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#UBIShef No. 2
10th July, Quaker Meeting House
£
NB To Join Contact basicincomesheffield@gmail.com
• Jason Leman (Chair)

• Simon Duffy

• James Lock

• Mark Bryan

• Niall Ward-O’Brien

• Abi Stevely

• Jack Czauderna

• Jon Maiden

• Isaac Hanson
£
Present
Discussion
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• Our goal is to bring basic income to Sheffield, ideally by
launching a major pilot project; however we want the process of
developing the case for basic income to also be engaging and
educational - helping people to understand its potential benefits,
while also revealing the extreme injustices that are part of the
current system. Our priority: raise the debate.

• The group is primarily motivated by issues of justice: inequality,
health and well-being, community life and ensuring the dignity of
work.

• Need to ensure that we develop an account of basic income that
is consistent with our values, and the values of Sheffield.

• We can organise discussion groups, present to existing groups
and develop educational resources to share in schools.
• What will really persuade people? This is itself a critical research
question and we do not know for sure what will be persuasive. The
general public are likely to welcome clear, engaging and short
presentations of ideas and evidence.

• We need arguments that appeal to a wider community and to the
median voters. e.g. Not just about freedom from work, but also the
ability to get the right kind of work to fit your talents.

• Different systems, will be persuaded by different factors e.g. political
persuasion will be necessary to engage DWP; academic persuasion
will be needed to engage EHRC; local councillors will be persuaded
by different factors.

• We do not want UBI Sheffield to be treated as an idea that is linked
to just one political party. It will be important to engage all parties.
• Ideally we should aim for research processes that include Bronze (low
cost, high feasibility), Silver, Gold (high numbers and academic
credibility) options.

• Ideally we need qualitative and quantitive research and we may need
different and parallel process to gather it. 

• It might be possible to publish our own working papers that share
ideas, publish research and invite discussion.

• We can build on quasi-basic income scenarios: child benefit, state
pension, old Incapacity Benefit

• The process of persuasion, development and engaging others will
inevitable mean that things will change (growing opportunities - and
clearer constraints). At this stage we want to make an initial
proposition… and then allow things to change.
Actions
£
• Simon will turn notes from Meeting 1 into an initial paper
(Values, Model & Summary) - completed end of July

• Niall, Issac & Jason will explore educational resources for
schools

• Mark to consider options for a proposal for quantitive
research

• James will propose idea of pilot through the Fairness
Strategy Group and other civil society bodies - end of July

• James to start explore logo and tagline - at next stage 

• James to share Skills Audit - to be completed online

• Simon will link Mark to folk in Glasgow

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UBI Sheffield Notes No. 2

  • 1. #UBIShef No. 2 10th July, Quaker Meeting House £ NB To Join Contact basicincomesheffield@gmail.com
  • 2. • Jason Leman (Chair) • Simon Duffy • James Lock • Mark Bryan • Niall Ward-O’Brien • Abi Stevely • Jack Czauderna • Jon Maiden • Isaac Hanson £ Present
  • 4. • Our goal is to bring basic income to Sheffield, ideally by launching a major pilot project; however we want the process of developing the case for basic income to also be engaging and educational - helping people to understand its potential benefits, while also revealing the extreme injustices that are part of the current system. Our priority: raise the debate. • The group is primarily motivated by issues of justice: inequality, health and well-being, community life and ensuring the dignity of work. • Need to ensure that we develop an account of basic income that is consistent with our values, and the values of Sheffield. • We can organise discussion groups, present to existing groups and develop educational resources to share in schools.
  • 5. • What will really persuade people? This is itself a critical research question and we do not know for sure what will be persuasive. The general public are likely to welcome clear, engaging and short presentations of ideas and evidence. • We need arguments that appeal to a wider community and to the median voters. e.g. Not just about freedom from work, but also the ability to get the right kind of work to fit your talents. • Different systems, will be persuaded by different factors e.g. political persuasion will be necessary to engage DWP; academic persuasion will be needed to engage EHRC; local councillors will be persuaded by different factors. • We do not want UBI Sheffield to be treated as an idea that is linked to just one political party. It will be important to engage all parties.
  • 6. • Ideally we should aim for research processes that include Bronze (low cost, high feasibility), Silver, Gold (high numbers and academic credibility) options. • Ideally we need qualitative and quantitive research and we may need different and parallel process to gather it. • It might be possible to publish our own working papers that share ideas, publish research and invite discussion. • We can build on quasi-basic income scenarios: child benefit, state pension, old Incapacity Benefit • The process of persuasion, development and engaging others will inevitable mean that things will change (growing opportunities - and clearer constraints). At this stage we want to make an initial proposition… and then allow things to change.
  • 8. • Simon will turn notes from Meeting 1 into an initial paper (Values, Model & Summary) - completed end of July • Niall, Issac & Jason will explore educational resources for schools • Mark to consider options for a proposal for quantitive research • James will propose idea of pilot through the Fairness Strategy Group and other civil society bodies - end of July • James to start explore logo and tagline - at next stage • James to share Skills Audit - to be completed online • Simon will link Mark to folk in Glasgow