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Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene
Therapy
Jay Konduros
Toronto, May 11th 2019
Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy
•  Participant	in	CHOP’s	Gene	Therapy	Trial	for	Hemophilia	B	using	the	Padua	
factor	IX	gene.	(SPK	9001	Trial)	
•  Talk	will	be	in	four	sections:		
•  Background	through	the	years	with	hemophilia	(context	for	decision	making)	
•  Modern	events	and	decision	to	go	on	trial	
•  Treatment	and	trial	experience	
•  Life	since	treatment
Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy
• Background	Through	the	Years	with	Hemophilia	
	
•  Born	in	Montreal	in	1964	as	the	youngest	of	4	kids,	one	older	brother	with	
hemophilia	and	moved	to	Toronto	area	at	9	years	of	age	
•  Very	fortunate	-	generally	normal	childhood	interspersed	with	injury	episodes	
•  Childhood	through	early	university	days,	out	of	school	for	a	couple	weeks	at	a	
time	twice	per	school	year	(1-2	month	recovery)	
•  First	memories	pooled	together	-	terror	on	seeing	swellings	grow	out	of	
control,	resulting	immobility,	the	imminent	missing	of	school,	going	to	
hospital,	embarrassment	of	sitting	in	a	wheelchair,	waiting	for	hours,	doctors	
squeezing	and	flexing	the	injury	site,	sights	and	smells	of	hospitals
Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy
• Background	Through	the	Years	with	Hemophilia	continued...	
	
•  Hid	injuries	for	fear	of	being	taken	to	the	hospital	until	I	was	completely	
immobilized	(not	a	good	idea	but	that’s	what	I	did).	
•  Up	to	high	school	days,	hospital	visits	were	day	long	events	split	between	
waiting	to	see	doctors,	hours	long	plasma	drips,	and	struggle	to/from	Hospital	
•  Last	few	years	going	to	children’s	hospital	the	doctoring	much	improved	and	
treatment	switched	to	factor	concentrate	-	a	great	time	improvement
Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy
• Background	Through	the	Years	with	Hemophilia	continued…	
•  Home	self-treatment	came	into	being	around	the	time	I	entered	university	-	a	huge	life	
changer	
•  I	could	now	treat	myself	in	private	very	early	on	in	a	bleed	
•  From	this	period	forward	I	missed	many	fewer	days	of	school/work	
•  1980’s	happened,	and	my	sense	of	freedom	vanished	into	constant	fear	
•  Coping	mechanism	was	to	completely	deny	the	situation	and	bury	my	head	deep	in	the	sand	
•  Home	treatment	decisions	became	much	harder	
•  Only	treating	major	muscle	bleeds,	immobilizing	and	pampering	any	lesser	injuries.	
•  This	behavior	continued	for	the	good	part	of	twenty	years	until	recombinant	factor	IX	
availability	
•  This	again	was	a	huge	life	changer,	anxiety	levels	dropped	immeasurably.		
•  Now	felt	free	to	properly	treat	injuries	with	total	autonomy.
Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy
• Modern	Events	and	Decision	to	go	on	Trial	
•  Severe	leg	injury	in	2014,	couldn’t	control	the	bleed,	spent	10	days	in	the	
hospital	
•  One	month	on	walker,	one	month	on	crutches,	3	months	on	a	cane,	and	
another	3	months	getting	back	to	normal	
•  A	big	reminder	that	hemophilia	is	a	very	ugly	disease	and	no	matter	how	hard	
I	try	to	control	it,	it’s	always	there	ready	to	pounce.	
	
