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Rob 
Bristow, 
NREN 
Exchange 
Fellow, 
TENET 
23/10/2014 
Video-conferencing as an NREN Service
Introductions 
» Who 
am 
I? 
› On 
secondment 
from 
Jisc 
in 
the 
UK 
for 
two 
years 
– Part 
of 
Jisc 
Futures 
division 
– Worked 
at 
Jisc 
on 
video-­‐conferencing 
projects 
› What 
is 
Jisc? 
– UK 
NREN 
parent 
company 
– Janet 
is 
the 
TENET 
equivalent 
– Jisc 
runs 
services 
and 
development 
programmes 
in 
all 
areas 
of 
technology 
and 
tertiary 
education 
› What 
do 
I/Jisc 
know 
about 
video-­‐conferencing 
and 
education? 
– Quite 
a 
lot!
What 
is 
Video 
enabled 
collaboration? 
Teliris 
Express 
Telepresence 
conference 
» Anything 
that 
involves 
collaboration 
and 
video 
(but 
may 
also 
include 
other 
things) 
» From 
Telepresence 
to 
the 
desktop 
» Room-­‐based 
conferencing 
» Desktop 
conferencing 
» Web 
conferencing 
» These 
things 
are 
now 
converging 
– 
mobile 
is 
here 
» The 
goal 
is 
a 
system 
that 
spans 
from 
web-­‐conferencing 
to 
Tele-­‐Presence 
» How 
to 
join 
things 
up? 
» Interoperability! 
Desktop 
Conferencing 
using 
Vidyo
What’s 
wrong 
with 
conferencing? 
» The 
room 
is 
booked 
out 
or 
locked 
» The 
support 
people 
have 
gone 
home 
» The 
equipment 
is 
out 
of 
commission 
» There 
is 
echo 
on 
the 
audio 
feed 
» The 
screen 
only 
shows 
tiny 
thumbnails 
of 
participants 
» The 
network 
is 
up 
and 
down 
and 
the 
video 
quality 
makes 
this 
system 
unusable 
» I 
can 
conference 
from 
a 
room 
but 
why 
can’t 
I 
join 
from 
my 
laptop 
or 
cell 
phone 
or 
iPad 
at 
my 
desk, 
or 
at 
home 
or 
from 
anywhere 
in 
the 
world? 
» I 
want 
to 
easily 
share 
content 
from 
whichever 
device 
I 
am 
using 
» Etc… 
26/11/2013 
Jisc 
Co-­‐design 
4
Video-­‐conferencing 
» Parts 
to 
this 
presentation: 
› The 
changing 
landscape 
of 
video-­‐conferencing 
› Meeting 
the 
needs 
of 
South 
African 
Higher 
Education 
› TENET’s 
plans 
5
Jisc 
Project 
conclusions 
» There 
are 
considerable 
benefits 
accruing 
from, 
and 
opportunities 
for 
more, 
virtual 
meetings 
» Virtual 
meetings 
don’t 
always 
replace 
travel 
› new 
uses 
› stimulating 
contact 
» Considerable 
CO2 
benefits 
for 
all 
› largest 
element 
in 
research 
intensive 
universities 
is 
(long 
haul) 
air 
» Air 
travel 
generally 
dominates 
CO2 
equivalent 
travel 
» But 
overall 
business 
benefits 
are 
mainly 
related 
to 
short-­‐medium 
distance 
travel 
air 
travel 
» Best 
maybe 
to 
target 
UNPRODUCTIVE 
travel? 
6
State 
of 
play 
of 
conferencing 
09/10/14 
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7
“Legacy” 
conferencing 
» Otherwise 
known 
as 
H.323 
or 
SIP 
or 
standards 
based 
» The 
old 
way 
– 
expensive 
room 
based 
systems 
and 
heavy 
duty 
back 
end 
processing 
» Betrays 
its 
telecommunications 
roots 
» Only 
now 
waking 
up 
to 
the 
growth 
of 
demand 
for 
mobile 
and 
desktop 
conferencing 
» Easy 
to 
use 
(relatively) 
» Limited 
functionality 
beyond 
video 
and 
audio 
(e.g. 
content 
sharing) 
» Vendors 
include 
Polycom, 
Lifesize, 
Ayaya, 
Cisco, 
etc. 
