This is a keynote I gave at Traveling Vineyard's 2014 Harvest conference in order to help their top 150 Wine Guides understand how to build their businesses on meaning and purpose. The talk includes a narrated journey about the approach that Mack Web uses to build better businesses through community and passion.
2. @MACKFOGELSON
Life looked a whole lot different before I had two of these.
These are my kids: Ryan and Easton.
3. Ryan
Sabrina
6
@MACKFOGELSON
Ryan is 6. She’s about to start first grade. She can swim in the deep end and read
chapter books. She’s a little CEO in the making.
4. Easton
James
3.95
@MACKFOGELSON
And this is Eason. He’s almost 4. As of this spring, he can ride a big boy bike without
training wheels. Just this week he’s decided that Spider Man is in fact an actual
profession and that’s what he’s gonna be when he grows up.
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There were no Cheerios to vacuum out of my car. (I don’t care who you are. If you’re
a mom, you have Cheerios in your car).
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There was no pressure getting dinner on the table because Easton’s hungry and
cranky and a severe meltdown is brewing.
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No sleepless nights because Ryan’s in the bathroom puking every 45 minutes. No
cleaning poop stains out of underwear because their arms aren’t long enough to
wipe properly. No packing lunches at the end of a 14 hour day where I just want to
sit on the couch and have a glass of wine.
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There was no having to ask 300 times if Easton would please just put his pants on so
that I could possibly make it to work before this time tomorrow.
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But over the last 6 years, and in the midst of going through all of these glamorous
and wonderful things that they never tell you about before you actually become a
parent, something happened. I just started to feel like life was accelerating at an
incredible pace and I wanted to make the most of it.
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And so, two and a half years ago, we made a change. Instead of building websites, we
wanted to help businesses put meaning ahead of money. We wanted to help these
companies focus first on their higher purpose. What they really stood for at their
very core of their company- beyond sales and revenue.
12. Companies
need to
possess these
3 things.
@MACKFOGELSON
That meant that these companies would have to be willing to use marketing very
differently. Not just as a tactic or a hack, but as a lifestyle. And that takes a very
special company. So we identified 3 characteristics that we knew they needed to
possess in order for this approach to work.
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1The aspiration required to
build a better business.
Desire
These companies must have the desire to build a better business. It isn’t always
about the money. It’s about making someone’s life better. The lives of your
employees as much as it is about your customers.
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2The compassion necessary to
put others first.
Heart
These companies had to have heart. This approach isn’t about self-promotion and
hard core selling. Certainly this approach would help them make money. It’s just that
these companies would want to create something that people really wanted to be a
part of (and tell their friends about). They were willing to put others first.
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3The driving force essential to
enduring the tough stuff.
Passion
And lastly, and most importantly, these companies had to have passion and also be
willing to do the work. This approach is not easy. This building a better business stuff
takes a lot of time and hard work. They needed to have the passion so that they
would drive forward when the work was hard and they wanted to quit.
16. We were
meaning & purpose.
@MACKFOGELSON
seeking
We realized that if we found companies like this, who had Desire, and Heart, and
Passion, it meant that our team would have purpose in their work beyond money.
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And it also meant that we got to spend our days with passionate people and
companies who we really cared about. And when you work with companies and
people like that, success is inevitable.
20. @MACKFOGELSON
Marketing shouldn’t
be about tactics.
Marketing should be about
building a better business
from the inside out.
When you start from goals, marketing isn't about tactics. It becomes integrated
strategy that helps you build a better business from the inside out.
21. Put the
on the people.
@MACKFOGELSON
focus
And in order to do that, you have to put the focus on your customers (That’s you.
That’s everyone who works at Traveling Vineyard. That’s your guests, that’s the
friends of your guests). You have to care about them. You have to listen to them.
22. Put the
on the passion.
@MACKFOGELSON
focus
You need to ignite a passion that people are attracted to and really want to be a part
of.
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Communities are not
built by businesses.
Communities are built by people.
Communities are built from a passion that people feel about something. You’re part
of this community because you’ve found other people who share the same passion.
The passion to contribute to your own well-being and happiness and of your family.
And be around other people who also care about those same things.
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Traveling Vineyard isn’t
about selling wine.