•  Magic	Happens	Here:	
•  In	2015	Harvoni	was	offered	as	a	cure	for	Hepatitis	C	acquired	decades	earlier
Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy
•  Modern	Events	and	Decision	to	go	on	Trial	cont…	
•  Cleared	that	September,	received	a	letter	from	Dr.	Teitel	in	December	
offering	the	opportunity	of	going	on	a	gene	therapy	trial	
•  Aware	of	the	concept	of	gene	therapy	for	hemophilia	but	thought	it	was	a	far	
off	hope		
•  Appealed	to	me	as	the	ultimate	solution	-	on	board	factor	IX	production	–	
total	freedom	
•  Immediate	emotional	response	-	absolutely	I’m	in	
•  Helping	to	kick	this	disease	into	the	garbage	pail	of	history	too	good	to	pass	
up
Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy
•  Modern	Events	and	Decision	to	go	on	Trial	cont…	
•  Started	researching	anything	and	everything	to	do	with	gene	therapy		
•  Spring	2016,	discussed	specific	CHOP	trial	with	Dr.	Teitel,	did	further	research	
on	Dr.	Katherine	High	and	the	CHOP	trial,	and	ultimately	met	with	Dr.	George	
•  Comfort	level	very	high	seeing	the	professionalism,	passion,	and	caution	and	
care	being	applied	to	this	trial.	Green	lights	all	the	way	
•  I	felt	I	was	going	to	be	a	part	of	something	big
Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy
• Treatment	and	Trial	Experience	
•  June	6th	2016	I	was	dosed	with	the	gene	therapy.	
•  To	sum	up	in	one	line	the	actual	gene	therapy	dosing	procedure:	
•  	 	 	 “That’s	it?	Are	you	kidding	me??”			
•  To	have	a	disease	for	your	whole	life,	then	with	one	intravenous	injection	of	a	
clear	liquid	lasting	an	hour,	you	walk	out	of	the	hospital	and	leave	your	
hemophilia	at	the	door.	This	is	magical!
Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy
• Treatment	and	Trial	Experience	cont…	
•  The	trial	itself	has	been	one	of	the	most	enjoyable	experiences	of	my	life,	superbly	
organized,	respectful,	accommodating,	and	fun	
	
•  Zero	preparation,	Zero	side	effects,	zero	limitations	
•  Blood	draws	done	at	my	home,	all	expenses	paid	trips	to	Philadelphia!	
	
•  My	personal	hope	for	this	therapy	was	a	factor	level	rise	to	5	or	even	10	percent	
	
•  Enough	to	stop	the	surprise	“gotcha”	bleeds	and	allow	for	far	fewer	bleeding	
episodes	with	quicker	recovery	times.
Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy
• Life	Since	Treatment	
•  What	I	have	experienced	in	the	last	almost	3	years	is	a	factor	level	hovering	
around	40%	and	no	bleeds	at	all,	and	nothing	coming	close	to	bleed.	
	
•  Still	get	panicky	if	I	have	just	hurt	myself	and	a	fear	washes	over	me	
	
•  Need	to	consciously	repeat	to	myself	–	“my	factor	is	40%,	I’ll	be	OK”	
	
•  Simple	pleasures	–	Not	being	stiff	in	mornings,	no	limping	and	pain	getting	off	
airplanes	or	out	of	movie	theatres,	not	worrying	about	how	far	away	my	
fridge	is,	not	having	to	bring	treatments	with	me	on	out	of	town	trips
Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy
• Life	Since	Treatment	cont…	
•  still	in	too	good	to	be	true	mode	but	for	now	fear	of	future	has	gone	way	
down	
	
•  Describing	to	someone	without	hemophilia	the	excitement	and	magic	of	
seeing	injuries	just	disappear	in	few	hours	is	anticlimactic	–		
	
•  Blank	stares	and	a	drawn	out	“oohhhkay		aaaand”	
	
•  The	most	fun	is	comparing	notes	with	fellow	trial	participant	and	brother	who	
understands	fully	-	the	resulting	magic	of	gene	therapy.
Thank you

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Workshop G: Jay Konduros, Cell and Gene Therapy from Laboratory to Market -

