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Distributed Maritime Logistics in a Contested Environment:
A Case Study on EABO
All information contained herein is unclassified
The Project Agrippa Team
Project Sponsor
Dr. Jason Stack
Professor
Steve Blank
Professor
Dr. Joe Felter,
DASD South and
Southeast Asia
(Fmr.)
David Hoyt
Education
- JDStanford Law‘20
- MBAStanford GSB‘20
- BAInternational Relations ‘13,
Stanford
Work Experience
- Venture Capital Investing
- Technology &Start-ups
- Law
- Consulting
- Automotive Industry
dhoyt@stanford.edu
Jonathan Deemer
Education
- JDStanford Law‘23
- MAInternational Policy ‘23
- BAInternational Relations, Union
College, NE
- BS Business Administration,
Union College, NE
Work Experience
- DIU-funded cUAS start-up
- Think tanks (Hoover, AEI,
Hudson)
jdeemer@stanford.edu
Jack Carney
Education
- BAEconomics ‘21, Stanford
Work Experience
- Management Consulting
- AviationConsulting
- FintechStart-up
jcarney@stanford.edu
William Healzer
Education
- BAHPolitical Science and
History ‘22, Stanford
Work Experience
- Defense Technology
- Think tanks (CSIS, IST, Hoover
Institution)
whealzer@stanford.edu
Kyle Duchynski
Education
- MS Management Science &
Engineering ‘22, Stanford
- BAEconomics and International
Security Studies ‘21, Stanford
Work Experience
- OSD-Policy
- Private Equity
- House of Representatives
(Rep.
ColleenHanabusa)
kyleduke@stanford.edu
Project Agrippa’s Origin Story
Stanford’s Technology, Innovation, and
Modern War Fall ‘20 emphasized
competition isn’t just technology—it is how
you employ it
Our group sought to pioneer a novel
Hacking for Strategy course model
(forthcoming), using the Lean methodology
for future Concepts of Operations
8 weeks later U.S. Pacific Fleet requested we redact portions of our brief
This is Project Agrippa’s story
The United States Navy needs new operational concepts
to incorporate emerging technologies in order to
successfully compete and deter aggression in the Indo-
Pacific.
Original Sponsor (ONR) Problem Statement
Agrippa’s Starting Point
Decent foundation on China
Working understanding of
SE Asia
No naval know-how
No knowledge of how the
DoD functions
Political Scientists’
understanding of tech
Novel problem set & unclear problem
statement but a lot of gumption
Our Journey Over the Last 15 Weeks
Link to Appendixes
Conducted 350+ Interviews & Outbriefs Reviewed 20+ reports Read 50+ books
“The process you used is more important than the product” - ADM Scott Swift [during an Agrippa interview]
Process 1: Problem & Customer Discovery
Process 3: Deployment Strategy
Process 2: Solution Iteration
10 weeks of H4D Lean Methodology 10 weeks of Post-Course Work
In order to retain credible conventional deterrence
against the PRC in the Indo-Pacific, U.S. joint forces
must develop, acquire, and employ a distributed,
survivable force to impose increased costs for the PRC.
This strategy depends on distributed, discrete, low-
cost logistics systems that can survive within the WEZ.
Project Agrippa Problem Statement
Project Agrippa’s Starting Point—the library
Original Hypothesis to test: Exquisite, legacy U.S. maritime platforms cannot survive
within the weapons engagement zone (“WEZ”), eroding conventional U.S. deterrence
WEEK 1 MVP: Is Naval warfare is going undersea?
1
“Whenever you face a new problem, it is time to crack open an old book” - Submarine Captain
The team read over 50 books to understand the problem
Interview Strategy
Interview Introductions
At the end of each
interview, the team
would ask the
interviewee for 2-3 new
contacts and built the
flywheel for more
interviews
Teaching Team / Mentors
The teaching team and
our mentors gave
Agrippa its initial set of
interview
introductions.
Read A Book,
Email the Author
The team read multiple
books and think tank
reports, and then cold
emailed the authors to
talk about their
research.
The Agrippa Team has built templates to help support you!
Understanding the PRC Challenge in the Indo-Pacific
A2/AD Research Sprint
Created open-source satellite
imagery maps of A2/AD ecosystem
WEEK 2 MVP takeaway: A2/AD threat is real and credible
2
U.S. Grand Strategy: A free and open maritime trade environment in the Indo-Pacific supports both global &
U.S. economies and creates prosperity. This strategy follows Mahanian logic and benefits regional powers.