» Business 
– 
not 
education 
focused 
Polycom 
TPX 
204M 
09/10/14 
TENET 
8
Web 
conferencing 
» The 
other 
end 
of 
the 
spectrum 
» Content 
is 
king 
– 
so 
presentation 
is 
centre 
stage 
» Video 
and 
audio 
not 
usually 
as 
well 
done. 
Lack 
of 
echo-­‐cancellation 
can 
cause 
really 
bad 
problems 
» Good 
for 
push 
– 
webinar 
or 
where 
interaction 
is 
not 
so 
important 
» Examples 
include 
Adobe 
Connect, 
Cisco 
Webex, 
Blackboard 
Collaborate 
and 
Big 
Blue 
Button 
(open 
source) 
» Doesn’t 
really 
move 
off 
the 
desktop 
to 
enable 
bigger 
groups 
to 
interact 
09/10/14 
TENET 
9
Consumer 
and 
desktop 
clients 
» Skype 
› Great 
for 
one 
to 
ones 
and 
presence 
› Network 
parasite 
› Can’t 
interoperate 
with 
anything 
else 
» FaceTime 
› Apple 
only 
» Lync 
› Part 
of 
the 
MS 
Office 
stack 
– 
so 
on 
a 
lot 
of 
desktops 
› Replacing 
traditional 
telephony 
– 
soft 
phones 
› Can 
interoperate 
with 
many 
other 
systems 
› One 
to 
watch 
09/10/14 
TENET 
10
“Modern” 
approaches 
» These 
use 
variants 
of 
the 
SVC 
extension 
to 
theH.264 
video 
compression 
standard 
(Annex 
G) 
» Sends 
a 
base 
layer 
which 
is 
enough 
– 
and 
then 
enhancement 
layers 
as 
the 
circumstances 
dictate 
» Traffic 
goes 
through 
a 
media 
router 
– 
but 
the 
decoding/encoding 
is 
done 
intelligently 
on 
the 
end 
points 
» Endpoints 
get 
the 
resolution 
and 
detail 
they 
can 
handle 
» Advantages: 
› Efficient 
low 
cost 
infrastructure 
– 
backend 
is 
much 
cheaper 
than 
traditional 
MCUs 
› Excellent 
network 
resilience 
-­‐ 
copes 
well 
with 
variable 
bandwidth 
situations 
› Real 
time 
adaption 
– 
constant 
tailoring 
of 
what 
gets 
sent 
to 
each 
end 
point 
› Flexibility 
» Gateways 
to 
H.323/SIP 
world 
are 
available 
» Lync 
and 
Outlook 
integration 
09/10/14 
TENET 
11
Cloud 
services 
& 
Integrators 
» But 
we 
may 
still 
have 
islands 
on 
video-­‐ 
conferencing 
» Enter 
the 
integrators 
and 
cloud 
services 
» But 
most 
of 
these 
mean 
traffic 
going 
to 
Europe 
or 
the 
US 
– 
so 
not 
really 
an 
option 
at 
present 
in 
South 
Africa 
» Promise 
of 
any 
system 
connecting 
to 
any 
system 
09/10/14 
TENET 
12
Some 
emerging 
themes 
» Software 
endpoints 
and 
infrastructure 
› Much 
cheaper 
› More 
flexible 
› User 
provisioned 
and 
launched 
» Cloud 
based 
offerings 
– 
pay 
for 
what 
you 
use 
» Desktop 
and 
mobile 
– 
connect 
from 
anywhere 
» Unified 
communications 
– 
presence, 
IM, 
telephony 
and 
video 
» The 
right 
tool 
for 
the 
job 
» Video 
in 
browser 
– 
WebRCT 
09/10/14 
TENET 
13
So 
what 
to 
use? 
» What 
do 
you 
want 
to 
do 
› Teaching 
and 
learning 
› Research 
collaboration 
and 
coordination 
› Outreach 
› Administration 
» What 
does 
you 
have 
in 
your 
university? 
› Rooms 
› Desktop 
» What 
can 
you 
get 
access 
to 
via 
the 
cloud? 
