3. Associations:                         5. Social Networking:
drip method:
                                     Joining an association is a low cost,    Some popular social media
The drop-off/follow up, drip         easy and effective suspecting forum.     channels used today are Linke-
method and associations,             Get active in local associations to      dIn, Facebook, Google Places,
involves dropping off an item        meet suspects and become known           Twitter and Meetup.com.
for the decision maker and fol-      within your community. Joining an        LinkedIn is probably the most
lowing up at a later date. The       association helps build the relation-    business-to-business oriented
item can be anything to start a      ship through common interests.           social media networking used
conversation such as a book          Just be sure to only join associations   today. These channels allow for
to read or an article from a         that truly have members that are         warm introduction through brand
magazine. The drip method is         potential opportunities.                 building. Social media also
a technique used to establish                                                 makes it easy for people to iden-
                                     4. Introductions Via Phone or Email:
underlying dialogue before                                                    tify what associations potential
actually calling or meeting          Potential clients usually decide early   clients are actively involved in.
someone. A common example            in the sales process whether or not
                                                                              6. Introductions in Person:
is emailing a suspect a monthly      they will ever buy from you. With a
newsletter or articles you find in   strong introduction, suspects do not     As opposed to level three of
newspapers. It is much easier        make an objective evaluation, but        introductions via phone or email,
to get a suspect engaged if they     rather look to validate what your        your introduction source accom-
perceive you as an expert.           introduction source said about you.      panies you on the meeting to
                                                                              your potential client. The intro-
                                                                              duction is commonly a lunch or
             Figure 2                              Figure 3                   dinner. This goes much deeper
    Percentage of Agencies                 Percentage of Agencies             than a simple referral.
     that provide producers                 that have established             7. Cross-Selling:
     with a pre-established /            internal cross-sell / referral
    pre-qualified list of leads           goals between production            This is a form of introduc-
          or prospects                        lines of business               tion where another producer
                                                                              introduces you to the prospect
   30%                                    40%                                 through the relationship already
                                                                              built. The credibility stage in the
                                          35%                                 sales process is easier to pass
   25%                                                            37%         through since your colleague has
              27%
                                          30%                                 already built the rapport with the
                                                                              client. We refer to cross-selling
   20%                                               30%
                                          25%
                                                                              as “sofa money.” The money in
                                                                              the sofas is there for the taking,
                                                                              but people don’t seem to care.
   15%                                    20%
                          17%                                                 Similarly, we find there are a lot
                                                                              of cross-selling opportunities
                                          15%
   10%                                                                        that have yet to be exposed.
                                                                              The usual excuse for producers
                                          10%
                                                                              not selling an all-encompassing
    5%                                                                        insurance solution to their client
                                           5%                                 is because of their limited knowl-
                                                                              edge outside their core product
    0%                                     0%                                 expertise. Another common
         Average       High-Growth              Average        High-Growth    breakdown to successful cross-
         Agencies      Agencies                 Agencies       Agencies
                                                                              selling is the insecurity of hurting


 The MarshBerry Letter                                Page 2                                  February, 2012
existing producer-client relation-       obvious pains is a proven tactic                  Figure 4
ships by bringing in an organi-          for getting prospects to divulge          Decision Maker Concerns
zational counterpart. However,           what they expect out of their
cross-selling remains a successful       trusted advisor. Asking ques-
technique (see Figure 3, Page 2)         tions like “So if your current bro-
when an effective communication          ker is a 10 out of 10, they must                   CEO / Owner
and education process is involved.       be providing you with a customer             Increased Company Value
                                         perceived value-added service                      Reduced Cost
Establishing Credibility                                                                     More Profit
                                         timeline. How often does your
The next step in our sales process       broker sit down and review the
is establishing credibility, which       timeline with you?” Always ask              CFO
we see as the most difficult of the      open ended questions and let           Lower Unit Cost
                                                                                                       HR Department
sales steps to overcome. It takes        the customer answer. “What do            Cash Flow                Service
time to build credibility, yet seconds   you really like about your current       More Profit             Reliability
to destroy it. The potential client      program or what do you dislike        Coverage Liability        Time Saving
will quickly dismiss you if you have     about your current program?”
not gained their trust or positioned     Remember to look beyond price.