  • 1. Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy Jay Konduros Toronto, May 11th 2019
  • 2. Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy •  Participant in CHOP’s Gene Therapy Trial for Hemophilia B using the Padua factor IX gene. (SPK 9001 Trial) •  Talk will be in four sections: •  Background through the years with hemophilia (context for decision making) •  Modern events and decision to go on trial •  Treatment and trial experience •  Life since treatment
  • 3. Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy • Background Through the Years with Hemophilia •  Born in Montreal in 1964 as the youngest of 4 kids, one older brother with hemophilia and moved to Toronto area at 9 years of age •  Very fortunate - generally normal childhood interspersed with injury episodes •  Childhood through early university days, out of school for a couple weeks at a time twice per school year (1-2 month recovery) •  First memories pooled together - terror on seeing swellings grow out of control, resulting immobility, the imminent missing of school, going to hospital, embarrassment of sitting in a wheelchair, waiting for hours, doctors squeezing and flexing the injury site, sights and smells of hospitals
  • 4. Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy • Background Through the Years with Hemophilia continued... •  Hid injuries for fear of being taken to the hospital until I was completely immobilized (not a good idea but that’s what I did). •  Up to high school days, hospital visits were day long events split between waiting to see doctors, hours long plasma drips, and struggle to/from Hospital •  Last few years going to children’s hospital the doctoring much improved and treatment switched to factor concentrate - a great time improvement
  • 5. Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy • Background Through the Years with Hemophilia continued… •  Home self-treatment came into being around the time I entered university - a huge life changer •  I could now treat myself in private very early on in a bleed •  From this period forward I missed many fewer days of school/work •  1980’s happened, and my sense of freedom vanished into constant fear •  Coping mechanism was to completely deny the situation and bury my head deep in the sand •  Home treatment decisions became much harder •  Only treating major muscle bleeds, immobilizing and pampering any lesser injuries. •  This behavior continued for the good part of twenty years until recombinant factor IX availability •  This again was a huge life changer, anxiety levels dropped immeasurably. •  Now felt free to properly treat injuries with total autonomy.
  • 6. Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy • Modern Events and Decision to go on Trial •  Severe leg injury in 2014, couldn’t control the bleed, spent 10 days in the hospital •  One month on walker, one month on crutches, 3 months on a cane, and another 3 months getting back to normal •  A big reminder that hemophilia is a very ugly disease and no matter how hard I try to control it, it’s always there ready to pounce. •  Magic Happens Here: •  In 2015 Harvoni was offered as a cure for Hepatitis C acquired decades earlier
  • 7. Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy •  Modern Events and Decision to go on Trial cont… •  Cleared that September, received a letter from Dr. Teitel in December offering the opportunity of going on a gene therapy trial •  Aware of the concept of gene therapy for hemophilia but thought it was a far off hope •  Appealed to me as the ultimate solution - on board factor IX production – total freedom •  Immediate emotional response - absolutely I’m in •  Helping to kick this disease into the garbage pail of history too good to pass up
  • 8. Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy •  Modern Events and Decision to go on Trial cont… •  Started researching anything and everything to do with gene therapy •  Spring 2016, discussed specific CHOP trial with Dr. Teitel, did further research on Dr. Katherine High and the CHOP trial, and ultimately met with Dr. George •  Comfort level very high seeing the professionalism, passion, and caution and care being applied to this trial. Green lights all the way •  I felt I was going to be a part of something big
  • 9. Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy • Treatment and Trial Experience •  June 6th 2016 I was dosed with the gene therapy. •  To sum up in one line the actual gene therapy dosing procedure: •  “That’s it? Are you kidding me??” •  To have a disease for your whole life, then with one intravenous injection of a clear liquid lasting an hour, you walk out of the hospital and leave your hemophilia at the door. This is magical!
  • 10. Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy • Treatment and Trial Experience cont… •  The trial itself has been one of the most enjoyable experiences of my life, superbly organized, respectful, accommodating, and fun •  Zero preparation, Zero side effects, zero limitations •  Blood draws done at my home, all expenses paid trips to Philadelphia! •  My personal hope for this therapy was a factor level rise to 5 or even 10 percent •  Enough to stop the surprise “gotcha” bleeds and allow for far fewer bleeding episodes with quicker recovery times.
  • 11. Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy • Life Since Treatment •  What I have experienced in the last almost 3 years is a factor level hovering around 40% and no bleeds at all, and nothing coming close to bleed. •  Still get panicky if I have just hurt myself and a fear washes over me •  Need to consciously repeat to myself – “my factor is 40%, I’ll be OK” •  Simple pleasures – Not being stiff in mornings, no limping and pain getting off airplanes or out of movie theatres, not worrying about how far away my fridge is, not having to bring treatments with me on out of town trips
  • 12. Patient Experience – The “Magic” of Gene Therapy • Life Since Treatment cont… •  still in too good to be true mode but for now fear of future has gone way down •  Describing to someone without hemophilia the excitement and magic of seeing injuries just disappear in few hours is anticlimactic – •  Blank stares and a drawn out “oohhhkay aaaand” •  The most fun is comparing notes with fellow trial participant and brother who understands fully - the resulting magic of gene therapy.