This company is about changing
lives.
Although there is a passion for wine inside of this community, the passion that has
been ignited with Traveling Vineyard is not about wine, it’s about changing people’s
lives. The lives of women (and men) that you’ve been hearing over the last few days.
25. @MACKFOGELSON
what are we
working on with
Traveling Vineyard?
So I want to switch gears for a little bit and talk about what Mack Web is helping
Traveling Vineyard to do.
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So the first time I met Rick and Huib, I knew they had Desire, Heart, and Passion. I
remember sitting in the Traveling Vineyard office with them as Rick told me story
after story, and showed me pictures, of just a few of the more than 1,400 (mostly)
women who were all part of this wine selling thing.
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And as I listened to these stories, It was clear that Traveling Vineyard was about a
whole lot more than selling wine. It was about these incredible people who had
found meaning and purpose in their lives by starting businesses of their own
through the Traveling Vineyard.
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Who the heck
is this?
And of course, this, I thought, who the heck are these people? These are not the
people from Rick and Huib’s stories. From what I was seeing on the outside, there
was no way to experience the difference that Traveling Vineyard was making in all of
these people’s lives.
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And so the transformation began to bring Traveling Vineyard’s insides to the
outside. As I explained to Rick and Huib when we first met, our work with the
Traveling Vineyard isn’t really about marketing. It’s about telling their story. Your
stories. And fostering this incredible community of people that already exists.
33. We see
behind the passion.
@MACKFOGELSON
the people
We see the real people who are behind all of this passion that’s at the root of this
company. If we can communicate that passion, we will ignite that same passion in
other people and attract them to this community and build Traveling Vineyard’s
business.
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So instead of that stock footage, we see Kirby. We hear her story about the
difference that Traveling Vineyard has made in her life. How her life has changed.
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We see Kristy and we hear her story (which is different than Kirby’s). These stories
build a connection with other people who also share that passion and want to be
part of this community.
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So over the next several months, and over the next several years, we’ll be working on
a whole lot more than that. We’re going to be building some content on the blog and
on the website and doing all kinds of things offline to provide you with the resources
you need that will help you build your businesses. So that we can show what success
looks like in real life.
39. Move
forward.
@MACKFOGELSON
leadership
2) We’re also working on moving Traveling Vineyard’s industry leadership forward.
What that means is really being the example. They’re a company with Desire, Heart,
and Passion and they will show other companies what it means to build a better
business.
40. This is a
commitment.
@MACKFOGELSON
long-term
And this stuff doesn’t happen over night. This is more than a new logo and beautiful
website. It’s more than telling these stories. There’s a lot of work to be done to bring
the inside to the outside. So just like I tell Rick and Huib, this a minimum 2-3 year
process to START this transformation both on and offline.
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Communities are built
from the inside out.
This is a lifestyle, not a tactic.
Traveling Vineyard already has what it takes to be a great company, but for a long,
long time, their outsides have not matched their insides. So we’re helping Traveling
Vineyard improve what is already there. We’re guiding Rick, Huib, and the Traveling
Vineyard team as they build a community of life-long customers and a brand that
you can all be proud to be a part of and build a business with.
42. Our
begins today.
@MACKFOGELSON
journey
This is going to be a long, hard-working, and extremely rewarding journey. It’s a new
approach that’s truly about building a better business and better lives for everyone
who is part of this organization and community. We are all a team and we need to
work together to make it great. And it starts here, today.
43. @MACKFOGELSON
how can you
build your business
and your community?
So that all sounds pretty great. Hopefully this makes you really excited about what
we’re working on with Traveling Vineyard because the more their brand grows, the
better it is for your business. But let’s talk more about you. How you can use these
same things to grow your business and your community.
44. Build your
community
by doing
3 things.
@MACKFOGELSON
There are 3 really important things to do when you’re working on building your
community.
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1Be intentional about what
you want to accomplish.
Set goals
Funny thing about goals is that when you dream them up and write them down, you
actually get them accomplished. When you’re working on growing your business and
building a community, you’ve got to start from goals.
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Set Goals
What do you want to
accomplish in 3-5 years,
1 year, this week, today?
And when you’re setting goals, you want to think both long term and short term.
