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© 2019 Ross Fishman
Fishman Marketing
Artificial Intelligence,
Ethics, and
the Future of Law
Ross Fishman
ross@fishmanmarketing.com
fishmanmarketing.com/blog
© 2019 Fishman Marketing, Inc.
© 2019 Ross Fishman
SO YOU GO TO YOUR DOCTOR…
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
“Doctor, I have a bad cough.”
“60 year-old white male, suburbia,
professional, occasionally has the flu
and once had bronchitis.”
“Probably a cold.”
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
How often is your doctor correct?
• 30%
• 40%
• 50%
• 60%
• 70%
• 80%
• 90%
• 100%
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Experiential vs. Data-Driven Predictions
• Experiential
– In my 20 years’ experience…
– I’ve seen a lot of this and I think…
– People like you tend to…
• Data-Driven
– Look at innumerable variables
– No preconceptions
– No subconscious human bias
– The numbers are what they are
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
What if your doctor also…
• Analyzed public data, social media
– 250 Facebook posts, 1,000 photos
• And your friends’ and families’
– Blogs, LinkedIn, tweets, Snapchat
– Credit card receipts
• Airlines, Uber, restaurants
– Info from the local/nat’l news, etc.
• Visited daughter in Charleston, SC
– Respiratory outbreak
– Mold caused by Irma flooding
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
That’s better
• Your doctor PLUS AI is… better
• But do you still need a doctor?
• What if you had online access to input your
symptoms and get the fact-based diagnosis?
– “Best medicine for this is a Z-pack”
– Pick it up at the local pharmacy.
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
According to the Cleveland Clinic:
• When can't process data, you compensate based on
experiential.
• Less than half of medical diagnoses are fact-based
– Just experiential
– “I think, based upon my experience…”
• They’re guessing.
© 2019 Ross Fishman
DATA OVERLOAD
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Data overload
• 16 zettabytes (1021) in the world
– In 8 years it’ll grow x10
• 80% is flat, unstructured
– Newspaper text, articles, blogs, Word docs, etc.
• 2.5 quintillion (2.5 x 1018) bytes of data created each day
– 170 newspapers delivered to every person on earth
every day
• “The answer to your question is in the paper”
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Data overload
• Day One?
• Day Two?
• Day Ten?
– 1700 papers
• THIS is the challenge
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
“Doctor, I have a bad cough.”
• Medicine changes fast
• An epidemiologist would need to spend
167 hours per week staying current
– US Government estimate
• They’re not billing hourly
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Two doctors
• Even if you could read and synthesize it
• You’d filter it through your experience, biases
• Two doctors, same information
– Different course of treatment
– Different schools, training, experience, personality,
conservative vs. aggressive
© 2019 Ross Fishman
WE ALL HAVE BIASES
© 2019 Ross Fishman
Humans have biases based on:
– Ethnicity
– Age
– Gender
– Personality
– Ethics
– Beliefs
– Religion
– History
– Demographics
– Experience
– Training
– Education
– Politics
– Birth order
– Socio-economic
– What they see
– What they hear
– What they read
© 2019 Ross Fishman
Computers have no biases:
– Ethnicity
– Age
– Gender
– Personality
– Ethics
– Beliefs
– Religion
– History
– Demographics
– Experience
– Training
– Education
– Politics
– Birth order
– Socio-economic
– What they see
– What they hear
– What they read
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Future of medicine – IBM’s Watson
• How many variables can a doctor juggle?
– Infinite data points
– Age, health, history, background, ethnicity, height, weight,
travel, family, lifestyle, hobbies, environment, neighbors…
– How many cases can a single doctor treat?
• How much actual experience?
• Knowledge or “gut?”
• Watson juggles ALL of the variables
– It’s all just data
• Output is a percent chance
© 2019 Ross Fishman
A WORLD WITH AI
© 2019 Ross Fishman
THE LAW
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
How often are your firm’s lawyers correct?
• “Here’s what you should do….”
– I recommend suing.
– I think you should settle for < $450,000.
– I’m pretty sure we can get that variance.
– We can win the audit.
– Here’s what our patent search showed.
– We’ll win on appeal.
• That’s all “experiential”
– “My gut says…”
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Watson re Litigation
• You’re BUSY!