U.S. Strategy: U.S. Grand Strategy is underpinned by U.S. regional power projection as regional peace is not
self-sustaining. Thus, the United States must actively maintain credible conventional deterrence and/or seek
partners to share the burden of policing the region. Currently, U.S. power projection is based on large,
exquisite, expensive legacy platforms.
PRC Challenge: The PRC is a revisionist power and seeks to exert regional influence and revise both the
regional and international orders for its benefit. These ambitions run counter to both U.S. interests and the
interests of other regional actors.
Bottom Line: U.S. Strategy towards the PRC can be summarized as “Not today, Xi”
U.S. Regional Strategic Interests
The PRC has and continues to invest in asymmetric capabilities and platforms matched specifically to erode U.S. capabilities.
The bundle of PRC capabilities is referred to as Anti-Access / Area Denial or A2/AD
1. A2/AD fuses the concepts of “Sea Denial,” the “Fortress Fleet,”and Maoist “Active Defense” with 21st century
technology to combine land-to-surface, surface-to-surface, subsea-to-surface, air-to-surface with cyber, anti-sat, and
EW.
2. The strategy’s core is long-range anti-ship ballistic missiles that outrange U.S. conventional kinetic power projection.
3. A2/AD is both a conventional threat and a psychological competition; the PRC seeks to frame the A2/AD discussion as a
fait accompli of inevitable PRC achievement of its desired outcomes in order to erode U.S. resolve to deter.
Defining the A2/AD Problem
● A2/AD fuses “Sea
Denial,” the “Fortress
Fleet,”and Maoist
“Active Defense” with
asymmetric
capabilities
● A2/AD is both a
conventional threat
and a psychological
competition
Open Source A2/AD Map
Vietnam:
The Four No’s strategic
defense policy is not
conducive to U.S. basing
Philippines:
Cooperation is increasingly
uncertain under Duterte, but
the PHL Navy remains
committed
Japan:
Japan is one of the United
States’ strongest regional
allies
Regional Partner
Assumptions
Countries operate on
continuum of
cooperation
Basing may differ
based on lethality of
U.S. mission
ROK:
Unless threatened,
unlikely to support U.S.
basing as Seoul becomes
increasingly caught in a
bind by the PRC.
Australia:
Australia is one of the
United States’ strongest
regional allies
Indonesia and
Malaysia:
Sovereignty concerns yield
hedging strategy that
balances the United States
and the PRC
Singapore:
Singapore has historically
supported logistics basing
?
Taiwan:
Potentially committed to U.S.
basing if greater threatened and
feasible.
?
Project Agrippa Selects the Marine Corps’ Expeditionary
Advanced Base Operations (EABO) Concept for Further Study
EABO Counters A2/AD
EABO provides U.S. maritime forces with a
distributed and survivable force able to
impose costs on the PRC within the A2/AD
threat environment
Agrippa crafts its own EABO implementation
map
Agrippa followed Gen.
Berger’s EABO remarks
3
REDACTED
3
Then the Marines Called Us
Sustainment is an unsolved pain point
III MEF
(Marine Expeditionary Force stationed in Okinawa)
Project Agrippa rapidly pivoted to focus on EABO
logistics
Logistics is the Achilles Heel for America in the Indo-Pacific
3
Team morale plummeted as the scope
of logistical problems increased
But our resolve hardened
Distributed lethality meets logistics
Logistics must also become decentralized, attritible, and discrete to increase
survivability of U.S. assets, impose costs on the PRC, paralyze the PRC’s OODA
loop, and ultimately decrease PRC lethality
Distributed logistics is a tactical enabler that supports strategic deterrence
We proposed new
platforms but how would
they work?