yourself as an industry expert.          You need to be competitive, but
Branding yourself through public         for now you want additional value       roof, offering preferred pricing
speaking and published industry          to be realized by the prospect.         and coverage by having market
news is one of the most common           Don’t just be a quoting machine.        control with premium carriers, or
ways to get your name in front of        Always be conscious of the deci-        that your firm employs a full-
a large number of opportunities. A       sion maker. A CEO or owner will         time safety advisor that allows
relatively easy and successful tech-     be concerned about increasing           for more consistent renewal
nique is writing a monthly newslet-      company value, reducing costs,          for your clients, always relate
ter specific to the industry being       increasing profits and improving        your solutions back to the “So
targeted. It can be sent out via         processes of the organization.          what?” mentality. “So what if
mass email or hard copies. Your          CFOs are typically concerned            your agency is local?” “So what
target audience should be able to        with lower unit costs, cash flow,       if you have been around for 150
relate to your subject matter in the     increasing profit or coverage           years?” How is that a solution
article. Become a trusted advisor        liability. The HR department            to your client’s needs? A few
through building credibility from        tends to focus on service, reli-        examples of how your agency
actively participating in your chosen    ability and supporting his or her       can provide solutions to build
associations or other networking         team. Figure 4 shows a simpli-          client’s perceived value are:
groups. The most effective way to        fied breakdown of the various
                                                                                 ♦ Risk assessment
establish credibility is to leverage     decision maker concerns.
                                                                                   questionnaires and
a referral with an existing relation-                                              preliminary inspections to
                                         Determine Solutions
ship. As mentioned previously, a                                                   evaluate the company’s
personal introduction to an oppor-       After finding out the prospect’s          risks and possible gaps in
tunity is much more valuable than        needs, the next step in the sales         coverage, if the incumbent
someone just giving you a name.          model is to find solutions to those       doesn’t already do this.
                                         needs. If there is a market for
Identify Needs                                                                   ♦ Insurance coverage analysis
                                         the risk, communicate the next
                                         steps for providing the solution          and benchmarking study to
Once you have established cred-
                                         and ask the prospect to confirm           compare the client to other
ibility with the decision maker, they
                                         that you are solving their needs.         companies in their industry.
should be more forthright with
                                         This is a very effective tactic           This is a great benefit for
their organizational needs. Infer-
                                         used by successful sales people.          the client to know if he is
ring needs from prior clients in the
                                         Whether it be consolidating all           attracting top talent in his
same industry is a successful tactic
                                         their insurance needs under one           industry.
to probe their needs. Also, finding


  The MarshBerry Letter                              Page 3                                         February, 2012
♦ An agency offered                     business goals. It is effective to        close is the penultimate event;
  comprehensive inspection              recap the prospect’s business             the final event is actually deliver-
  followed by an accident               issues and how your plan solves           ing the products and services
  prevention seminar to reduce          those concerns. Speak the cus-            that will make them successful.
  accidents, as moving carriers         tomer’s language. If you confuse
                                                                                  If you ever feel like the potential
  no longer impacts consistent          them with insurance jargon they
                                                                                  sale is steering the wrong way,
  risk management.                      aren’t familiar with, it may over-
                                                                                  it probably is. Maintain control
♦ A professional claims                 whelm them and they will lose
                                                                                  of your sales process by getting
  management staff that turns           interest. Convince your prospect
                                                                                  back on course. If the prospect
  claims around two-times faster,       that you are a trusted advisor
                                                                                  tells you just to give them a
  allowing the client to re-open        and ensure that their particular
                                                                                  quote, then you evidently haven’t
  for business faster.                  emotional requirements are met.
                                                                                  established credibility and they
♦ Continuous risk monitoring            Closing                                   do not see your value. You need
  during coverage to reduce                                                       to jump back to the credibility
                                        The close occurs when the
  claim exposure, thus providing                                                  stage and differentiate why you
                                        prospect agrees to buy. If you
  for a more consistent renewal.                                                  are not just a quoting machine.
                                        do not close sales, you are
                                                                                  Control your sales process and
                                        just a professional visitor. Get
Presentation to Prospect                                                          you will become a more consis-
                                        commitment with regard to your
                                                                                  tent, successful sales person.