What do you want to accomplish: In 3-5 years? In 1 year? This week? Today?
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What do you want for your
business, your family, yourself?
Don’t just think about goals your business. Break it down to what you want for
your family. What do you want for yourself? Maybe you want to hit a financial
goal. Maybe you want to become a better leader. Maybe you want to spend more
time with your family.
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When I’m setting goals for the business, I involve the team. Every quarter we
gather at my house to identify goals for the company and what we really want to
achieve. It keeps us focused on what we want to accomplish long term, but we
also break it down into actionable steps that we can take so that we’re actually
working toward those goals we’ve set.
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For my family, one my my goals is to spend more quality time with Jon, my
husband. It seems silly that I would set this as a goal, but because the business will
always require so much work, I really have to make an effort to carve out this time
for us.
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And I also want to have the means to take my family on more vacations. Also
working on that goal of spending more quality time with my husband and also my
kids.
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I do have a shoe problem. And in addition to going on vacations and enjoying my
family, I’d also like to enjoy some more shoes. May be silly, but it’s a personal goal
for me to have the means to have some fun and support my shoe habit.
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Most importantly my goal for me long-term is balance. And taking care of myself.
Working out. Eating great. Not letting work take over every inch of my life (even
though I love it). I really want to focus on taking care of me. Set a good example for
my team and may family. And that’s certainly a goal I’ll continue to work on long
term.
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Where would you like to be
in just 1 year?
Sometimes setting visionary goals for that 3-5 year period is too far away. So in
addition to that visionary goal, think about the shorter term. Where would you
like to be in just 12 months? At the end of this year, what do you want to have
accomplished? Once you’ve identified that, you can even break this down into 9
months, 6 months, 3 months even so that you have a bit of a road map.
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What will you do this week
that will get you closer?
So that when you get ready to face the week, you know what you’re working
toward based on these longer term goals you’ve set. What is it that you are going
to accomplish that helps get you one step closer to that 1 year goal? Your 3-5 year
goal? It helps to bring the vision down to reality.
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What will you do today that
will make a difference?
How about today? Be intentional about your time. When you’re on Facebook,
have a mission or you’ll be on there all day. Time yourself. Spend your time
engaging and building relationships and then move on to the other important
things that you have to accomplish in your day so that you’re working toward
those goals you’ve set.
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I have made a promise to myself to be very specific about the time I spend during
my day. There’s always so many meetings. so I block out time to get work done so I
don’t have to work at night and I can work toward accomplishing my goals.
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Set Goals
What’s the first step?
Break it down. Start
somewhere. Start small.
!
So when I’m setting goals, I like to break them down so that I actually know how I’m
going to accomplish them. And sometimes, all that takes is determining that very
first step. Break it down into that first phone call or even just searching something
on Google.
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Set Goals
Who can you ask for help?
There’s always someone who is
willing to open a door.
Probably the most important thing about setting and accomplishing goals is thinking
about who can help you. Think through your network of friends and supporters. Do
you know someone who may know someone who can help?
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Don’t be afraid to ask.
Even if it seems like a long shot.
“
“- Sheryl Sandberg, COO Facebook
Don’t go it alone and don’t be afraid to ask for help. When I started Mack Web, I
knew nothing about business. In fact, I have two English degrees. I’ve learned
everything about growing this team by reading blog posts, books, going to
conferences, and asking friends for help.
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Set your goals and identify
what success means to you.
Make sure that when you’re setting goals you’re also identifying what success looks
like. What package does your success come in? Sometimes your reward is contrast.
Clarity that something isn't right for you. Is it more time with your kids? Breaking a
financial ceiling you never thought you'd hit?Just remember that success comes in
different packages. Keep your expectations in check.
63. Always
to your goals.
@MACKFOGELSON
go back
Always stay rooted in goals. When you’re feeling stuck or like things are not going
the way you’d like them to, go back to goals. Go back to those indicators of success.
Reevaluate, define your steps, and continue moving forward.
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Setting obtainable goals
is key to happiness.
Instead of perfection, we should aim
for sustainable and fulfilling.
“
“- Sheryl Sandberg, COO Facebook
And always bring it back to purpose and meaning.