4
Technical specifications
determined by:
1. Arbitrarily define
requirements;
2. Ask for feedback from
SMEs;
3. Refine across 350+
interviews
5
Establishing Stakeholder Buy-in in a 350,000+ Person Org
7
Establishing Stakeholder Buy-in in a 350,000+ Person Org
7
INDOPACOM,
Pacific Fleet, and
Marine Forces
Pacific are key
end beneficiaries
Establishing Stakeholder Buy-in in a 350,000+ Person Org
7
The acquisition arm
of the Department
of the Navy is also
essential
To convince our stakeholders, we
chose to get out of the building
Jack Carney untangled the DoD
bureaucracy, cold calling 100+ officials
and inviting them for outbriefs
DLA - Indo Pacific
Commander, Deputy
Commander, Chief of
Staff (on their day
off)
4 cities, 6 bases, 100+ officials, 1 week
18 MEDCOM
I MEF
G2, G35, G4,
G5
INDOPACOM
J00, J46, J5, J9, CNA,
ONR, SOCPAC
MARFORPAC
G4, G5, G8, G9,
ONR, J46
PACFLT
N4, N5, N8, N9,
ONR, SOCPAC,
CAG
NSWC
N4, N5, N9, ONR
OPNAV
N7
Rep. Colleen
Hanabusa (Ret.)
What did we learn “getting outside the building”?
● We knew nothing to start
● Our value lay in breaking down information barriers
○ Interviewees rarely knew about process or system beyond the limited purview of their job
(frequently due to design of the overall system)
● Often, right conversations with right stakeholders not happening
○ Agrippa as external shock to system being outside formal chain of command
● Vastly underestimated experts’ willingness to talk and engage
○ Never be afraid to ask the simple or obvious question - helps both you and interviewee
● Created networks that continue to yield value for Agrippa and each of us
personally
Final MVP - Brief Designed for Identified Stakeholders
[1] The A2/AD Problem [2] REDACTED [3] REDACTED
[4] REDACTED [5] REDACTED [6] REDACTED [7] Stakeholder Deployment
REDACTED REDACTED
REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED
“This is the best brief we have seen in 3 years. … Lockheed Martin, Raytheon,
Northrop Grumman come and pitch us but your presentation was better.”
U.S. Pacific Fleet
It is imperative America gets
competition with the PRC right.
The stakes could not be higher.
The Way Forward
● Project Agrippa has continued its work far beyond the
class, with further outbriefs to stakeholders in person
and virtually in Washington, D.C., MCB Quantico, San
Diego, Hawaii, and Japan.
● We continue to build stakeholder buy in and support for
our project.
● The Lean Methodology continues to be our guiding core
principles, which enables our continued success.
● We are excited to share our lessons learned with you
and your team as we continue our work!

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Project Agrippa TIGPC

  • 1. Distributed Maritime Logistics in a Contested Environment: A Case Study on EABO All information contained herein is unclassified
  • 2. The Project Agrippa Team Project Sponsor Dr. Jason Stack Professor Steve Blank Professor Dr. Joe Felter, DASD South and Southeast Asia (Fmr.) David Hoyt Education - JDStanford Law‘20 - MBAStanford GSB‘20 - BAInternational Relations ‘13, Stanford Work Experience - Venture Capital Investing - Technology &Start-ups - Law - Consulting - Automotive Industry dhoyt@stanford.edu Jonathan Deemer Education - JDStanford Law‘23 - MAInternational Policy ‘23 - BAInternational Relations, Union College, NE - BS Business Administration, Union College, NE Work Experience - DIU-funded cUAS start-up - Think tanks (Hoover, AEI, Hudson) jdeemer@stanford.edu Jack Carney Education - BAEconomics ‘21, Stanford Work Experience - Management Consulting - AviationConsulting - FintechStart-up jcarney@stanford.edu William Healzer Education - BAHPolitical Science and History ‘22, Stanford Work Experience - Defense Technology - Think tanks (CSIS, IST, Hoover Institution) whealzer@stanford.edu Kyle Duchynski Education - MS Management Science & Engineering ‘22, Stanford - BAEconomics and International Security Studies ‘21, Stanford Work Experience - OSD-Policy - Private Equity - House of Representatives (Rep. ColleenHanabusa) kyleduke@stanford.edu
  • 3. Project Agrippa’s Origin Story Stanford’s Technology, Innovation, and Modern War Fall ‘20 emphasized competition isn’t just technology—it is how you employ it Our group sought to pioneer a novel Hacking for Strategy course model (forthcoming), using the Lean methodology for future Concepts of Operations 8 weeks later U.S. Pacific Fleet requested we redact portions of our brief This is Project Agrippa’s story
  • 4. The United States Navy needs new operational concepts to incorporate emerging technologies in order to successfully compete and deter aggression in the Indo- Pacific. Original Sponsor (ONR) Problem Statement
  • 5. Agrippa’s Starting Point Decent foundation on China Working understanding of SE Asia No naval know-how No knowledge of how the DoD functions Political Scientists’ understanding of tech Novel problem set & unclear problem statement but a lot of gumption