It is now time to deliver what has      solutions and realize when the
been agreed to and what has             potential customer is ready to            Justin Berry is Vice President of Sales
been promised to the prospect.          buy. Do not be afraid to ask for          Management at MarshBerry and can
We recommend holding the meet-          the business at this point. If they       be contacted at 440-220-5431 or
ing at your offices so you can          do not agree to buy, you have             Justin.Berry@MarshBerry.com.
introduce your team and their rel-      not uncovered all of their needs.         Jim Wochele is a Sales Management
ative functions on that prospect’s      Position yourself as a trusted            Analyst at MarshBerry and can be
account. When presenting, show          advisor which comes with a                contacted at 440-392-6559 or
your prospects how your solutions       long-term and mutually beneficial         Jim.Wochele@MarshBerry.com.
will help them achieve their key        relationship. Remember that the


           Don’t Forget to Participate in the Insurance Agency Compensation Survey
    Compensation typically represents the largest expense of an agency. Thus, it is no surprise that compensa-
    tion questions are among the most frequently asked questions to the MarshBerry staff. While compensation
    structures vary from agency to agency, we can identify trends and changes in compensation over time.

    MarshBerry is currently conducting the 2012 Insurance Agency Compensation Survey, which was included
    with your January, 2012 issue of The MarshBerry Letter. Your participation is greatly appreciated. The more
    responses we get, the better the information will be for all of us to use in evaluating current compensation
    programs. Please go to www.MarshBerry.com for the links to download or complete the survey directly at
    www.SurveyMonkey.com/s/9ZVKRCW.
    If you have any questions, please call 440-392-6553 or email Megan@MarshBerry.com. The submission
    deadline is February 29, 2012. The results of the Compensation Survey will be published in the April 2012
    issue of The MarshBerry Letter. Thank you in advance for your help with this very important endeavor.




                                              The MarshBerry Letter © 2012
                                              Marsh, Berry & Company, Inc.
                                              (440) 354-3230 / (800) 426-2774
                                              4420 Sherwin Road / Willoughby, OH 44094
                                              MarshBerry@MarshBerry.com
                                              www.MarshBerry.com

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Understanding A Sales Process

  • 1. THE MARSHBERRY LETTER Volume XXVIII, Number 2 February, 2012 Understanding the Sales person who doesn’t recognize cies are not as likely to provide Process an insurance need, doesn’t have their producers with pre-estab- the resources or decision power, lished / pre-qualified lead lists. Do you have a well-defined, has no sense of urgency, may successful sales process that or may not be engaged, or has Forum consistently wins you business? a decision date that falls outside After you have found the suspect, Do you know what steps you your typical sales cycle. Con- you need to approach the oppor- took in the past that made you versely, a prospect agrees to tunity. This is the “forum” stage in successful? Or on the con- work with you to find a solution, the model. There are six levels in trary, when you didn’t win the has a high probability of closing, the forum stage: business, do you know where fits your profile of a client, and is there was a breakdown? Most an individual with decision mak- 1. Cold calls and drop-ins successful producers have a ing power. In most cases, agen- 2. Drop-off / follow-up and drip formalized and deliberate sales cies with a clearly defined sales method process or strategy they consis- process will also place heavy 3. Associations tently follow which is the founda- emphasis on the new business tion to their continuous success. 4. Introductions via phone or email appointment and use this step to This article articulates a fun- differentiate between suspects 5. Building the bridge through damental and consistent sales and prospects. There are a num- social networking process which, when applied, ber of ways to find new suspects 6. Introductions in person / referrals can help producers consistently and prospects. Technology is exceed sales goals. 7. Cross-selling progressing at such a fast pace Suspecting that most people use the internet 1. Cold calls and drop-ins: to generate suspects. There are In all sales processes, suspect- many websites that are great This is the most impersonal sus- ing is the first step (see Figure 1 to research valuable informa- pecting method and typically the below for entire sales process). tion such as SIC code, number most ineffective method, but is a Before discussing suspecting, it of employees, industry type, great way to expose producers is important to define the differ- geographic location, contact to potential buyers’ objections. ence between a suspect and a information, and in some cases, Experience from overcoming these prospect. In terms of pipeline decision dates. Figure 2 (Page objections will lead to a more pol- management, a suspect is a 2) shows that high-growth agen- ished sales approach in the future. Figure 1 - A Successful Sales Process Establish Identify Determine Suspecting Forum Present Close Credibility Needs Solutions The MarshBerry Letter Page 1 February, 2012