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2People like people who are
authentic and genuine.
Be human
Social media is about people. It’s about being a real, actual human that other people
can relate to and trust. Along with that passion, that’s what really builds a
community.
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Be Human
The people who are winning
on social media are those
who have earned trust.
The people who win on social media, and the people and companies who are able to
build a community around their passion, are those who have earned trust by being
authentic and genuine and are living up to the promises their brand has made.
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It’s not about the numbers.
It’s about the connection.
And the thing to remember about social media is that it’s not about the numbers. It’s
not about building this huge group of people just so that you can sell them
something. What you want are people who listen, participate, and engage.
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Be Human
Make an effort to
actually care about the
people around you.
Your ultimate goal is to build a network of people who think highly of you. People
who respect you. People who view you as a knowledge source. People who know
they can came to or call when they need help. You want people to feel connected to
you.
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Don’t make it about the sale.
What’s important to them?
How do you do that? Don’t always make it about the sale. Don’t shove your business
card into someones hand. Ask about them. Talk about their lives and what’s
important to them. If you can focus on being authentic and genuine, you will attract
sales. Just be human and make an effort to actually care about people.
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Be Human
Have a balance
between your professional
and personal side.
That starts with being a human yourself and showing your personality both on and
offline. When you’re with people in person, it’s easier to earn their trust and
understand that you’re authentic and genuine. But that’s not always the case online.
You want to make sure your human-ness is being communicated effectively online.
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Let’s take a look at Kirby’s profile on Pinterest. She has a great photo and her bio
says: Wine Consultant - The Traveling Vineyard she then has a link to her website
and her bio page. Nothing wrong with any of that, but what if Kirby revised her bio a
bit to include her personality, to show her authenticity, her passions, and things that
actually make her human.
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Before
After
Here we see Kirby’s loves: wine, food, and life….but especially being a mom. This
shows who she is and makes her approachable and friendly. Someone who’s easy to
connect and reach out to. This makes her human.
Good wine, good food, good life. As a Traveling Vineyard Wine Guide
& Wine Tasting Mommy, I get to enjoy them all.
(I love talking about them, too. Hint, hint.)
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Same thing here on Twitter for Kiersten. Her bio talks about her job at Traveling
Vineyard. Which is fine, but it doesn’t help us understand anything about Kiersten as
an authentic and genuine human.
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Trying new wines, learning wine things,
making wine money. As a Traveling
Vineyard Wine Guide, I get to do it all -
on my own schedule. Jealous?
AfterBefore
!
This keeps Kiersten’s personality in the mix but changes the focus just slightly to be
more authentic and less sales-y which will provide a better chance of a connection
with Kiersten.
76. Be who
both on and offline.
@MACKFOGELSON
you are
So the big takeaway here is that you really have to work to help people trust you
online. Show them that you’re human just like you would offline.
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3Always remember that
this is not about you.
Listen
This is the hardest step. You’re the one who’s responsible for making things happen
in your business. You’re setting goals. You’re taking the action steps. You have an
agenda that you want to accomplish. You want to be in control of how things are
going to go.
79. @MACKFOGELSON
Listen
You’re not the most
important part of
the customer equation.
But remember the importance of being human. And when it comes to building
relationships with people, (especially online) the most important thing to remember
is that you’re NOT the most important person in the relationship. You’ve got to put
the focus on them.
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Listen
Is there anything
you can do to
make their life better?
Talk to your customers. Ask them what they think. Is there anything that would help
make their lives easier? Is there something they want to learn more about? You
actually need to ask them what they need.
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What is your biggest
problem?
How can I solve it?
“
“- Sheryl Sandberg, COO Facebook
When you put your customer’s needs first, when you serve others, you will build
your community and your business.
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Listen
Show them you’ve listened
with action. Provide the
value they’re seeking.
After you’ve received that feedback, show them that you’ve listened through action.
Don’t make this about you. Make it about the value you can provide your customers.
Here’s how…
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Try the 4-1-1 rule:
4 pieces of curated content
1 re-share of another’s content
1 self-promotional item
There’s a ratio here that you really want to balance. So the majority of the stuff
you’re doing is not all about you. You’re focusing on the conversation and providing
value.