– Massive amount of data
– It’s not possible to keep up
• How much DATA can one lawyer realistically analyze?
– Thousands of relevant cases, precedents, unpublished
opinions, articles, blogs, tweets, appeals, filings?
– Millions of pieces of information?
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Watson re Litigation
• How many VARIABLES can a lawyer consider?
– Infinite possible data points
• Clients’ size, location, specific case’s unique facts
– How many similar cases can any lawyer handle?
– Even the experts have a small data set
• Watson will analyze ALL of the variables and give
a range of percentages
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
One degree of complexity
• Humans rely on one degree of complexity
– Simple characteristics of a case
• Not the multitude of factors that actually affect
how you should think of it
• Humans struggle with complex cognitive challenges
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
All data is useful
• Law / Drs. / prof’ls extract what they need from the data
– What they want
• In big data you take everything
– Take confluence of factors
– You don't curate in advance
• Don't say “this info / outcome is irrelevant”
– Analyze the broader context
• People can't do it fast enough
– Apply personal filters, biases
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
How was The Weather?
• Lawyers don’t consider the weather when
got a judgment or settlement
– Sunny days jurors are more inclined to do X?
– Or when jury was sequestered?
– What did jury have for breakfast?
• “After a hot breakfast jurors [do this] 86% more often.”
• Data curation
• Include the superfluous data
– Include everything
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Accurate, evidence-based decisions
• “I’ll close, I have the most experience.
– “It’ll take 2.5 hours to walk them through the evidence.”
• “Actually, in trials lasting more than 11 days, when
closing during the summer after lunch, arguments
longer than 27 minutes have a 47% lower chance of
being successful in Cook County, and 68% lower with
this judge when his clerk is Joe (78% lower with Sue).
• “And on cloudy Tuesday afternoons, women 40-47 years
old close 72% more successfully than men.
– 87% more if they’re 5’4 to 5’6, brunette, and lefty.”
– Why? I don’t know. But that’s what the data show.
© 2019 Ross Fishman
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
Future of Law. IBM’s Watson
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
What does this mean?
• Business dispute.
– They sue for $5 million. Offer $1 million.
• Input all the data
• AI prediction (in this court with this judge at this time):
– 78% chance of $1.5 - $1.7 million
– 19% chance of $2.0 - $2.5 million
– 3% chance of $2.6 - $5 million
• Why hire litigators?
– Why conduct discovery?
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
What does this mean?
• Clients can go to Oklahoma, Des Moines (not NYC)
• Lawyer at $250/hour
– Why hire big-firm NYC lawyer at $2,000/hour?
© 2019 Ross Fishman
ETHICS AND AI
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Attorney-Client Privilege
• Can you have attorney-client privilege between
a client and an AI robot-lawyer?
• Too far away to answer this question
• But what ethical rules do or will apply to AI?
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Duty of Competence. ABA Rule 1.1
• Duty of proficiency in the law
• Duty to keep abreast of changes in law and its practice,
– Including risks and benefits re new technology
• Balance between:
– Embracing new technology, and
– Avoiding unnecessarily risky ones
• Risks exist both for early adopters and Luddites.
• Needn’t be an expert on predictive coding, but can’t
ignore it if you have a case with 1,000s of documents
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Duty of Supervision. ABA Rules 5.1, 5.3
• Duty to supervise the work of non-lawyers
– Their conduct must comply with lawyer’s obligations
– Historically applied to humans
• What if AI is making decisions or performing work
that is like delivering legal services
– Preparing documents
– Making decisions about w/n to produce documents
• Sounds like it…?
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Duty of Supervision. ABA Rules 5.1, 5.3
• AIs can work with much larger data sets than humans
– Can base decisions on complex patterns or algorithms
– We can’t conduct that analysis
• What if we don’t understand the AI’s reasoning?
– Can you meet your ethical obligation?
• How can you supervise something “smarter” than you?
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Confidentiality
• AI applications are provided by third-party companies
• AI analysis improves with larger data sets
• May AI companies commingle all of their customers’
data into one database?
• What if they get data from both sides?
– Does it train the system to beat you?
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Unauthorized Practice of Law
• Lawyers can’t practice where they’re not licensed
– UPL standards for AI are generally unclear
• AI robot-lawyers may soon deliver legal services
– Are they subject to State Bar licensure requirements?