› Some 
of 
the 
new 
approaches 
can 
be 
run 
in 
a 
browser 
– 
Web 
RCT 
09/10/14 
TENET 
14
UK 
Developments 
» Old 
offering 
was 
a 
farm 
of 
MCUs 
and 
a 
rather 
clunky 
booking 
service, 
along 
with 
a 
dreadful 
desktop 
client 
» Some 
advice 
and 
guidance 
on 
purchasing 
and 
use 
» Quality 
assurance 
of 
endpoints 
» But 
use 
was 
patchy 
and 
seemed 
mostly 
directed 
at 
schools 
» Some 
heavy 
use 
in 
colleges 
with 
multiple 
sites 
» New 
Platform 
incorporating 
Vidyo 
for 
desktop/personal 
and 
Cisco 
MCUs 
for 
H.323/SIP 
09/10/14 
TENET 
15
VIDYO 
» Best 
of 
breed 
(IOHO) 
» Scalable, 
modular, 
flexible, 
configurable 
» Mostly 
virtualised 
» Good 
traction 
in 
research 
communities 
(CERN, 
SKA) 
» Desktop 
and 
web 
client 
› All 
participants 
can 
share 
content 
» All 
registered 
user 
get 
a 
virtual 
meeting 
room 
» Room 
systems 
» Gateway 
to 
H.323/SIP 
» Pay 
as 
you 
use 
pricing 
model 
» API 
and 
SDK 
allows 
for 
custom 
intgration 
options 
09/10/14 
TENET 
16
Vidyo 
at 
CERN 
» CERN 
needed 
to 
scale 
V-­‐C 
capabilities 
» Traditional 
V-­‐C 
was 
way 
too 
expensive 
» Settled 
on 
Vidyo 
» 20,000 
user 
accounts 
» Routers 
in 
many 
locations 
(one 
coming 
on 
line 
in 
Cape 
Town) 
» Over 
800 
concurrent 
connections 
at 
peak 
» Cool 
graphic 
here: 
http://avc-­‐dashboard.web.cern.ch/Vidyo 
» CERN 
asked 
TENET 
to 
provide 
hosting 
for 
Vidyo 
Router 
for 
SA 
use 
09/10/14 
TENET 
17
Vidyo 
at 
SKA 
» Needed 
to 
expand 
video-­‐conferencing 
hugely 
» Existing 
and 
emerging 
H.323/SIP 
technologies 
were 
difficult 
to 
use, 
and 
very 
expensive 
and 
were 
not 
good 
for 
the 
desktop/mobile 
» Trialled 
other 
systems 
(Zoom, 
Blue 
Jeans), 
as 
well 
as 
consumer 
level 
applications 
(Skype, 
Google 
Hangouts) 
but 
came 
down 
for 
Vidyo 
» It 
is 
planned 
that 
South 
African 
end 
of 
SKA 
will 
use 
Tenet 
service 
09/10/14 
TENET 
19
Vidyo 
Infrastructure 
» Portal 
(VM) 
› Authentication 
and 
licensing 
› Tenant 
set 
up 
and 
Admin 
– Capable 
of 
handling 
multiple 
tenants 
(i.e., 
one 
per 
university 
or 
even 
more 
finely 
grained) 
» Router 
(VM) 
› Intelligent 
packet 
switching, 
so 
no 
decode/compose/re-­‐encode 
overhead 
– 
tailors 
video 
feeds 
to 
match 
each 
end 
point 
abilities 
› Up 
to 
100 
concurrent 
users 
per 
router 
» Gateway 
(Vidyo 
hardware) 
› Link 
to 
H.323/SIP 
systems 
» Replay 
(Vidyo 
hardware) 
› Recording 
and 
streaming 
server 
09/10/14 
TENET 
20
Vidyo 
Infrastructure 
Part 
2 
09/10/14 
TENET 
21
Enhancement 
Layer 
Base 
Layer 
AVC 
-­‐ 
Single 
Layer 
vs. 