  • 2. 2. Drop-off / follow-up and 3. Associations: 5. Social Networking: drip method: Joining an association is a low cost, Some popular social media The drop-off/follow up, drip easy and effective suspecting forum. channels used today are Linke- method and associations, Get active in local associations to dIn, Facebook, Google Places, involves dropping off an item meet suspects and become known Twitter and Meetup.com. for the decision maker and fol- within your community. Joining an LinkedIn is probably the most lowing up at a later date. The association helps build the relation- business-to-business oriented item can be anything to start a ship through common interests. social media networking used conversation such as a book Just be sure to only join associations today. These channels allow for to read or an article from a that truly have members that are warm introduction through brand magazine. The drip method is potential opportunities. building. Social media also a technique used to establish makes it easy for people to iden- 4. Introductions Via Phone or Email: underlying dialogue before tify what associations potential actually calling or meeting Potential clients usually decide early clients are actively involved in. someone. A common example in the sales process whether or not 6. Introductions in Person: is emailing a suspect a monthly they will ever buy from you. With a newsletter or articles you find in strong introduction, suspects do not As opposed to level three of newspapers. It is much easier make an objective evaluation, but introductions via phone or email, to get a suspect engaged if they rather look to validate what your your introduction source accom- perceive you as an expert. introduction source said about you. panies you on the meeting to your potential client. The intro- duction is commonly a lunch or Figure 2 Figure 3 dinner. This goes much deeper Percentage of Agencies Percentage of Agencies than a simple referral. that provide producers that have established 7. Cross-Selling: with a pre-established / internal cross-sell / referral pre-qualified list of leads goals between production This is a form of introduc- or prospects lines of business tion where another producer introduces you to the prospect 30% 40% through the relationship already built. The credibility stage in the 35% sales process is easier to pass 25% 37% through since your colleague has 27% 30% already built the rapport with the client. We refer to cross-selling 20% 30% 25% as “sofa money.” The money in the sofas is there for the taking, but people don’t seem to care. 15% 20% 17% Similarly, we find there are a lot of cross-selling opportunities 15% 10% that have yet to be exposed. The usual excuse for producers 10% not selling an all-encompassing 5% insurance solution to their client 5% is because of their limited knowl- edge outside their core product 0% 0% expertise. Another common Average High-Growth Average High-Growth breakdown to successful cross- Agencies Agencies Agencies Agencies selling is the insecurity of hurting The MarshBerry Letter Page 2 February, 2012
  • 3. existing producer-client relation- obvious pains is a proven tactic Figure 4 ships by bringing in an organi- for getting prospects to divulge Decision Maker Concerns zational counterpart. However, what they expect out of their cross-selling remains a successful trusted advisor. Asking ques- technique (see Figure 3, Page 2) tions like “So if your current bro- when an effective communication ker is a 10 out of 10, they must CEO / Owner and education process is involved. be providing you with a customer Increased Company Value perceived value-added service Reduced Cost Establishing Credibility More Profit timeline. How often does your The next step in our sales process broker sit down and review the is establishing credibility, which timeline with you?” Always ask CFO we see as the most difficult of the open ended questions and let Lower Unit Cost HR Department sales steps to overcome. It takes the customer answer. “What do Cash Flow Service time to build credibility, yet seconds you really like about your current More Profit Reliability to destroy it. The potential client program or what do you dislike Coverage Liability Time Saving will quickly dismiss you if you have about your current program?” not gained their trust or positioned Remember to look beyond price. yourself as an industry expert. You need to be competitive, but Branding yourself through public for now you want additional value roof, offering preferred pricing speaking and published industry to be realized by the prospect. and coverage by having market news is one of the most common Don’t just be a quoting machine. control with premium carriers, or ways to get your name in front of Always be conscious of the deci- that your firm employs a full- a large number of opportunities. A sion maker. A CEO or owner will time safety advisor that allows relatively easy and successful tech- be concerned about increasing for more consistent renewal nique is writing a monthly newslet- company value, reducing costs, for your clients, always relate ter specific to the industry being increasing profits and improving your solutions back to the “So targeted. It can be sent out via processes of the organization. what?” mentality. “So what if mass email or hard copies. Your CFOs are typically concerned your agency is local?” “So what target audience should be able to with lower unit costs, cash flow, if you have been around for 150 relate to your subject matter in the increasing profit or