• Can IBM’s Watson “pass the bar?”
– Should it?
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Unauthorized Practice of Law
• Software cannot provide legal advice
• Texas statute ― the practice of law does not
include the “design, creation, publication,
distribution, display or sale of computer software
or similar products”
• Requires disclaimer that they’re not a substitute
for the advice of counsel.
© 2019 Ross Fishman
LEGAL RESEARCH
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Legal research
• Literal search relies on people to interpret
– Sift through the responses to see what's relevant
– Watson knows what's contextually relevant
– Traditional search can't tell
• Artificial intelligence can
• Enhances and expedites expertise
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Legal research
• ROSS Intelligence can sort a billion text documents
per second
• It learns from feedback, gets smarter
• “To put it another way, ROSS and Watson are
learning to understand the law, not just translate
words and syntax into search results.”
• $4 billion annual spend disappears
© 2019 Ross Fishman
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
© 2019 Ross Fishman
The typical reaction
Wow, AI sounds
revolutionary!
But… here’s why it
doesn’t apply to me.
Computers and data
have been around
for decades.
My expertise is what’s
really important.
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
“My expertise is what’s important.”
• “Really?
• The next time you’re with your doctor, consider which
you want:
1. His “expertise”
• i.e. gut feeling and diagnosis
2. A thorough evidence-based analysis
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
“30% reduction in outside counsel spend”
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
Our Reasoning can be replaced
• Reasoning traditionally done by attorneys can be
replaced or supplemented by predictions made by
computers.
• It won’t replace lawyers
• But it’ll replace some of it
• How much…?
© 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman
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Artificial Intelligence (AI) in the Legal Profession Ross Fishman CLE

  • 1. © 2019 Ross Fishman Fishman Marketing Artificial Intelligence, Ethics, and the Future of Law Ross Fishman ross@fishmanmarketing.com fishmanmarketing.com/blog © 2019 Fishman Marketing, Inc.
  • 2. © 2019 Ross Fishman SO YOU GO TO YOUR DOCTOR…
  • 3. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman “Doctor, I have a bad cough.” “60 year-old white male, suburbia, professional, occasionally has the flu and once had bronchitis.” “Probably a cold.”
  • 4. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman How often is your doctor correct? • 30% • 40% • 50% • 60% • 70% • 80% • 90% • 100%
  • 5. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Experiential vs. Data-Driven Predictions • Experiential – In my 20 years’ experience… – I’ve seen a lot of this and I think… – People like you tend to… • Data-Driven – Look at innumerable variables – No preconceptions – No subconscious human bias – The numbers are what they are
  • 6. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman What if your doctor also… • Analyzed public data, social media – 250 Facebook posts, 1,000 photos • And your friends’ and families’ – Blogs, LinkedIn, tweets, Snapchat – Credit card receipts • Airlines, Uber, restaurants – Info from the local/nat’l news, etc. • Visited daughter in Charleston, SC – Respiratory outbreak – Mold caused by Irma flooding
  • 7. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman That’s better • Your doctor PLUS AI is… better • But do you still need a doctor? • What if you had online access to input your symptoms and get the fact-based diagnosis? – “Best medicine for this is a Z-pack” – Pick it up at the local pharmacy.
  • 8. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman According to the Cleveland Clinic: • When can't process data, you compensate based on experiential. • Less than half of medical diagnoses are fact-based – Just experiential – “I think, based upon my experience…” • They’re guessing.