  • 6. Our Journey Over the Last 15 Weeks Link to Appendixes Conducted 350+ Interviews & Outbriefs Reviewed 20+ reports Read 50+ books “The process you used is more important than the product” - ADM Scott Swift [during an Agrippa interview] Process 1: Problem & Customer Discovery Process 3: Deployment Strategy Process 2: Solution Iteration 10 weeks of H4D Lean Methodology 10 weeks of Post-Course Work
  • 7. In order to retain credible conventional deterrence against the PRC in the Indo-Pacific, U.S. joint forces must develop, acquire, and employ a distributed, survivable force to impose increased costs for the PRC. This strategy depends on distributed, discrete, low- cost logistics systems that can survive within the WEZ. Project Agrippa Problem Statement
  • 8. Project Agrippa’s Starting Point—the library Original Hypothesis to test: Exquisite, legacy U.S. maritime platforms cannot survive within the weapons engagement zone (“WEZ”), eroding conventional U.S. deterrence WEEK 1 MVP: Is Naval warfare is going undersea? 1 “Whenever you face a new problem, it is time to crack open an old book” - Submarine Captain The team read over 50 books to understand the problem
  • 9. Interview Strategy Interview Introductions At the end of each interview, the team would ask the interviewee for 2-3 new contacts and built the flywheel for more interviews Teaching Team / Mentors The teaching team and our mentors gave Agrippa its initial set of interview introductions. Read A Book, Email the Author The team read multiple books and think tank reports, and then cold emailed the authors to talk about their research.
  • 10. The Agrippa Team has built templates to help support you!
  • 11. Understanding the PRC Challenge in the Indo-Pacific A2/AD Research Sprint Created open-source satellite imagery maps of A2/AD ecosystem WEEK 2 MVP takeaway: A2/AD threat is real and credible 2
  • 12. U.S. Grand Strategy: A free and open maritime trade environment in the Indo-Pacific supports both global & U.S. economies and creates prosperity. This strategy follows Mahanian logic and benefits regional powers. U.S. Strategy: U.S. Grand Strategy is underpinned by U.S. regional power projection as regional peace is not self-sustaining. Thus, the United States must actively maintain credible conventional deterrence and/or seek partners to share the burden of policing the region. Currently, U.S. power projection is based on large, exquisite, expensive legacy platforms. PRC Challenge: The PRC is a revisionist power and seeks to exert regional influence and revise both the regional and international orders for its benefit. These ambitions run counter to both U.S. interests and the interests of other regional actors. Bottom Line: U.S. Strategy towards the PRC can be summarized as “Not today, Xi” U.S. Regional Strategic Interests
  • 13. The PRC has and continues to invest in asymmetric capabilities and platforms matched specifically to erode U.S. capabilities. The bundle of PRC capabilities is referred to as Anti-Access / Area Denial or A2/AD 1. A2/AD fuses the concepts of “Sea Denial,” the “Fortress Fleet,”and Maoist “Active Defense” with 21st century technology to combine land-to-surface, surface-to-surface, subsea-to-surface, air-to-surface with cyber, anti-sat, and EW. 2. The strategy’s core is long-range anti-ship ballistic missiles that outrange U.S. conventional kinetic power projection. 3. A2/AD is both a conventional threat and a psychological competition; the PRC seeks to frame the A2/AD discussion as a fait accompli of inevitable PRC achievement of its desired outcomes in order to erode U.S. resolve to deter. Defining the A2/AD Problem
  • 14. ● A2/AD fuses “Sea Denial,” the “Fortress Fleet,”and Maoist “Active Defense” with asymmetric capabilities ● A2/AD is both a conventional threat and a psychological competition Open Source A2/AD Map
  • 15. Vietnam: The Four No’s strategic defense policy is not conducive to U.S. basing Philippines: Cooperation is increasingly uncertain under Duterte, but the PHL Navy remains committed Japan: Japan is one of the United States’ strongest regional allies Regional Partner Assumptions Countries operate on continuum of cooperation Basing may differ based on lethality of U.S. mission ROK: Unless threatened, unlikely to support U.S. basing as Seoul becomes increasingly caught in a bind by the PRC. Australia: Australia is one of the United States’ strongest regional allies Indonesia and Malaysia: Sovereignty concerns yield hedging strategy that balances the United States and the PRC Singapore: Singapore has historically supported logistics basing ? Taiwan: Potentially committed to U.S. basing if greater threatened and feasible. ?