SVC 
-­‐ 
Multi-­‐Layer 
Single Layer (AVC) Significant 
Impact 
Multi-layer (SVC) 
Minor 
or 
No 
Impact 
Source 
-­‐ 
Vidyo
Possible 
model 
of 
provision 
» Pay 
as 
you 
use 
model 
› X 
Rand 
per 
named 
user 
who 
uses 
the 
system 
in 
a 
given 
month 
– Don’t 
for 
forget 
that 
users 
can 
invite 
guests 
who 
do 
not 
count 
towards 
that 
number 
of 
users 
– Cost 
per 
user 
decreases 
as 
number 
of 
users 
grows 
» TENET 
will 
provide 
virtual 
machines 
to 
run 
most 
of 
the 
infrastructure 
and 
buy 
some 
Vidyo 
kit 
(Gateways) 
› Institutions 
can 
manage 
their 
Tenant 
areas 
– 
connect 
to 
LDAP 
and 
AD 
» Support 
within 
office 
hours 
» Training, 
familarisation, 
evangelism 
publicity 
materials, 
etc 
» This 
is 
not 
“Rip 
& 
Replace” 
– 
your 
H.323 
investments 
can 
co-­‐ 
exist 
and 
will 
reach 
a 
whole 
lot 
more 
people 
› Also 
– 
you 
can 
easily 
bring 
your 
Lync 
users 
to 
the 
party 
09/10/14 
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23
Who 
will 
use 
it? 
» Admin 
› Split 
sites 
› Cross 
institutional 
organisations 
» Research 
collaboration 
› Project 
management 
» Teaching 
and 
learning 
› Video-­‐conferencing 
everywhere 
› Record 
sessions 
or 
stream 
to 
wider 
internet 
› Role 
here 
for 
Web-­‐conferencing 
– But 
probably 
not 
Adobe 
Connect 
as 
cost 
implications 
are 
worrying 
if 
usage 
took 
off 
Looking 
with 
SANReN 
at 
Mconf 
(Supported 
by 
Brazilian 
NREN) 
09/10/14 
TENET 
24
And 
finally 
– 
some 
words 
of 
advice 
» Local 
Network 
Configuration 
needs 
to 
be 
stable, 
and 
in 
particular 
firewalls 
need 
to 
be 
correctly 
configured. 
» Room 
systems 
need 
to 
be 
properly 
configured 
including 
network 
and 
routing 
settings. 
» Meeting 
rooms 
need 
to 
have 
good 
acoustics 
and 
good 
light 
» Provide 
good 
quality 
audio 
play 
back 
in 
rooms 
» Laptop 
/ 
PC 
/ 
mobile 
users 
need 
to 
have 
reasonable 
spec 
hardware 
& 
preferably 
headset 
and 
microphone 
(although 
Vidyo 
has 
built 
in 
echo 
cancellation) 
» Laptop 
/ 
PC 
/ 
mobile 
users 
can 
connect 
using 
only 
a 
web 
browser, 
but 
get 
more 
functionality 
if 
they 
install 
the 
Vidyo 
client 
before 
connecting. 
» Test 
the 
setup 
before 
a 
meeting 
starts, 
not 
when 
the 
meeting 
is 
supposed 
to 
start 
» However 
good 
the 
hardware 
is, 
bandwidth 
across 
the 
internet 
will 
always 
be 
a 
limiting 
factor, 
however 
latency 
is 
even 
more 
critical. 
» User 
familarisation 
and 
expectations 
are 
key 
– 
make 
sure 
people 
understand 
how 
to 
use 
the 
system 
and 
kit 
23/10/14 
TENET 
25
Video-­‐conferencing 
workshop 
» Johannesburg 
4th 
& 
5th 
November 
» Looking 
for 
up 
to 
two 
people 
from 
each 
institution 
› IT 
Manager 
with 
responsibility 
for 
video-­‐conferencing 
› And/or 
person 
with 
day 
to 
day 
engagment 
» Opportunity 
for 
debate 
and 
discussion 
and 
sharing 
problems 
and 
good 
practice 
» Email 
g 
23/10/14 
TENET 
26
Thank you 
Rob Bristow 
r.bristow@tenet.ac.za 
@robbristow

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Video-conferencing as an NREN Service

  • 1. Rob Bristow, NREN Exchange Fellow, TENET 23/10/2014 Video-conferencing as an NREN Service
  • 2. Introductions » Who am I? › On secondment from Jisc in the UK for two years – Part of Jisc Futures division – Worked at Jisc on video-­‐conferencing projects › What is Jisc? – UK NREN parent company – Janet is the TENET equivalent – Jisc runs services and development programmes in all areas of technology and tertiary education › What do I/Jisc know about video-­‐conferencing and education? – Quite a lot!