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You’ll want to make sure you’re listening to your customers and understanding what
they’re really passionate about. Wine? Probably. You can then read blogs like Vine
Pair or Wine Folly who provide a lot of value that your customers would probably
love. If you’re a team leader, you can share blog posts on leadership and taking care
of your customers.
86. @MACKFOGELSON
And then share that value on social media and give credit to the source. This does
two things: 1) it provides your audience with valuable content (that you didn’t have
to create because someone else wrote it). They feel good about you. You’re smart.
This helps them to feel more connected. 2) It helps to forge a connection between
you and the person who wrote the content. People like to feel special. When people
know you find them valuable, they are more likely to feel connected to you (and this
is one of the ways to grow friendships and relationships online).
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So here’s an example of a re-share or RT from Traveling Vineyard. We RT something
that Deanna shared that had @homegoods tagged in there. This is going to be really
relevant and valuable for Traveling Vineyard’s audience and because Home Goods is
in the tweet, their social media team will see that Traveling Vineyard shared it. Now
it may take some time to turn their head, but it wouldn't be such a bad idea if Home
Goods then decided to follow Traveling Vineyard and share their content and the
great things they’re doing.
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So here’s an example of amore self-promotional tweet. Traveling Vineyard was
sharing something about Harvest. And there was still value in this tweet because
they’re trying to get others to be able to participate in the fun (whether they can
come to Harvest or not) so they’re providing the hashtag.
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When I share curated content, I like to write something clever to explain the value in
it that shows my personalty. I also like to include images wherever possible (people
like images).
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And I also try to share something personal. But again, follow that 4-1-1 rule so that
you have a balance between making it about you and making it about them. It’s that
ratio that I’m not talking about myself all day long, I’m providing value, that overall,
I’m doing things that really benefit my audience and make it about them.
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When you’re posting your stuff on social media, you’re hearing what your audience
really wants. Look at what people are liking, sharing, or commenting. We’ve found
that the Traveling Vineyard community on Facebook likes recipes. This recipe had
18 shares and 20 likes.
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They also really like graphics like these. 169 shares and 104 likes and a ton of
conversation. You just need to listen to what they respond to and adjust accordingly.
Make it about them. Keep testing out your balance for your 4-1-1 ratio.
97. Your goal
a conversation.
@MACKFOGELSON
is to spark
It’s easy for people to like things. It’s harder to get them to have a conversation with
you. To be engaged. To participate.
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Try different things. And try things that get them talking. For this post, we shared a
quote from the article we were sharing. Fewer people liked and shared this, but it
sparked a little conversation and connection. Makes them feel like you’re listening.
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Or like this on Facebook. Start a sentence and let your community finish it. So try
lots of different things, but really make sure you’re listening.
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Show them you listened through action. Take the online offline. I’d make some
sangria for her. Or find another recipe in another week or two and share that with
her online. Bring some recipes to your next party. Or find a recipe that’s similar to
what they said they liked and seek them out to share it with them on social media.
You just have to listen and paying attention to what they’re saying.
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Listening is a dynamic process.
Make the effort to adapt.
And don’t do the same thing day in day out. Experiment with different things not
only on social media but at your tastings and listen. Then apply what you learn.
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So this is a photo wall that we built at Mack Web. We put this up to remind us why
we’re here. The people and the things on this wall are what really matters to us. This
is why we work so hard. This is what gives us meaning and purpose in our lives.
And doing all of the things that I have talked about today, those are the things that
have helped to build our company over the last few years. And doing these things
have made us successful. It’s taken a few years, but it’s really working. Which makes
me feel really good because…
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The secret is,
there is no secret.
Just do the best you can with
what you’ve got.
“
“- Sheryl Sandberg, COO Facebook
Owning a business and being a mom is hard, hard work. It’s a continuous journey of
self-discovery. You learn what you can handle, how much you can endure. You learn
that you possess courage and the ability to take risk and that you do in fact have the
courage to sustain it. Remember to stay rooted in the goals you’ve set. Don’t
compare yourself to anyone but you. Start small. Don’t give up. Provide value. And
most importantly, have a purpose for doing this besides money. Remember that
you’re not just selling wine, you’re changing your lives.