  • 9. © 2019 Ross Fishman DATA OVERLOAD
  • 10. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Data overload • 16 zettabytes (1021) in the world – In 8 years it’ll grow x10 • 80% is flat, unstructured – Newspaper text, articles, blogs, Word docs, etc. • 2.5 quintillion (2.5 x 1018) bytes of data created each day – 170 newspapers delivered to every person on earth every day • “The answer to your question is in the paper”
  • 11. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Data overload • Day One? • Day Two? • Day Ten? – 1700 papers • THIS is the challenge
  • 12. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman “Doctor, I have a bad cough.” • Medicine changes fast • An epidemiologist would need to spend 167 hours per week staying current – US Government estimate • They’re not billing hourly
  • 13. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Two doctors • Even if you could read and synthesize it • You’d filter it through your experience, biases • Two doctors, same information – Different course of treatment – Different schools, training, experience, personality, conservative vs. aggressive
  • 14. © 2019 Ross Fishman WE ALL HAVE BIASES
  • 15. © 2019 Ross Fishman Humans have biases based on: – Ethnicity – Age – Gender – Personality – Ethics – Beliefs – Religion – History – Demographics – Experience – Training – Education – Politics – Birth order – Socio-economic – What they see – What they hear – What they read
  • 16. © 2019 Ross Fishman Computers have no biases: – Ethnicity – Age – Gender – Personality – Ethics – Beliefs – Religion – History – Demographics – Experience – Training – Education – Politics – Birth order – Socio-economic – What they see – What they hear – What they read
  • 17. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Future of medicine – IBM’s Watson • How many variables can a doctor juggle? – Infinite data points – Age, health, history, background, ethnicity, height, weight, travel, family, lifestyle, hobbies, environment, neighbors… – How many cases can a single doctor treat? • How much actual experience? • Knowledge or “gut?” • Watson juggles ALL of the variables – It’s all just data • Output is a percent chance
  • 18. © 2019 Ross Fishman A WORLD WITH AI
  • 19. © 2019 Ross Fishman THE LAW
  • 20. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman How often are your firm’s lawyers correct? • “Here’s what you should do….” – I recommend suing. – I think you should settle for < $450,000. – I’m pretty sure we can get that variance. – We can win the audit. – Here’s what our patent search showed. – We’ll win on appeal. • That’s all “experiential” – “My gut says…”
  • 21. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Watson re Litigation • You’re BUSY! – Massive amount of data – It’s not possible to keep up • How much DATA can one lawyer realistically analyze? – Thousands of relevant cases, precedents, unpublished opinions, articles, blogs, tweets, appeals, filings? – Millions of pieces of information?
  • 22. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Watson re Litigation • How many VARIABLES can a lawyer consider? – Infinite possible data points • Clients’ size, location, specific case’s unique facts – How many similar cases can any lawyer handle? – Even the experts have a small data set • Watson will analyze ALL of the variables and give a range of percentages
  • 23. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman One degree of complexity • Humans rely on one degree of complexity – Simple characteristics of a case • Not the multitude of factors that actually affect how you should think of it • Humans struggle with complex cognitive challenges
  • 24. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman All data is useful • Law / Drs. / prof’ls extract what they need from the data – What they want • In big data you take everything – Take confluence of factors – You don't curate in advance • Don't say “this info / outcome is irrelevant” – Analyze the broader context • People can't do it fast enough – Apply personal filters, biases
  • 25. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman How was The Weather? • Lawyers don’t consider the weather when got a judgment or settlement – Sunny days jurors are more inclined to do X? – Or when jury was sequestered? – What did jury have for breakfast? • “After a hot breakfast jurors [do this] 86% more often.” • Data curation • Include the superfluous data – Include everything
  • 26. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Accurate, evidence-based decisions • “I’ll close, I have the most experience. – “It’ll take 2.5 hours to walk them through the evidence.” • “Actually, in trials lasting more than 11 days, when closing during the summer after lunch, arguments longer than 27 minutes have a 47% lower chance of being successful in Cook County, and 68% lower with this judge when his clerk is Joe (78% lower with Sue). • “And on cloudy Tuesday afternoons, women 40-47 years old close 72% more successfully than men. – 87% more if they’re 5’4 to 5’6, brunette, and lefty.” – Why? I don’t know. But that’s what the data show.
  • 27. © 2019 Ross Fishman WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Future of Law. IBM’s Watson
  • 28. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman What does this mean? • Business dispute. – They sue for $5 million. Offer $1 million. • Input all the data • AI prediction (in this court with this judge at this time): – 78% chance of $1.5 - $1.7 million – 19% chance of $2.0 - $2.5 million – 3% chance of $2.6 - $5 million • Why hire litigators? – Why conduct discovery?
  • 29. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman What does this mean? • Clients can go to Oklahoma, Des Moines (not NYC) • Lawyer at $250/hour – Why hire big-firm NYC lawyer at $2,000/hour?