  • 3. What is Video enabled collaboration? Teliris Express Telepresence conference » Anything that involves collaboration and video (but may also include other things) » From Telepresence to the desktop » Room-­‐based conferencing » Desktop conferencing » Web conferencing » These things are now converging – mobile is here » The goal is a system that spans from web-­‐conferencing to Tele-­‐Presence » How to join things up? » Interoperability! Desktop Conferencing using Vidyo
  • 4. What’s wrong with conferencing? » The room is booked out or locked » The support people have gone home » The equipment is out of commission » There is echo on the audio feed » The screen only shows tiny thumbnails of participants » The network is up and down and the video quality makes this system unusable » I can conference from a room but why can’t I join from my laptop or cell phone or iPad at my desk, or at home or from anywhere in the world? » I want to easily share content from whichever device I am using » Etc… 26/11/2013 Jisc Co-­‐design 4
  • 5. Video-­‐conferencing » Parts to this presentation: › The changing landscape of video-­‐conferencing › Meeting the needs of South African Higher Education › TENET’s plans 5
  • 6. Jisc Project conclusions » There are considerable benefits accruing from, and opportunities for more, virtual meetings » Virtual meetings don’t always replace travel › new uses › stimulating contact » Considerable CO2 benefits for all › largest element in research intensive universities is (long haul) air » Air travel generally dominates CO2 equivalent travel » But overall business benefits are mainly related to short-­‐medium distance travel air travel » Best maybe to target UNPRODUCTIVE travel? 6
  • 7. State of play of conferencing 09/10/14 TENET 7
  • 8. “Legacy” conferencing » Otherwise known as H.323 or SIP or standards based » The old way – expensive room based systems and heavy duty back end processing » Betrays its telecommunications roots » Only now waking up to the growth of demand for mobile and desktop conferencing » Easy to use (relatively) » Limited functionality beyond video and audio (e.g. content sharing) » Vendors include Polycom, Lifesize, Ayaya, Cisco, etc. » Business – not education focused Polycom TPX 204M 09/10/14 TENET 8
  • 9. Web conferencing » The other end of the spectrum » Content is king – so presentation is centre stage » Video and audio not usually as well done. Lack of echo-­‐cancellation can cause really bad problems » Good for push – webinar or where interaction is not so important » Examples include Adobe Connect, Cisco Webex, Blackboard Collaborate and Big Blue Button (open source) » Doesn’t really move off the desktop to enable bigger groups to interact 09/10/14 TENET 9
  • 10. Consumer and desktop clients » Skype › Great for one to ones and presence › Network parasite › Can’t interoperate with anything else » FaceTime › Apple only » Lync › Part of the MS Office stack – so on a lot of desktops › Replacing traditional telephony – soft phones › Can interoperate with many other systems › One to watch 09/10/14 TENET 10
  • 11. “Modern” approaches » These use variants of the SVC extension to theH.264 video compression standard (Annex G) » Sends a base layer which is enough – and then enhancement layers as the circumstances dictate » Traffic goes through a media router – but the decoding/encoding is done intelligently on the end points » Endpoints get the resolution and detail they can handle » Advantages: › Efficient low cost infrastructure – backend is much cheaper than traditional MCUs › Excellent network resilience -­‐ copes well with variable bandwidth situations › Real time adaption – constant tailoring of what gets sent to each end point › Flexibility » Gateways to H.323/SIP world are available » Lync and Outlook integration 09/10/14 TENET 11
  • 12. Cloud services & Integrators » But we may still have islands on video-­‐ conferencing » Enter the integrators and cloud services » But most of these mean traffic going to Europe or the US – so not really an option at present in South Africa » Promise of any system connecting to any system 09/10/14 TENET 12
  • 13. Some emerging themes » Software endpoints and infrastructure › Much cheaper › More flexible › User provisioned and launched » Cloud based offerings – pay for what you use » Desktop and mobile – connect from anywhere » Unified communications – presence, IM, telephony and video » The right tool for the job » Video in browser – WebRCT 09/10/14 TENET 13
  • 14. So what to use? » What do you want to do › Teaching and learning › Research collaboration and coordination › Outreach › Administration » What does you have in your university? › Rooms › Desktop » What can you get access to via the cloud? › Some of the new approaches can be run in a browser – Web RCT 09/10/14 TENET 14
  • 15. UK Developments » Old offering was a farm of MCUs and a rather clunky booking service, along with a dreadful desktop client » Some advice and guidance on purchasing and use » Quality assurance of endpoints » But use was patchy and seemed mostly directed at schools » Some heavy use in colleges with multiple sites » New Platform incorporating Vidyo for desktop/personal and Cisco MCUs for H.323/SIP 09/10/14 TENET 15
  • 16. VIDYO » Best of breed (IOHO) » Scalable, modular, flexible, configurable » Mostly virtualised » Good traction in research communities (CERN, SKA) » Desktop and web client › All participants can share content » All registered user get a virtual meeting room » Room systems » Gateway to H.323/SIP » Pay as you use pricing model » API and SDK allows for custom intgration options 09/10/14 TENET 16
  • 17. Vidyo at CERN » CERN needed to scale V-­‐C capabilities » Traditional V-­‐C was way too expensive » Settled on Vidyo » 20,000 user accounts » Routers in many locations (one coming on line in Cape Town) » Over 800 concurrent connections at peak » Cool graphic here: http://avc-­‐dashboard.web.cern.ch/Vidyo » CERN asked TENET to provide hosting for Vidyo Router for SA use 09/10/14 TENET 17
  • 18.