  • 16. Project Agrippa Selects the Marine Corps’ Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations (EABO) Concept for Further Study EABO Counters A2/AD EABO provides U.S. maritime forces with a distributed and survivable force able to impose costs on the PRC within the A2/AD threat environment Agrippa crafts its own EABO implementation map Agrippa followed Gen. Berger’s EABO remarks 3 REDACTED
  • 17. 3 Then the Marines Called Us
  • 18. Sustainment is an unsolved pain point III MEF (Marine Expeditionary Force stationed in Okinawa)
  • 19. Project Agrippa rapidly pivoted to focus on EABO logistics Logistics is the Achilles Heel for America in the Indo-Pacific 3
  • 20. Team morale plummeted as the scope of logistical problems increased But our resolve hardened
  • 21. Distributed lethality meets logistics Logistics must also become decentralized, attritible, and discrete to increase survivability of U.S. assets, impose costs on the PRC, paralyze the PRC’s OODA loop, and ultimately decrease PRC lethality Distributed logistics is a tactical enabler that supports strategic deterrence
  • 22. We proposed new platforms but how would they work? 4
  • 23. Technical specifications determined by: 1. Arbitrarily define requirements; 2. Ask for feedback from SMEs; 3. Refine across 350+ interviews 5
  • 24. Establishing Stakeholder Buy-in in a 350,000+ Person Org 7
  • 25. Establishing Stakeholder Buy-in in a 350,000+ Person Org 7 INDOPACOM, Pacific Fleet, and Marine Forces Pacific are key end beneficiaries
  • 26. Establishing Stakeholder Buy-in in a 350,000+ Person Org 7 The acquisition arm of the Department of the Navy is also essential
  • 27. To convince our stakeholders, we chose to get out of the building Jack Carney untangled the DoD bureaucracy, cold calling 100+ officials and inviting them for outbriefs
  • 28. DLA - Indo Pacific Commander, Deputy Commander, Chief of Staff (on their day off) 4 cities, 6 bases, 100+ officials, 1 week 18 MEDCOM I MEF G2, G35, G4, G5 INDOPACOM J00, J46, J5, J9, CNA, ONR, SOCPAC MARFORPAC G4, G5, G8, G9, ONR, J46 PACFLT N4, N5, N8, N9, ONR, SOCPAC, CAG NSWC N4, N5, N9, ONR OPNAV N7 Rep. Colleen Hanabusa (Ret.)
  • 29. What did we learn “getting outside the building”? ● We knew nothing to start ● Our value lay in breaking down information barriers ○ Interviewees rarely knew about process or system beyond the limited purview of their job (frequently due to design of the overall system) ● Often, right conversations with right stakeholders not happening ○ Agrippa as external shock to system being outside formal chain of command ● Vastly underestimated experts’ willingness to talk and engage ○ Never be afraid to ask the simple or obvious question - helps both you and interviewee ● Created networks that continue to yield value for Agrippa and each of us personally
  • 30. Final MVP - Brief Designed for Identified Stakeholders [1] The A2/AD Problem [2] REDACTED [3] REDACTED [4] REDACTED [5] REDACTED [6] REDACTED [7] Stakeholder Deployment REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED “This is the best brief we have seen in 3 years. … Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman come and pitch us but your presentation was better.” U.S. Pacific Fleet
  • 31. It is imperative America gets competition with the PRC right. The stakes could not be higher.
  • 32. The Way Forward ● Project Agrippa has continued its work far beyond the class, with further outbriefs to stakeholders in person and virtually in Washington, D.C., MCB Quantico, San Diego, Hawaii, and Japan. ● We continue to build stakeholder buy in and support for our project. ● The Lean Methodology continues to be our guiding core principles, which enables our continued success. ● We are excited to share our lessons learned with you and your team as we continue our work!