coverage years?” How is that a solution article. Become a trusted advisor liability. The HR department to your client’s needs? A few through building credibility from tends to focus on service, reli- examples of how your agency actively participating in your chosen ability and supporting his or her can provide solutions to build associations or other networking team. Figure 4 shows a simpli- client’s perceived value are: groups. The most effective way to fied breakdown of the various ♦ Risk assessment establish credibility is to leverage decision maker concerns. questionnaires and a referral with an existing relation- preliminary inspections to Determine Solutions ship. As mentioned previously, a evaluate the company’s personal introduction to an oppor- After finding out the prospect’s risks and possible gaps in tunity is much more valuable than needs, the next step in the sales coverage, if the incumbent someone just giving you a name. model is to find solutions to those doesn’t already do this. needs. If there is a market for Identify Needs ♦ Insurance coverage analysis the risk, communicate the next steps for providing the solution and benchmarking study to Once you have established cred- and ask the prospect to confirm compare the client to other ibility with the decision maker, they that you are solving their needs. companies in their industry. should be more forthright with This is a very effective tactic This is a great benefit for their organizational needs. Infer- used by successful sales people. the client to know if he is ring needs from prior clients in the Whether it be consolidating all attracting top talent in his same industry is a successful tactic their insurance needs under one industry. to probe their needs. Also, finding The MarshBerry Letter Page 3 February, 2012
  • 4. ♦ An agency offered business goals. It is effective to close is the penultimate event; comprehensive inspection recap the prospect’s business the final event is actually deliver- followed by an accident issues and how your plan solves ing the products and services prevention seminar to reduce those concerns. Speak the cus- that will make them successful. accidents, as moving carriers tomer’s language. If you confuse If you ever feel like the potential no longer impacts consistent them with insurance jargon they sale is steering the wrong way, risk management. aren’t familiar with, it may over- it probably is. Maintain control ♦ A professional claims whelm them and they will lose of your sales process by getting management staff that turns interest. Convince your prospect back on course. If the prospect claims around two-times faster, that you are a trusted advisor tells you just to give them a allowing the client to re-open and ensure that their particular quote, then you evidently haven’t for business faster. emotional requirements are met. established credibility and they ♦ Continuous risk monitoring Closing do not see your value. You need during coverage to reduce to jump back to the credibility The close occurs when the claim exposure, thus providing stage and differentiate why you prospect agrees to buy. If you for a more consistent renewal. are not just a quoting machine. do not close sales, you are Control your sales process and just a professional visitor. Get Presentation to Prospect you will become a more consis- commitment with regard to your tent, successful sales person. It is now time to deliver what has solutions and realize when the been agreed to and what has potential customer is ready to Justin Berry is Vice President of Sales been promised to the prospect. buy. Do not be afraid to ask for Management at MarshBerry and can We recommend holding the meet- the business at this point. If they be contacted at 440-220-5431 or ing at your offices so you can do not agree to buy, you have Justin.Berry@MarshBerry.com. introduce your team and their rel- not uncovered all of their needs. Jim Wochele is a Sales Management ative functions on that prospect’s Position yourself as a trusted Analyst at MarshBerry and can be account. When presenting, show advisor which comes with a contacted at 440-392-6559 or your prospects how your solutions long-term and mutually beneficial Jim.Wochele@MarshBerry.com. will help them achieve their key relationship. Remember that the Don’t Forget to Participate in the Insurance Agency Compensation Survey Compensation typically represents the largest expense of an agency. Thus, it is no surprise that compensa- tion questions are among the most frequently asked questions to the MarshBerry staff. While compensation structures vary from agency to agency, we can identify trends and changes in compensation over time. MarshBerry is currently conducting the 2012 Insurance Agency Compensation Survey, which was included with your January, 2012 issue of The MarshBerry Letter. Your participation is greatly appreciated. The more responses we get, the better the information will be for all of us to use in evaluating current compensation programs. Please go to www.MarshBerry.com for the links to download or complete the survey directly at www.SurveyMonkey.com/s/9ZVKRCW. If you have any questions, please call 440-392-6553 or email Megan@MarshBerry.com. The submission deadline is February 29, 2012. The results of the Compensation Survey will be published in the April 2012 issue of The MarshBerry Letter. Thank you in advance for your help with this very important endeavor. The MarshBerry Letter © 2012 Marsh, Berry & Company, Inc. (440) 354-3230 / (800) 426-2774 4420 Sherwin Road / Willoughby, OH 44094 MarshBerry@MarshBerry.com www.MarshBerry.com