  • 19. Vidyo at SKA » Needed to expand video-­‐conferencing hugely » Existing and emerging H.323/SIP technologies were difficult to use, and very expensive and were not good for the desktop/mobile » Trialled other systems (Zoom, Blue Jeans), as well as consumer level applications (Skype, Google Hangouts) but came down for Vidyo » It is planned that South African end of SKA will use Tenet service 09/10/14 TENET 19
  • 20. Vidyo Infrastructure » Portal (VM) › Authentication and licensing › Tenant set up and Admin – Capable of handling multiple tenants (i.e., one per university or even more finely grained) » Router (VM) › Intelligent packet switching, so no decode/compose/re-­‐encode overhead – tailors video feeds to match each end point abilities › Up to 100 concurrent users per router » Gateway (Vidyo hardware) › Link to H.323/SIP systems » Replay (Vidyo hardware) › Recording and streaming server 09/10/14 TENET 20
  • 21. Vidyo Infrastructure Part 2 09/10/14 TENET 21
  • 22. Enhancement Layer Base Layer AVC -­‐ Single Layer vs. SVC -­‐ Multi-­‐Layer Single Layer (AVC) Significant Impact Multi-layer (SVC) Minor or No Impact Source -­‐ Vidyo
  • 23. Possible model of provision » Pay as you use model › X Rand per named user who uses the system in a given month – Don’t for forget that users can invite guests who do not count towards that number of users – Cost per user decreases as number of users grows » TENET will provide virtual machines to run most of the infrastructure and buy some Vidyo kit (Gateways) › Institutions can manage their Tenant areas – connect to LDAP and AD » Support within office hours » Training, familarisation, evangelism publicity materials, etc » This is not “Rip & Replace” – your H.323 investments can co-­‐ exist and will reach a whole lot more people › Also – you can easily bring your Lync users to the party 09/10/14 TENET 23
  • 24. Who will use it? » Admin › Split sites › Cross institutional organisations » Research collaboration › Project management » Teaching and learning › Video-­‐conferencing everywhere › Record sessions or stream to wider internet › Role here for Web-­‐conferencing – But probably not Adobe Connect as cost implications are worrying if usage took off Looking with SANReN at Mconf (Supported by Brazilian NREN) 09/10/14 TENET 24
  • 25. And finally – some words of advice » Local Network Configuration needs to be stable, and in particular firewalls need to be correctly configured. » Room systems need to be properly configured including network and routing settings. » Meeting rooms need to have good acoustics and good light » Provide good quality audio play back in rooms » Laptop / PC / mobile users need to have reasonable spec hardware & preferably headset and microphone (although Vidyo has built in echo cancellation) » Laptop / PC / mobile users can connect using only a web browser, but get more functionality if they install the Vidyo client before connecting. » Test the setup before a meeting starts, not when the meeting is supposed to start » However good the hardware is, bandwidth across the internet will always be a limiting factor, however latency is even more critical. » User familarisation and expectations are key – make sure people understand how to use the system and kit 23/10/14 TENET 25
  • 26. Video-­‐conferencing workshop » Johannesburg 4th & 5th November » Looking for up to two people from each institution › IT Manager with responsibility for video-­‐conferencing › And/or person with day to day engagment » Opportunity for debate and discussion and sharing problems and good practice » Email g 23/10/14 TENET 26
  • 27. Thank you Rob Bristow r.bristow@tenet.ac.za @robbristow