  • 30. © 2019 Ross Fishman ETHICS AND AI
  • 31. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Attorney-Client Privilege • Can you have attorney-client privilege between a client and an AI robot-lawyer? • Too far away to answer this question • But what ethical rules do or will apply to AI?
  • 32. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Duty of Competence. ABA Rule 1.1 • Duty of proficiency in the law • Duty to keep abreast of changes in law and its practice, – Including risks and benefits re new technology • Balance between: – Embracing new technology, and – Avoiding unnecessarily risky ones • Risks exist both for early adopters and Luddites. • Needn’t be an expert on predictive coding, but can’t ignore it if you have a case with 1,000s of documents
  • 33. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Duty of Supervision. ABA Rules 5.1, 5.3 • Duty to supervise the work of non-lawyers – Their conduct must comply with lawyer’s obligations – Historically applied to humans • What if AI is making decisions or performing work that is like delivering legal services – Preparing documents – Making decisions about w/n to produce documents • Sounds like it…?
  • 34. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Duty of Supervision. ABA Rules 5.1, 5.3 • AIs can work with much larger data sets than humans – Can base decisions on complex patterns or algorithms – We can’t conduct that analysis • What if we don’t understand the AI’s reasoning? – Can you meet your ethical obligation? • How can you supervise something “smarter” than you?
  • 35. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Confidentiality • AI applications are provided by third-party companies • AI analysis improves with larger data sets • May AI companies commingle all of their customers’ data into one database? • What if they get data from both sides? – Does it train the system to beat you?
  • 36. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Unauthorized Practice of Law • Lawyers can’t practice where they’re not licensed – UPL standards for AI are generally unclear • AI robot-lawyers may soon deliver legal services – Are they subject to State Bar licensure requirements? • Can IBM’s Watson “pass the bar?” – Should it?
  • 37. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Unauthorized Practice of Law • Software cannot provide legal advice • Texas statute ― the practice of law does not include the “design, creation, publication, distribution, display or sale of computer software or similar products” • Requires disclaimer that they’re not a substitute for the advice of counsel.
  • 38. © 2019 Ross Fishman LEGAL RESEARCH
  • 39. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Legal research • Literal search relies on people to interpret – Sift through the responses to see what's relevant – Watson knows what's contextually relevant – Traditional search can't tell • Artificial intelligence can • Enhances and expedites expertise
  • 40. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Legal research • ROSS Intelligence can sort a billion text documents per second • It learns from feedback, gets smarter • “To put it another way, ROSS and Watson are learning to understand the law, not just translate words and syntax into search results.” • $4 billion annual spend disappears
  • 41. © 2019 Ross Fishman WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
  • 42. © 2019 Ross Fishman The typical reaction Wow, AI sounds revolutionary! But… here’s why it doesn’t apply to me. Computers and data have been around for decades. My expertise is what’s really important.
  • 43. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman “My expertise is what’s important.” • “Really? • The next time you’re with your doctor, consider which you want: 1. His “expertise” • i.e. gut feeling and diagnosis 2. A thorough evidence-based analysis
  • 44. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman “30% reduction in outside counsel spend”
  • 45. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Our Reasoning can be replaced • Reasoning traditionally done by attorneys can be replaced or supplemented by predictions made by computers. • It won’t replace lawyers • But it’ll replace some of it • How much…?
  • 46. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Books for sale by Ross Fishman STRATEGY AND BRANDINGASSOCIATE MARKETING Buy it at Amazon: goo.gl/rxWSfH Buy it at Amazon: goo.gl/svDLXF Ultimate Law Firm Associate’s Marketing Checklist: – The Renowned Step-By-Step, Year-By-Year Process For Lawyers Who Want To Develop Clients. We’re Smart. We’re Old. And We’re the Best at Everything. • The World’s First No-BS Guide to Legal Marketing and Branding.
  • 47. © 2019 Ross Fishman© 2019 Ross Fishman Need a new brand or website? A marketing plan or ads? Call us! Ross Fishman, JD CEO, Fishman Marketing, Inc. Work: +1.847.432.3546 Cell: +1.847.921.7677 ross@fishmanmarketing.com www.fishmanmarketing.com Subscribe to our blog: fishmanmarketing.com/blog Connect with us: Twitter: @rossfishman LinkedIn.com/in/rossfishman © 2019 Fishman Marketing, Inc.